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  • marye
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    looks okay here
    but if you run into trouble lemme know and I'll nuke the extra.
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    the Long and the Short of it
    Sorry for the double post I can't figure out how to delete a post
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    My 1st Grateful Dead show was NYE 1971 at Winterland.I spent the next 15 years on the road and mostly in the "alternative" economic system in the Greater SF Bay area and counties to the north (with a brief sojourn in Tucson, Arizona). Most of the middle 70s to early 80s were spent "up North," guerrilla gardening. During all that time The Dead and my particular family of fellow Dead Heads were THE CENTRAL focus of my life. Everything from the music, to romance, to children, to how I earned a living revolved around that scene. Getting high for fun, turned into getting high for profit, and finally, to getting strung out as a hard fall from grace I lost my life-partner and child. That breakup - caused by too many reasons to fathom; but definitely fanned and fed by my drug use and addiction - was an ugly, sad, tragic, period; full of self-pity, guilt, and remorse. And, of course MORE DOPE! Got another family. Got REALLY strung out. By this time I had entered the "mainstream" economy, but was shocked at all the chicanery "straight" folks could get up to. But that's beside the point. Drugs finally stopped working - literally - I could not get enough DOPE into my system in order to get high. I could stay "well," but I COULD NOT get high anymore. Had a moment of clarity - got clean, July 21, 1989. I worked a half-ass program of recovery, but by "the grace and mercy of the miracle of recovery," I stayed clean for 17 (seventeen) years! Eventually, because my participation in my own recovery and (just as important) in the recovery of others was less than enthusiastic, my spiritual conditioned began to suffer. Meetings became a bore and a chore; my fellow recovering addicts became an object of my resentmeant. I stopped going to meetings on a regular basis. Of course, before long, I relapsed - to my utter SHOCK & SURPRISE. Pain meds prescribed for a legit reason, but by an UNINFORMED doctor - I chose to keep him in the dark about my status as an addict - were the substance I began to abuse. As prescribed, "1 or 2, every 6-8 hours as needed for pain" became "6 or 8 every 1 or 2 hours as I DESIRE to get LOADED." I stayed "out there" for the next six years. Finally, I came back to "the rooms" at my wife's urging - that's right, this angel has stayed with me through thick, thin, and whatever the cat brought in. I sat in meetings for a few days, blubbering to myself while all those around me tried to get the message of recovery through my thick, muddled head. ACTION was urged by all, get a sponsor, read the literature, WORK THE STEPS! Tomorrow I see my pain doc; cop to being a 12 stepper, and begin to taper off all narcotic pain-meds. Even when prescribed for legit pain by an INFORMED doctor, FOR ME using narcotic pain meds is just too slippery-a-slope. This is NOT a judgement for any other recovering addict who has a legit need for (any kind of) medication - this is just what I have to do IN MY CASE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. Day-after-tomorrow will once again be Day 31 for this addict, as long as I don't do something really DUMB. I also meet with my sponsor on that day, as on every Saturday morning. That is the BIG CHANGE this time around - I finally have a sponsor with whom I meet on a REGULAR basis EVERY WEEK! I am learning that the 3rd step, to make a decision to surrender my will and my life over to THE CARE of a power-greater-than-myself must be followed up by ACTION: 1. GET HONEST 2. WORK THE REST OF THE STEPS Okay, that's more than I meant to share, thanks for listening, that is, if you made it this far. If not, well . . . thanks anyway! Love to all, JiJi
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    If I am in New York in the US of A; can I look outmy window and see India? Great questions.
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    HI...
    ...although I am in recovery, this is sort of an off topic post. I am putting it here because it seems to be the only place the webiste will allow me to post. Can anyone explain to me why the grateful dead community/family seems to be denying the existance of Bruce Hornsby? Was this at his request? Was there a falling out? How many years do you have to play with the band to become a member? I am looking at a picture of the hall of fame induction and he is clearly standing there. I have tapes with him clearly playing. I saw him live. I am not insane. Even the picturte in question (in the Grateful Dead scrapbook) shows him, but deliberately ignores him in the caption. The cardboard cutout of Jerry is clearly identified, but we are supposed to pretend that Bruce is not in the picture. What gives? Tom Constanten is listed as a member of the band and I don't beleive I ever heard a live recording with him in it.....
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    Found you here this morning andwanted to drop you a vibe and love and a note. Being sober will not be hard to be if you remember that's what you want to be. If you think you'd rather be (insert your shoice of words) it will be aweful and you might fail at your endeavor. *Want* to be sober and you will succeed. It won't matter where you are because our wants almost always win in our behaviors. Like minded friends just make it super extra fun. Want all good things for yourself and you'll find your wants; right at your own backdoor. We are creatures of our own pleasures; let being sober be what pleases you most and the sailing will be smoother that expected. As for the addiction part, teach your body well, it needs a new motivation for pleasure. A brisk walk can get you high as can volunteering and many other wonderful, exciting, creative, and magical choices. All the best to you, jaybird13. One of my dearest friends friend just made it to a brand new existence and their life is brand new. Wharf Rats Rock, be proud. "Whiskey got no hold on me." -Steve Earle
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    I just went into recovery from alcoholism last Thursday. I love my new life already but I was concerned about going to shows and festivals this summer without any sober friends. A good friend of mine told me to check into Wharf Rats to help me solve this dilemma. Man, am I glad to know you guys are out there! I will keep an eye on what's going on and will post when I'm out and about to see if any Rats will be going to the same places. I live in Jackson, TN and usually go to Memphis more than anywhere else right now. If there's anybody out there that's in the area please feel free to contact me, I need all the sober buddies I can get. Thanks!
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    Hey family, Been a while since I checked in. A lot going on. My son is almost 14. Going through the growing pains of the teenage blues with him. I'm doing good. Learning how to show up different in my life, one day at a time. I'm not agro, or stressed anymore, just sort of calm and serene. I've got some inner peace that I didn't know was possible. In fact when I saw others happy and at peace I thought that they were faking it. That it wasn't real. But now I sort of just roll with the punches. Lost my grandmother in September. That was sad. But again, I've learned some tools since I've been clean and any adversity I face is just an opportunity to become stronger and add tools to my tool box. Christmas is here, yet again, my favorite time of year. I've made a lot of good friends now and most importantly I've connected with my higher power. And trust me when I say that that power metamorphasizes from moment to moment sometimes. What ever keeps me clean but I've built trust with my higher power and from that has come faith!! I am so super blessed. Actually, I used to run to Haight for the love of the family, never understanding the words of the woman at my first show, "we're your family", I guess now that means that I'm right where I need to be. As much as I love the Haight, I don't have to get outside of myself to find the love anymore. I do miss the Fam though!! One Love!! Peace and Inity forIver!!! I love you family!! 21 months and staying strong!! Zelda
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    Hi, I've been in recovery for 19 days. I am wondering if there will be aWharf Rat presence at the Chicago Allstate Further show this Friday. This will be my first concert that I attend sober. I was hoping to learn more about the following: 1. Where is the Wharf Rat table generally located? I realize there will be yellow balloons, but I was curious if there was a designated area inside the venue. 2. Would I need a floor ticket to access the table? 3. Is there a meeting preceding the event, and, if so, where and when? Thank you in advance for any help/information. - VM wickerparkwharfrat@gmail.com
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    i'm a young kid and i'm really grateful to have a chance at recovery this early in life. i was on furthur tour for a while and uh ya know, whiskey and l was what we lived on like everyone else. i remember always walking by the wharf rats table and never knew what the hell was going on. never had any idea that those people were sober or that i was an addict. never knew why everyone was always clapping and why they weren't drinking. i always thought wharf rats was like some group of old heads and i wasn't welcome. anyways i started getting sober over the summer after catching a case in the summer and i've never been happier. i was at the spac show over the summer but couldn't find the table but i'll be at albany on tuesday and that will be my first wharf rats meeting. i live in schenectady, ny right now and go to aa meetings around the area. if you live in the area, give me a holler. i would love to meet ya and would love to know if there is already wharf rats meetings up here, and if not, i'd like to try to get it going see ya tuesday
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but i`ve been free of the ciggaretes and the pot for little over two months now . I`ll smoke cheep cigars but it not as much as the cig`s were ( a pack or two a day). also suffer from cronick pain and have cut my med intake in half within the past month . hopefully i can get myself completley clean and "FREE " eventually . what a process (more like a battle), may explain the strange vivid dreams i`ve been having , hopefully those will stop soon .. Peace .. Stu ..
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that last bit about the dreams struck a chord with me too, having nothing to do with the Wharf Rats. I learned a few years ago that some subset of the population, like 10%, has a well-documented issue of getting horrific nightmares from opiates and opioids. I learned this during a spell of frequent sprained ankles; the nightmares were bad enough that I was literally afraid to sleep and preferred the pain. They thought I was really weird at Kaiser when I put my good foot down and said NO OPIATES. NO OPIOIDS on the last sprained ankle, because of course they usually have the opposite problem.
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hey all. just an observation here. lately it seems that if i miss out on some meetings, things start to go a little south for me. as soon as i start back, good things come round-job interviews, jobs, and good news all around. sounds a bit superstitious maybe and it could be that my spiritual level gets a little drained without a meeting. it's kinda cosmic to me, but i was wonderin if anyone else has noticed anything similar. nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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the vivid.lifelike dreams are surely comin from yer medication.know that thing only too good....
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It was great to see so many of you at the break meeting in Mt. View. Thanks for being there! I also really enjoyed looking around during the show and spotting the yellow stickers on so many of you. I truly enjoyed seeing the show clean and sober. It gave me a lot of encouragement to see so many others committed to having a good time without the drugs. You don't need dope to dance!
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Heart felt thanks to all of my Wharf Rat brothers and sisters, especially Jimmy B. from Santa Cruz for your support before during and after the shows, and to my new friend Kym from Az who will be joining me for Ratdog in September. First night @ Shoreline I was celebrating 18 months sober! Awesome stuff. We sang Black Peter in the circle at the end of the meeting. Gave me chills. Second night the serenity prayer. Really don't need dope to dance. My neighbors in my aisle had to clear out around me during China>Rider on the second night. Can't wait for the fall/winter. I know the band had a great time on this tour and they'll need to do it again real soon. Until then.... :-) :-) :-)
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peace and love to you all
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this spring was my first sober shows, except when i was too burned out on a long tour to use on a particular night. i actually remember most of what i experienced. DC and C-Ville were all i could ask for with favorites played in..dark star, st.stephen, foolish heart, passenger, pride of cuc., mason's... and so on. wish i had found the wharf rats long ago, but, "everything leads up to this day" any wharf rats around the winchester, va area? contact me, please...Peace
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I'd love to know if any Rats from Ohio are going to Rothbury? I've been a WR since 1987 and had to miss this latest tour due to getting a new job and moving to Ohio. Now I'm ready for a long weekend of excellent music at a new venue (Roo just played itself out.) Looks like I'm going to drive in solo; I know once I get there, I won't be alone. But wanted to pitch my tent near likeminded souls... Always looking for my old Tour rats 1989-1984. Anyone out there? Thanks to all who've taken on the tables in this century and welcome to the family to those who are new. You know it's going to get stranger, so let's get on with the show! much gratitude, Jerry Girl new to Ohio
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We will have a booth at Rothbury,I am part of the team. Also check the map for camping and look for the yellow balloon.There will be camp traction available. send me PM if you want.Peace, Love and Recovery, lefty
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Thanks for all the fellowship at Camp traction, th etables, & the meetings at set break at Rothbury. You guyz & galz made my trip the most memorable festie I have possibly ever been two. Look forward to seeing me family down the road... Peace Franko "No matter where you go, there you are..." Buckaroo Bonzai
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Shoreline 5/10/09 was Magical!!! Every time I go to a show, whether it is Phil & Friends or The Dead, I enjoy the Spiritual Nature of the Wharf Rat Meetings at intermission. It is such a joy to get to hang out and meet the other Wharf Rats at the table with the yellow balloons. As the years roll by, it has become a family get together. We are family. You are my brothers and sisters. I am extremely Grateful I got to experience the 2009 Dead Tour, and even more Grateful I got to enjoy it clean. One Show at a Time!!!
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Thank you..... for a real good time! It was great meeting you and the other family there. I want to thank Miko for coordinating the booth and the rest of our team ,Benji,Bob E, Schlamie and Frankie. Special thanks to John and Camp Traction.Most thanks to all that came by the booth and attended the set break meetings.....without you, there's no us! And all thanks to HP who makes it all possible.You all helped me stay clean for one more show.....incident....festie.Peace, Love and Recovery, lefty
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it works for lots like that. i think it keeps u focused on the next thing that has to be done. keep going! more will be revealed.
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Hey wharfrats could use some positive mojo for a brother in a bad way in jail beam some of that good clean energy to my friend, Robert in CoCo County Jail he,s got 10 years and i got 9 yrs 10 months,love ya all
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it can only get better nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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Hey folks! My friend Stanley and I have resurected the Seattle meeting that used to gather a few years back. We are meeting at the Fremont Baptist Church on Thursday nights at 7:00 PM. These are open meetings of course and we would love to connect with other wharf rats in the Seattle area. Send us an email (seattlewharfrats at gmail) if you would like to get on our mailing list and find out more about our meeting in Seattle. We have been meeting for about two months now and we are still very small. Probably always will be small but I want to let it be known that we are doing this meeting for any folks that are interested. Still working on it! We decided to organize this meeting beacuse when I first got sober I looked up the Wharf Rats and discovered that sadly, there was no local group in Seattle. That's when the light bulb went on and I said to myself, that's because we are not doing it! This has been significant for me and has absolutely been a postive influence in my life. My parents named me August, after the man in the song, and my middle name was given as Dupree, after that guy in the other song about diamond blues. And man oh man have I got the diamond blues now!!! Hit me up. I could really use some support and am always happy to give back. Nothing left to do but :), :), :)
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Good to see you starting up that meeting again, I will be arriving in Seattle next Thusday around 9:30 PM so I will miis the meeting, but any of yall going to see Ratdog? Like to hook up witth yall!! North Carolina wharfrat!! Heading for the promised land!!
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I am going to try to make the show. The Wharf Rats will have a table operating at the show. Welcome to Seattle! Nothing left to do but :), :), :)
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Hope to see you there!!!
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First sober show last May - my thanks to all the Whafrats that supported me, before, during and in the days after the show, especially Randy. Ratdog now looms - headed out for SLO with support of The Other One 2, maybe Jimmy C and a few others to meet up with. And perhaps a but "Further" if it is in the universal plan. Looking forward to the Wharfrat table and group yet to meet (and maybe some new bumperstickers that will hold up in the Arizonz sun and heat!! Love, peace & tickets as needed!
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I finally strung together 90 days in a row. I'm stoked. Doing it 12 step, or rather one step at a time... Life has been going good. Still looking for work.Zelda
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90 DAYS IS HUGE! actually 1 day is . We are here for you. 12 steps work best with a sponsor and meetings, a homegroup where you connect. I hope these are suggestions you already do or at least are willing to try.I am happy for you.peace,love and recovery lefty
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Well I have been in recovery for 9 months..I never thought I would ever be sober this long and actually enjoy it. I checked into a long term rehab a while back. I got sick of being a slave to booze and drugs;plus watching my kids die around me. I will be going to my first shows (dso) soon since being clean. I am a little nervous about it. I don't know how my fam is going to react or how I will handle it. I was a ghetto tour kid. If you know what I am talking about you can understand the big change for me. I quit doing tour about 4 or 5 years ago and just starting catching shows. I landed a career as a sound engineer/stage hand. Dream come true. I have worked with Donna, Phil and Bobby. I mostly mix at festies around the north east though. I haven't got back into work yet either. I am waiting for the spring so my head will me better. Anyways it is hard for me to relate to people sometimes at meetings and I was wondering if there are any heads in Northeastern PA that are sober and might want to talk, kick it or go to shows together. I need a sober support base in the lifestyle. I am in Scranton PA...If there are any Wharf Rats around NEPA or anyone with good advice hit me back.... ~one~
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so glad you made it! keep up the good work bro. your post said you were at 9 months and that was just over a month ago. now you are in double figures with 10 months, strive on dude and get a year. i hope you have a single sobriety date, it worked and still does for me. personal message me anytime bro. i had a srv jam out today, ahhh! peace, shack
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havent posted in a looooong while-life on lifes terms i guess-hope you are all well.....life is so great-sobriety is awesome...anyone goin to the further shows in december????
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Most excellent news on NYE shows today - hoping for another trip out from the desert to the city and another chance to say Hi to the Wharf Rats! Sobriety Rocks!
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are you still lurking around here? drop me a message to let me know nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile
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Hey friends-are any of you goin to Sat Dec. 12 in Asbury? I have tickets for Sun Dec. 13 and just found out I have to go to a conference on Monday so I need to see if I can find someone KIND enough to trade with me.....I wanna go so bad but duty calls I guess...lol....if anyone knows anything hit me up-peace love n sobriety-hippiechickmom
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I just saw this forum and about S*&^ on myself too kind my sobriety dat is 04-19-07I remeber seeing the warf rats on tour and would mock and ridicule them out of spite. Once sober and able to regain my composer and clarity its funny how you see the world through different eyes. The song itself really gets to me Ill get back on my feet again the good lord willing! What a inspiration. To think I was the Captain of the Titantic and was going down with my ship and there aint a damn thing you can do about it. Any other Southest people out there Id love to catch a meeting -PM me Peace,Rich
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Hey all, If the universe is willing, on the first of December I'll have 6 months. Just thought I'd give everyone a little update. Still truckin'. Zelda
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I'll be at the Hammerstien shows and New Years Eve shows!! Dont need dope to dance!!!
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Thanks for the update, keep doin' what your doin' and 12/1 will be here before you know it! Congrats on about 5 and1/2 months.ONE DAY AT A TIME............peace, love and recovery, lefty
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kevin c im going up to vermont for a couple dso shows dec 1st and 2nd just wondering if the wharf rats will be there.ive been sober since july 11th 2008 and have seen dso 3 times and 2 dead shows last spring and i still have as much fun if not more fun than i did seeing the dead 100 plus times since 1987 always waisted.im flying solo to these 2 vermont dso shows and hope to see some of you there.
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hey you! that is an awesome turning point at six months. the slope is downhill to another pinacle point at one year. days turn into weeks into months and a life without getting wasted and stupid now appears. that was me, stupid, the center of attention, and etc. go slow and don't let anybody put bs in your thinking. i am 4y in feb and my brain is still pickled enuf in my thinking. for me a parallel line exists now with my love for jer and the fellas ... just that things fit together very nicely now. message me or stay into this, ya got friends. have a grateful holiday! peace, shack
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IT'S 12/1 so that must mean you made it 6 months clean! Congrads and keep on I just just made 20 years 11/21, a day at a time,a show at a time.If I can do it so can you especially if we all do it together!peace, love and recovery, lefty
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Hey Wharf Rats, My name is Dennis, long over do for this site. Lazy I guess. I'm very involved with the Save Your Face Wharf Rat group on Long Island. Just wanted to give a shout out and say hi.Peace, Dennis
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Just listening to last nights show. Awesome stuff!! Cant wait for NYE. See ya all @ the break.♪♪♪♪♪♪
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Counting down the hours until NYE shows - heading out from the desert and looking forward to seeing you guys out there again! Will be looking for you, Jimmy C - time to meet! And will see you very soon, TheOtherOne2!
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We should all gather before the show........Celebrate recovery and the New Year......I'll be the guy wearing a tye-dye......hehe.......Or.....PM me for cell# Once in awhile you can get shown the light. In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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I had 8 years clean and sober but been whacked for the past year, only time i ever enjoyed being loaded was at a dead show or listening to the DEAD or thereabouts. Sure did enjoy the forum show and Bobby at the greek, (I love that place *the 1 in LA) NICE PLACE to see a show, and all those years my friend and i snuck down the back side of the observatory to see free shows....oMG Im rambling Rose again....lol wish me luck gonna try 45 days of outpatient been going to outpatient the past 4 motnhs but they basically let u get loaded for 3 months if you want then make a decision....(my kind of Place) No pressure there....wish me luck my fellow wharf rats.....GDTRFB atm.....
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Got my flight, looks like I'M GOING TO THE BAY!!!!!!!!!!! Hope to see you all there. If not, maybe say Hello at DSO in Columbus or Cleveland Peace Love and Recovery lefty
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thats so exciting Lefty!!! We r going to Cornell for Valentines day....that should rock!Miss ya
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Didn't know that existed! Somehow I doubt that in today's economy they're going to get 56K for it though.
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Recently moved to Winchester...Northwestern Virginia W.R.'s please respond...is there a regular meeting or hows about we coordinate one.
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Zelda here. Still truckin with the recovery thing. I'll have nine months on the 1st of March. I still struggle though. Recently I went over to a family member's house and they were smoking ganja, I nearly couldn't resist. I'm feeling good about my recovery otherwise. Working on my fourth step, seems like it is taking forever. A little side note. I recently posted a listing in Seattle on Craigslist. I was looking for a band to play with. I am a harmonica player. I was on the movie tiedyed. But that doesn't mean much, a lot of people were, LOL. Anyway, I was the harmonica player featured that they kept going back to throughout the movie. I was only seventeen then and at my first Dead show. Anyway, someone got back with me. Cee Cee James from the Cee Cee James band. I had two auditions with her. She liked my stuff so she said she wanted to work with me. However, a couple days later there was a serious family emergency and she decided she needed to be dedicated to that. What a bummer. They were perfect. Her band had just got back from the Memphis blue competition they were invited to. They were real good. Check em out at www.ceeceejames.com. Well, I guess it's back to the drawing board. I've listed another posting and hope that someone gets in touch with me. I was looking into joining the American Federation of Musicians Union in Seattle. Looks like they might be able to help me get in touch with other musicians and mayber some representation. Peace, Zelda
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Well... since I used to jam with my 12er on the Haight & Fisherman's Wharf back in the 90s, I'll leave this link here. It's a freebie HQ mp3 first release that is kind of tricky to get at by way of the usual hurdles: http://sio.midco.net/m3zh3p/modada/track_01.mp3 http://sio.midco.net/m3zh3p/modada/track_02.mp3 (Welcome to my perception of Shakedown Street... lol) http://sio.midco.net/m3zh3p/modada/track_03.mp3 Love you all. You're my real life family and will always be. C* aka Spider (from Haight Street)