• October 15, 2007
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    October 15 - October 21, 2007
    We’re going to be doing some jumping around the calendar this week, to play you some music we didn’t get a chance to play for you the past few weeks.

    First, as we’re always interested in playing unique sequences and segues, we’ll pop into 1980 for a quick stop on 10/2/80 at the Warfield in San Francisco. From this very good show is the interesting third set opening sequence of Drums>Comes A Time>Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance.

    Next up, we’ll jump ahead 14 years, to 1994, specifically the very good Fall Tour. From 10/1/94 in Boston, we have the second set opener, Scarlet Begonias>Fire On The Mountain, and from a few nights later on 10/5/94 in Philadelphia, the very unique second set opening combination of Midnight Hour-Cumberland Blues.

    From the Fall Tour of 1976, specifically 9/30/76 in Columbus, OH, we have the second set opening Lazy Lightning>Supplication.

    Jumping back a bit to 1972, here are two songs from the 4/7/72 show at Wembley Empire Pool (subsequently Wembley Arena) in London, Chinatown Shuffle and a rocking Me and My Uncle. Bobby wasn’t kidding when he said about these two Wembley shows in 1972, “man, we played like demons at those shows.”

    Check in next week when we’ll be playing some great music from your favourite band. As always, we welcome and encourage your questions and comments.

    David Lemieux
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We’re going to be doing some jumping around the calendar this week, to play you some music we didn’t get a chance to play for you the past few weeks.

First, as we’re always interested in playing unique sequences and segues, we’ll pop into 1980 for a quick stop on 10/2/80 at the Warfield in San Francisco. From this very good show is the interesting third set opening sequence of Drums>Comes A Time>Lost Sailor>Saint of Circumstance.

Next up, we’ll jump ahead 14 years, to 1994, specifically the very good Fall Tour. From 10/1/94 in Boston, we have the second set opener, Scarlet Begonias>Fire On The Mountain, and from a few nights later on 10/5/94 in Philadelphia, the very unique second set opening combination of Midnight Hour-Cumberland Blues.

From the Fall Tour of 1976, specifically 9/30/76 in Columbus, OH, we have the second set opening Lazy Lightning>Supplication.

Jumping back a bit to 1972, here are two songs from the 4/7/72 show at Wembley Empire Pool (subsequently Wembley Arena) in London, Chinatown Shuffle and a rocking Me and My Uncle. Bobby wasn’t kidding when he said about these two Wembley shows in 1972, “man, we played like demons at those shows.”

Check in next week when we’ll be playing some great music from your favourite band. As always, we welcome and encourage your questions and comments.

David Lemieux
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Hi David Thanks for the cool selections this week. Just to let you know, you already posted China Shuffle and Me And My Uncle from Wembley on Sep 3-9. AK
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Me & My Uncle was played after Chinatown Shuffle.Note to self: Look before you leap. Deadbase is not infallible.
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Wow No Whiners yetMight end up being a good monday! _________ NTFDAWY
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Hi David, keep on streaming. What about my request from June: The Forum, Copenhagen, October 1981. One of the Swedish guys wrote to me, he was there too. Do we still have a chance to hear thar second set in the best possible way? Ole
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yeah boring isn't it! Used to be 300 or 400 on line by this time, now just 100
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tj crowley ntfdawy...would not whining about not having whiners be whining? cozmic...yeah, i too have lost interest in looking forward to the download day...just keep listenning to waht had been already downloaded. what is, is and what will be, will be
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Hey TJ..good that you're here when the dwindling handful of notwhiners finally have this space to themselves they'll probably start whining about not having any whiners left to whine about (or not)
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Hey David -------> Thanks for all the continued tasty treats from the vault. Do you think you could pull some selections from Madison Square Garden on 9/18/87 ---- most specifically the Morning Dew. Quite possibly the best Dew ever, it would be great to hear the vault version.
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When this thing got started there were many fans here, now just a trickel. No complaints from me, always live the music. I do hope to hear of a new release this year from the vault. Seems like everyone has split?Keep jamming. Coconut Phil.
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I guess I'm 1 of the whiners whing about there not being any whiners whining. That being said, cool selections. I love the 80's and 90's!!!!!!
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Boy, I did not remember hearing Brent on 10-1-94, but his ghost is unmistakably audible on this official Vault copy! Damn, yo.
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thanks for the HEADY year jumping selection this week!10/01/94 is in my humble opinion THE LAST GREAT (all around) GRATEFUL DEAD SHOW! Every note of this boston garden show is worth hearing...some of the most haunting and soulful garcia you'll ever hear!! there are several key points to this show...from the line in "so many roads" being "so many roads to HEAL my soul...." instead of the normal lyrics. The haunting "Tom Thumbs" solo.....and this solid "scarlet>Fire".... why wasn't this show a dick's picks? or official release? I already have a pristine copy but this is one of these shows that we ALL need to have in HDCD!!!!!! or perhaps a DVD with 5.1 DTS??? thanks again p.s. its a GOOD thing that most people have split from posting here....I noticed no more/if not less bitching and moaning than there was during the whole stream switch ordeal....it wasn't an ordeal for me except having to wade hip deep in all the negativity!! GOOD TO SEE WERE BACK TO NORMAL around here!!! thanks again....quality nuggets!
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tj crowley '...GOOD TO SEE WERE BACK TO NORMAL around here!!!' normal?! dead heads? normal? where? not here? never! normal, HA!
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Hey David, just wanted to let you know that this is not the Boston 10/1/94 Scarlet/Fire, though that is a favorite of mine and I'd be glad to hear it, perhaps along with the So Many Roads from that show as I'd love to here the version you have in the vault. That being said this Scarlet/Fire is terrific, I'm guessing 84. I presume there was a mix up somewhere. Anyways as this is my first time commenting I'd like to make one small request which is a Jackstraw from 9/9/87, it's just such a smokin' version and I've only ever heard a not so great audience copy. Anyways, thanks for your selections and Ford at Olimpico sends his regards.
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Call me a whinin' boy, ifn's you will, BUT, David: there are no many roads on 10/18/07, and if there will be, then what's all this balderdash about bashing winos? Can't peace-niks just be given a right to passage? So, who's to say that the mineral rights to California's Gold have been offered up to televison skies? Keep on ignoring me, (& "them") it's just GREAT!
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waaaaaaaah! waaaaaaaah! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! ok, now that i'm done, i absolutely LOVE the drums sequence this week. friggin' a! however, i'm not so pleased by the 'chinatown' / 'uncle' repetition from a month ago. is lemieux falling asleep at the job? actually, since i didn't bother to check, are these the same versions from september? don't want to waste any time without downloading.
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as luck and coincidence would have it, i got a new computer- one equipped with excellent speakers and all kinds of speed. i am enjoying my taper's section once again!! thanks for the great music, david! i am happy to hear you- caroline
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'lost sailor' is definitely not one of my favorite tunes, but i just noticed the lyric, "there's a price for being free." think that applies to the taper's section? i'll go hide now ...
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got better things to do than whine, shoot, got better things to do than stream, too! l8tr "If God had wanted me otherwise, He would have created me otherwise." - --Johann von Goethe--
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Guess I am missing something, but that certainly sounds like a 94 Scarlet to me and it RIPS.I saw all of spring tour and all the west coast run that year but have always regretted missing one last run at Boston Garden before they tore that building down.
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its good to see some of the later years back on the taper's section....i personally like 93-94....just the way these years sound (sound wise) is way cool.....very clean, clear, pristine notes from jerry.....Weir has that stinging tone.....the drums have all those little extra touches like wood blocks and cowbell...phil is HUGE....even vince sounds great! this "Scarlet>Fire" is most certainly from 10/01/94....not sure where some heard brent? PLEASE....more 93-94!!!!!! if 10/01/94 was released officially....i'd buy more than one copy!!!! :)
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Indeed, Bobby wasn't kidding when he said about the Whitechapel '88 London shows ('72 Wembley that is) "man, we played like demons at those shows"... and hey bwah, I hear they played like the devil himself at Magoo's Pizza Parlor... so please, let loose with some rippers from the long lost mid-'65 Warlocks pizza tapes. wouldn't that be a topper? David, in the spirit of All Hallow's eve, could you share a treat - perhaps one sweet taste from the vault, series 6, of The Carousel Ballroom - March 17, 1968 ? & thanks for keeping the vault open - we need you there man!
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the reason why this weeks TS is full of glitches is that DL is very preoccupied putting the final touches to a huge fantastic best ever box set in time for Christmas!!! well maybe...
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I hope something is being put together before Christmas or even before Halloween. Hopefully they'll step up their game.
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considering every show that has been released......that's 3 vaults,13 download series, 37 dicks picks, countless official releases(well over 20),the big box sets, dvds...ect.....i mean thats a LOT of shows folks..... be patient.....because there is only so much more that they CAN release.....not EVERY show is release worthy....and they have their years of future releases to consider...not every show was recorded.....tapes ARE missing from the vault (april78!!)......everyone just has to take a breath....the vault is not as bottomless and endless as even i once thought it was :( its just a fact of life...nothing lasts forever :( TAKE A STEP BACK......maybe we are seeing a slowed rate of releases because, well in reality, maybe there arn't too many more shows they are/want to release? <<<< no complaints here...well since i own all of the said above releases....and with david gans and his wonderful radio show.....and with the tapers section....i'm sitting fat and happy...the butterbean is content! (not that the butterbean dosen't want a watkins glen 73 or winterland 73 box set!!!...not to mention the creme' of the later years 89-94/5ish....) But that being said....i can name a show from 85 that if released would quiet everyone REAL FAST and for A LONG TIME...hint hint (04/27/85 FROST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! frost).... but untill that time.... hug your family, kiss your dog, walk your cat.....and just be HAPPY!!!!!!! isnt that what its al about?
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Nothing on the home page - extraordinary! But from the old country, heaps of love and buckets of gratefulitude to Bobby, for all he has given us, and for carrying the flame with such verve. Gimme that old time religion! Rock it, Bobby Jeremy & Penny
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Dave, I was there. My mate CJ taped the show. They didn't play Me & My Uncle. It would be nice to know where this version hails from though; indeed, it would be nice if you would release ALL of Europe '72 as the shows I got to deconstructed and then reconstructed me. And boy did we get through some fine, fine LSD :-) JP
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Butterbean I agree we all could use more cowbell!
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rommel55was anyone talkin' about releasing the WG show? maybe with rehearsals? WoW!!!
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Let it be known, 10/1/94 is an awesome show with a mind-blowing Scarlet Fire. But seriously folks, the one posted up there is NOT it. I kid you not. (This is serious business) Go to whatever other sundry or internet gd show sources you have and check it. There are two obvious differences. A: -10/1/94's keyboardist plays a (synth) piano and does a rare 'alternate' scarlet opening riff -The one up there's keyboardist plays a synth organ, and does the standard scarlet riff I agree with the previous poster, one of my fav S>F's is 10/30/84, also the Fire from 7/15/85, and Brent's synth organ there sounds exactly like the one above. Don't know what date it is, but the sound quality is excellent, and the playing is grate. B: -Jerry sounds young on the above -Jerry sounds much older on the actual 10/1/94. I'm not kidding, folks, go check it out (but download both of them if you can). You will most definitely not be disappointed by the real 10/01/94. There are 2 other unusual things today. 1st, the chinatown shuffle was posted before, and 2nd, look at the bottom line: great music from your favourite band. Dave's gone British on us! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = God is good.
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Here's what the problem was: If you click "Quicktime", you get the 84/85 S>F. If you click "Windows Media Player" you get the real deal, 10/1/94.
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....... with the surprise of an early '80's scarlet-fire (my guess is 83). With a few exceptions (i.e. DP 18, Cornell 77), these versions have always been my favorites. I just find those early '80 jams into Fire uniquely exploratory and they tend to keep my interest. I have to try Windows Media Player and listen to the 94 version, but I probably won't enjoy it as much. Thanks for the bonus track David!!!!
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Nice stuff. I always loved Chinatown shuffle, wish they played post pigpen.
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Yeah, just to add on to my original comment and the others that have followed in its wake. Thank's Zaorish for figuring out what the problem was as I've been listening through quicktime. It did seem strange that there was some disagreement over the lineage as the quicktime version is clearly Brent. Anyways a little bit of research has revealed that the quicktime Scarlet/FIre is from a 10/21/83 show at the Centurm so congratulations to those who guessed the year correctly. Moreover, this version is not only a terrific but part of a strong show in itself, which also contains a serious version of Big Railroad Blues, not a tune paticularly known for it smokin qualities. Also for those of you have been listening to the quicktime 83 version I urge you checkout the Boston 94 as its really some of the best later Dead you'll hear. I can't help but feel like this was a test?
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Ohmydearest, thanks for the note on the actual show date of that S>F, I will go and try to find a copy. (As a geek I really like those Dead trivia games, try to guess the show, etc) I want to add that I usually get Dead recommendations from the archive.org forum trolls, so I had been under the impression that 1994 was a ugly, festering, black hole. I just listened to the entire 10-01-04 S>F and...wow. The playing is right on par(in my opinion) with something like 5-25-77. Especially, check out the end of the 10/01/94 Fire..I have NEVER before heard Jerry sing this song so passionately! (closest is maybe 7-07-78) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = God is good.
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i have to whole heartedly disagree with the archive.org trolls......sure 1994 has its warts, but like you said...it has its hidden quirks and gems of performances. Garcia comes over the top, sometimes vocally, to make up for sometimes sloppy playing. 94 was the year that it became glaringly clear that he was struggling with his addictions. Such a nasty addiction that it affected his playing. It was always sad to see him struggle with what would eventually overtake him. But, that being said, 94 has some of the best and soulful garcia vocals i've ever heard. sometimes, he would also compensate by unleashing new and fresh interpretations of riffs he had played the same ways for years. Sometimes it worked beautifully, and sometimes it sounded terrible. Thus began the game of guessing if it would be a great show, or a lackluster one. If your looking for start to finish exactly perfect performances, then 1994 isn't the year. Compared to say 1973, 1994 can't be compared. The band as a whole would also "overcompensate" for the struggles that jer was facing. Sometimes this overcompensation was amazing. More lesh, a crazier...razor sharp weir, the DRUMS......the DRUMS were sometimes my favorite part of 94 dead. All the extra sweet drum fills ( the extra wood blocks, cowbell, and just big drum sound.) All that being said there are some AMAZING over the top performances from 94 and 95. You just have to know where to look. It takes combing through many many shows from 94 and 95 to find the diamonds in the ruff. It might just be one or two songs from one show. or it might be that 10/01/94 boston show... if you liked the vocals on that "scarlet>fire".....then you will LOVE the" He's Gone" from 12/09/94 (SBD stream over at archive.org)...the whole second set sequence is awesome! way over the top vocally and musically. one of the most amazing "drums" sequences i've ever heard too. don't ever let others make up your mind for you....you have to listen for yourself, then be the judge!
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Thanks David! This is one of my favorite selections. There's a show that was on my birthday in 1994! Love the Midnight Hour! But, Mickey and the Drums are SMOKIN' at the Warfield! In fact it's a great start to a third set. Lost Sailor is one of my all time favorite songs written in Mill Valley (which I love) and in the year I was born. Trip out! Love and Light ;-)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BOBBY!! Blessings to all Libra people near and far. This selection is from Bob Weir's birthday week ! Thanks again to David!
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I definitely get the same version (a 1994 Scarlet> Fire) whether I choose the quicktime or windows media stream. How mysterious. Perhaps it's been "fixed".
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Zaorish your very welcome. As other comments have stated the entire Boston show from 10/01/04 is special. The playings top notch and energized. The whole shows a great listen. Also the show before this one in Boston, 9/29/94 is also worth checking out. Regarding 10/01/04 and your comments about Jerry's passionate singing at the end of Fire, make sure you don't miss the So Many Roads and Stella Blue from this show which as you will hear demonstrate that Jerry's passionate singing was not limited to Fire alone. Theres a good board on archive you can check out. To me it's some of the best vocal work Garcia ever did. I'm actually of the opinion that while Jerry was super inconsistent in 94-95, vocally there are moments where he let himself go unlike any other period of Dead.
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beenwaytoolongatsea c'mon okay, this is crazy, i mean this a great '83 scarlett fire, awesome, brent sounds fantastic, phil sounds absolutley phenomenal and jerry great, what more could a little pig like me ask for, well that '94 scarlett fire sounds cool, and i have a mac, and can't use windows media player, okay here is me crying, i'm a little sissy, i know, and i'm not complaining 'cuz this '83 scarlet fire is f--in' AWESOME right now brent and jerry weaving, with phil below and bobby kind of pulling them along, drummers keeping rhythm alive, great, '83 is my nuumber one year, far and away, but ...... wouldn't mind some way to catch up with that '94 scarlett fire that's written up there that apparently you can only get with windows media player and you can't get that with a mac ....... i may invoke the equal protection clause
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hey beenwaytoolongatsea.... the 10/01/94 scarlet>fire is up on archive.org.....you can stream it and you dont need WMP!!! in fact the whole show is up there streaming! check it out...and SMILE!!!!!
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beenwaytoolongatsea righteous will do post this SICK '83 s/f i may listen to this one again, louder aahhh am looking forward to that '94 thanks again bean
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just hit up the "so many roads" from 10/01/94 over at arcive.org....literally 2 verses in and i was in tears with goosebumps if this isn't the most poignant, heartfelt, sincere, single piece of grateful dead music then i don't know what is? 30 years is summed up in one song. My whole life experience is summed up in one song. Maybe it was the dream I had last night, which i refuse to express for personal reasons, but man the song really hits home. Great song...perhaps the greatest ever written....but what's a song if not for the singer? this show needs to be heard and digested by everyone!
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Ive been to over 300 shows, and I miss Jerry, I met him on sevaral occassions, The last time in Oregon at the country fair, I wont speak of the partys backstage at winterland, life was different then, but Im the same Ol Red...
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On October 14th, 2007 Jeff Drake said:Just a word or two, gentle readers, about what it means to me to be a Deadhead. It's ALWAYS been about adversity. Adversity is being stranded in some snowy parking lot in Indiana or somewhere without a ticket & you've just been turned on to the best acid you've ever had & the cops are watching you but there's nowhere to go.... Adversity is NOT the fact that I can't download my free Dead so I can listen to it while I work out at the gym on Monday morning. Adversity is The Bear sitting among piles of cables, hopelessly stoned, while 3000 people scream for the band to PLAY, MAN, and the Angels are getting pissed and looking for somebody to STOMP, MAN. Being a Deadhead, to me, is about trying to find that thread of peace and love in a world of haters, and in so doing, becoming an outcast and a misfit in Society. That's dealing with adversity, friends, on a daily basis, trying desperately to make some sense out of a world gone mad. Free Mp3s would be great but that's not how the world is. Never was, except for a short time there; lets move on. Come listen to my free radio station www.stonemountainradio.com It'll be fun! Peace, Jeff
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Two October shows, 10/18-19/80, performed at the wonderful Saenger Theatre can only be found in audience format: do these exist in the Vault? Can you check it out Dave and let us know? Much obliged for the great tunes you provide here and on Sirius.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAYCHUCK BERRY 81 AND STILL ROCKIN....AND LOVIN THE UNDERAGE LADIES.....
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Dave, Thanks for the LL & S from Columbus. Before I got on the bus (didn't know anything about the Dead besides Truckin' and Casey) a DJ named "TR" used to play Lazy Lightning from the Kingfish album regularly on Cleveland's old M105 radio. I loved it and it wasn't until the Dead played this at my first show that I realized it was Bobby. Thanks for the great stuff!
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  • wilfredtjones
    9 years 8 months ago
    what's this doing here?
    I mean in the Forums? (under Administration: Technical Problems) I guess it might serve as a nice sidetrack to go off on. However, Taper's Section is its real home...
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    GratefulGigi
    14 years 11 months ago
    Cumberland blues
    always gets me going in the morn :)
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    stuman
    14 years 11 months ago
    ***** WOW ANOTHER GRATEFUL MORNING ****
    totolly blown away ...never heard chinatown shuffle , that was really cool ,, I remember the Philly show i was there for that one ,,would love to hear more of that one ..it`s all wonderfull thanks Dave ...and thanks to all the tapers out there...really brings back good memories...