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This is the third (fourth) time around for this comment (dead.net crashed several time before i was able to save this verion) hopefully, it will go through this time. so...As I was Saying earlier, there is a huge misconception about the term "lossless" as it relates to music. It's not a "format" but a property of copying - either you keep everything (lossless), or you agree to lose some information (lossy). When I send out a wav cd version of music, it's the same as if i sent you the flac version and you converted it to wav yourelf , so the conversation should not be about flac or wav - in thte post cassette world, it doesn't matter. The other thing i wanted to say was that what folks do with the music after it leaves us is up tto them - my job is to initiate - not control what happens later I'm sure there was more i wanted to say, but after having the browsernator crashing three times & trying to re-think what I was trying to say, someone else may have ideas on what i was trying to say or not say. like maybe we need lots of little sailboats vs. a couple of titanics

I was going to start the summer 1981 vine (actually there are some more May shows that I can include also) but it looks like there are a lot of new vines be started up right now and I don't want to flood marye with too much at once. So maybe I'll wait a couple of days, unless of course it doesn't matter? Then I am almost ready to start a Fall 1981 Vine. So I will have a "More May and Summer 1981 Vine" coming really soon and a "Fall 1981 Vine" right on its heels! All in all it will be a pretty good representation of 1981 - One of the best years ever in my opinion! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

come on now...get with it!!!!LOSSLESS is the ONLY way to go....why bother with anything else..LOSSLESS will make your (our) collections last forever...why continue to change as technology does?...just go shnflac and convert accordingly...memory is an issue (of course)...save up and go invest in an external hard drive for a coupla hundred bucks (tops) that will preserve/backup/store all of your collection in a unit the size of a hardcover book....plus you won't be replacing your burner as frequently and most importantly your collection's test of time will be won!!! Not dead...just grateful :) thanks for turning me onto LOSSLESS Dstache...it's changed my life. :) "In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head. Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

I see the vineyard has some new vines growing. dstache's contributions are amazing! Quite an undertaking, thats a lot of work.

glad to have you back with us, Lopezz!

and by future vines, I mean vines that you are working on posting for later, not vines that are ready to go. For vines that are ready to go and you want people to start signing up, post over at the New Vines section. I believe Marye's intent is for only "new vines" to be posted there, and for all discussions to occur here.

Hey now Lopezz! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."

This is the thread we should use to make it easier on Marye, so that when she goes to the new vines thread she doesn't have to wade through a bunch of posts to find the new vines to be posted. People are still posting comments over there, but not to the same extent, and hopefully soon everyone will know to come here to talk about vining, future vines, etc. Good to have you back, Lopezz!

How did this topic come about? I guess I have some catching up to do.

I have had trouble reading the DVDs in a couple of the recent vines, in particular the SHN/FLAC 1973 and SHN/FLAC 1970 series. After doing some research, I have learned that my DVD drive cannot read DVDs that are burned in UDF format. There are competing DVD formats and the Mac OS has stayed with the old format (ISO, also known as ISO-9660) rather than fully adopting the newer standard (UDF), which Microsoft is behind (shock, amazement!). So DVDs burned in UDF format look blank to the DVD drive on my Mac but can be read by the DVD drive in my laptop from work, which is (of course) a PC. To get around the problem I've been using my work laptop to transfer the FLAC/SHN files to a USB drive, which my Mac can then read. The only alternative is to buy a $50 piece of software that enables the Mac DVD drive to read UDF format, and I am obviously trying to avoid that option. Okay, enough gobbledygook, here's the quick and easy solution, for those willing to accommodate me (and probably, any other Mac users in the Vineyard): when you burn the DVDs, use ISO format instead of UDF format. Everybody's DVD drives can read the ISO format, so it won't cause problems for either the Mac or PC users. From what I've read, the settings on DVD-burning software for the PC are easy to change to ISO format just before a burn. Many thanks, and now back to regular programming . . . ~~~~~~~ "They say Cain caught Abel rolling loaded dice"