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  • c_c
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    cool beans, tibet dude.
    you will always be the "tibet dude" to me, brother. YOU, are the perfect example of why I love deadheads. thankx for the understanding. In my own little way, I've been giving this Tibet thang A LOT of thought... so for getting into a "discussion" sake, let's start with a little history... bear with me now, I ain't never had too much "good" formal education, I learned the lessons of life on the road and my 1/2 a semester of college was spent on tour. and so some of the exact dates and shit might be off... Tibet was sometimes a separate, independant nation and sometimes a conquered vassal state throughout the time period 1500 years ago and before... that means, like from the start of time, as far as I can know. for most of the earliest times of known human history ("why the fuck is it HIStory and not HERstory" grumbles my old lady) to the early 1700s or so, I gotta say 1700 hundreds, cause i confuse myself if I say yhe 16th century, or is it the 15th?? fuck it, the 1700's the Mongols usually controlled Tibet. Who remembers the classic line in Bill and Ted's EXCELLENT adventure? excuse me Mrs. Old lady, but when did the Mongols rule China?? (I digress) but anyways, there were revolutions, uprisings, invasions, insurrections, general mayhem, assassinations, all of the usual historical misbehavior like everywhere else in the world during those thousand years or so. because of this earliest history, (that we know) one could change the argument to ask is Tibet independent, or part of Mongolia? I talked to some cool folks from Mongolia who have that kind of thinking. so, in like 1705, the Mongols, with the blessings of the Chinese imperial dynasty, invaded Tibet and took it over, deposing the Dalai Llama from back then. as life and HERstory are IRONIC and totally fucked up, another Mongol group then kicked them other Mongols out and took the place over again, and the first group of Mongols asked the Chinese emperor for help kicking out the new dudes who were also Mongols. Meanwhile, nobody really gives a shit about the tibetans. From like 1723 to 1727 (I cheated, I looked that one up) there was civil war in Tibet, and then the Qing emperor installed governors (read: dictators) in Lhaasa. Round this time, seems to me to be when the original disagreement over whether Tibet is a province or not began. this is not a new issue at all, and it only gets more fucked up. Some say that they were provincial governors, some say that they were ambassadors, some might say military dictators... Regardless, there WAS a Chinese military presence there "keeping order". fear of more Mongols, trying to start a buffer, whatever the justifications might have been, Tibet, was under control by an outside power, but, shit, they had been that way already. remember the Mongols. ever since the middle of the 1750s , the folks that replaced the council of ministers has his powers that were, were described differently by the Chinese and the Tibetans. So the disagreement between them about that has been going on for a long, long time... Most folks these days don't know that In 1788 the Nepalese invaded and took over Lhasa, and the Tibetans THEMSELVES asked the Chinese to help kick them rabble rousers out, which the Qing emperor did. Quing, then for the next 100 - 125 years, China basically defined the government and the selection process for officials to politically administer Tibet. who is doing the math?? what year are we up to now?? did that make it a province? A chinese vassal state? Or still an independent nation? I dunno, opinions vary. don't matter, it happened. and now, of course, the imperialistic powers (read dead WHITE people) just had to get involved. What was going on at the end of the 1800's?? well, England had just gotten their ass kicked out of OUR colonies, and they might have been looking round for new folks to tax and not represent, maybe they just liked the Tibet weather? or was it for ALL of the tea in China?? ahhh, who was controlling Singaporte, Hong Kong, etc etc. not to mention those really, bad bad, Opium Wars and the harshness of the Brits in those days. (sorry Badger) So like in 1904, the British invaded Tibet, occupied Lhasa, drove out the Dalia Llama, and made it part of the British empire. (this wasn't no fucking British music invasion with "beatles" this was a "beating" invasion with Brittish soldiers shotting people and hitting them on the head and what the fuck was that thing called, oh yeah, bayonets. After widespread hue and cry, they penned a treaty (which some believe to have been largely propaganda) to permit Tibet to remain autonomous, but nominally under British control. In 1905 the Brits "let" the Dalai Llama return. In the meantime, the Qing emperor in China was pretty alarmed and could not sit still, since China certainly considered Tibet, if not a province, then a very closely allied vassal state. so they invaded back, and kicked out the Brits, over the period of 1908 - 1911. (I looked that one up, too) Lots of stuff happened real, real quickly after that, starting with a treaty between Mongolia and Tibet which was disputed and ending with a British effort to divide Tibet into an autonomous 'Inner Tibet' and an outer province under the rule of China. Folks, keep in mind that the Chinese revolution is still long off, and Mao himself was just a boy. The Chinese government later totally disagreed with this original 'treaty' , since it slyly, ever so slyly, switched a bunch of land to British-controlled India, which pissed them Chinese rulers, and probably the Tibetans in the area, off no end. The Brits actually published books that clearly stated that the treaty was never officially "ratified", but in 1938 they recalled all copies and republished the books, now claiming that the treaties were valid. what's that thang about the winners writing history. oops, sorry, HERstory. What is that shit about the winners (re)writing history? Anyways, China was real busy with problems of their own from 1915 - 1945, like the rise of the RED Communists, overthrow of government, exile on Main Street of the Last Emporer, exporting only bad Chinese recipes, invasion by the Japanese with millions and millions of casualties, the rape of Nanking, etc. The Chinese around this time always said during this period that Tibet was their province, but were never strong enough to invade and take it over again. too busy fighting the Japanese, Manchuquo, and all that was on their agenda. What else was going on between 1914 - 1945?? what else happened, raise your hands please, don't call out in class. Yes, you get a gold star, 2 world wars. Wasn't it the Chinese who invented gunpowder? and they had it used against them by the Brits. gotta keep them high tech secrets secret... oh yeah, I remember, it was western folks who usually get the idears of how to use a technology not for shooting off fireworks, but for shooting people.... (I digress again) meanwhile, the Briish have always supported Tibet being an independent nation based on the 1914 treaty of Simla, but cynical suits claim that has more to do with them illegally seizing Chinese territory for the British empire than any concerns for the Tibetan people.... so, for the past 70 years or so, China has never stopped claiming that Tibet was part of China, and Tibet has always claimed it is an independent nation, independent not only from China, but from Mongolia and the British Empire... China has always been totally paranoid about protecting the inner kingdom from external barbarians. Who built the Grate Wall?? (who got laid on the Grate wWall??!!) In more recent years, since Mao and his crew took over, did the Chinese get more fucking paranoid?? Where is my little red book? they had border skirmishes with the USSR which were never completely or accurately reported by either side; (for the youngins, all of those countries like "Wherethefuckisitstan" were under the Soviet, red rules. Another, modern example was when China atempted to deal an "uppity" Vietnam a border lesson, when Vietnam seemed to be gloating too much about their victory against the good ol'e US of A. -- but China actually ended up taking heavy losses on that one. The Chinese also had a brief war with India (look up these dates yourself, folks, I'm getting sleepy) the war with India was about who owned the highest real estate. All during history, wars have been won according to who owned the high ground. (not who was "high" on the ground) Can't get any higher than Tibet, folks. The Chinese army moved into Tibet without a great deal of world protest in 1950. Shortly thereafter, the Dali Lama went into exile and Tibet has asserted their independance. The question is: but what, these daze are the Tibetans really trying to be independant for?? Devout Tibetans believe their Dalai Lama to be a living, enlightened, vessel of God, or more accurately that Buddha (Hal R, please help me here) himself, chose the incarnation of one of their youth by touching his spirit. Tibetan elders perform rituals until it is beyond a doubt that the proposed child is enlightened and is indeed the Dalai llama. So it is Buddha, who chooses the Dalai llama, BUT (big BUT) not too long ago, as I heard, in what some Chinese scholors consider a brilliant (read: crafty) move, while others consider it to have been totally fucked up and totally fucking stupid, the Chinese attempted to become involved in the dalii lama selection process, explaining that "their" candidate would be chosen as the next Dalai llama based on education, test scores (loud sheesh!!) and of course, his willingness to embrace Mother China. You do not hear too much abouth that kind of totally fucked up shit on frigging CNN. So, what is going on now is not a fucking lame ass protest about democracy, as our good ol'e boy GW would have you believe. it is indeed, in my most humble of Humbolt opinions, a protest that seeking religious freedom from China. So here we are today, and the fact is, China owns Tibet, militarily. Is it the continued paranoia of Maoism that makes it so unbearable for the Chinese government to allow a religious sect to live in their midst? -- (who are the gorrillas??) even when the very leader of the religious sect, has called for only civil disobedience and non-violence lest he quit his post-- though I did see some VDO of robe clad monks kicking shit around, so they, even tehy are not above not following the Dalai Lllama it seems. OR, as I am cynical enough to believe, that VDO was set up and 'fake monks" were in it. A whole bunch of monks, who finally got contact with some 'western' media have claimed they were confined and had nothing to do with and certainly did not support any violence... China could get brownie points from the UN and other countries, if they just let the Dalai lama back into Tibet without punishment or prison of any kind and they would really win world favor, if they allowed the Tibetans to simply be able practice their two thousand years + of Buddhism without having a Chinese implant who did well on fucking tests be declared the next incarnation of the Buddha. (that may have only been a governemnet idea, and it certainly never happened since the current Dali llama is still alive... Sage leaders in China realize that this shit going on in Tibet and the neighboring areas with lots of Tibetan folks might spark more internal revolt all over China for greater freedoms, including and especially religious freedoms... Canceling or boycotting the Olympics would send world peace back into the Cold War era, regarding foreign relations with China. When was it, in 1976 that we didn't go to the olympics because of the Soviet Union. China has greater problems ahead as well regarding religious freedom and violence. Not to mingle issues here agian, but those cock suckers in Al Qaeda has been reported to have established a "beach head" with the millions and millions of Chinese Muslims (and those folks are also pretty bummed out and angry about their own lack of religious freedom) so the whole thang is a fucking pandora's box or jack in the box or whatever, it's an accident waiting to happen. OK, there is a test on Monday. I had one more thing in mind that I wanted to say, which I have totally spaced on... but anyway, HERstory is a fucked up thang, and she does, unfortunately, repeat herself. now where did I put that god damn lighter??!! ( -; love and peace.
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    Hey there Granfalloon ,,no appology needed, now you know,, this site can be a bit confusing sometimes ... it took me a while to figure it out and i am still learning , too ..so don`t feel bad ... but yes one topic in one forum not all over the place, please,,, like i said now you know ,, .... I to would like to see a free tibet and my sympathy for the folks over there,,, they need their peace,, like everyone else ... good luck with your mission !! take care ... peace ....
  • granfallooon
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    spams and scams
    i got hit with the ghana scam too. how dumb do they think we are that we'll actually fall for that?! anyway, i'm the "tibet dude" and wanted to apologize for gumming up the works. i was just trying to help out and got a bit carried away. thanks for the advice CCj, i'm still learning my way around the forums and haven't yet figured out how everything works. "Unusual travel suggestions are dancing lessons from God" ... ... the Books of Bokonon
  • c_c
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    of course
    of course I was never one to sit still (or follow my own advice) ... so I tried to reply back to the ghana scam spammer; and... isn't it interesting that nelly does 'not' accept private messages. 'nuff said. watch out people. love and peace
  • c_c
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    I KNOW you are a fucink spam scammer!
    thanks, iknowyourider; the warning should be more clear for our family. by the by, did EVERYONE get that spam, from the Ghana scam artist? those kind of bullshit things pop up all over, maybe to the 'un-enlightened' they may fall for it. I think a warning somewhere would be appropriate, and a simple, 'use the block this user' would be the advice. EVERYONE knows, right? NEVER NEVER NEVER reply or give ANY personal information over the net. no bank account numbers no birth dates, no social security numbers. never reply to web sites that even resemble your bank's website. NEVER NEVER NEVER, please. do not fall for there tricks. no bank ever asks for that shit online. I have met (unfortunately) some of these scammers in person, and they realy think people are so fucking stupid that sure, here is my personal information, and I am sure the bank in Nigeria (or Ghana, or France, or LA, or wherever) will send me millions of dollars that we can share. scammer assholes, take a look at my fucking passport, you see that my birthday is NOT fucking YESTERDAY!!! ************************************* not to mingle things here, and the tibet dude is NOT the same as the scam artists who sent that bullshit private message, and I certainly respect the Tibet thing and feel for those people, and would love to see a free tibet like everyone else... so, hows about a 'Save Tibet' topic, then that dude who posts his stuff can do so there, for me, on crappy net connections, it is a bit frustrating to have to waste time (and money) sorting through those again and again in each and every thread I try to catch up on. and then, people who wish to 'engage in a discussion' about Tibet will know where to go. naturally, tibet dude, please continue to post that stuff here in this thread since this is an open space, but please, not all over the board, it makes the message annoying to me, rather than feel sympathy or empathy or motivate me to actually 'do' something to 'help' it bums me out. pretty please with sugar on top. hmmm, coming up with a new idear for a game show: 'Name that Spam!!' love and peace. joe
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    Watch out Dead family
    There's Scammer's running rampant in these parts. Never seen anything like it. PEACE
  • c_c
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    damn internet
    damn internet, got logged in, and bumped off before the post could show up... so, I gotta do this fast, this time. I ran into a Korean deadhead dude in my recent travels, and we were talkin, shooting the shit... his English is a little shakey, and my Korean language skills are only good for ordering beer. (ok, I DO have priorities) long story short, he reaches into his back pack, and pulls out a tattered, coffee stained, printed copy of an interview with Garcia, and he had filled the margins in with Hungul trying to translate it / understand it. (he had a bag full of dead related mag issues, and stuff like that) I read through most of the interview, and low and behold, whose name is at the end, copyright by Mary E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so, my question is, dear marye, where is the audio tape of that interview, and may I please? pretty please with sugar on top, get a copy?? or, is it possible for you to upload it onto some server of audio files so EVERYONE can enjoy it? like archive dot org?? pretty please with sugar on top!!! next week in Bangers the net should be more steady. I would love to 'hear' Jerry in that interview. if I tell you I am going deaf, (true, but who isn't after dancing in front of the WALL on numerous tours?) would it motivate you to put it on the net sooner? love and peace.
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    When I first met my girlfriend (well, she wasn't my girlfriend yet, but you get the idea), she inquired about the SYF sticker on the back of my car. I told her what it represented and her response was something akin to "Oh. That's nice." Her preferred music at the time ran toward Eminem and Metallica, both of which represent areas of music which, as much as I've tried, I just don't get. Fast-forward to today, when we're at home in the evening and have Sirius radio on. From the corner of my eye, I have seen her quietly rocking out to Sugar Magnolia on more than one occasion, told me that Jerry's rendition of Lazy River Road is beautiful, and can identify the Dead from anything else playing. All this to say, if your girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, partner, paramour or concubine doesn't dig the music, just give them a little time. Everyone comes around sooner or later. Mike "Goodbye, Mama and Papa, Goodbye, Jack and Jill The grass ain't greener, the wine ain't sweeter, Either side of the hill" islandmyk@yahoo.com
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    Hey Joe
    Had just been wondering where you'd gotten too. Grate to see you again!********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
  • c_c
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    thanks folks
    thanks folks. looks like next week I will be heading back to the big bad city of Bangkok to sort some thangs out and hustle up some more cash from ex-pat yuppie suits. incidentally, marye, there are 3 seasons. getting HOT! http://www.simply-thai.com/Thailand_page_Seasons.htm and GRTUD, you want your 'rug' back??!! I thought you gave up wearing that rag of a toupee long ago. (yuk yuk yuk) ( -: Happy Easter to all!! love and peace.
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yeah, this will be cool. thankx. but now I got nothing to say... ) - ; "a first in the history of the world!" comments CC Joe's old lady... peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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Well put or not put. I, however, suffer from verbal incontinence and will gladly have something to say. Here are random and semi-on-topic tidbits. After Jerry ditched the Wah-Wah pedal in favor of the Envelope Filter, Playin' in the Band was never the same. The first kind veggie burrito I ever had transformed my tastebuds. Quixote's True Blue is a cool Dead Head bar in Denver, CO. When I bailed out on the scene in 1993 I was kinda bummed. Getting together like this with all of you sure is cool and makes me feel goofy like a kid again. I'm just a, well...porpoise.
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This will be fun.Thanks to are Mods for this free-zone......Im off to see Terrapin Flyer w/ Tom Constanten tonight at the Kinetic Playground in Chicago......IF YOUR IN CHI-TOWN YOU NEED TO GO AND SEE THESE GUYS!!!!!!!!! Dead to the Core www.myspace.com/bongwizard
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Greetings and accolades to izzie and Marye for listening and assisting. I'm sure it (open thread) wouldn't have happened without you. What to say, what to say, shit, given this opportunity and passing up an audience. Is this stage fright? Cat got yer tongue? Nope, I'm just smiling wide on this Friday night and jazzed at the recent turn of events to connect with old and new friends in our new 'station.' Author Steven Peter's book titled 'The Stories Behind Every Grateful Dead Song 1965-1995 -What a Long Strange Trip' he chronicled an explanation around one of my favorite tunes, The Wheel and he wrote "Hunter compared the unending spin of the Grateful Dead's career path to the oroboros, a mythical dragon or serpent which is depicted as biting it's tail and symbolized infinity or eternal recurrence. It was a pattern the Dead could relate to on a different level as their own "snake" continued to grow bigger and bigger with every turn." This site is an extension of that concept, to be part of continuing to nourish and expand with the help of each other "one man gather's what another man spills". And even the story behind the Grateful Dead's name (I will leave that for another to share and elaborate on) is evidence of the evolving and helping nature of the Dead, this site, and the relationships that we foster with one another. Again Peter's book relates how world renowned scholar (on Myth and Religion et al) Joseph Campbell attended a Grateful Dead show and then stated "It turns on something in here", he later said enthused, pointing to his heart, "what it turns on is the life energy. This is Dionysus talking though these kids. Now I have seen similar manifestations, but nothing as innocent as what I saw with this bunch...this is a wonderful fervent loss of self in the larger self of a homogenous community. That is what it's all about." Shit, I guess I went overboard and got all high fallootin' and philosophical, er, heynow, crank it up. We have arrived. Let's dance.
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Hey, sken's verbal incontinence was contagious.But point taken, I must go and mental floss. Control is within my grasp.
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hey, Sken, as I do not play the guitar, could you please list 2 primo shows (from archive.org) actually, could you pretty please with sugar on top, put up the links for 2 shows one with the wah wah pedal and one without and one with the envelope whatever the fuck that is filter. I'll give a listen and comment. (maybe, if I remember to do that) ( -: my hearing is pretty lousy, so if there are SBD shows, those would be best. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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by the way, to everyone here, if we use the subject box as a kind of topic starter, (or topic continuer) it will kind of, 'kind' of (note the kind!!) it will kind of be like starting our own topics... on the other hand, if someone does not use the subject box, it automatically takes the first few words from your post... which may or may not indicate what you want to talk about. looking for and finding that silver lining. ( -: peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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the much awaited NEW gameshow is here! The producers finally got the Call the Tune game show up and limping... OK, there are still a few problems, (don't blame your humble host, please) but click on the link or simply press play on the VDO screen and turn up the volume!! your humble host here, CC Joe... don't blame me for the crappy audience tape with very poor quality sound, this IS a reality gameshow. This is what it would have sounded like back on that day... at that time, in that place... especially if you were standing next to Ace McDanger and Spiker Jones... listening to the first few tune - up sounds, can you?? will you dare to try to Call THE Tune!!!???? pece. ( -;
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Sugaree
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nice try, but......... nope, not Sugaree. please try again. by the way, who digs my cool antique Japanese boxes and our ultra cool clock which is set to 5:15 permanently??
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My ears are toast. I pulled out the headphones and gave it my best try. If I don't get it then I might just have to let the youngsters with their fresh ears do the heavy lifting. note: The guy next to the mike had a nice machine-gun laugh, but I call Bertha as the tune.
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not Bertha! "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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the box on the right is a sewing box, probably about 70-80 years old-- the little box connected to it on the rod, is the old pin-cusion...the box on the top left is a 'hako kaidan' staircase box... back to the show: there is ONE or two very distinctive notes at the very end of the clip, barely able to make it out... I chose the tape 'blind' just popping one in without looking at the set list, and I could call it, so I thought it was 'fair' oops, did I just give away the fact that it is the first song from some set?? perhaps a first set or perhaps a second set?? I'll never tell. it took about 10 minutes to find a suitable tape, then another 5 or so to get the vid just exactly perfect, then another 10 minutes to go through the upload to youtube... it was actually pretty easy to do, I've never uploaded any vdo before. HINT HINT HINT, anyone can do it... then I can be a contestant, too. ( -; if I don't get some sponsors in a hurry, this may only be a weekly feature. it is pissing down raining sideways here, so at home with nothing to do... ( -: "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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Stupid computers.... How do we delete a posted comment?
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I can't get youtube here at work (picture a kind of NORAD scenario) so I'll just blurt out song names so ya'll don't forget about me. "Brown Eyed Women!!!" "This aggression will not stand, man....."
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you win!!! Wow!! what insight!! no, just kidding, it ain't Brown Eyed Woman. you can not delete posts, I learned that the hard way more than once... are you THE GRTUD, dude, as in the nug that tied the room together?? will you abide me, dude?? what's up with changing the name? you trying to add extra confusion and dissaray into my frazzled brain? ( -: peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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OK, GRTUD.it IS you. I just read your intro. cool, glad to see you here. thanks for adding confusion to my feeble, moldy memory. you see, the fucked up thing about screen names, and avatars, is I will never be able to ever call any of you by your 'given' names. just your chosen names, and I will always associate you by your original avatar pics... as I am rather dissassociated from myself enough already, I continued with the CC Joe thang, as well as the same Bulldog. ain't that 'just exactly perfect'? now I will always know who I am. but I still wonder... "I know who I am. Do you know who YOU are?" - Sid in Seinfeld peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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"From day to day, just lettin' it ride,You get so far away from how it feels inside, You can't let go, 'cause you're afraid to fall, But the day may come when you can't feel at all."
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nice try, but nope. please try again! ( -: "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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An attempt at Get Smart humour. I determined the key it's in - A - it sounds as if it's going to be rock 'n rollish - so, before I run, I'm going to say Albama Getaway? "From day to day, just lettin' it ride, You get so far away from how it feels inside, You can't let go, 'cause you're afraid to fall, But the day may come when you can't feel at all."
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you guys want a separate space for your game? and don't throw nuthin' at me - I'm just tryin' to be helpful!
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the only thing I might EVER toss you, would be a cold beer, and that would be underhand... (ooohh, underhanded - love those double entendres) ( -; and don't think you can get me to toss you any clues, either... ( -: sure, why not set up a space called Cheesy Game Shows or if you think of a better title?? 'There ain't a winner in the game' 'The wolf came in, we sat down for a game' 'If the game is lost, then we're all the same' anyone else have a beter title. Shake down Street was 'just exactly perfect' for the hawkers!! damn, did I get a chuckle out of that... yeah, another link in this area would be very cool, then ANYONE who wants to post up trivia questions, or the name THAT show, or any of the other little mind games we could come up with could fit there... sure, please set it up and if possible, please move the related posts over there? or just re-name this one, and the other new 'free' space can continue as this one was intended to do... COOL! "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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and, deadicated, it ain't Alabama. ( -; "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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Sken: Just picking up on your Quixote's nod. I've spent a lot of time in there (all three incarnations) since the inception in '95, as well as his other three joints. Great place for great tunes in Denver
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nope, nice try, but not Prminsed land. please try again! "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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I don't know why/how the other post got 'out of order' And Justice for All AL!!!! Judge Rayford: Mr. Kirkland you are out of order! Arthur Kirkland: You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They're out of order! That man, that sick, crazy, depraved man, raped and beat that woman there, and he'd like to do it again! It's just a show! It's a show! It's "Let's Make A Deal"! "Let's Make A Deal"! Hey Frank, you wanna "Make A Deal"? I got an insane judge who likes to beat the shit out of women! Whaddya wanna gimme Frank, 3 weeks probation?
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the link from CCJoe due to I'm using Firefox, but aw what the hell, I'll guess "All Over Now."
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not all over now... babyblue... please try again. my current signature is NOT a hint. no hints on this show! peace! "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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I can understand why GRTUD's work 'puter would block out youtube, but I don't get why a program would not let you play the youtube vid?? did you try to click on the link that takes you to their site rather than hit play on the screen thang? peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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I've noticed this with Firefox. It just doesn't take me where I like to ride sometimes... And Explorer (which graciously allows me to view youtube whatnot) is not cooperating.
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oooh, good tune, ooops. my conclusions were jumping. ( -; but no, it ain't 'I used to lover her and it's all over now' either... peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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why the fuck is this thing posting posts out of order?? "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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keep trying to confuse the humble host more than he is already confused will get you disqualified... ( -: peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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why it posts out of order but it's nice that I can live in the past for a spell.
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wtf? everything is out of order... and I am a pretty well organized guy. ummm, not really. ( -; peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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I spend my life in the past.
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has passed. Passenger era early Brent (fall '79) is my favorite Passenger zone.
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Stab #IV - Johnny B. Goode "From day to day, just lettin' it ride, You get so far away from how it feels inside, You can't let go, 'cause you're afraid to fall, But the day may come when you can't feel at all."
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No! no es Johnny B. Bueno. buennnyo (long n with the ~ on top! pero bueno guess con mucho gusto, Senor Deadicatado. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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Deal (??)
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Loser.
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this is getting pretty heated! not deal and not loser. nice try, but nope. please try again. ( -: peace. "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
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Just for kicks, I call: Race is On I'm gonna get to work on the Playin' controversy to give y'all an idea of what I'm talkin' bout. Bozo Bus: I played at Quixote's once. Probably the best gig of my life, until the next one, of course! I'm just a, well...porpoise.
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OK, for starters, Jerry seemed to use the Wah-Wah pedal almost exclusively for "jams" and never really incorporated it into songs like he did with the Envelope Filter. The Envelope Filter brought you such tunes as: Shakedown Street and Estimated Prophet. Anyway, it doesn't seem fair to compare this Berkeley Community Theater 8-21-1972 Gem to anything, but check out the Playin' at this show: http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-08-21.sbd.hamilton.150.sbeok.shnf So, since I didn't want to compare it to a version that couldn't measure up, I chose one of the "Warlocks" shows from Hampton, VA. Check out the jam during Playin' here: http://www.archive.org/details/gd89-10-09.sbd.serafin.7721.sbeok.shnf Thats the Envelope Filter of which I speak that Jerry is using during the jam (as well as other midi). While it is trippy and fantastic, it feels to me like that old Wah-Wah captured the raw energy of the song better than the Envelope Filter and midi effects. I really liked Jerry's use of effects throughout his time on earth, but his Wah-Wah expeditions during Playin' back before I was born just floor me. Uh-oh, maybe I blew it when I was born. I disrupted his cosmic chi! Yikes! I now have a complex!! <>
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What form did you play in at Quixote's?
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it ain't race is on, but nice try. and thanks for the other details about the wah wah pedal etc. ahhh, Shakedown, one of my all time favorites, I might have thought that was a wah wah, since I don't know anthing about guitars, and effects... I'll give your links a listen later. I appreciate the links. I listened.... the songs were so hot, I forgot why I was listening to them! hmmm better or worse? no better no worse, same same but different. different. keep in mind, though I had great aspirations to become a rock and roll star, (who didn't) I am essentially tone deaf and lack any musical talent whatsoever... (though my harmonica skills aint too bad) so this is like asking a layman. because at the same time, you got different keyboards, Brent's playing the Hammond, B3 right?? so that adds some of the old trippy-ness... but, yeah, I see what you mean about the guitar not being QUITE as trippy... "never the same since Jerry ditched the wah wah" as you said before, hits the nail on the head... but I dig both sounds. by 1989 Jerry was using the Tiger and not the same Strat or whatever it was in 1972... that is another reason for the difference... no? wat the fuck do I know? the thing about the 89 version, v. the 72 version; during Jerry's leads in the jam... to my ears, the notes sound 'cleaner' that is, until the 'pitch' is it the pitch? what the fuck do you call it? the scale? no, the OCTIVE until the octive gets deeper, then I think the wah wah sounded better... that is about as much musical anlysis I can handle for one day... peace. thanks again for the links. love both shows. ( -: "The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense. Take what you have gathered from coincidence"