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    My cousin is renovating the farm. Can't be sold except to the N.S.R.
    G-pa's Rexall store was right on the river in Van Buren. (pop. 723)
    Bob the black lab sat in a rocker on the porch "counting cars".
    The side of the family that had bootleggers. I'm so proud!
    Cheers

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    The Current River??!!

    Ha,1stShow, I canoed the Current and the Buffalo several times ca. early '70s with my scout troop out of the Chicago suburbs. What gorgeous water. Like you say, so incredibly clear. For the record, you could see a whole lot of beer cans on the bottom back then! It's a strong memory. Like good scouts we were wondering if any them were full! And then all the cool caves, including one you could canoe into.
    A blue Ford Country Squire wagon was the family vehicle in the late 60s into early 70s. Some raucous cross country trips with the siblings in the back of that beast.. No memory of the radio though.

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    Vacations Memories

    The smell of a freshly lit Parliament cigarette is good.
    Not so much after the parents exhaled that first puff.
    AM radio only in our cars then, and it was never on.
    Same trip every year. Always on or near July 4. Virtually all fireworks were legal then, even M-80s. St. Louis to the Ozarks, then to Van Buren, MO where the other G-pa lived. Big Spring State Park was cool. And floating on the Current River (now part of the Mark Twain Nat'l. Riverway), very clear water and you could see to the bottom. Now all you can see is beer cans down there.
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    Jim and those family road trips

    I was around for the poorer part of family life and never went on vacations.

    My younger brother and sister went every year. (at some point mom said they were going away every year no matter what!,,,, I was 16 and working so I didn't go.

    Years later my sister was singing along to some of the Polish Prince (Bobby Vinton), and I was like how you know this shit. Turned out the old man made a 6 or so 8 track tapes with a recorder I bought him. On these road trips they would listen to those tapes over and over and over. Sorry NO FM radio!!!

  • JimInMD
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    Don't Make Me Come Back There..

    Reminds me of childhood vacations

    The rents and four kids in an old station wagon on a cross country trip...

    We never made it out of the neighborhood before somebody would fart, then immediately got punched in the arm.. Mayhem would always ensue and with either end with a parent reaching his/her arm to be back seat and smacking the crap out of someone or god forbid pull over. .... and that's how it would usually begin....

    Let's not even get into the tunes... FM radio at it's finest.

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    Hey you kids

    Don’t make me come down there!

    Once while home with pops before he went into assisted living…usually after I’d get him his dinner/meds etc, and he’d go to bed early. That was my time to make a fire in the basement family room, put on some dead, spark up, and finally be able let it all go and relax.
    Well one day just as I’m getting ready to fire up, I hear this huge crash and then hear all this yelling and banging etc. Turns out he got up for some reason and the rug slipped out off the hardwood floor and he fell and split the top of his head open. Needless to say we called 911, which sucked, but would have been a whole lot worse if I’d just fired up and had tunes playing lol.
    Besides making him wait in ER all night, he just needed a few stitches and he was fine. The upshot was that it lead him to decide to go to assisted living. He Being a safety consultant, I’d been trying to work the whole “it’s not safe being alone anymore” and “what if I hadn’t been here” angle on him. This unfortunate incident finally, literally, knocked some sense into him ; )

  • JimInMD
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    Hey You Kids

    I spent the last week and a half with my parents.. at one point I had to pull out a Garcia quote from, I think, Harpur College, 1970..

    "Now, now kids, don't fight." It worked perfectly until one of them asked for their allowance.

    Once they turn out lights and everybody leaves.. it's so much easier to fire up a fattie. Just saying.

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    Hey you kids

    The lights are supposed to be out in this room.

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    It's a good thing there is a new thread to comment on. I was not going to let that disrespect of the Second Set of Augusta slide. Tragedy narrowly averted.

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    Senator..

    I'm rarely critical, but I believe you omitted the second freaking set.

    edit: I love the first set too.

    As you were......

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Dave says is the 2023 sub's video that there are two 50th ann. releases for 2023, and a box that has a show in it that a friend says "the whole world needs to hear".

If WotF 50th only has one live disc included 2/19/73 is hot.

another less serious but directly relevant health rec. --- get your hearing checked!! several years ago it became obvious that I wasn't hearing high pitched signal tones from electronic equipment. and my girl friend would ask if I could hear the birds and sadly I couldn't hear the birds that were tweeting all around us. a friend's daughter was an audiologist and when I finally was tested there was a precipitous loss in the middle of the high range, at its worse it reached "serious hearing loss". The loss profile was like a freaking dagger blade in the heart of the high end. No clear causality, maybe somewhat genetic? It was expensive to get fitted, but well worth it to go a solid reputable clinic. Not like having a perfect set of "original ears", but without question one of the best quality of life "gifts" ever having my hearing restored. Not only had I been missing the birds, but also a whole lot of the fine detail in music, with music of course being a "pretty big" part of my life. Last couple weeks have gone back to the "beginning" for repeated listens - DP 1 Tampa 12/19/73 - what a beauty.

Years ago a colleague would post notices in the office for when we came out of the field that had "Free Beer" in big print across the top when there was something important she wanted to bring to our attention.

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One of the bands I was in used to argue we should call ourselves Free Beer, or Free Cocaine (hey, it was 1980 lol).
The reasoning was, they’d put the name out front on one of those light up signs by the road so when folks drove by they’d see “Tonight Free Beer” lol. The worry was what would happen when they came in looking for gratuitous beverages and there weren’t any!
We ended going with Not Here. “Howdy folks, we’re not here” great name, so so band…

Yikes: glad I didn’t watch the Sabres game last night. Kiniggits strong outta the gate this year burning up the league!

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Thanks FourWinds, maybe I should subject myself to Dave's videos more often...

Okay, two 50th releases -- is that WotF and Bear's Choice? Ace is coming out in '23 but that's a '72 LP.

Dave never sez anything definitive except "look at the eagle"! Same with the box. It has "a show everyone has to hear." The same tantalizing non-information. Oh yeah, now I remember, THAT'S why I no longer listen to Dave-on-the-rocks.

I guess the question remains: is the box gonna be '73? With two 50th projects, would that make sense?

Questions, questions. And the only answer I have ... is related to going commando for the holidaze. As you were!

Hey, what happened to that guy who can't stand TMI??

Edit: P.S. The "Free Beer" band name sure makes the rounds. What kind of audience would you draw? A bunch of crazed middle-aged (hah! my middle age is way in the rearview mirror) suds-sucking cretins? Works for me, what time's the show?

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Much respect. I got lucky and Viet Nam ended right after I got a lottery number right out of high school when there was no college deferment anymore. Our class lost at least two guys I knew of. Does it count if you're kicked out like Jerry and my cousin (pot bust)? They still served, right?

That Drumz>Space on 44 is great Vguy. And I don't usually care for those much. Just the kind of sounds that would fuel the buzz without any screeching. Very interesting one. Disc two is the bomb!

I think Dave will do two boxes and an anniversary release, or I hope so at least. And maybe one in the $100 range would be nice too. And LPs that aren't $500 for the set? Again just hoping.
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Oro - Sounds like your band would have been a fun bunch to see, free beer (or coke) or not!

Still waiting on DaP 44, which is par for the course. My last one, so kind of fitting.

Jack Eichel - Man on a mission!!!

Bruce Hornsby tonight. He is solo, no band, so it will be the jazzier “Bruce Jarrett”, I suspect, but the guy plays the piano so great, I’m sure I’ll enjoy it immensely. I’d love to get a “Jack Straw” request, perhaps.

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Holy Smokes! As mentioned here, that Disc 2 is something else! I love the whole thing, but the Playin>UJB>Playin>Drums is particularly hot! Listened to it back to back last night - they are really hitting on all cylinders there!

Maryland has voted to legalize recreational MJ... only ONE county in the whole state didn't pass it, and ironically, it is the county that has some of the best hiking, skiing, kayaking, rafting, etc. - you know, all of the fun outdoor stuff. I believe it is the same county that even has one of our OwnInMD :)

Happy Veteran's day to all that served, all that currently serve, and all that have loved ones that have or do.

Peace

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..and I voted to legalize it.

A big win.. yea, my county is fun but it's bass ackwards in some areas. We only got beer sales on Sunday's about ten years ago. I was at the drive through bank last week, (and I think this was cool..., don't take this as a disparaging comment) anyway, there was a horse and buggy that pulled into the lane next to me. The horse pooped while the seemingly Amish buggy driver was waiting in line. There's a few segments of the population that don't look too kindly on us hipsters and our legal weed.

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Man, it's weird out there these days.

So yesterday I go down to the store to get stuff for tacos. And I come out with my bag full of taco stuff, and there's a guy standing in the parking lot close to my car, eating potato chips out of a bag and staring up at the sky.

You know what that is, doncha? he says, looking up at a big contrail that stretches from one horizon to the other. Um, yeah, I know exactly what it is, I says. I know I shoulda just left it at that, but I got the devil in me sometimes, so I says, what do YOU think it is?

And out comes this tirade about how the gummint is spraying mind control chemicals and how "they" are doing this so they can turn everybody into zombies and put in communism. He goes on for a minute or two in this vein.

Finally, I interrupt, and I says, hey man, I found a flying saucer the other day. Wanna go for a ride?

He didn't like that. Gotta kind of red in the face. I am just TRYING to get people to WAKE UP he says. And I realize, shit, this could go south pretty fast. i am just not as good as our friend Vguy when it comes to coping with random loons at the market and I better just take my refries and get the flock outta there. Which I did.

Tacos were pretty good, btw.

Still loving the latest DaP. Still making my way through the Waiting for Columbus box--many thanks to all who recommended it some weeks back. Got the day off, thanks to all our amazing veterans. Livin the dream, in other words.

Be safe out there, friends.

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I have been a licensed psychotherapist for thirty years and have long thought it was a shame that the therapeutic effects of psychedelics were never investigated. I am glad to see they finally are.

PS Listen to the Dead every day and your life will improve. Inevitably.

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2/17/79, ,2/9/73, 5/26/73, complete Oct 74 Winter land run, 6/17/75. any and all complete 1968 1969 and 1970 shows. The #1 box set is The complete. Fillmore West recordings, this should be released again on CD so everybody can have this incredible music.

Stillwater’s: have you checked out How To Change Your Mind?
Very interesting especially about the history of research and treatments and how finally TPTB are able to separate therapeutic value from negative recreational baggage etc. Amazing some of the results their having utilizing this methodology, especially on our veterans! Fascinating how the brain can forge new more efficient pathways etc.
Curious if you’ve had experience with this or know colleagues who have? Perhaps it’s not copacetic to discuss…

and to Crow too. Thanks for the laugh, things have been rough so nothing like a good laugh.
Just what the doctor ordered!

Still chuckling “I got a flying saucer, wanna go for a ride”
Perhaps the vast majority of society might benefit with some shroom therapy since it seems like many have lost their minds. Micro dose and Dead ; )

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....Area 51 is three hours north of here, but signs say they will shoot on sight. I usually just go around.
Larkin Poes new record is on Spotify.

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Anyone in the U.K. got DaP44 yet? Still digesting the MSG so not too worried.
On another topic, has anyone heard Greensky Bluegrass? Heard a live album - All Access - on Spotify with a decent cover of China-Rider….

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I have 2-3 of their releases, including an excellent recent release called Stress Dreams. I even purchased a poster for the band that Dave Kloc produced, who designed a number of Dave’s Picks covers (33 to 36 inclusive). Excellent bluegrass band, from Michigan - I think!

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hey deadheads, that Dave's 44 drums>space>The Wheel is pretty damn fine to my old worn-out ears.
Got my hearing aids 3 years ago and they were a God's send. Everything was muffled and I could not hear birds or high notes or low ones either. With the new ears after a checkup hear better than ever. 5 years ago, it was the eyes that went, cataracts in but no glaucoma :) after surgery, I can see like new, only need readers to read fine print.
Just got back from a checkup Monday and after the CT scan and the Ultrasound it has been determined that I have an abdominal Aortic Aneurysm that has grown to the point of surgery. Originally went in for liver scan (all good since I quit drinking) and that's when they spotted the aneurysm. now it is big enough for the dr. to worry so have one more appointment with the Vascular surgeon and we will see what he says but it will probably mean surgery. The VA hospital here is top notch and I'm not going to worry about it 87% chance of survival. I'm old but was hoping to see 75 and with the help of the VA and its fine doctors, I'm sure I will. I guess all those years ago that I spent in the military was a good thing. Didn't think so at the time, Vietnam and all Thanks to the great Dr. and nurses at the VA, they are the best.

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From Michigan indeed. I remember seeing them before they were big with about twenty people at Founders Brewery, before they too went big. If I recall correctly, it was the following summer Greensky won the amateur competition at Telluride. And the rest, as they say, was history. And guess what! Same story with Billy Strings about ten years later, only at that point Founders was rising up in the ranks.

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Sorry to hear that, PT, but my best to you! And Nappy, I'm glad to hear you've been well so long after quite the scare! I made a plug on here for colonoscopies a while back, but I'll do so again. Not that big a deal, folks, compared to what you COULD end up going through . . . just had my first at age 51 about a year ago.

Here in MN (and especially in the Twin Cities) things usually go well for the major party that has some members who don't fear drugs, and there was a slight surprise in the election results the other day that should mean legalized weed here in about a year or so. There already was this weird bill that went down out of the blue in the summer that got us some Delta 9 products, but the real deal would be appreciated, even if no one in authority in the Twin Cities has bothered anyone about weed for quite some time. Minneapolis has an ordinance that no law officer should arrest anyone who is using, so I believe at the moment about the most that might happen to you if you were seen smoking in that town is that an officer might walk over, ask you to stop, and suggest that you go somewhere a little more private.

Be kind, rewind . . .

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....thank you for your service.
No. Seriously. Gen Z showed up.
Progressive activist Maxwell Alejandro Frost, 25, will officially become the first Gen Z member of Congress after winning his race to represent Florida's 10th Congressional District.
Nice.
The Larkin Poe Blood Harmony is amazing!! Next up? A Black Crowes EP of covers from 1972.
They are coming back here in Feb. As is Three Dog Night and Umphrey's McGee. No shows on my radar until then. February is going to be cool.
$70 average price per show, so that's cool too.
Going to Three Dog Night with my sister and I's babysitter from way back in the day. She watched us and my mom watched her kids. Our families ended up being really close. Even to this day. She tried to turn me onto awesome music when I was 12. I didn't get it then but I do now. And she appreciates great sound.

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I'm kinda worried....I just caught Jinks looking at knives in my Cabela catalogue...

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Bruce Hornsby was saying tonight there were some unusual requests to play, including “Dark Star”, which brought some applause and chuckles from BH. He finally did a line or two acapella, and that was as close as we got to the Dead portion of Bruce’s show. As I suspected, without his band he is “Bruce Jarrett”, jazzy and kind of all over the place, but funny and irreverent, and an unbelievable keyboard player. If only Jerry could have beat the dragons, Bruce would have hung around, and recorded with the Dead, and who knows what might have come of that. At the very least, IMHO, he would have been the best keyboardist they ever had, bar none.

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...."Bruuuce!"
That's what I remember hearing when they took the stage in Vegas '91.
High time for another official release featuring him.

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And didn't need any voter-approved measures to grasp the therapeutic value of psychedelics. Nor did the many who participated before me. Yet it's invariably good when society catches up with reality. Looking back, I could not in good conscience recommend large doses of LSD for adolescents -- in my case, it was rough going there for a while, but I rode it out over the years and, now, six decades later, I am indebted to psychedelics for spiritual renewal over more than three-quarters of my life. I moved away from using psychedelics at, say, Dead shows, because the crowds and loud music require a certain level of coping, which inevitably provides benefits, yet also requires ignoring more subtle aspects of the experience. (Still, feeling Phil's bass in my chest as a purple warmth was really cool...) Instead, I head solo into the backcountry to trackless high desert and roam all day ... but never at such a high dose that I cannot orienteer my way back to the truck, where a guitar, spleef and stiff drink always await. Last fall, an antelope in Disappointment Draw trotted up and clearly asked me, in one syllable, "Where is my herd?" Not knowing how to reply, I simply kept finger-picking and the antelope cocked its head slightly, obviously listening, and stayed silently and immobile for maybe 15 minutes, then trotted off.

I have no point. Just a few thoughts on a sunny, cold, Saturday morning. Best of luck and good health to PT and all, and Crow -- way to go on the flyinig saucer retort. At one point I had normal-seeming, sweet neighbors who looked after me when my marriage hit the rocks, and one night they confided that they'd seen the "Mother Ship" hovering over their house. I became acutely aware of all my tiny facial muscles and sought to maintain a neutral look while I reeled inside. The thing is, maybe they did see it. Those Navy pilots are seeing and measuring the presence of somethin'...

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Happy birthday Neil Young. Just bought tix for a showing of his Harvest Time movie, at a local independent theatre. I love supporting the independents, anyways. They are in it for the love of film, not lucre.

Funny.. I watched the psilocybin and mdma portion of How To Change Your Mind on Netflix last night.. and the first thing I see this morning is this HF post. Coincidence?

As you were.. off to the river, it's high water here today.. we got some hurricane rain.

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One of the founder members of Hawkwind has died. RIP.

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Was shopping a while back in Delta, CO and got to talking to the owner of the antique mall/junque store about how they got all these records when I flipped to a beat up copy of Harvest and my wife asks if I'm going to get it. Nah, too many scratches I reply. The owner says Neil Young was in last week. Wow, really? Yes, he and Daryl Hannah come in about once a month she says. Had a nice conversation about how cool they both are, and how I had helped Daryl at a store in Montrose in the 90s, and that Neil owned Lionel Trains. Apparently they live up on Log Hill outside of Ridgway at Daryl's place part of the year. I immediately felt more important and connected because I shop where Neil and Daryl shop. Doesn't take much for me, LOL. I better shop there more often if I want him to sign that beater copy of Harvest. Happy birthday Neil!
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Edit: Condolences to Daverock and all the Hawkwind fans.

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Thanks for posting that about Nik Turner, Colin. Such an influential person in my world. Over the last 20 years or so, after his gigs, he often used to hang around talking to the likes of me, and he was always pleasure to talk to. With him, it was never an act, being one of the people. He just was. So R.I.P. - his actions made the world a better place.

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PT: FFS, sorry to hear about more adversity for you. Keep up the positive vibes, and good luck, and thanks to you and all our vets for your service and sacrifice! We look forward to many more years of hanging here with you!

UFOs?…Hey, Mr Spaceman, won’t you please take me along,
I won’t do anything wrong
Hey Mr Spaceman, won’t you please take me along for a ride…
or
Been me up Scotty, there’s no intelligent life down here!

Gen Z definitely makes the honor roll this semester! Keep it up kiddies!

NAPPY: replace all Passwords etc, and install triple authentication IMMEDIATELY, that darn Mr Jinks is too smart for his own good,…I’m starting to get worried!

MIKE: solo Bruce sounds sweet, especially if pulling a Jarret. Been digging The Koln concert album btw, nice suggestion ? (can’t recall who specifically, so many of you turned us on to so many great albums) so thanks to all, every suggestion has been awesome and fully dug! Been digging the gift too, mucho Garcias!
I would of just HAD to yell Daarrrrrrkkk Sstttaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr Bbrrruuuccceeeyyy!
In my best fake over the top NY accent at just the right moment lol. Saw him with his band about 15? ago outside at Aspen/Snowmass which was great, but never solo.
Holy crap, Sabres all ready done for the year lol. I’m telling ya brother it’s the water! The players have all been there a few months now, long enough for the water to start taking hold!

“Dr Shot, Dr Hendrix, Dooooocccctttoorr Hendrix, Dr Shot, your wanted on the stage please”

1stshow with another cool story. Cool part of living up here: occasionally rubbin elbows with celebs.

Condolences to DR

Ok, can’t wait to mull through insurance bs today and waste my precious time proving to these greedy pricks why their valuations etc are a joke. Hmmmm don’t we PAY these greedheads to do these things and take care of us, FFS!
Gonna need a big dose a Dark Star later fo sho!
ONWARD!

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Hi - New here but been around for years and have probably met many of you in my past life - First show 11/1/73 Northwestern U. in Evanston, Il..

Anyway, have not gotten my DP's 44 which was shipped (supposedly) on 10/27....I'm skeptical because UPS has no record of the tracking number provided in the e-mail I got from dead.net. That almost always means it has not shipped.

E-mails to dead.net customer service have gone unanswered. Any suggestions?

Thanks all

Rich

....pm Marye.
Nice first show.
I might have run into you at a Vegas or Shoreline show. Did you ever attend one?
Warning. The GD isn't all we talk about here. Have a seat and take it all in lol.

I just got mine yesterday, I'm not sure I even got a notification or tracking. I think however they ship it, it might involve USPS and UPS, so tracking and updates don't always reflect what's really going on anyway. I wouldn't panic just yet.. not sure what the holdup was this time, but mine was delayed also.

Now where was I.. that's right, liner notes and ripping Dave's 44.

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....Jim! Make sure to pay attention to the Drumz->Space. And the LLR storm samples.
See? I'm already distracted.
That Deep Elem was very cool. (3.9)

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NCRich - Mine isn’t here either, sent same date, but for me, over 2 postal systems, it is par for the course. Pre-Covid it would generally be a week, ten days, now delivery is “Whenev”. Mary E is the guiding light around here for untangling customer nonservice, so PM her with details and she will definitely help.

Oro - If Hornsby actually got to playing “Dark Star”, instead of a tease of speak-singing some lyrics, like he did, my belief in the existence of God would have been reinforced. A pretty funny guy, though, I gotta say. (Bruce. Not God.) I have it on my “To Do” to see him with his band if they are ever in proximity.
Glad you like Koln, by the way, I think we likely all suggested it to you, and awesome that you like the Miles, too. One day, out of the blue, you will put on the original album, and once he starts a minute or two in to “Shhh/Peaceful”, you will totally “get” why this guy was in a class all his own.
PS - Don’t give up on the Sabres. Eichel laid a beating on them, but they are still up and coming. The futures so bright for them, you gotta wear shades.

Recommended reading: the new bio on Charlie Watts, “Charlie’s Good Tonight”. Great read on an incredible musician and person.

Dennis - If you have the wife’s credit card out, I see Rhino has a Monkee’s Christmas album out that is made just for your collection.

....he actually did the "aren't you entertained" pose from Gladiator to the Buffalo fans. Omg.
Then put two more in, just to be sure they were entertained.
Golden helmets sighting on the ice after the hatty.
They were not.
Gotta wear shades regarding the up and coming Sabres.
I agree.
Edit. Nice Bird 🎵
And a firing on all cylinders Minglewood to send the heads to intermission.

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....wasn't me. But if I had been there, I would've been jumping around as well. It's what I do.
Interesting tinkering from Mydland as China Cat starts.
Buses is the capcha....

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Yea, I saw all those gold helmets after Eichel scored, and his celebration afterwards rivalled the dance scene with Uma & Travolta in “Kill Bill”.
A good psychiatrist might say there was a little “passive-aggressive” tendencies being exhibited there by ole Jack!

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....the Thurman/Travolta dance scene was from Pulp Fiction.
Five dollar milkshakes.
That's a good fuckin milkshake.
Then someone gets their brains blasted out in the back seat by accident.
Coffee.

....3.9.81 was awesome!
Gimme more! Oh. There's the following night. Brb.
That Mike hanging out in the sin bin lol.
Ooh. And then Bruce Willis (not the other Bruce), decides on a samurai sword. Time to f**k shit up.
Hard to argue that decision.
Huge Tarantino fan here btw.

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Finally arrived, exterior box looked like shit, but the glass was A-OK.

Hope that's the last glass!!!

Bring back the AXE!!!

Mike, I saw the Monkee's Christmas album. I will not lie,,,, I thought about it.

I have over 200 christmas albums in my "christmas" folder. Made the sensible choice and didn't buy. :-)

But if you get a copy........

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