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Been down that rabbit hole, a superb and deep one. Have a look at his resume on wiki, talk about rabbit holes to explore, dozens. Recruited by Miles at age 22 to replace Ron Carter sums it. Maybe just one of his recordings appears on the Penguin list referenced earlier, though he has done just about everything with everybody, solo, duo, trio, big band. The Oracle recording is unfortunately hard to find.

Thanks for the heads up. Had several albums in stock. Got a greatest hit cut playing now, Mannenberg.

Very nice, very smooth without being Kenny G. (what do they say on south park?,,, Bastard, Kenny G killed jazz!)

Funny about Lee Morgan's birthday. Played The Gigolo at work last night. Yes I can, no you can't,,,,, GREAT CUT!!!

In the '75-'79 era I was buying every ECM label album I could find at my local record store. Dave Holland is on lots of them. ECM was putting out heavy high quality vinyl when few others were. The difference was striking at the time.

That store in Ft. Collins and Greeley, CO was an oasis of great music straight out of the LA distributors and mostly cut-outs and promos. Their buyers went almost weekly to LA which meant we had to go to their store once a week too. A collecting war ensued with my roommate which cut into my pizza and weed money heavily. He won with over 800 and I ended up with around 500. Our parties were legendary DJ events with two turntables going so the next one was always cued up. Half my collection says "NOT FOR RESALE" on them.

Ron Carter recommendations: Peg Leg and Blues Farm

Cheers

...so she asks the farmer, "Excuse me, but why wouldn't a cow have any horns?"

The farmer replies, "Well, ma'am, there are several reasons a cow might not have horns. Firstly, some breeds just don't have horns. Another reason is sometimes we cut them off when a cow gets too rambunctious and too dangerous to handle and be around. Yet another reason is because sometimes when they are calves we put a type of acid where the horns are growing and this stops the horns from forming." The blonde then points and asks, "OK, but what about that cow, why doesn't it have any horns?" The farmer replies, "Well, ma'am, the reason why THAT particular cow has no horns is because it's a horse."

Caught Mr. Carter in NYC several times as he led a jazz combo. The mindblower, however, was when he played electric bass for Billy Cobham and opened for Roy Buchanan in Asbury Park, NJ. As you know, Carter is a master upright bass player, but my god his electric chops were astounding.

Wow, three picture tests to "prove" I'm not a robot. Ha! Fooled them....

....damn.

big 1969/1970 box set comes soon.

It was 60 years ago today (!) that the Rolling Stones - aka The Rollin’ Stones - played their first gig (London - Marquee Club). Fronted by Jagger, Richards, and Jones, with extras such as long time associate Ian Stewart, this was prior to Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts joining the band, which would happen in a matter of months. Sixty years, and they are still going! Truly worthy of much respect and perhaps the title of the Greatest Rock & Roll Band.
I think I’ll spin the Stones today.

I can remember factions of the music press wondering whether they were too old to cut the mustard in 1973 and 1976 when I saw them. Those journalists may well have retired since then. I know I have.

#1, gotta put Luis Armstrong on there, #2. Charlie Parker, #3 Miles Davis, and rounding out the #4 spot, oh let's go with Art Tatum.. Now, all you who know more about jazz music then I do( which is most folks) can build your own Mtn. Now, let's get that big 1969/1970 Grateful Dead box set out Dave . Oh, I'm only off by 20 years, it's 89/90. Oh,ok.

Only saw them play once, 1994, The Voodo Lounge tour. They started the show out with Charlie Watts onstage by himself and Not Fade Away. Still have my plastic beer cup from the show. They had a special section set up called the Voodo Lounge for all the famous people, Garcia & Weir were both there. I'm glad I saw the Stones play, they put on a great show .

and still the Rolling Stones. Gotta say that is some achievement. They truly are the "Greatest Rock & Roll Band in the World". We've got the 60th for the Dead coming up soon, think the remaining members will make it?
Last 5:
Beggars Banquet Rolling Stones
Get your Ya's Ya's out Rolling Stones
Shakin the Tree Peter Gabriel
David Bowie Aladdin Sane
Arc Angels

Miles Davis > Bill Frisell > Lee Morgan > Keith Jarrett. A LOT of honorable mentions, like Corea, McBride, Hubbard, Green, Coleman, etc.

While I was at the gym this morning, they usually have pretty contemporary pop music piped in the background, the Beyoncé kind of stuff that suits the younger members, which is fine, I’m not there for the music. But today, clear as a bell, “Gimme Shelter”, in all it’s glory. The Stones were never my favourite, or my go to, or I had to buy newest releases the second they came out, but I’m sure grateful for what they gave our generation for sixty years! Sixty years! I was just starting school when these guys plugged in back in 1962.
There is word of an authorized, family sanctioned, biography on the great Charlie Watts, due for release in October.

It’s a pity the Dead didn’t cover more of the Stones’ catalogue in their shows, especially Pigpen, who would have aced the bluesier numbers, and made them distinctively Dead.

It sure would be nice to have a Pigpen-centric box, Dave.

at the summit: John Coltrane

and, imagine: PigPen singing "Can't Get No Satisfaction" or "Stray Cat Blues"

Mind blown! He would have owned those tunes!

Getting back to basics: a Pigpen-centric box, yeah. Except, of course, that might clash with another primal request: a '68 box.

What are the odds that when Dave announces DaP 43 tomorrow that he also reveals the year's box?

I don't usually think of August as a great time to make public announcements. Either nobody's home or they don't give a fig due to the heat.

HF - Think of the possibilities of a Pigpen-centric box. If Dave is having trouble choosing whole shows/venues/years/runs, well let’s take a look at some serious Pigpen tunes!

Dave L - My oldest and his lady camp frequently on Vancouver Island - I’ve given him pics and instructions to flush you out of the fishing runs, and get to the business at hand here - the 43 announcement, and the (He’s Gone) box set!

Without consulting my collection -- trusting only my memory (ha ha ha) -- I thought of '68 as being post- the original frontman Pigpen period of '66-'67 and prior to the "more precise" psychedelia of '69 that delivered a plethora of Pigpen rave-ups. 1968 being more the 6-7 headed beastly maelstrom.

Consulting my '68 collection, however, I see Alligator, Caution, Good Morning Little Schoolgirl, Hurts Me Too and Lovelight. (However, Hard to Handle, Midnight Hour, Next Time You See Me, The Rub still to come or often missing from '68.)

So, adding actual facts to memory, a '68 box that liberally samples Pig's '68 tunes would be the sweet spot: primal GD with plenty of Pig on top. Um, yeah.

And as we all seem to agree, we don't mind "fragments" -- songs without whole shows -- as tapes from '68 (with one recent exception) seem unlikely to emerge from the woodwork, so while '68 appreciators still live and kick, let's have 'em.

I guess it's tomorrow at 9am Pacific that Dave will at least drop news of 43.

As I recall, one local legend sez the harp player in Mother McCree's jug band heard one of the first Stones LPs and said ' Hell, we can do the blues better than that'.
Things got plugged in and here we are.
Prob not the first time they heard King Bee or Little Red Rooster, but easy to find versions from guys 'bout their age & getting as many girls as the guys in "Hard Days Night", seems a place to start copping licks.
The pre-hiatus versions of 'Not Fade Away' have the same bouncy bridge before the vocals as the Stones' early LP.
Dunno where the Stones got theirs.

Dave, the future of the free world is in your hands. Get your hands out of your pockets and stop playing pocket pool Mr. Lemieux.. Lay it on us.

The He's Gone Box.. love it.
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This doesn't belong here.. but since we are talking about Canada, what the hell.

If you google "Bear natureathome beer Canada" and look at the video that comes up... you should see the real Hams Beer Bear at work. I know there is at least one ice cold Hamms beer aficionado that frequents this site. Tempting as it is to have little hope for humanity, this should give us renewed hope in the animal kingdom. Plus, it's funny as hell, bears are for the most part awesome.

I say DL2 goes to the 80's & the show is
BCT, Berkeley, Ca., 10/28/84 with snippets from 10/31. My 2nd guess while it doesn't count was 6/28/85, Hershey Park, Hershey, Pa.

It's pretty darn impossible I believe, to have a 4 person Mt. Rushmore of Jazz, as the idiom known as jazz covers SOOOOO much change and innovation.
However, I will attempt a personal Mt. Rushmore, and a more broad Mt. Rushmore:

Personal-Miles Davis
-John Coltrane
-Thelonious Monk
-Bill Frisell

Broadly-Duke Ellington
-Louis Armstrong
-Art Tatum
Miles Davis

Stop me before I thrust another 24-pack into a giant bucket of ice...... yes, ice-cold up front, the second half of the beer becomes tastable and man oh man that Hammz does not disappoint. And that's coming from a Pilsner Urquell freak. (Close relative of HF.)

Funny, unless it's 1968-1974 or 1979-81, I don't care what DaP 43 is.

BUT, for financial planning reasons, I would like to know what the friggin' box will be and its price tag.

Googling Jim's suggestion now.......

I replaced my headshot with a crop of a billboard in NE Utah on Hwy 40 heading east into Colorado, where (unlike UT) the liquor store has rather expansive hours and much better selection. This on the southern flank of Dinosaur National Monument, thus the T rex reference.

The thought of bears (or T rex) copping a liquor buzz is a tad disturbing. Humans tend to get wild. Animals already are wild, so, inebriated, they must "get effin' WILD"

That is all.

Edit: Dang it, didn't work. One more try....

Can't get the key elements of the photo to squeeze into headshot space, oh well.

Just imagine a T-rex hoisting what looks to be a 50-gallon frosty mug of brewskie to its jaws, and then FLOOR IT!

That is, if you have a fast car, otherwise running only triggers the predatory instinct, so then prepare to die by having your car eaten with you as the creamy filling.

Jim -- was your inspiration the tiktok vid of the bear disappearing over the fence with someone's beer? Priceless.

Good version of "Wild Horses" on that Old and In The Way album. Makes me think The Dead would have been successful in tackling some of the Stones more countrified offerings. Tracks from Beggars - Goats Head Soup.

I can't say I'm too bothered about the next Dave's Picks either. Or the box to be honest - I've ordered the Lyceum box, so in a way it would suit me if the next box this year is from a year off my radar. 66-74 I would get, most likely, - anything else I would skip.

No.. I just stumbled upon that somehow.

Related and true story.. for the last 25 years or so I have been doing volunteer work for the oldest extreme whitewater race in the country (the Upper Yough Race). One of the things I do is mountain bike between 4 and 6 cases of beer up the canyon about 2 1/2 miles to the finish line of the race. We make sure there's enough for each racer to get an ice-cold beer or two when they finish. I hide the beer a crevice in the rocks on the river bank, it's almost impossible to find unless you have a super sensitive nose attached to a giant stomach.. I usually start Monday or Tuesday and cart up ice on Saturday so it's ice cold by race time.

So four or five years ago, somehow.. a bear found the beer and shredded about a 12 pack of cans ripping the tops off with his claws.. at least I think it was bear, we never saw it. The claw marks were bigger than a racoon, either a bear, bigfoot or Chupacabra??

So there you have it, the Upper Yough Beer Guzzling Bear strikes again.

On a related note, last year I ran into a bear about 20 yards from the hiding spot on the Friday trip up the canyon. I'm pretty sure I used the same language as the guy yelling at the Hams Bear in the video and succeeded in shewing him away. I will make it a point to track down some Hams beer for this year's race just for good measure.

This has nothing to do with GD except that a few Deadheads like Bears, Ice Cold Hamms on a hot summer day and everyone loves Beer Guzzling Dancing Bears.

I would have to have five heads (in alphabetical order): Louis Armstrong, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Thelonious Monk.

And that still leaves out giants like Charlie Parker, Art Blakey, Charles Mingus, Chick Corea, Billie Holiday, Keith Jarrett, etc.

Maybe it should be a football team of jazz - then you could have 24 players: 11 offense, 11 defense, a punter and a placekicker.

that works. Yelling, waving, making loud banging noises all good, but the spray is the best defense -- far better than a firearm that might only wound and enrage. Check Montanta Wildlife Division to confirm.

Edit: EXCEPT if the wind is blowing the wrong way. Then you're screwed!

I'll bet security at The Vault keeps some handy....

And, since when does "relevance" to the GD ever intrude here?? That would be buzz kill...

Jim - That Tik Tok video on the beer making off with the ales was just hilarious LOL! Take the steaks, take the grilled salmon, just don’t TAKE THE BEER, BEAR! The guy’s reaction said it all!

DaveRock - Good point on the Dead covering the country Stones. Pigpen would have done justice to the blues numbers, and Jerry in his pedal steel days might have combined with Cowboy Bob for a sweet Wild Horses, Dead Flowers, No Expectations, etc. There were not many songbooks the Dead couldn’t have tackled, and put their own distinct angle to. The possibilities of what might have been…

Per the email sent 7/1/22:

“We're rounding 3rd with a killer complete, unreleased show.”

The OSF ‘68 reels?

That would certainly make HF down a few Hamms.

Whatever it is, some people will be happy, some people will be indifferent, some people will be annoyed, some people will be pissed off, some people will complain about the subscription model, and some people will complain that it wasn’t offered as a download.

wissinomingdeadhead...I don't think this one will be Hershey Park, because it would take up only 2 cd's. Now I could see Dave put out Hershey Park with another from the '85 summer tour, like Merriweather Post. the last 2 years we've gotten 4 cd's once each year, so it wouldnt surprise me if he did that again....

You speak wisely

7 13 84

Yeah...yeah....yeah.......

Maybe Dave's #43 will be 7/13/84 at the Greek Theatre, it's certainly a release worthy show . They have not released one show from the Greek, if they are going to release one, this show would be a possibility, and tomorrow is the anniversary date.

I'm a big fan of that show, not big on a lot of 1984. Haven't done a deep dive into that year, because my shallow dips in that era haven't impressed, mainly due to the sound. If I can't hear Phil prominently in the mix, it just doesn't sound like the Dead, and I can't get into it much. The multitracks are much better for 80s and 90s tapes, but the 7/13/84 board I've had for 20 years is a decent exception. Releasing that Dark Star would be an awesome thing the day after the James Webb Space Telescope's first images were published. Amazing, amazing photos that I would recommend checking NASA's site to peruse. Just five images, but incredible, and already an investment that has paid off scientifically, as its instruments confirmed water on a planet in its limited testing.

Oh, and 10/20/68 from 30 Trips was at the Greek, and while it's a short, single disc, it is a powerful single disc, with a great fast Dark Star and probably my favorite version of Feedback, if only for the announcer's dazed "Wow"s after the sounds finally quit.

Sampson, high time, and big river. My mastiff dog 'sarge' is 14 y/o today. What is it? How does my dog smell......

Dave could stay true to form and give us 7/15 with a random encore from the 70's that we missed. That would be following the 'right street, wrong house' method, with a dash of 'hey, what the heck is this?' :-P

Alvarhanso - those images taken by the James Webb Space Telescope are amazing-thanks for mentioning them.

Proudfoot & BtK ... I had the good fortune to be at that show at the Greek on Friday the 13th! There was a bit of a looser vibe as getting there on a Friday was tough, at least compared to a Saturday or Sunday show of the three-day run. And the show itself was good and energetic, including the unexpected and Scarlet-Touch-Fire combo, which was new to most of us. At the end, as everyone was expecting to leave, Phil made his announcement and the place went crazy ... if you had it, you lit it, dropped it or ate it, as several large screens were put in place on stage.... ultimately projecting other-worldly space/planet/star imagery. The anticipation was palpable .... and when they hit the first notes of the then holy-grail, Dark Star, it was simply nirvana .... the first in years and a first for many in the audience, I'd naturally assume. This also happened on my future wife's birthday (today, actually) so this show holds THE most special place in my heart. Yes Dave, release it!!

38 years ago today, I was fortunate enough to be at the Greek Theatre, ( along with Topchinacat, Mr Proudfoot, and a bunch of other lucky Deadheads who post on this forum) for a knockout night with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. It was a lot of fun, I hope they release the show someday, but I also hope they release the tape from 1968 from the Carousel Ballroom , either one would be very cool. "Shall we go, you and I while we can. Through, the transitive nightfall of diamonds".

Birth of my twin sons
Birth of my daughter
Meeting my wife
7 18 82 first show
7 13 84

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Indeed they are amazing photos, but no sign of Klingons around Uranus. Maybe they're not looking in the right place. 🪐

Saw the box set announcement when I logged in this morning. 17 CD Box Set MSG shows from "81, '82, and '83. Interesting.

Went to see Khruangbin at an outdoor amphitheater last night, cool show, crowd was higher than inflation.

Charlie beat me lol

Looks like 2 from 69

Where are you guys seeing this boxset announcement. Is it available for order today?

I’ve been captured
So can’t post the info

Look at new releases.
No email yet for me.
Cheers