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thats nice, i love that story! :} quack

THE SITE OF OUR FAVOURITE BAND HAS A NEW TOPIC.IT IS CALLED "LITTLE LIGHT-DEAD HEADS BEHIND BARS"YOU WILL FIND ALL OTHER INFORMATION ON THE "FAMILIES" SITE.IF YOU CAN SPARE SOME TIME TO HAVE A LOOK IT MIGHT MAKE THE DIFFERENCE FOR A BROTHER OR SISTER OF OUR BIIIIIIIG DEADHEAD FAMILY.THINK ABOUT HOW MANY OF YOUNG,PEACEFUL PEOPLE SPEND THEIR TIME IN A PRISON CELL........EVERYONE OF US CAN DO SOMETHING TO MAKE THEIR DAYS IN HELL A LITTLE BRIGHTER!!!!!!!P.S.IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO IS CLOSE TO YOU AND SERVING TIME IN A CORRECTIONAL FACILITY,THAN THAT TOPIC MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO YOU.........

Odetta passed away on Dec. 3, 2008. She was 77. May the 4 winds blow you safely home. RIP peace.

Howdy folks, pop some popcorn and pull up a chair, here we go: First item of bitching: The store. Shipping rates are ridiculous. I ordered the new Road Trips release. One package, three CDs, and it's five bucks by the USPS. I've shipped a big package (like 20 cds) all the way across the country for five bucks, including buying the bubble mailer. So when I see that 25% of my expense will be shipping, and an order of $50 gets free USPS shipping I decide "hmm, there are several things I've been wanting, maybe now's a good time". Well, there I go thinking again: first item I'm wanting was the dancing skeletons fleece cap ("currently out of inventory") uh huh...OK, how about "Grateful Dead 365" (heaven knows if I bought that big ol' heavy book on it's own the shipping would be upwards of a million dollars!) oops, wrong again "currently out of inventory"...at that point I gave up. FWIW, the book through the dead store (when they had it) is $22 plus whatever the ungodly S/H charges would be; Amazon is $17.50 + 3.99 S/H and they are filthy with copies now. Free shipping on orders over $25. Second item of bitching: More at the store. How hard could it possibly be to show an item is out of inventory on the thumbnail page instead of going all the way to the item's page only to be disappointed (aside from the whole "it's the holidays, make sure things are well stocked" thing). Get those lazy html coders to work! Third item of bitching: this website. On the "My accounts" pages there is a spot where people can put a link to external, personal websites. How is that really supposed to work? Most of the time when I click on a member's link I get this error message "Page not found" and "The page you requested does not exist. For your convenience, a search was performed using the query member" etc, because the link isn't coded correctly. Instead of just the link as the member has entered it, the website adds "www.dead.net/member/" to the front of the link as entered by the member, resulting in a bad link. Now, it's not on *all* pages, because I see that marye's appears correct, but PAPPYPGH's gets the addition that makes the link bad (Pappy's was just the first example I checked, there are a bunch more). Fourth item of bitching: this website again. That heirarchical menu for navigating the forums kinda sucks. This particular forum, for instance. Where the heck is it in the heirarchy? I noodled around through the menu trying to find it for awhile without success (I could find the old, closed free-form forums), finally went through "All Recent Posts" to get here. OK, I'm tired of bitching. Well, tired of typing actually, plus my dog has just informed me he needs to go out, ("goddammit Kovu get that nasty rawhide off my foot, I'm trying to bitch here"), otherwise I could bitch all night long. Been that kind of week - don't even get me started on the Brazilians. Although they did terminate one of my bosses (aka "Idiot") Good job with that, Brazilians. Plus their head of marketing is smokin' hot. Very smart no doubt, and obviously very good at what she does, but really really attractive. I couldn't help but notice what with my having eyes and all. (actually, the Brazilians were all very nice, it's just nerve-wracking having a big-ass real company buy out this little pissant horribly managed company I only hired onto a few months back. I kept wondering what all the conversations in Portuguese were about, and if I was getting any of the blame for "Idiot"s bad decisions from before I started, that I've gotten dumped into the middle of) ((and they still haven't told us if they're going to change the company's name, so I don't know what to put in when I update my resume)) OK, I'm done. Thanks for stopping by! ("alright Kovu I'm coming!"). Now you guys go to Beth's website below and buy her cookbook for Xmas gifts, it's pretty cool. I would've put the site on my personal page as my website link, but well...;^D Cheers! PS The integrated spellchecking here is nice. See, I'm not totally negative! (damn that woman was fine) ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

To make a valid link to an external website on your Account page, remember to include the protocol string (http://) at the beginning. Otherwise the site's content management system assumes you mean some other portion of this site. Yes, I know it's stupid, but that's the way it is. As for the Boys (and apparently Girl) From Brazil, 'fraid I can't help you with that. Or the store either. Hope Kovu's feeling better! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Ah, so that's it. And you're right, that is kinda dumb, the content management system not recognizing links entered into that particular field as external links. I mean, why would somebody link to a point within the site? Seems like an easy fix, too, just add the statement "Be sure to put http:// in front of your link or our mindless website will screw it up" (OK, maybe not those exact words, but you see what I mean) where it says "Your personal website, blog, etc." on the account Edit page...or just change the way that field is interpreted and add the http part automagically (maybe that's too challenging, who knows. I could do fix #1, though, and I'm a moron). I wonder why more users haven't noticed the issue, there's a bunch of instances like that. As for Kovu, everything came out fine :^D Note that the spell check system (which doesn't like "spellcheck", it's "spell check") gives the choices "Koufax", "Ovum", "Kory" and "Kort" to correct my dog's name. Wonder what I'd have to name a cat for the system to want to name it "Sperm"? Hold on, lemme check...nah, there's no easy ones... One of those Boys from Brazil is an honest to god real life billionaire, so he's Mr. Boy. "Yes sir, Mr. Boy, and exactly how would you like your ass kissed, sir? Please allow me to apply some chap-stick first, sir, so I won't chafe your incredibly rich ass" And the girl (there were two, but the other was cute but a little bitty thing) was all Woman. Truly a goddess, and I have a pretty high standard there. I never achieve it, but I have it. (hope they don't do that internet searching like some companies do now, google searching on my name to pry into my private life - at least I don't have any naked party photos on Myspace or whatever) ((but if they do bust me on a name search, firing me is OK as long as they let Her know that if Her ass needs kissing, I'm all over it. I'll pay good money for the privilege too, while I have any left.)) Cheers, and thanks again, MarkintheDark (buy the cookbook, the money goes to Rex and SEVA) ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

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Thanks for the great blog link. that was friggin' hilarious! It's a must read. "Dude, it's atomic. It's like a little bomb." Think I'll go dial that show up on archive just for a laugh. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Did someone say spellcheck? Holy crap batman, that would change my life!

It appears the spellcheck function I mentioned isn't a website thing, it's a Firefox thing. (Everybody should realize by now: I'm a moron.) There ya go, PK, another good reason to use Firefox! It'll underline in red mispelled (or unrecognized) words, and if you right-click on the word you get a menu with suggestions to correct or you can add the word to a dictionary. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

Blues Traveller the past? Jeez Tiger Lily, I was still thinking of them as the new kids on the block. I guess time moves a lot slower out here in the boonies, or maybe it's just me. guten tag.

i think that "blues traveller" are going back sometime in the earlier 90s,when they did open up for jerry and the boys(also known as the GRATEFUL DEAD),maybe you had a good cap of sleep...gute nacht!!!!..P.S.how great that u know this "new kids on the block",were there not humpy -jumpy around in....oh,just forget it !!!! Peace

markinthedark, it's better to be moron than moroff and phonics is fun3 things gotta agree with wild strings on the blues traveler, tigerlily, they ain't that old!! or is it me : )

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I think Tigerlily might have been thinking of the Bluesbreakers. Although, she may not be old enough to remember the Bluesbreakers.

john mayall, john popper, i see your thinking : ) but hey now, that is a blast from the past!!

Soko Richardson!!

am quite sure! John Popper-kick ass harp player who used to be heavy, but slimmed down considerably it seems, when caught em at Lollapalooza in hmmm 2006??? Guess is all up to perspective what we consider to be "blast from the past", as was heavily into Blues Traveller at LEAST 10 years ago. Perhaps mine just so fast moving, that that seems like ages??? :-) "Once upon a midnight weary, I woke with something in my head"---see not confused, especially as I have no clue who Bluesbreakers are. ???¿¿¿!!!¡¡¡ ********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

Popper had a heart attack and ended up getting gastric bypass surgery. He's a gun freak. His wikipedia article says when he got pulled over for speeding in 2007 and the cops found a small amount of weed and a pipe they also found "The vehicle had a stash of hidden compartments which contained four rifles, nine handguns, a switchblade knife, a Taser, a set of brass knuckles, and night vision goggles". He didn't get charged for any of the weapons, they were all registered and locked away (and I assume unloaded), but the cops kept the knucks and the switchblade since they are illegal. He'll carry a gun where it's legal, even on stage. Let that be a lesson to ya: don't rush the stage, he'll pop a cap in yo' ass, or light ya up with that Taser! ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

Popper on harp is absolutely mind-blowing, or for me anyhow. His control and timing and rhythm-oof! Whole band is pretty tight actually. Gun freak thing sounds nasty to me, but somehow not such a suprise to read. ********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

I mean, you look at Ted Nugent and "gun nut" comes naturally to mind, but Popper, not so much. And he wasn't just carrying a gun, he had an *arsenal*. Night vision goggles? WTF. Personal protection is one thing, I'm all about that, but night vision goggles are for soldiers and assassins - I don't think they're legal for hunting, and the article I read didn't even mention hunting. It would be interesting to find out just what kinda guns they were - hell, nine pistols that's like "one of each kind there is". When I read it that scene of the Terminator in the gun store came to mind. I seem to remember when Garcia got busted in Golden Gate Park he was carrying some kinda gun, and being surprised about it. Then again, given the drugs he was doing and the quantities it's not really surprising. I think Popper just likes to smoke a little week and then shoot shit. Cheers, TigerLilly, hope things are going well over there across the Big Water MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

owning firearms does not make you a " nut " or a " freak ". however, i do know some nuts and freaks that own guns. then i also know alot of nuts and freaks that listen to the grateful dead.

Jan. 18, 1985 Garcia got busted in GG Park with h and coke in his car, while he was freebasing. I am not sure and never heard if he had a gun in the car or not, but if he did, I reckon the gun was legal. or for some reason he wasn't charged with it.... peace.

I never said owning a gun made one a nut or a freak (and the Nuge has called himself a "gun nut"). I did say that that Popper was a "gun freak", and I think (a) having a car full of secret compartments with four rifles and nine handguns is pretty freaky, and (b) Popper would probably agree with me. Next time I see him, I'll ask him. In a brightly lit place so he won't have to wear the night-vision goggles! The more I think about it, I'm sure I read at the time of the bust Garcia had a gun in the car when he got busted (and I remember being impressed with what kind of gun it was), and I seem to remember the car being a BMW. I never said the gun wasn't registered, I was just surprised that somebody with the reputation of being one of the Founding Fathers of peace-loving hippie-folk had a gun, and I remember being amused that he drove a Beamer like a yuppie. That whole "twenty something bags of coke and heroin" thing I just took for granted (and as an aside: gun or not, you all have to admit he got off incredibly light - rehab and a charity show. If he'd have been an unfamous black guy in Watts he would have been charged with big-ass felony distribution and just be getting out of prison about now). Earlier tonight as I was trying to find an article that said what kind of gun it was I read a piece of an interview with Garcia that mentioned a time when all the guys (Pigpen was still alive) were getting into going out in the country and shooting guns. Shot up a gold record, according to the article. Apparently some of them wanted to have a photo on the back of some album with all of them posed with their firearms; Jerry was against this as he felt it sent the wrong message. I don't remember the exact location of the article, but if you google "jerry garcia golden gate park arrest gun" it should be on the first page of hits. Sorry if I offended any gun owners, but if you're reading this you are de facto a freak anyway so spbspbspbspb (that was a raspberry, I forget how one's spelled) :^) Cheers, MarkintheDark ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

Change that BMW to a Mercedes. Thanks. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

It was Hunter that suggested they not use a gun photo, and the album was Beauty (the conviction Hunter mentions is non-violence): "Sometimes, adds Hunter, it was difficult to hold on to that conviction. "When American Beauty came out," he says, "there was a photograph due to go on the back which showed the band with pistols. They were getting into guns at the time, going over to Mickey's ranch, target shooting. It wasn't anything revolutionary; they were just enjoying shooting pistols. For example, we got a gold record and went and shot it up. "I saw that photo and that was one of the few times that I ever really asserted myself with the band and said, 'No -- no picture of a band with guns on the back cover.' These were incendiary and revolutionary times, and I did not want this band to be making that statement. I wanted us to counter the rising violence of that time. I knew that we had a tool to do it, and we just didn't dare go the other way. Us and the Airplane: We could have been the final match that lit the fuse, and we went real consciously the other way." " It is an excerpt from the book Stories Done: Writings on the 1960s and Its Discontents By Mikal Gilmore I was just scanning articles, not really reading (at least I got the gold record thing right). I'll stop now. Bye! ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

i believe it has more p's and a number of l's, and i never said that you said what you said IF you said so...........HA! and yes, if you must know, i AM a nut and, occasionaly, a freak, not by de fact tho, i just are (arr!)

we agree to disagree on this topic, I hope. Live and let live. Don't hold it against you that you support registered guns for private individuals, but I just cannot be pro n.r.a. Hatred of violence too deep for that.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

sorry,i have about every interview and report about jerrys bust and there is nowhere the word that there was a gun in the car."(recitation)..the officer saw that the number plate on garcias BMW was expired,he approached the car when he smelled something burning and saw that garcia had dropped a thing he tried to hide.the officer than found a briefcase on the passenger seat which,blablabla.........)this is from the original article in the chronicle,but in the RS too and others there was never the word about a gun.i think you must have fallen prey to a rumor.PEACE:-)(-:

I feel pretty much the same way about both these issues. If you're opposed to them, don't have one. If you think you need one of them, get one. Neither should be illegal. Ain't nobody's business but your own. People have an inherent right to defend themselves, and an inherent right to elect to reproduce. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Coulda sworn I read that, though. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

I don't own any guns myself, but friends of mine do and they like to go deer and elk hunting. Gun sales have sky-rocketed since the election. I don't mind poppin off a few rounds once in a while. Hunter S. Thompson probably had a lot more than Mr. Popper does.

we can always agree to disagree, as americans we are allowed to do that, constitution says so. we should always respect the opinions of others anyway. i do lean towards pid's point....ain't nobody's business, including the government's so i don't go for registration. that just gives the bastards a list by which they can confiscate and that's the first thing a dictatorship does is disarm the citizens. so far we are citizens and not subjects. in order to legally purchase a firearm from a licensed dealer in this country you must pass a background check which is fine with me, keeps the things out of the hands of violent criminals,(murderers, rapists, etc.)but the common criminal is not gonna buy from a gun store or a gun show because of the background check done by the fbi with their database. they buy them off the street, stolen and otherwise. restrict normals citizens and the bad guys still get their guns.....i keep them for defense.....and pls don't believe everything you hear about the n.r.a.....it's mostly a group of people that believe in their right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the constitution. man i wish i had some cake....or a cookie.....or a cookie AND some cake. i think they promote non-violent acts. and i seem to remember reading about a pistol in jerry' s bust but that can't be cuz with the amount of dope he had he would have been locked up for a long long time. part of the community service he was required to do was put on a free show for the military. garcia band did a free show on board the uss carl vinson, where i was stationed at the time....unfortunately i had to fly home on emergency leave as my mother was dying....terminal brain cancer, so not only did i miss the show, i lost my mom as well.................guess i better quit ranting now....this tangent got rather large.

Can listen to any argument and perspective, so long as keep the respect that all have done so far here, with this potentially hotpoint topic.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens

always willing to listen, and you always have a kind word and thought for others.......think i'll go have a cookie and cake sandwich, or, samich if you prefer...................................

legally empowered to protect you? they can only show up after the fact......so i keep myself protected........................." when seconds count, the police are minutes away "

I'd've been right there with Hunter T. shooting deer guns at propane cylinders if given the chance, or getting liquored up and playing a round of skeet-golf, or unloading the belt on the 50 cal at the old junk cars full of dynamite. Kaboom. "Hunter S. Thompson probably had a lot more than Mr. Popper does." No doubt, and bigger ones too. It's that whole "secret compartments in the car" thing that's a little freaky to me, and carrying so many around at once. With night vision goggles and a taser. Whatever. I'm bored. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

for a man of his stature, I say more power to him. Maybe you like being in the dark,Mark, but what the fuck's wrong with protecting yourself against the losers we all know are out there?

everybody just settle. i think we should all just go have a tea break (or coffee if thats your thing, or a smoke) and then ya can come back and yell at each other if you like.just hadnt posted in a while so i decided id drop in. *sigh* guess this is what i get when i leave you kids alone for a few minutes to head out to the packie. JK Peace, The Kid

did'nt intend ta start a pissin' contest...........guess i better have TWO cookies. i remember reading about popper being stopped and i don't recall any " secret compartment " just the usual storage nooks ya find in the smaller suv's. in my son's '91 explorer there is an cover not unlike a pull down shade that goes from the back seat to the rear door, effectively covering anything ya have in the back like luggage or a purse or what ever, pick up the floor board and ya find tools for tire change and whatnot..........ok cake for everyone!!

milk and cookies for everyone! WOO-HOO! just clean up when your done, the last time i let you guys serve yourselves and use the big boy cups yall left a complete mess in here. Daddy needs to go have a drink. a big one.Peace, The Kid

Kid you quack me up! :)

...but apparently Popper's Benz was a little special. One more clipping and I'll quit, I promise (it's a little amusing towards the end). Here's the Reuters article of the arrest ("Vrroooom!): ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

I will fill this forum with my wisdom, or at least with a lot of my typing. I will create an incredible post, an Uber-post, that marye will have to make into its own forum or delete entirely for the sake of the feeble webservers. I will tell you a story, and you will sit quietly and read with rapt attention. I will tell you the Story of the Island of Phoo **********The Story of the Island of Phoo********** This is the story of the Island of Phoo, an beautiful place populated by a beautiful people, who go by the name of the Phooeys. Now the Phooeys have a lot in common with Deadheads, in that they enjoy spending their days dancing and twirling (naked, of course), plucking on coconut guitars and banging on tree stump drums. Their life is simple and pleasant, with the jungle providing plenty of good fruits, nuts and vegetables, and the ocean providing plenty of fish and shrimp and shellfish to eat, and the springs of the island supply a naturally effervescent water that is sweet and bubbly and that keeps the Phooeys spry and youthful until well into old age. The weather is always wonderful, the air always smells of the tropical flowers, the days are warm and breezy and the nights are lit by stars invisible anywhere else in the world (strangely, there is a constellation the Phooeys have named Popperstaser but nobody knows what it means) Yes, the Island of Phoo is truly a tropical paradise, but this joyous existence comes with a price. Like most tropical islands, the Island of Phoo is volcanic in nature and the highest peak of the island is a dormant (mostly) volcano that has been named by the Phooeys (of course) Mount Phoo. I say dormant (mostly) because occasionally Mount Phoo does erupt, but it erupts in a kind of humorous way, not explosively and violent with lots of dangerous lava, it just kind of burps with a funny fart noise and a little rotten egg smell, and that's all. These infrequent eruptions wouldn't bother the Phooeys a bit, except that it awakens the mighty Phoo Bird, and it is the Phoo Bird that is the only blemish on the Phooey's otherwise idyllic existence. The Phoo Bird is a horrible beast, huge and scaly with great sharp claws and a great sharp beak and with a ravenous appetite for only one thing: Phooeys. Fortunately for the Phooeys, though, the Phoo Bird spends nearly all of its life asleep in its nest at the top of Mount Phoo. Except when Mount Phoo erupts with its fart-noise and bad smell that is, then the Phoo Bird wakes up from its long sleep with its stomach growling from hunger and a tremendous need to empty its gargantuan bowels. The great monster Phoo Bird flies up off the volcano, flies down towards the villages and the beaches, takes a mighty Phoo dump and begins to capture and devour any Phooeys unfortunate enough to catch its eye. Over the course of millenia, however, the Phooeys have learned how to protect themselves from the predations of the Phoo Bird. The Phooeys have learned the one place they can hide and escape the Phoo Bird. They can't hide in the jungle - the Phoo Bird can tear through the trees with its beak and find them. They can't hide in caves - the Phoo Bird uses its great claws and digs them out. They can't hide in the ocean - the Phoo Bird waits patiently until they come up for air and then snatches them out of the water and gobbles them up. The only place the Phooeys can escape from the Phoo Bird is by diving into the huge pile of Phoo droppings the Phoo Bird created soon after the volcano awakens it from its slumber. It sounds nasty, and it is, but the Phooeys have learned this is the price they must pay for their continued life of dancing and twirling and drinking of fizzy spring water. The Phooeys have learned the One True Rule of Life: If the Phoo shits, wear it. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

Couple of more paragraphs and I'd've had my own page. Heck. And I left out all the Phoo erotica too. Hot stuff, not all ages-appropriate. johnman woulda dropped his cookies. ********************************************* I have a sigfile! --> www.kindveggieburritos.com *********************************************

Washington state has more cops per capita than any other state in the land. In the course of one year, I was pulled over for speeding on three different occassions. There are so many cops out there. It's bad bad bad bad baaaahhhd!

Arrest made after $2.7 million of Victoria's Secret dirty undees found being sold by George Tutaya, of Rego Park, NY. There was more than $26,000 unsold bras in his home. Who would have thought there was that much $ in the "whites."

surely you jest!! might drop a pizza, even a beer (shudder!!) but a cookie? wouldn't happen, man! not on my watch. hey unbrknchain, would like to know where you got that info on the number of police in washington state. i live in Tacoma and i think cali prolly has us beat tho i do believe king county has an excessive amount.........just curious