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    You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

    "Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    Starting this morning with some of Garcia's finest (LA Baker) and disc 3 of this gem! The band just kicked into Eyes and I must say, today is gonna be a good day!

    Rock on, gang

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    In the old days, when you paid to have something done, you were rewarded by getting it ON release date! Today was listed as release date! Not only did I NOT receive my new CD, it appears that you haven't even bothered to ship it yet! This total lack of concern for your long term supporters, is soon going to bite you in the A$$!

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    Amen to that. Always a worry when people feel the need to be at war with others who have different beliefs or ideas. I wouldn't want to be part of a society where everyone agrees with each other, and tries to shut down debates that question the status quo.

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    There are NO WARS!!!!!!
    Dona nobis pacem

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    So last week Sis tells me she saw a Dead show at Mammoth Gardens 4/24/70. Now she sent info about "another good show she saw", the Denver Pop Festival including 6/29/69 where she saw the final performance of The Jimmy Hendrix Experience. The festival was largely overshadowed by Woodstock two months later but was a Barry Fey three day gig for $15 with great lineups and setlists. Only four years removed from her "generation" but I had no idea Denver's scene was that good back then. Going to have to get some stories from her.
    Cheers!
    Edit: Listened to the aud. recording she sent with it. Interesting hour or so with the last song missing (Voodoo Child/Slight Return). Not Jimi's best, but he was blazing. Some bad stories about the teargas, etc. there at Mile High. Wasn't long after that a similar incident at a Red Rocks show with Jethro Tull got rock shows banned from that venue for many years. Times were tougher for hippies before I started going to shows, but I guess it happened to us as well when the scene just got too big later.

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    Apologies for misreading. Pink Floyd also seemed to be the main band that people in England got into when they started smoking dope in the early 70s. They were so big by 1977, that John Lydon-nee Rotten, in one of his attempts to upset the masses, wore a Pink Floyd tee shirt with "I hate" scrawled on before the bands name. Nick Mason put a replica of this tee shirt on display at the Pink Floyd exhibition in London a few years ago.

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    Era wars just a joke...

    Though it does get ugly around here from time to time, mainly third and fourth Dave's of the year announcements and box sets.

    But glad to hear all the excellent tales of Pink Floyd earlier years. I dig that stuff a lot, and love that box set. Would have loved seeing them back then. Though I could totally understand somebody freaking out during Careful With That Axe.

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    Alvarhanso-sorry to come back so quickly-but that phrase "era wars" always puzzles me a bit. I don't think there is a single band or artist I have liked where I have liked all their work. Most, if not all, of the ones I liked in the early 70's left me a bit cold as the decade progressed. A random sample - The Stones, David Bowie, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Hawkwind - yes, it is everyone! - personnel changed, style, approach, inspiration...they all seemed to follow a similar trajectory-rise, peak, decline. And maybe repeat the pattern. I never saw myself as a long term "fan" of any band, who needed to like everything they did. I have also never felt the slightest animosity to anyone who sees things differently-or who likes a different era of a specific band to me though. I am certainly not at war with anyone!
    A lot of bands I have liked for decades - but there is a massive difference in quality - to me anyway- in the music they produced during that time.

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    Alvarhanso - in some respects, the era of Pink Floyd leading up to Dark Side seems to have gained currency in recent years. The Early Years 1965-1972 box set is a treasure trove. And those gigs Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets played a few years ago, focussing on those years, were brilliant-to me, anyway. A cover band for sure, but one with credibility and fire power. They opened with Interstellar Overdrive and Astronomy Domine. Top that.

    To me, Pink Floyd had three eras. First the Syd Barrett one, swiftly followed by the experimental phase, when Rick Wright was more influential. Rick Wright was also hugely important in developing their sound when Syd was at the helm - a very underrated musician. Then the Dark Side and beyond years, which seemed to be dominated more by Dave Gilmour and Roger Waters.

    Nappy - that gig where they played Careful With That Axe Eugene sounds good. They did do a few well known soundtracks for films-but that experimental phase always struck me as something that would have gone well with horror films. Something by Dario Argento, perhaps.

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    First, an apology for my addled memories...the choice between going to the Hollywood Bowl for PF or the Hollywood Palladium two weeks earlier for the GD was based purely on the fact that I'd rather see GD...DSOTM wasn't even released until 6 months or so after the Bowl gig... touring with unheard music was pretty ballsy...the Mother Heart Atom show was great with a small orchestra and choir accompanying the band...it started with "Astronomy Domine" and it just got crazier then that...during the floating wisps intro to "Careful With That Ax Eugene" a guy sitting in the orchestra pit, stood up with his hands over his ears yelling "STOP"...his friends tried to calm him but it didn't seem to help...Waters walked over to the edge of the stage, kneeled down and talked to the guy who finally calmed down enough to be escorted out by one of his friends to the lobby...crazy....I have a pretty decent for the time bootleg of this show and you can hear a disturbance but it's not clear enough to know what's going on...2nd set was "Atom heart Mother" with the "Interstellar Overdrive" for the encore...we went home very happy....for "Meddle" my memories aren't quite there...I remember "One Of These Days" as played but set lists I've seen don't show it...The ones I've seen only list one set but that can't be right...I do remember that as we waited in line it hailed on us which was pretty funny....earlier in the year I had taken a pretty nasty fall and broke my left arm and I had to be off from work for three weeks before I could go back to light duty...I went home to LA and because of being ther with my arm in a cast I saw The Stones at The Long Beach Arena & Pigpen's last show at The Hollywood Bowl...also at that time was when my picture was taken with Muddy Waters in the lobby of The Ash Grove as we were both there to see Johnny Shines play...'72 was a good year, broken arm and all!

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You can listen to Grateful Dead records over and over again and never understand the attraction they have for certain people until you attend one of their concerts. Sometime during the Dead's usual five-hour set, it will all click: Jerry Garcia's Indian bead string of notes on the guitar, the ozone ooze of the vocal harmonies, the shifting, shuffling rhythm of bassist Phil Lesh and drummer Bill Kreutzmann, and the distant echo of the oldest of American folk music. - Columbia Flier

"Certain people" will know that we're coming in hot with one that's got all these things and more, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77. Yes, there's still plenty of spectacular May '77 to go around. Nearly chosen for Dave's Picks Vol. 1, 5/26/77 delivers three-fold. There's one count for the energy - all the precision of the Spring tour conjuring up the raw power of the Fall tour that was to come. There's another for the setlist which featured beloved songs from WORKINGMAN'S DEAD and soon-to-be favorites from the freshly recorded TERRAPIN STATION. And a third for its element of surprise (or shall we say surprises) from an astonishingly peak 15-minute "Sugaree" to new delights ("Sunrise," "Passenger," "Jack-A-Roe') to a rare first-set finale of "Bertha" to the second set's "Terrapin>Estimated>Eyes," traveling leaps and bounds towards the improvisational journey that is a nearly 17-minute "Not Fade Away." 

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 41: BALTIMORE CIVIC CENTER, BALTIMORE, MARYLAND, 5/26/77 was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/13/2022 - 15:37

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....I'm going with some Doors to start. Box set that came out in 1997. LA Woman y'all.
Chris Collingsworth is annoying imo. I know who he's rooting for.

....I had 10.19.72 in my hand before dipping into Ray, Jim, John and Robby. Weird.
Second half music.
Edit. Nice catch by Chase. Dayum.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Sun, 02/13/2022 - 16:16

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10-19-72 playing now, on Greatest Story
10-18-72 earlier today
10-30-73 last night

Love this Box.

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sun, 02/13/2022 - 16:51

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....first set starts out with a Promised Land, Tennessee Jed and a Jack Straw. Who would complain about that trifecta? Hint. No one.
Hitting play now.
Edit. At the 2 second mark of Jed, someone squealed. Hell yeah.

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Submitted by simonrob on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 02:50

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Lately I've been going back in time somewhat. Nothing wrong with that, of course.

Slumberin' on the Cumberland - John Hartford, Pat Burton & Benny Martin (1979)
When the clock strikes 12 - Slo Leak (1999)
Texas rock for country rollers - Sir Doug & the Texas Tornados (1976)
Casting pearls - Mill Valley Bunch (1972)
Live at Mexicali Blues Cafe, Teaneck, NJ April 7, 2007 - Avalon Allstars
(Ray White, Bobby Vega, Barry Sless, John Molo, Mookie Segal. Download from DigitalSoundboard.net)

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 06:32

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Wow, the Grateful Dead sure played some fantastic shows on Valentine's Day: 2/14/68 & 2/14/70 are as good as it gets. Happy Valentine's Day everyone.

I was curious to see which shows they played on Valentine's Day. Turns out they also played in 1969, 1986, and 1988 on the holiday. (Others? JGB, side bands?) Of course, most know about 1968 and 1970 where the shows have reached essentially mythic status but those other gigs were generally unbeknownst to me. Lovely day all :-)

-edit- I should say, besides '86. I knew about that one as I had a nice sounding tape once upon a time.

-edit 2- Enjoying DaP 21 (4-2-73) currently, which sort of has a Valentine's inspired cover art.

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Submitted by That Mike on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 10:15

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HendrixFreak mentioned the 2007 Avalon release of the Bear’s recording of the Flying Burritos - an absolute fantastic release, with pretty well impeccable sound. A great band well ahead of it’s time. I changed my avatar to show me skulking around Chris Hillman, after a club date in town with his musical partner Herb Pedersen (a criminally under-appreciated guitarist, who did duty from the Dillards to Old And In The Gray). Nice guys, both, and great musicians, and this is a collection worthy of finding on CD. Ahead of their time, indeed.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 11:58

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TM, actually I was thinking after hearing the Burrito Bros dbl-disc that, while the sound is pretty darn good, it lacked a degree of clarity I typically associate with Owlsley's recordings. But everything is there -- bass, drums, guitars, pedal steel, vocals. It made me wonder whether the GD shows 4-6 April '69 are of similar quality, which certainly is good enough for me to plunk down money for them.

Hmm, guess I'll have to spin that Hot Burrito again.

HF - There is an interesting take on the April 4-6 shows by the Dead at the Avalon, on a blog called Lost Live Dead dot blogspot dot com
Not only were the Dead packing a powerful Pigpen showcase, some thought is given that Jerry heard Sneeky Pete doing his ‘thang on the pedal steel, and it reinvigorated his desire to master the instrument.
Regardless, I agree with you 100% that the three shows would make a nice neat little release!
Is there a Dr Lemieux in the house?

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Submitted by jp1119 on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 13:00

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I’m sure there’s a forum page that references these but I just listened to Jerry’s contributions to the Zabriskie Point Soundtrack. I can't believe I'd missed them before. (Jerry Garcia - Love Scene and 4 Outtake Improvisations)

Wow. Powerfully simple playing. Like he was sitting right next to you. As he put it after recording, “…just me and my electric guitar and a little amplifier.”

Stunningly simple improvisational songs, slow, steady, and melodic.

These tracks won’t knock you out of your chair but they will make you want to sit still and listen to them more than once.

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Submitted by adedhed68 on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 15:02

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The JGB played an epic show on 2/14/76, and there is a really nice soundboard that circulates.

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Submitted by hendrixfreak on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 16:13

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TM, I actually wondered about that pedal steel (possible) connection.

Did you mention PIGPEN??? In fact, that is what I noted from the 4-6 April setlists: plenty of my favorite GREASE.

Also note that the Burrito Bros. played Hank Williams' "You Win Again" and I think maybe that's where Jer picked that song up... I think in the early days, Jer is said to have always gotten to the gigs early.

That Byrds >> Burritos sound may well have inspired the Jer transition to the WD-type country, in contrast to Bobby's cowboy songs, per se.

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Submitted by nappyrags on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 17:41

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PF's stage show by '94 was way way over choreographed...little room for improvisation...at a complete show dress rehearsal they did at an empty hangar at the closed Norton Air Force base in San Berdoo I found a sheet of paper on the ground that was a list of instructions to one of the spot light operators....it was completely written out...red beams at 5:43 of so and so song, green and blue at 7:31 etc...blew me away...I was working the weekend for a caterer I knew...the first night was a very VIP invited crowd....the second night, no crowd just us working folk and we were treated to a complete show as the night before...in addition to the stage sound system they had their remote stacks out on the tarmac in front of the hangar...mas cool

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Submitted by That Mike on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 17:53

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HF - The more I see those set lists for that 3 night stand at the Avalon, the more I would love to see it’s official release. A seldom-played song was Jerry drumming up the pathos with a world weary voice on (I Know) It’s A Sin. Just great stuff! What shows to see, too: prime Burritos as an appetizer, and really greasy Pigpen for the entree!
All for probably $5 at the door, which barely buys you a beer now!

Fun fact: Something in the musical air in April, 1969. Less than two weeks later, at Winterland, Bill Graham had the “coming out” party for The Band!

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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 02/14/2022 - 20:36

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....I'm boring lol.
Hi Mike! 👋
Figured I'd jump on the showing my face trend. I've done it before, but not with my valentine. 💘 She keeps me on an even keel. Say hi to my dead.net friends Cheryl! 👋
She says Hello and loves you peeps too.
Could be worse influences she says. Ha.
Edit. Is there something in my teeth?
Nope. That was my phone screen. Disregard.
adedhed68 has a tabby cat. The best cats. Followed closely by black cats.
Second edit. Tons of bands announcing tours. Grate newz!!!

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 06:24

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Once again this site has cost me money. All this talk about the Flying Burritos and the Stanley recording, made me check. And, no, I didn't have it.

Luckly, I found a copy on Discogs for 5 bucks,,,, what the hell!

U's guys and talk about shit I don't have....... keepin' up with the jones' is killing me, they ought to hang the man that said the best thing in life are for free!

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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 06:36

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Got my "shipped" notice about Joni Archive 2. It's mail innovations, should be here by Easter!

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 08:34

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If you don’t have Bear’s Sonic Journals #1, Janis and Big Brother 6-23-68, I highly suggest it.
Bust out the wife’s credit card.

Weird that it isn’t listed on the OSF web page, and yet is the first release in the series.
There’s info about it on Wikipedia.

No sign here. UPS hasn’t updated since 7th Feb. USPS say they are aware of the alternative tracking number but don’t have it. This tracking number ends in FR so is presumably heading to France. Poste France doesn’t have tracking info and Royal Mail say that the number isn’t traceable. I’m still not worried. I’ll start panicking in a week or so.
Looking at Amazon UK I notice the Janis/Big Brother cd is on offer for c. £135 so I think I’ll give it a miss.

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Submitted by That Mike on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 10:17

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Dennis - Believe me, the best $5 you will ever spend. There is not enough Gram music out there, and it’s an Owsley! HendrixFreak & I are quietly proud right now…

VGuy72 - Great pic of you and the Mrs!

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Submitted by 1stshow70878 on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 10:30

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A little off subject and likely should be in the What's in Your Fridge thread:
Another Covid related crisis in Colorado. Ball can co. has shut out small brewers by raising their minimum order to a million cans per SKU (5 times higher) and not offering storage any more. One brewer said it would take his price from $10 per 6 pack to $13 as he had to buy cans from Nebraska and now pay to store the waiting cans. Ball blames metal prices and a shortage of warehouse space. What's next, sliced bread? Lord, give us this day our daily beer please.
Cheers, or maybe pound 'em if ya got 'em.

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Submitted by simonrob on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 10:47

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Here in the Netherlands I have not yet received my copy of Dave's 41 and I'm not expecting it any time soon.

It has been shipped with Mail Innovations.

Normally it is given to UPS who then pass it on to USPS who use the alternative tracking number, a US tracking number with the format XX123456789US. USPS then ship it to Europe where the national postal service take it and deliver it.

This time, for the first time, it is different. The alternative tracking number has the format XX123456789CH which is a tracking number for Swiss Post. USPS recognizes the tracking number but have said that the label has been created but the package is not yet in their system. According to UPS the package departed the international carrier facility on February 9. Swiss Post tracking shows that it left LAX on February 9. From this you can see why I'm not expecting it in the Netherlands any time soon.

I suspect that Colin Gould is experiencing a similar situation but his copy is going to the UK via France.

Whatever is going on, it seems that there is a problem getting European packages across the pond.

She could change her mind.

Just like I just did -- listened again to the live Flying Burrito Bros' Owsley tape last night and, indeed, That Mike is correct. It is a top- notch recording, especially for an early '69 field recording at the Avalon. Dennis you got a great deal for $5. I paid $20 with shipping and am very glad I did.

I can confirm that that '68 Janis tape by Owsley is phenomenal!

And yes, Dennis, it is very costly to read this forum. I don't need to keep up with anyone, but my musical curiosity knows few boundaries and thus my wallet is frequently getting plundered.

My DaP #40 came via Switzerland, but that was very fast. I’ve got the latest 5 releases from the Another Timbre label to play so that should keep me occupied.

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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Tue, 02/15/2022 - 16:28

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Available on CD at Amazon for not super outrageous, but still pretty high.
But it’s also available on their streaming.

Also saw GD 3-1-69 vinyl there for $75.22, which is only $0.22 more than I paid at a local brick and mortar on release day.

Happy Will I contacted USPS yesterday and they are unable to provide me with any information as they state that is a low cost postage option that has been used, they have no idea where any of the international orders are.
They did provide this UK telephone number to contact UPS on 44 207 9490190, I am not going to worry about it for at least another week, hopefully it will have left the USA by then at least.

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Submitted by frankparry on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 02:01

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I ordered 3 subscription copies - one for myself, one for a friend and one as a spare since 0ne of my DaP40s went missing and I didn’t want to miss out again. The two copies I ordered in one go came last week in a signed for package. The spare (which I intend to give away to a friend rather than sell on eBay) I ordered separately has not arrived.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 03:08

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DaP #41 has just dropped through my letterbox.
It’s done better than two items sent to my wife by a friend in Indiana. They were sent in early December and have never arrived.
Not as well as an item from Australia that arrived in 10 days and was traceable the whole way with a comparable postage charge.
Going out shortly but will give it a listen soon.

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Submitted by docmarty on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 06:54

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Mine came through letterbox in Southern UK today.
Came via France - no doubt slowed down by Brexit!!!

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Submitted by Happy Will on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 07:00

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Why, when I import my Dave's Picks into i-tunes or my HDD I can never get three "album" titles that are the same. Always need post import editing. Who is out there taking the p*** 😂😎

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Submitted by Happy Will on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 07:03

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Why did it t sell out so quickly? a scam? I was caught napping and am pissed at myself and at the scalpers on eBay.

Shame about missing out DaP 1 in vinyl. I knew they'd go fast since the cd version is up to like 600 bucks!!!!

I laugh when I see the vinyl on ebay claiming "in stock"!!! Not even out yet. Price is crazy.

But have you seen the prices on complete Dave's and Dick's picks? 4k!!

But I did get 2 copies of 3/1/69 vinyl,,,, screwed up in ordering, figure I sit on it for a while and see what happens.

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Submitted by That Mike on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 09:12

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RIP PJ, and thanks for your gentle good humour, and a nod to the old National Lampoon, for being an often laugh-out-loud read!

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Submitted by billy the kiddd on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 09:20

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40 years ago today , I was at the Warfield Theatre for another great night with the Good Ole Grateful Dead. The Dead played a great show, a great way to kick off 1982. It turned out to be a great year for Dead shows, with shows at the Greek, Frost,( 10/9 & 10/82 my favorite shows of the year), Ventura( always a blast), Veneta, Oregon, and a year end blow out at the Oakland Auditorium in December. Crazy fun times.

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Submitted by Colin Gould on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 10:22

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I see the RSD list is out. 5LP set of Wembley Empire Pool 4/8/72 by GD for those who are interested.

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Submitted by Cousins Of The… on Wed, 02/16/2022 - 14:27

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Not sure if it's been mentioned here, next RSD releases will include 4/8/1972(yes, Thee Grateful Dead...) on 5 LPs.
(never mind...just saw Colin's post...)

Last 5:

Ruby & the Romantics: Greatest Hits
Royalettes: Gonna Take a Miracle
Celtic Frost: Into the Pandemonium
Slayer: South of Heaven
Brenda Lee: By Request

Did you get charged the same fees as before, or did going through Switzerland and France first not result in fees?

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Submitted by docmarty on Thu, 02/17/2022 - 00:54

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No charge for Dave's 41
However still battling with UPS to get refund for St Louis box set.
Latest update - must wait 30 days after providing full bank details
To anyone else not had refund you have to keep hassling them
I'll let you know when i finally get money

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Submitted by Daysbetween on Thu, 02/17/2022 - 03:44

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5466 just arrived in Scotland. Came via France with no charges. Happy daze. Need to save my pennies now for the RSD Dead & Jerry vinyl releases.

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Submitted by JJ Fehmarn on Thu, 02/17/2022 - 04:50

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Received my copy on Tuesday, additional tax EUR 4,18 and handling fee EUR 6,00.

Last five:
Blues Project - Blues Project LP
Gov't Mule - Red Rocks 09/14/18 4-CD
Neil Young - Barn LP
Pearl Jam - New York 3/16/92 2-CD
Rolling Stones - Cuba 3/25/16 2-CD

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