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  • daverock
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    PT - thanks for you post. I know quite a few people with very strong opinions, though - I listened to someone ranting and raving about Boris Johnson only yesterday. Would that be a suitable thing to post about? God help us if it is ! The last demonstration I went on was only last month, too - but again - I don't see this as a platform for going on about it.

    Oro...well. Surely there is a difference between someone discussing non Dead related music on here as opposed to venting their political angst. I have discovered all sorts of bands and musicians on here that I would never otherwise have come across. John Coltrane's "Ascension" was the last one. But if you feel like puking, then that's okay with me. Hawkwind apparently used to provoke it in the unwary,with their use of lasers and lights around the time of "Silver Machine". So you would be in good company - hey...over there, though.

    Ist show - good man - cheers. Definitely more 1978! I gave the bonus disc of the From Egypt With Love shows a spin last night - great stuff.

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    I knew when I posted that last night....

    ....that there would be backlash. But everything I said was true. Is this primarily a music related forum? Yes. Do we also talk about a myriad of other topics. A resounding yes.
    If some of you were "offended" in some way, believe me. That was not my intent. Im just being honest. The last five years has put a definite strain on what is considered American democracy and the rift is growing wider in my opinion. Prior to then, I rarely payed attention to politics at all. But things have changed. I have lost friends and family over this shit. My workplace got toxic after 1/6. Some thought is was "funny" and approved of it. And all because some narcissistic egomaniac is a sore loser. It baffles my mind. Not everything is sunflowers and patchouli oil. Just my two cents. Take it for what you will. And my timing for going there is on point.
    And yes, Gainesville would be welcome.

  • Strang3stofplaces
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    Just cause I don't post often here doesn't give me any less of a right to complain. The internet is a seemingly endless place, and there are probably better places to get out the vote than on a forum for Dave's Picks 44. I didn't say you can't talk about it, and if you want to talk about anything go ahead with it. But jeez, I just come here to discuss Dave's 44, or the series as a whole, or whatever the topic is and that is just so damn rarely what's being discussed. If you want to promote the political right of voting, go out and do that, however you'd like. If this is the preferred place for it, sucks for me and all the people who'd like to confine it to the band and the music, don't it? Freedom of speech is freedom of speech, but you don't go into a church talking about quantum physics or NASA talking about how God is the reason the space shuttle landed on the moon. All I'm saying there.

    That being said, late 72 would be great, as late as possible with that NYE show being particularly hot.

    And don't mistake my words as being aggressive, although they may be charged.

  • Oroborous
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    What aaaaabout Gainesville?

    It’s been 36 picks since the last 1980 show. 24 since 81, and 20 since he decided a 72 DaP.

    Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
    (First #) = Year:
    (2nd =)Total Releases from this year/
    (3rd = )How Many Releases since last pick from this year../
    (4th =)Release # of last pick from this year

    80: 1 / 36 / #8
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    81: 1 / 24 / #20
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    72: 3 / 20 / #24
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    71: 3 / 18 / #26
    76: 3 / 16 / #28
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    70: 2 / 14 / #30
    79: 1 / 13 / #31
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    84: 1 / 9 / #35 (1+)
    87: 1(2) / 8 / #36 (2)
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    78: 4 / 7 / #37
    73: 5 / 6 / #38 (1+)
    83: 2 / 5 / #39
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    77: 6 / 3 / #41
    74: 6 / 2 / #42 (1+)
    69: 3 / 1 /#43 (2)
    90: 2(3) / - / #44
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    No Picks from:
    66-68, 75
    82, 85, 86,
    88, 89, 91-95

  • PT Barnum
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    I don't want to piss anyone off but

    for someone who doesn't comment much on these boards, you sure got a lot to say about what we can talk about here. NO censorship means just that, NO, so if you want to talk fishin' I guess that will be ok. I think Jerry stated that the political stuff is what was f**ked up about the 60's so now they might be a bit more political, I mean you never saw Jerry holding a blue or God forbid a red vote sign. The remaining members sans Phil have been a lot more vocal about voting and being political. All good, there are a lot of Deadheads and getting the word out about voting is ok in my book.
    As far as the next pick, some late 72 would be just fine Dave, thanks. Or some more 1980 Gainesville would be nice too.

  • Oroborous
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    Nuratlee, I will search…

    Stangestofplaces. Glad you understand,just trying to be informative.
    I can certainly understand if you don’t like it, just seems like often there are folks who don’t understand the limitations involved and thus feel the team derelict in some way. I think they usually do a great job with what they have to work with. I mean even with all the inherent idiosyncrasies, all things considered I think they sound pretty dern good!
    I just wish they’d release more multis!
    Smithers release the…

    EDIT: HF, dig the new shades!
    The kids are fine and hopefully will be on their way back home on Wednesday…

  • 1stshow70878
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    Check PMs. Thx
    Cheers

    For DaP 45: More '78 please, and thank you.

  • Strang3stofplaces
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    Grateful Dead being a political band

    Just to clarify my thoughts on this, they definitely were political, certainly not to the tune of endorsing a political party or another, but think about 5/6/70, free concert held at MIT after Kent State or the whole save the rainforest campaign in the late 80s. Being political does not solely confine itself to the nature of voting. Regardless, this forum is literally for discussing the music and not to serve the purpose of being a digital stump speech. So please, start another website or forum somewhere else if that's what you want to get your rocks off on. I very rarely have posted here but often check em out to see what might be being discussed, i.e. the music, and it is increasingly rare that that is the topic at the moment. To transition to that, how about this? What are some the hopes for the next Dave's? Due to be announced with the almanac in the next week or so. Personally, I'm hoping 46 will be 6/10/73 (arguably the best setlist ever) with a bonus disc of 6/9/73.

    And orobouros, thanks for the clarification on the mix levels being due to the 2 track source, and I definitely get the whole first song not usually being reflective of the levels of the whole show.

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    It would be great isn't it?? I don't know if this means everything can be a "multi-track" recording now?

    There are several interviews about this floating out there. Try searching for "Peter Jackson Beatles Get Back Interview" and "Giles Martin Beatles Revolver interview". They should talk about this technology in those interviews. Enjoy!

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    Fascinating!
    Never heard of this, do you know offhand where we could learn more?
    Sounds like prime geek feast!
    That certainly could be a game changer.

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What ever happened to Clay V?

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First in the door

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Always nice to skate on a fresh sheet of ice!

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for 44... now where's that announcement for the '60s Bay Area Box?

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What, no seaside chat?

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TBH, I was a little underwhelmed with the previous pick - outside of the Dark Stars and the acoustic stuff, I don't know that it will get much play around these parts. I know it is sacrilege, but late 69/early 70 isn't really my cup of coffee - I often find it too muddy. Also, there have already been 4 other releases from this period... but, for those who love it, rock on!

Summer of 90 is much more up my Brent-loving alley. Granted, we did just get the Deer Creek release from this period, but I am excited for this show with West L.A., Cumberland, Crazy Fingers, and a Playin>UJB>Playin sammie in the showcase spot. AND, we do get that missing 69 Cold Rain and Snow from Vol. 43 - (I hope they tuned their guitars... :)

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Excited for the pick, but these random fillers from different eras are absurd. Looks like there's room on disc 3 for the Help>Slip>Franklins from the next day. That would have been more appropriate.

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Listener whiplash :-). Looking forward to this Oregon ‘90 after the 69 shows.

Seaside chat is located at the Size Chart banner..ok I can dig that.

OTIS..looks like you won’t escape the ‘69 as Dave is tucking in Cold rain and snow from DAP 43 at the end.

Maybe they think those that enjoyed Dave's 43 will be tempted to buy this for the filler - to complete the show it was dropped from on that set. But it's a big ask if you ain't so keen on 1990.

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....need to log in again and says invalid login/password. Arrrrrgh.
Edit. Nevermind. Joeymc on the MSG page says you need to create a separate account. So stupid.
Be our guest, be our guest. Put our service to the test.

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I'm looking forward to this pick. I've never heard the show but have heard tell of the recording and the show itself over the years. I always focused on spring 1990 and am just hearing these summer shows. This looks great.

Awesome year on Dave's Picks in my book.

I have really enjoyed 43 with the two 69 shows and Bear recordings. Killer in my book. Acoustic set too.

Spring 77 and Winterland 74 on top of that.

The sound quality on this year's picks has been awesome in my opinion. They all have really sweet sound. Great shows as well.

Thanks Dave!!

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If I heard him right Dave inferred that next year's box will not be an anniversary oriented one. Anniversary stuff separate. He may clarify that with the next chat. Vguy, others have said you have to have separate log in credentials now for store? They need to fix that if it's so. Forgot that Lowell George had produced Shakedown. No wonder I like it so much. 6-23-90 is a DAT master. I guess that's good. On the 3-9-81 did anyone else hear the speed was a tiny bit fast early in the show? I know Plangent and Jeffrey Norman take care of that but Jerry and Bob sounded a little chipmunky for the first two songs. Seems to correct later in the set. Maybe they were just younger sounding that day, or I'm still tripping. Hard to tell but I was sure that was a tic-tac and not a microdot.
Cheers

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A good choice indeed. However I thought DL2 would visit the 80's, I guess the 5 from MSG would've been a bit of 80's overkill.

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Is this part II of Lumpy Gravy??

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I agree, Alan T: It's just weird to drop into a "Cold Rain"from '69 in the midst of 1990 show, I guess a lot of folks are into completeness for the sake of completeness, but I would vote for adding bonus tracks from the same tour (or at least the same era, with the same personnel) when there's a little extra room on the seedy.

But that's a minor gripe about a release I'm very much looking forward to. Have to give props to Dave for DaP 40, which really opened my ears to how good the first half of '90 was. I've got a 45 minute drive ahead of me this afternoon, and I'm looking forward to streaming the listening party.

Last five:
John Coltrane: Blue Train
GOGD: DaP 40
Ray Charles: The Genius Of
Aretha: I've Never Loved a Man ...
ABB: Hittin' the Note

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....this is right in my wheelhouse and just under a month from my first show (Buffalo, July 16th).

I know I've listened to this one in the past but am still looking forward to a pristine official copy in my grubby hands.
I'll take a 15 minute Eyes 2nd set opener any day.

Hope All are Faring Well
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....but if memory serves me correctly, I got the flu or something.
My crew took my ticket and left me behind :(

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things are weirder than normally over there. That glass is cool. cost seem up since last I checked a few items, just a buck or two but still.

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Is the seaside chat not on the website? Got by email but can’t find it

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I can’t find seaside chat even though I clicked through from email?

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Possibly bit out of step ( something I'm not normally known for), but apparently Robert Gordon died earlier today. For those who don't know, Hhe pre-dated The Stray Cats in plugging into the rockabilly source back in 1977 - and the two live albums he cut with Danny Gatton "The Humbler" and "The Real Humbler" are two of the best rock n' roll albums - from any era - that I have ever heard.

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My favorite show of the year, with the Sunday show a close second. Check out the jam in 'Cassidy', and really a hundred other things. Every song is excellent, many are superb. Been wanting this show for years, having to make do with various cassettes and CD-Rs. Here it is, can't wait, perfect show!

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Right below the CD pic. Pale lettering between Product details and Track list.
Combined it with listening parties.
Cheers and enjoy

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The Chat and listener party are Located on the Size Chart button…must be a prankster thing

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This may be my favorite Dave's Pick yet. Awesome show. Epic. A prime example of a top tier show as good as any from any era. Everybodies engaged playing at the absolute top of their game. Even if you tend to avoid the Brent era you should do yourself a favor and give this one a chance. You'll thank me later.

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Please Dave, no more glasses!

Bring back the axe?

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Anyone else get the 3rd man record vault of the primus 7 inch cuts?

Anyone have a digital copy of them?

It's a pretty box. Nice artwork, nice colored vinyl.

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....I see Grateful Shred is playing Seattle on Oct 22nd and 23rd. Heard good things about them.
Dennis. Primus sucks.

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Looking forward to this one. Will Dave receive a recording credit for use of his recording? I am starting to see a trend, the last release of the year for the last three years have been shows Dave attended. Interesting to learn as well that he has no list when he lays out his releases. I did see the Seaside chat on the tube, but I don't see it on this website. Where is it?

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Did Dave get that ultra cool low key hoodie?

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I agree - that’s a very wearable hoodie, Dave L. Unlike most of the other “apparel” for sale on the site, which looks like Lululemon dosed, that hoodie looks pretty fine!
I did find my black “Dave’s Picks” waffle shirt the other day, great for these cooler days, but a hoodie would be sweet.
Spill Dave!

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The sun is in the middle because this was shortly after the summer solstice.

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Hey Joey & Vguy, Maybe that's an ET embryo that the UFO on Dave's 23 (also in Eugene) left behind that has now germinated and is calling the tune.

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As I told Billj yesterday the chat has been grouped with the other things in a line of faint print under the CD pic. It does not have its own box, have to click on it. Not looking at it now but between the Product details and the Track list.
Is the hoodie out of his Dave's Picks line? Couldn't make out the logo.
Cheers and good luck navigating the store.

Not wearable in my book. A hoodie MUST have a zip front for heat/cooling adjustments!

It appeared to have a dead emblem on it. But hell, you're Dave! Could be a one off someone made for him.

Listening party on 44 sounded like a very nice recording.

It'll bring a smile to this face.

Dennis - It could be a one-off hoodie, possible. I’m with you for having a zipper usually, but I’d make an exception for this. Maybe the store can actually make some swag folks will actually wear. Remember those “Astrology” (!!) shirts??? I want friends to take the Dead serious as the great musicians they were/are, not some Age of Aquarius InaGoddaVida collective, but then they produce these shirts!!??

The manager at the art supply store I used to go for supplies was a nice young guy, had all the obligatory hipster tattoos and the super sized earring inset that looked like a small dinner plate. Anyway, we’d invariably chat music, and he was absolutely a Tiger Beat fanboy for Primus. He’d rave about them, and I’d generally just kind of go quiet, not wanting to tell him Primus blows. I think he eventually got the hint, because one time I was in there, he gave me the usual “Why Primus is better than the Beatles or Stones”, then after a long pause where I changed the subject, said “But I get not every one likes them”.
I just smiled, as some things are better not said.

As an aside, this #44 looks like a winner. I’ve always loved “Crazy Fingers”, a somewhat rare treat, so I’m betting this one is a good one.

I'm amazed at all the different types of tee shirts and merchandise you can buy on here.
I notice you can get something described as a "Grateful Dead Puff Recycled Tee Shirt". You'd have to have been a tough cookie to wear something described like that where I grew up.

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I hear you on what you wear ( then). When in high school ( I’m not telling 😄) we used to beat up kids who wore yellow shirts. Now? I’m old most guys here are in their 20’s to 40’s. My job requires a uniform but every couple of months I have to let my freak flag fly Dashikis tie die etc. Trip is the youngsters all say the same thing “ I wish I could get away with that. Did I mention I’m a union man ( helps when management asks me when they changed the uniform “ oh you didn’t get the memo ? Wavy Gravy is our new ceo😄

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What have they done now? I’m signed in ( I’m making this post get gawd’s sake) but every time I try to buy the glass I go to some new page that tells me I don’t exist what have they done now

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Snafu - VGuy mentioned he had a problem the other day, too. Here is what he wrote, and it seemed to work:
“Trying To Order The Glass....
....need to log in again and says invalid login/password. Arrrrrgh.
Edit. Nevermind. Joeymc on the MSG page says you need to create a separate account. So stupid.
Be our guest, be our guest. Put our service to the test.”
Good luck.

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Bill Walton, noted Deadhead and NBA hall of famer, was seated right behind the plate during game one of the Phillies-Padres series, wearing full Padres gear. He's from La Jolla, ya know.

Also, they played Saint of Circumstance AND Fire on the Mountain between innings.

Just felt that like shouldn't go unnoticed. As you were.

PS: Man, that West LA from the listening party is sleee-zee. Almost demonic. You can almost smell the crack smoke in the hallway.

VGuy - I was considering sending up a quasi Bat Signal in the form of your avatar to alert you Snafu - nay, all of Gotham City - needed your help in dealing with the Dead Merchandiser!!!

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