• October 13, 2011
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    Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition

    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings -
    All The Music Edition

    Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

    We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings -
All The Music Edition

Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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I personally recommend using a receiver to decode hdcd. You can play the cds on any player and get an excellent result. Marantz SR7002. add some Polk towers and the 10" polk subwoofer and you are there,literally. Phil's bass will blow you away.
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I am totally loving the music. I would have bought the boxless edition. In fact I did after having put in an order for a box. The first order took (anyone remember the chaos in Jan :-) ?) The second order got upgraded so I now have two. Knowing what I know now I would definitely go thru the process all over again. I am truly grateful and appreciative of all the thought and work that went into creating E72. I would still like my number. A completely reasonable request. I hope the "PTB" set this right or at least give a explanation as to why they can't. The box I have opened, one corner of the box is slightly crushed. Do I even want to go there?
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Wow, who wrote that Gucci poem. "When the going gets strange Weir turns pro". (a 90s bumper sticker). UPS almost blew off delivery yesterday evening. The drivers went home for the long weekend. The UPS depot man got permission from his manager to deliver it to my work place."What can Brown do for you?" I showed my ID, signed and headed home. It would have stayed on the truck until Tuesday otherwise. Have read most of the book.Great history, well written. I love the steamer trunk. Where's the hashish?(jokes).The book notes said the band had wicked colds the first week in Europe. I was front row center the week before at the Academy of Music, last night of the run, with a wicked cold. Sorry if it was me. As I went a few nights on that run, the crazy mix of Dead Heads may have been the origin. "Rockin Pnemonia and the Boogie Woogi flu". Remember the new years eve shows with epic flu and cold outbreaks during run and starting into January? That said, I love the boxed set even w/o the numbered edition.
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In case you didn't read down far enough for that post, it was pointed out that you should squeeze the sleeves at the widest part and the discs will drop out, hopefully onto something that won't let them roll onto the floor! No need for tweezers or trying to grab them with your fingers, which might rip the sleeve. Cheers, laser
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There are now 29 sets on ebay. I know there is no way of stopping this but that makes me a little sick to my stomach. I was one of the lucky ones to get a set but I would be hard pressed too pay the prices they are asking. It's unfortunate those sets were not left for people that could reasonably pay the $450. Oh well I guess, as I said I don't see any way of stopping it.
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The limited issue reminds me about the FW '69 box, the fact that it sold out before I even had a chance to see it became available and how bummed out I was, and still am that it hasn't been rereleased in some form. I learned my lesson when this one became available, and even if I had missed the 7200 mark, would have been ecstatic to get a music only copy. If the FW '69 shows become available again in a non-limited box, I'll order it. Box or no box, I want the music, and not in a dowload format. I've barely scratched the surface of listening to this set. So far I've only checked out 4/7 and 4/8 Wembly. It's cool to hear the brief Mind Left Body Jam tease near the end of the 4/8 Dark Star just before they launch into Sugar Mag. The Caution is awesome. I've heard the soundboards from these shows, and they pale in comparison to the multi-track mix treatment, to my ears. I'm choosing to listen to them chronologically and 4/11 Newcastle is up next. Here's to hoping a music only edition of the FW '69 gets released.
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Laser I got a laugh out of your title sounds like something Zappa would've said
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The art on the CD case covers are sooooo cool. That was a nice addition. BE CAREFUL I have already managed to rip two cases. They are very delicate. I n the process of downloading and scanning the art. Man I can believe I have never seen all of this Mouse art. Also I cant believe I was only 1 month old while they were playing this tour. Gives me even more appreciation for Phil and Bob and Furthur. The music is positively the goods A++++. Everyone that got the music only option and not the case will be just as happy. The case, is what it is,but the music of the hook good. So far my fav is #8 disc 3 (Dark Star>Me and My Uncle>Dark Star>Wharf Rat> Sugar Magnolia. Thank you, thank you, thank you for releasing a full tour and keep 'em coming!!! Upside out or inside down False alarm, the only game in town
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"The process started with me four years ago when I started pitching it pretty hard. And in telling the record company that it was really the kind of thing that we needed a good 14 to 16 months to do and to do it properly and that’s a very tough thing to plan on, especially the way the record industry is now, it’s a tough thing to plan 12 to 14 to 16 months ahead. So no matter how much I suggested it was a great idea and a lot of people agreed with it, it’s just a very tough thing to plan those types of coordinations that a 72 CD box set … you know, I used the word the other day, “unprecedented,” and I really realized, you know what, this truly is an unprecedented box set. There’s nothing like it. I’ve looked and I’ve talked to a lot of people – there’s nothing even close to this kind of thing of this quality by any band of any genre really, this is unprecedented.... "...It comes down to – is the music good, is it a compelling story and do we have the recording quality to make it something that is worth this level of hype. Let’s face it, it’s an expensive product, so we want to make sure that it’s truly an exceptional representation of the Grateful Dead so that people are completely thrilled and satisfied with what they get. The last thing that we ever want to do is disappoint anyone. "I think anybody in any line of work, especially for public consumption, the last thing anybody wants to do is disappoint... Once it’s out there, it has your name on it. In my role, I certainly have a responsibility to make sure that the band’s legacy is represented well. So, I take that very seriously... "For [Rhino] to commit the resources, and I don’t just mean the financial resources, but the time — they have a team of a dozen people working round the clock on this thing and that’s in front of the engineers and people that I work with most closely. For them to have done this, it really shows that they had faith in it." --DL --At the end of the day, folks --and this is just my opinion-- the folks at Rhino may have made some very real mistakes, some very real miscalculations, but the intent was to deliver something that we would love and they would be proud of. They were not looking to "scam" anyone. Yes, they wanted to make money, too. No question. They're a business. But a business trying to offer something unique and special to a group of fans who are just as unique and special. There will always be room for improvement. In every thing we do. All of us. Rhino and the folks at GDP are proud of this box set. And I am thankful to own one. I am so glad they agreed to do this. I know it took Lemieux years to convince them of its worthiness. Thank you, David. From the bottom of my heart. And thank you Rhino for believing in it and making it a reality. Warts and all :) --Hal

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Finally finished the first show.....! (Alot going on since this arrived, haven't been able to listen 24/7) Sensational. Hot Goin' Down the Road, eh? I felt like I should encounter the first show first, but now the tour's the limit.....will next stop be Beat Club, Olympia, or Newcastle? Hope those of you still waiting get yours soon. And if the powers CAN retrieve who recipients 3001-7200 were, it'd be great if they printed up the baggage stickers for those.....if not, sorry, you guys ~ can't honestly say that wouldn't have disappointed me. May the exquisiteness of this trunk o' gold still leave you grateful, though.....how wonderful to be able to have this.
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I've listened to both Wembleys and Newcastle so far. But I've also done a bit of sampling on the other shows, listening to favorite tunes from the original Europe '72 release. I have to wonder why the band felt they needed the vocal overdubs back then. I've never heard them sing better. No one expects them to be Crosby, Stills & Nash, but that said, they sound wonderful on this tour. The 5/3 China Cat from Europe 72 is presented with Garcia's original vocal. He sounds great. In other tunes where the band harmonizes, they sound great as well. They should have left the performances alone, just on principle, IMO. But as a practical matter, they don't appear to be much of an improvement over the originals. Just a thought
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Thanks for the comments and compliments regarding the cover art (SpentthenightinUtah and others)! But - if you read the credits, you'll see that these covers were all done by Scott McDougall, the same artist that has done the Road Trips covers along with others. BTW - I've yet to receive my box, so I'm in the anxiously - awaiting club.
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Thanks Scott for all the amazing cover art! :)
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Taperpat---Scott has out done himself this time. The Road Trips pieces, fine as they are, pale next to this massive outpouring of 22 separate psychedelic masterpieces all exquisitely drawn in the wonderful cartoonish style we all associate with the classic '72 LP. I bet Scott giggles up there in his Green Lake aerie everytime he sees reference to the great Stanley Mouse-----our hats are off Mr. McDougall!!!!!!

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I've never heard so much unjustified whining and bitching about this box set. Regarding the numbering: They clearly said, only the first 3,000. Period. Get over it. I think it's glorious. A thing of beauty. A dream come true. For God sakes, just enjoy this marvel. And shut the F*ck up!!
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Take a valium with the hurling obscenities around, haberman. (Especially when you're misinformed; the first 3k were personalized, but everyone originally assumed they'd number all 7200.) No one has suggested the whole box is anything other than great. I don't disagree with anything Hal said, it IS an incredible accomplishment for GDP/Rhino of which I'm sure they're proud and I'm very grateful to have one of the boxes. Indeed, the fact that they made it all so well with so much thought (I LOVE the way the discs form a rainbowish look when they're all in the slots, for example, and the paper of the white book is nice and thick-very high quality) makes it that much crazier that they would forget something like the numbering of the last 4200! Maybe that's easy to say now though, the simple mistakes are simple in retrospect when they were working on this for so long. I do agree with others that it'd be nice if they could print said 4200 labels now after the fact. Hell, even if they just printed the order #s with the limited edition #'s online so you could look yours up; it's really just the anal compulsive need of wanting to know my own number more than anything else about the label for me! I gotsa to know... I can understand being bummed if you didn't have a chance to get the F. West '69 set. These are small numbers, 7200, 10,000. They could easily sell out more of these with the worldwide pop. of deadheads. That said, once you commit to making something limited edition, it makes it more special if you stick with it. Remember that Terrapin Station "limited' ages ago of Phil's birthday show, 3-15-90, that was supposedly going to fund the GD museum idea in SF they were on about not long after Garcia died? That was numbered, and cost more than a normal 3-disc multi track or dicks picks would be, but it didn't say of how many. Think they made 25,000-40,000 at first, but then just continued to produce more with successive numbers when the first run ran out. Sorry, but that's not "limited edition" if the phrase means anything. They're just continually rising numbered CDs. (It's a cool show, though, and they put it out uncut, also, so there are loooonng gaps between the tunes in first set while they decide what to play. We were outside Landover,MD that night, but with no tix and not a prayer of finding one for reasonable price on Phil's 50th birthday.) Bottom line, this was an awesome thing and more than worth it for $450, even in this day and age with downloadable this and that. Scott-the art is GREAT; sure hope you get one of the first 3K, you deserve it.
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someone on another forum, name of NTAP, just told me that there is a bunch of other goodies in a SECRET STASH PLACE in the box. Apparently you just have to look very carefully. He said he cut his way into it with a craft knife, and only found afterwards that that was not necessary. Still waiting for mine. The devil makes work for idle hands.
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Seriously? And no one here has spotted it yet? Now I'm really curious...
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I found a easy way to remove the discs without damage,I tore two before this. If you know what a painters "church key " is ,well its a bottle opener on one end and a a paint can opener on the other. Here's the way it works....lay the sleeve unfolded on a flat surface. Then just slide the hook end [of the paint can opener] in to the sleeve so the tip drops into the CD hole and gently pull the CD out. IT works slick. You can get the key at any paint store usually free. Just be sure to have the label side up on the CD. It might sound complex but it really is a snap.....I did not tear another one after using this method. I just installed a new Mirage subwoofer in my system the day before my box arrived and wow! Phil sounds just freakin' great.
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There are hundreds of hidden goodies in the Box Set, and if you listen closely, you'll hear all of them....
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I may be all alone here but I want to say personally to the Dead.net and Rhino that I thank them for getting this done but everything in the mix is way to loud, really needs to be redone.
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That's the problem you can't give it any volume the mix is loud even when the music not.
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If it were mixed like this at the shows we would all be deaf.Sorry but it true.
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Its not necessary to use any tools, as PeteMoss suggets, and its actually a bad idea to insert anything metal above a disc, on the label side. That's because the music code is read from the bottom of the coating on the top. The bottom, non-label side of the disc is clear plastic, so that the indentations stamped into the top of the disc can be read via the reflective coating on the very top, which then has the writing for the label printed on it. The current best practice seems to be to just squeeze the cd covers at the disc's widest part and they just drop out easily. Cheers, laser
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I have 3 of the shows now on my ipod to listen to when I'm not home. I must say I have a renewed appreciation for the individual talents of each band member (not that I ever doubted their musicianship). The music flows and interlocks; it's quite amazing...
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First I have not even had a chance to listen to the cd's. I am a teacher and just went back to work. Three weeks earlier would have been great. I want to listen to the shows uninterupted. I am thrilled to hear the quality is great from the majority of people and sure I will have no problem. I will load the cd's on my computer, so I will not be pulling them in and out of the package a hundred times. I would have payed the $450 for the music only....as a matter of fact I originally did. Because many people cancelled their orders I got a code to order the box. I received two codes for the trunk. So I know a lot of people cancelled. I let the second code expire so someone else would get it. I love the trunk. I did as someone said and removed the books because the weight is a little much. Books are great.....Would have payed maybe $30 for both, if I saw them in the store. Have not read through them. Sticker.....sorry I dont care too much about stickers. I wish they were a little more upfront about what was coming in the trunk. They made it sound like there would be lots of litte surprises and there were not. Sure still worth it, as I said, I would have purchased the music only version. Also i was under the impression the boxes would all be numbered. When you do not get what you purchased you end up being upset. I thought there was going to be just a bit more. I am upset in that one small way. Overall I am thrilled. If they do something like this again, I am in again. The "SURPRISES" were just lacking
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I have only listened to the first 2 shows so i can't say..but has anyone noticed a difference in sound depending on the show (i.e. nicer venue, etc). What I mean is the mixers said you can definitely hear a difference if the hall had better acoustics. I'm sure the Lyceum sounded better than the wind and rain of Bickershaw.
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Why should the hall make a difference? These are 16-track recordings of the instruments, they're not audience recordings. Bickhershaw might sound different because it was a festival, and the Dead may not have had the ability to use all their own equipment.
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Have yet to hear anything. Hoping it's due to right coast shipping time. :)
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I love going through the tour and taking a listen to one particular song and the evolution/changes/differences that occur over the tour with the song. Try it, it's really cool way to hear all the evolutions of a song within such a short time. This is probably my favorite guitar that Jerry ever played, too. It really showcases his style and incredible talent. God I miss him.
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Congrats to zepthompson for finishing and providing the RIP total. I estimated it would be 48GB, based on the # of discs, but it was really close - most of the 48GB was used up! Wish they made a 48GB microSD chip, but folks will have to settle for one 32 and one 16, two 32s or one 64 if you can find one (and look for Class 10 - faster xfer speeds). BTW, the Furthur summer tour will fit on one 16GB microSD chip in FLAC format, if you need to fill up the other half of a second 32. Cheers, laser
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I think the Mega Boxset came off really fine. Music is great, Carrying Case is swell, Books are great, shipping was great except for they didn't acknowledge my address change and it was shipped out UPS and very quickly., arriving in August. The only black mark are the cheap and rip prone CD covers. I know Dead.Net and Rhino will never use these cheap covers again. It is like buying an expensive car and having a seat that rips the first time you sit down. It causes people to use church keys, alternate opening techniques and diminishes the value of an expensive item which is like a collectors item. Please do us devoted fans a favor and keep releasing good stuff but change the CD sleeves for all the future releases. The Road Trips series also rips easy but not as bad because it is made out of more durable cardboard.
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I was trying to hold off but enough is enough. There is nothing wrong with these sleeves. They have been used by the Dead and others before. Jewell cases are junk and ugly. Digipacs are fine but would increase the size to probably an unacceptable amout. I may be the most vocal about this but I am not alone. It isn't brain surgery and although you have to use a little more caution than with jewell cases they are so much nicer
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ever try and pick up a half dozen or so jewel cases to have them slip right of your hands? or is that just me.... :D tho after reading all the post earlier, I went out and bought a CD wallet that hold 96 CDs would have been perfect if the liner notes were not printed on the cases... (73 Discs + 22 Info cards)
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I'm on the 3rd. show now ( I jumped around a bit at first) and I've quickly come to realize that I'm going to being picking up on different moments that stand out in this set possibly for years to come. There's just so much to take in at once with 22 shows and that's one of the great things about such an extensive set!
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Irske døde - Still waiting in Oregon too - I am hoping devoutly that it's just a slow and methodical roll out. I gave away my copies of "Rhein" and "hundred year hall" to friends - might have been a mistake (though I know they were appreciated). I am happy for those here who did get the set. Just wish I was one of 'em.
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I will give you a million dollars to remix an equalize this all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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fourwindsblow said: If it were mixed like this at the shows we would all be deaf. ..sorry??? What's that you said???? :-Say again!
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First of all are the personalized and music only being shipped at the same time and what are these plastic sleeves? The cds don't come in digipacks for 450.00 dollars!! Can someone clarify ?
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would hold up well to very much usage, I don't care how careful you are. I have a couple that came tears. I can see why. Some in my set have weak points, that are very susceptible to tearing. Other points that will be put under stress every time you have to squeeze and shake are held together by thin strips of light weight cardboard and glue. Not a design for durability or longevity. I've been known to occasionally have a beer or two while listening to music. Light weight cardboard and beer, bad combo! After I get all this on the computie the discs will go back in their cases and not come out again until I happen to acquire a HDCD player. If and when that happens the Mother CDs will find another home and not be getting pulled out there original sleeves on any regular basis.
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I'm wondering how many people are tearing their boxes apart trying to find the secret compartment you mentioned?
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Did fourwindsblow actually complain that the mix was too loud? I'm not a sound mixer, so feel free to elaborate, but what constitutes "too loud?" Unless you're hearing distortion, which I am not, I'm not sure I understand the complaint. The tracks seem to be mixed in proportion to one another. Sure, there are folks here who might have mixed these tracks differently depending on taste (it is a taste/opinion thing at the end of the day), but too loud? All I can say is that I hope the folks at Rhino/GD read and take many of the complaints seriously, but I also hope they read and take in all the positive, extremely appreciative comments that are being posted alongside some of the more negative ones. And, like some others have already mentioned several times over, getting the CDs out of the sleeves doesn't require special tools or superhuman skills. Gently squeeze the sides and the CDs slide out with ease. There should be no reason to rip your sleeves. The problem here is not with the manufacturing, but with the recipients not knowing how to work the sleeves. Like using a hammer to open up a child-proof bottle of aspirin because you didn't take the time to figure out its design. Maybe next time Rhino will have to send out an instruction booklet :)
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Speaking of, Dusseldorf disc 3 has no info other than Track 01, 02 etc. Anybody else? Or did I just get a freak.
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I remember when I discovered that my Steve Vai Secret Jewel Box actually did in fact have a secret compartment, it contained a bonus CD. I didn't discover it until years later. I'd be curious to read the guys post on the other forum.
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NTAP = ????????
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I'm not getting it... There is only one place in the box the could have a secret compartment, and I'm not seeing a way to get into it without destroying the box. Can you provide a link to the forum where this was brought up? What is NTAP?

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I'll repeat. It was clearly stated that only the first 3,000 cd's would be numbered. It was in plain black and white. Not "everyone originally assumed they'd number all 7200." Please show me where it stated anywhere on dead.net that all 7200 copies would be numbered. BTW, I didn't "hurl obscenites" I 'hurled' one obscenity which I inserted with an asterisk to keep your tender eyes protected. But please, by all means, continue your whining.
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I'm with Hal M with this "the mix is too loud business." I'm no sound expert and I'm certainly not deaf. But for the first time I can actually clearly hear each individual band member. And I'm not even hooked up the HDCD. Also, I think it stands to reason that different shows will sound slight different given where they were recorded. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but It isn't just the instruments that are recorded, but the sounds of the hall as well. Some of these venues are acoustical marvels. Some aren't. If think Norman talks about this in one of his interviews. All the shows I've heard sound great, though.
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  • GreenBeing
    2 years 10 months ago
    Also Late To The Party

    I also wish to know if another printing of the All-Music edition is contemplated, or even flac downloads. I am with child to hear this music!

  • d3adf1sh
    3 years 2 months ago
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    RE:drdogg - You can actually get every one of the concerts off amazon as an MP3 downloads but who wants MP3's YUCK! Please powers that be, can we get a repress? or at the least a Hi-Res DL? hard to pay the 5 grand people are asking for these Euro72 boxes online. especially with all the talk of defective discs.
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    Achilles Thomas
    3 years 6 months ago
    Late to the party - again
    hi, that is true - rerelease them.