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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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  • I Woke Today
    5 years 8 months ago
    Is the "All the Music Edition" still available

    besides looking at the resale sites, are the All the music edition of Europe '72 still available on the Dead website for purchase?

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    Gergg
    6 years ago
    What to hear after this

    I've been neck deep in this box for a month and its awesome. I'm pretty close to hearing the whole tour but have lost track to be honest. If I wanted to dig this deep into another batch of Dead that would represent the band's next step in their development after the 72 tour what would it be?

  • marye
    6 years 4 months ago
    alas no
    these were all snapped up years ago, though you may find someone willing to part with theirs.
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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I haven't read all the posts here, but I can relate to most of them. As I missed out initially and was on the stand-by list, a very kind person sent me a code, and in a matter of minutes my box set was paid for and reserved. I'm one of the lucky ones. The main issues I see are people that are pissed they missed out (as I was) and pissed about the price. First, no one should argue with the price. $450 FOR 22 SHOWS IS A STEAL, EVEN FOR MUSIC ONLY. The Jimi Hendrix box set is THREE discs, and sixty bucks! I do think however that ONE per customer would be the only fair way to sell it. It's irrelevant at this point, just my opinion. Price gougers SUCK and can and will get bad kharma........just wait. Thanks to those who have given others codes, and I will be making a Rex donation to keep the kharma going.
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I signed up so many times to get notices and don't get anything from them...i would've bought the set with additions but i'm not going to pay the same price and just get the music, although in the end you probably just listen to the music and not the added stuff in the box...i'm not sure if it'll really be worth having 22 shows in a row...it probably will be as they were recorded with the intent of possible commerical release (and there were several releases from the 72 eurupean tour)...but i think a drop in the price is in order...i remember back in 2005 or so i was one of the lucky one's to get a notification and buy it right away, i had no idea it would sell for the high amounts it did on ebay...i'll probably get it if it becomes available but i think there should be a drop in the price if it's inferior to the 1st version...they said it's all about the music...okay then charge us for the music and not charge for the extra stuff when it's not in the package anymore...i don't care if it's 400$ just drop the price a little to reflect the difference...but i'm jumping the gun so far nowhere is it available to purchase they're trying to create a demand it seems...i guess it all depends on commitment...they can't print up 10,000 or so sets if only 4,000 buy...others worked out the ligistics better than i can.
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It's being sold on EBAY for 1,099$ for some reason the grateful dead won't send me any e-mails and i signed up for it 10s of times...and i check all my folders for e-mails...maybe i'm just better off forgetting about this stuff, it could very well be the grateful dead selling them for over 1,000$ a piece for all we know.
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....and I hope this will be taken in the spirit it is given, as (hopefully) constructive criticism, your market research seems to be lacking. I mean, it sure is nice when response to a newly released product exceeds expectations....but the sales forecast for this release wasn't even close. Not only wasn't it even in the same ballpark, it wasn't even in the same galaxy! And when you miss a sales forecast that badly it ultimately costs money, you lose profits, brand loyalty, etc, etc. I know that sounds like Corp-Speak BS, and it is, but I think that you will see all of those buzz terms reflected in the comments right here in this forum over the next few weeks. What confuses me is, I can't think of any corp entity the size of DeadCo/GDP/whatever that has a closer relationship with their customers. A direct relationship, decades old, with the most dedicated and loyal customers on the planet. The customer base is truly "family". So, how is it possible to miss a sales forecast this badly?? Or, perhaps even worse, to misjudge what the customer desires of the product? While the above may seem to be a contradictory statement..."if we sold out the entire run in only 4days on a pre-order, obviously people wanted it, right?"...what I am referring to is the "limited edition" aspect of the release. I'm not sure this was a good decision. I would think that if the market research and sales forecast was done more accurately then a better deal could have been made with the manufacturers, thereby negating the need for the "limited edition" aspect. Personally speaking, this looks like a GREAT box set! Really nice product at a fair price. I WANT ONE!! But, unfortunately, they are now all sold out. And, I hate to say it, but I am unlikely to shell out the "limited edition" price for the no-frills package. And it's not because I don't want the music, that it's an unfair price or even that I can't afford it (I can)....it's just that by having both products on the showroom floor at the same time, for the same price, is not a great idea. For example, if a person goes into a car dealership and sees 2 identical vehicles, priced exactly the same, except one was loaded with every option, bell & whistle available while the other didn't even have floor mats or an AM radio....do you think that the person is going to want to buy the equally expensive no-frills model? With no chance of ever getting those previously available options. No, they are simply going to think about the deal that they missed out on. And they are going to be really pissed when they see scumbag profiteers out there scalping the deluxe model. Perhaps this is not a good analogy. After all, cars and music don't necessarily equate. But I can't help but believe that some fans will feel somewhat "left out"....even when they were patiently waiting in line, money in hand, giddily waiting to get this cool box set...while DeadCo didn't do the best that could be done for themselves, and the scalper scum are, once again, going to take advantage of the scene. OK, soapbox mode now set to *off*. I just had to vent a little disappointment at getting shut out of the box set deal. (the "DeadCo" thing isn't meant to be snarky, I just don't know the business structure) Sincere thanks to all of those who have put their time, money, blood, sweat and hearts into making available the music that we all love so much. This monster box does look like a really cool thing and I am thankful that the music continues to flow!
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On January 29th, 2011 dedhed76 said: First, no one should argue with the price. $450 FOR 22 SHOWS IS A STEAL, EVEN FOR MUSIC ONLY. The Jimi Hendrix box set is THREE discs, and sixty bucks
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I am familiar with a 4 disc boxset (The Jimi Hendrix Experience). This one is now selling for $38 on most online sites. Which one is the 3 disc $60 version? There is also a new one with 4 discs and a DVD for about $50 called West Coast Seattle Boy.
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Why would they say only 7,000? Maybe they thought that would be the max i know ELVIS recently had a box set of everything he recorded in his life span and they took a long time to sell out granted it was 700$...okay it sold out so why not take more orders for just the music and not insult the fanbase and lower the price since it'll be just music...which seems fair...and it's a fact people already have the boxset up for sale on EBAY for over 1,000$ it's not an exaggeration it's really there...and yeah Jimi Hendrix boxet was 60$ then they come down, but most importantly it was a limited edition...limited edition means buy now...it looks like i'll have to check this website on a daily basis because i totally missed this offer, my favorite period for the dead is 1969-1973 by far...1977-1980 was good too, then it's here and there...so i would be insane for this...well it's not until september and maybe they'll change their plans...maybe they'll see this set can be mass produced and perhaps millions of people will buy it rather than just their most loyal fans.
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I don't know nor understand the business structure or relationships (whatever you call them)very well but at the least dead.net has looked out for and hooked up the fans. In November during the 30 Days promotion they gave out over 30 free (un-released) song downloads and daily/weekly prizes (Road Trips, Pure Jerry). It was a lot of fun and a very cool gesture I thought. Things could have been carried out better all across the board with E72 but I feel that there IS love for the fans. Btw .. How about a new 30 day promotion =) *hint hint* ... April is coming up =) Or a 31 day and do it in March =) *hint hint*nudge nudge* Only because it was a lot of fun and it could bring about some needed goodwill.. Thanks dead.net! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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You're right Jackstraw, they did offer 32 songs (if you count the "B" versions) completely free for download, yes, mp3, but still free. This opened this site up to about a million facebook users, plus everyone else who are regulars to this site. Now you would think, after this very successful endevor, that Rhino and the ptb would have thought "wow, there were so many people interested in these mp3 downloads, and so much traffic on the site (so much so it crashed several times) that maybe we should not limit this production to so few" but, they didn't seem to have the foresight to finish what they started with the 30 days promotion, they pumped up the site, got everyone reintroduced and reinterested, then did this very limited release of a very popular run. Kinda makes one go "hun?"
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They should have used the 30 Day as a marketing tool and, you know, applied that data to their E72 projection. D-uoh!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I'm on the stand-by list...anyone having an extra code?
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I reserved the music only, which promises not only a sweet September, but also an awesome August when I'll be listening to it as I vacation across eastern Europe. I'm not too bummed about missing out on the holy box set, since this way I won't feel guilty about every tiny bump and scratch the disk packaging gets as I lug it around. And replica memorabilia, while cool, is not the be all and end all of the world. I do have a few questions, however, about content. Are the individual show liner notes and the "hard-bound coffee-table book" one and the same thing or do music only purchasers still receive liner notes in the individual show packagings. Also is the Germany DVD that's rumored only being sent to the 7200 box set people or do music only purchasers receive it as well. If it is only for those with the box set, will the DVD ever be rereleased individually, à la "Birth of the Dead". Oh and some speculative musings about the 30 Days of Dead. First off, counting "B" versions it was 32 tracks. There were several tracks that had multiple songs labeled (sometimes very generously) as connected jams. I believe the final song count was 38, including the "B" versions and counting tracks like Cassidy->Don't Ease Me In as more than one song. Speaking of the B versions, the He's Gone B version will be featured in this Europe 72 release (L'Olympia Theater Paris France - 5/4/72). The consideration and abandonment of this version of He's Gone as the official selection for the 30 Days of Dead makes me wonder A) Was the 30 Days of Dead a test to see weather this release would fly and B) had the decision to only release 7,200 boxes already been made way back in November, before taking into account the breadth of the massive love of this music by Deadheads around the world as shown by the 30 Days promotion?
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Does anyone know if just a hold is put on your credit card or does the charge actually happen now. I've gotten quite a few different responses.
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I can't believe all these posts of pure frustration!!! This is the worst i've ever seen this sight in all the years. Codes no codes, botched orders, unable to order wow theres a suprise, limited edition or music only same price are you kidding me!! People selling these on ebay for 1000.00 dollars 8 months before they even ship and when they do no one knows what their getting! I've got every limited or not box they have ever sold but this is a disgrace not for the price but for the half ass operation!! I have better things to do.
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but in the case of most banks the funds do need to be available when you place the order. The hold goes off after a few days from what people are reporting.
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I reserved a copy of the box set and just found out the card I used is expiring before September and my wife informed me we are not keeping this card. Do you know if it's a problem to change cards and who to contact?
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I work in the electronic funds transfer industry, so here's my educated guesses about holds and such. My network only deals with Visa and MasterCard, so don't take this as gospel for Discover, AmEx, etc. (Although the rules should be similar.) Since these are not PIN-based transactions, the merchant (I'll use dead.net as the name, I don't know what the official name would be on the auths) will send an authorization request to your card issuer. This auth request would be for the amount of the box, shipping, whatever incidental charges there are, whatever. In a more normal transaction-- where the item is being shipped immediately, rather than nine months from now-- this would be followed in a few hours to a day or so with a completion advice.The completion is the big kahuna-- that's what will show up on your bill if you used a credit card or will be when the money is taken out of your bank account and sent off electronically to dead.net if you used a debit card. (In usual terms, a credit card is one that is not attached to any bank account, and you get a statement monthly and pay the statement; a debit card is attached to a bank account-- usually your checking account-- and the money is removed immediately for PINned transactions and when the completion advice is received on non-PIN purchases.) HOLDS are where the vagaries begin. Visa limits the card issuers to a maximum three-day hold, MasterCard to 30 days. (Although I believe Visa uses "business day" so the three days can stretch to five if it includes a weekend.) The exception is travel & entertainment authorizations, where the merchant can specify a hold period. These would be like hotel reservations, car rentals, and the like, not pre-orders of box set CDs. A credit card issuer is likely to hold the amount of the authorization for the full length of the hold period, or until a completion advice (or a reversal) is received. Since dead.net shouldn't be sending completions for many months, they're going to hold until the auth ages off. But for a credit card user, it's not "real money" that's tied up yet-- what it will do is reduce your available credit to go buy other stuff. I don't know how the financial reform has affected credit card issuers (my company only deals with the debit side) as to whether they can charge you over-limit fees if the auth pushed you over your credit limit. Because of the reforms on overdraft charges, a debit card issuer is pretty much definitely going to hold funds to cover that authorization, and will deny new tranactions that would overdraw your account should the completion arrive (or they'll charge you the overdraft fee and pay those other transactions if you signed the waiver to give them permission to do so). So for a Visa card that charge may be sitting around for up to five days, for MasterCard up to 30. You can try calling your financial institution and explaining the situation, that this authorization is for a pre-order that won't be completed for many months, to see if they will deactivate that outstanding authorization. Some banks will, some won't. My guess is that shortly before shipment dead.net will issue another authorization request, so that they're not shipping sets to people that have closed their accounts, frittered away the $450 on other stuff, etc. (I hope they provide some warning so people can be sure to have the funds there to cover the real charge!) *This* authorization will be followed up with the completion advice, and will then appear on your credit card statement or be pulled out of your debit account. I hope that helps. The real short answer is, if you used a debit card especially-- there's going to be a hold on your funds for a period. Talk to your financial institution for details. P.S. I'd never use a debit card for an online purchase. Also, I'd never use a debit or credit card anywhere that the card is out of my sight, like a restaurant or bar. P.P.S. If this *was* helpful, anyone got a spare code? ;-)
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this can probably be resolved, especially if you let customer service know in plenty of time, i.e. long before September, what the info on the new card is.
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That it's quite a stretch to correlate the known interest in downloading *free* material (ala 30 Days of Dead) to the potential interest in buying $450 material. That a zillion people are willing to pay nothing for your music doesn't really say much about how many would pay $450.
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You know that is wrong, nrps. :-( We Deadheads take care of each other, not steal codes from each other, and then try to sell them back to the unfortunate ones. Damn, we are family, and we don't treat family like that. That said... blacksharpie, that post you wrote was extremely helpful for many on here. :-) PM me with your email address. I have a miracle for you! :-)
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Everyday i send for a code to be sent and they never get back to me, they say 24 hours and 24 hours comes and goes...it used to be you can order something if you wanted to...now you can't, it guess they hold it for special fans or something...i bought all the box sets all along up until now but somewhere it went all wrong...i have a feeling most of the box set are being sold to EBAYers and will be sold for 1,000$ and they might be the grateful in disguise one guy on Ebay right now selling for $1,099 he's from Acworth GA...anybody know anyone from there? there couldn't of been too many people from there who bought a boxset...the dead police should cancel his orders as it makes the dead look bad when people gauge the dead like that...i'd sell a dead product if i had another product to replace it with that was better...but not to gauge the dead with...i wish i could've ordered this set but there comes a time when you must realize your business isn't welcomed.
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nrps, you should be permanently kicked off this site for trying to sell a code (as should all the others doing the same thing). You didn't spend a penny to obtain it but you want to make a profit off others' misfortune. That's pathetic.
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i wonder if all the people selling the box on ebay have bought two, or just do it for the fast bussiness: buy one sell it for the double
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I reserved a box set and will now be unable to complete my purchase... it says that if I don't order, my "reservation will be offered to someone on the waiting list". So morally should I give the code away, or would that be unfair to those who are on the waitlist? Thoughts?
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Violeteyes- I think either way your helping out this community. I was hooked up by a grate fellow head on here last week, so I would say offer it up. But I also hopped on the music only deal asap, and I am sure the expired codes will trickle down to the people that jumped at the chance to get the music only. On a side note, if all of these discs sound as good as Rockin the Rhein (3/24/72) I am going to be useless for the 1st 70+ hours straight when these things arrive!!!
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4/24/73 is the date from the Dusseldorf show. Anyways...... This is going to be AMAZING!
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so even the wait list for the regular set with just music has been sold out, i think maybe this should go to Rhino.com as this is much bigger than they thought...not for nothing 1972 had the best songs ever...i can see collecting other years of course but 1972 was the last hurrah as the original Grateful Dead as changes came soon after the European tour...but it's really hurtful it turned out this way...i'm thankful i got the 1969 box set with no problem didn't have to pay the crazy ebay price got it on this site as a pre-order...i think the people who do sell are a combo of fans or just opportunists to make some $$$...i think everyone was shocked at how much the 1969 sold for and how many people wanted it and still want it to this day...same will be the 1972 box set...i haven't monitored it but it was selling for over 1,000$ don't know if there's bids or it's a buy it now type of thing...what's weird is you'll have to wait 8 months to get your merchandise after spending a grand.
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Just thought I would chime in, since I've been following this since the beginning. I reserved a personalized (i.e. first 3,000) copy of the Europe '72 set. I placed my order right away using my personalized code, but received no email confirmation. When I checked my order status, only my Road Trips subscription was listed. I have since called and emailed several times. My order did not in fact go through, but I have been assured that my reservation is still good, and I have to sit tight and wait for a new code to be generated for me. Obviously I'm really anxious to get my order in, but I'm trying to be as patient as possible. Marye said she would check on what's going on for me, so I'm hoping this will get worked out soon. Good luck to everyone still dealing with this situation. And thanks to everyone who has been spreading good vibes in spite of the price gougers. Lee
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marye! Code-scalping is EVIL!********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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Bummed I missed out on the box. I've bought just about every live release. The only ones I don't have are the FW69 box and a few bonus disc. Despite trying to get on their email list several times, being a road trips subscriber, and several emails to customer service that go ignored, I've never gotten an email spam from dead.net! Late to the game even though I check dead.net all of the time :-( I've got my name in for the music only edition hoping it might get upgraded to the full box when peoples codes expire. Though I really don't want the music only edition, I'd love to get all the extra doohickies that come in the box. I also feel a little jilted that the price for the music only edition is the same as the full box, so probably won't buy that on principal. While I am very excited that rhino is releasing this incredible piece of history and hope they continue to offer up more complete shows, runs, and whole dang tours, I am really upset that they are not making enough copies of the box for people that want them, not limiting each person to one copy, the pure money grab charging the same price for the music only edition as the box, ebay scalper scum, and the overall poor handling of this release. If any kind head can float me a code, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'd gladly burn a dvd or two of some shn/flac's of your choice from my JGB heavy etree list for your kindness. PM me. PM's from scalper scum trying to sell codes will be ignored. Sorry for the rant and grovel. Cheers.
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People are offering to sell their codes for $$$$ there's something fundamentally wrong when you can't spend 450$ legitimatly for a box set...i think the Grateful dead or whoever is in charge of releases should rethink this quick, it's still 8 months away and the plans can be altered...obviously this is a far greater release than originally thought...there's going to be a ton of people who'll want this...no joke before i came across this i was reading where the 1972 european tour is ranked in the top 5 of all tours (rock era) EVER! so i think this should quickly be re-thought...it's not even close to being too late...take as many orders as possible and then start production when the orders taper off...or plan for production...people in America could use the work to produce these box sets.
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Violeteyes, I am sure there are plenty of folks out there, including myself, that would gladly take a miracle code if you offer it up. Go with what feels right.
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"On January 30th, 2011 new_england_dead said:I am familiar with a 4 disc boxset (The Jimi Hendrix Experience). This one is now selling for $38 on most online sites. Which one is the 3 disc $60 version? There is also a new one with 4 discs and a DVD for about $50 called West Coast Seattle Boy." I stand corrected, the Hendrix boxset was 4 discs. But it does retail for $59.95. You may find it cheaper on Amazon, etc. My point is that $450 is not a rippoff for over 60 discs, 22 shows. We all agree this is a historically significant event in the way of rock music releases. When the Fillmore '69 boxset was released, it was $70.00 for TEN cds! Lilke a fool I hesitated and missed out. I ended up getting a copy on ebay for about $300 which also included the bonus disc. I was happy considering I saw copies go for almost $800. Just yesterday one sold for $683. For those with out codes, just keep your fingers crossed. I didn't have one initially, and a kind person gave me one. Just ask and maybe one will find it's way to you. For those with extra codes, either giving it away or letting it expire is the right thing to do. I have a music only version reserved and will let it expire, as it doesn't get a code. At least someone else will be able to enjoy the music.
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Before suggesting that downloads are the way to go, please remember that Rhino downloads are currently only available within the US. Consider the reaction if the same limitation was applied to, say, the Road Trips series. If these were only available within the US and the rest of the world was shut out, I cannot imagine what the relevant forum posts would be like. Well I can and it ain't worth thinkin' about. As far as I know Rhino have never explained this policy. It would be nice if they did, then maybe the folks outside the US would understand - assuming that there is a sound and valid reason.
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They clearly stated this release would not be for everyone. Some of us want every show and every song. I do agree with downloads over CDs (I should say flac not mp3 format) but this release is a "special" arrangement. So it is not all that ridiculous. Placing the order, yes that was beyond ridiculous but the product itself is going to be as good as it gets. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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If the downloads were US-only, you can be sure that plenty of people would visit Demonoid to get them...
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For reasons that have never been made clear you cannot buy downloads from this site in Europe. However for some reason we Europeans CAN buy downloads of all the pre rhino releases including Dicks Picks and the Download Series from livedownloads.com It makes no sense to me. As for Nicholas' other point..well if he buys Europe 72, Steppin' Out, 100 Year Hall and Rockin the Rhein he will just about get what he is asking for....so what's the problem?
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I was able to purchase and download both "Road Trips Full Show" releases from The Spectrum from here.
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to the Powers That Be. Is there a licensing/contractual limitation that prevents Rhino from either expanding the production of more Boxed Sets and/or making the music available via download? If not, can someone in a position of authority (not Blair, who in my own opinion has lost all of his once-substantial credibilty) explain the basis for these decisions, and why a number of Deadheads will be forced to spend over one thousand dollars to obtain a copy of the set? Thank you. Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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I think the fan who said does one need over 30 china sunflower versions...maybe he's right and we should just leave it alone...if the dead don't want to release their music properly then i'm out i'm not going to pay for codes, not going to pay the same price for less...they went to far and i'll just stick with what i have and get the on the road's if they appeal to me...but generally i'm insulted how this played out...and the 24 hours and they'll e-mail me...they e-mailed me nothing in 120 hours.
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The boyz did not play Eugene, OR in 1972. They played Veneta, OR, aka 'Field Trip'. That is a good show, I really like Greatest Story from that show. However, I wouldn't call every song definitive...
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i have the money saved up but i think it's gotta go toward getting more Furthur tickets, especially now that the $450 is for a stripped down version.
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please refrain from the namecalling, thanks.
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To the people wondering and complaining about why the music-only version costs $450, I say this (again): 22 shows. 60+ CDs. $7-8 per CD. ~$25 per show. IT IS A DEAL. The ones getting a book, box set, and all the other stuff for $450 are clearly getting more for less, but that is great for them. The CD's themselves cost the amount they should. I wish people would understand this.
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Let's take this in perspective. If you don't like the price, don't buy it and move on.
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Folks, I'm a 28 year old who never got to see the Dead in their time, but nonetheless am as devoted as any long time head. My perspective is on this box set is uniformly positive. While I have almost 80 gigs of shows on my IPod (I'm up to listening about half a show a day most days), and while I fundamentally agree that Downloads are common sense at this point, the sound quality of the HDCD's on my stereo is so much better it is stunning. To test this I put on the Dark Star from Steppin' Out on my IPod and in my Oppo, and switched back and forth between them. The MP3 files were fine, but did not trigger the sub, meanwhile the CD had Phil and the boys practically playing in my room. The though of having every show from Europe at this level makes my knees weak in anticipation. I was lucky to get a full box, and as far as pricing goes, I'm also lucky enough to have a good job and to have salted some funds away (I am very far from a trust funder). I jumped at the box before they sold out and announced the music only set, although I would rather have had the music only if I had had that as an option. Anyone who has allowed anger to cloud their ability to see this as an awesome box with or without the extra goodies is missing out. Oh well. Bring on the 5-26-72 Two Souls in Communion.
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Alot of you don't realize it's not about the price it's not being able to buy it because there's corruption, like America has become corrupt and all of the world because it's citizen's can't identify corruption...when you can't spend 450$ to buy this boxset it's corruption...when you see it on EBAY for 1,099$ that's corruption...this is kind of thing is fundamentally wrong and it's microcosm of a corrupt society in so many levels...yes some of you were lucky to log on the day it went on sale, unfortunately i didn't log on thinking February 1st was going to be the day to log on but i logged on Friday and saw the boxset was gone...and i sent several notifications to get contacted but nothing...did receive offers from fans wanting to sell their codes for 600$-1200$ i don't know if they were kidding or serious...but then all of you are saying if you don't like the price don't buy it...when it's more than that, so much more than that and deeper that's fundamentally wrong...not to mention corrupt.