What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube
Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube
...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net
Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit
I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube
We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.
Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.
*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.
....count my vote as aye regarding that concept. In fact, might clean the pipes out tonight. A psychedelic drano as they say.
Loving GarciaLive 18 still. Haven't taken it out of the carousel yet.
on the way from Fontana!!!
On the ship notice.
RGM has the R.T. Vol.1 No.1 Fall 1979 in stock.
They talked it up so much I'm going to it next.
All this talk about David Crosby and Mushrooms.....Back in the Spring of 1971 I was a Sophmore at Penn State Sitting in a Dorm room A friend put on Crosby's new Album about a half hour after...RED with White Dots. Different people have different experiences with these Mushrooms. I remember feeling alittle nauseous, but that went away. I was thinking I was not getting off...The song "Laughing" came on with Jerry Garcia playing Steel Guitar. The last couple minutes of the song Garcia plays some of the most amazing Steel I've ever heard and out the door I went. I did not realize how amazing of a time I had on my own in the woods until I came down. Walking through woods I never was before, Looking at life in a small Creek, and spending time with a stray dog that came along and seemed to be observing me. I do not talk much on these threads but I love reading all your comments a couple times everyday.. I am 71 now and Grateful Dead music has been one of a few things that has stayed with me
…Share more often!! It’s clear you are one of us, and have stories to tell.
No one took me up on the Dave’s Bonus Disc challenges, so I will continue playing my bonus discs and see where that leads me
#45 cannot be TOO long of a wait (I hope) and I’m already thinking the show from the 2nd might be the gem of this Pick.
As you were.
....as are a majority of peeps that post in this colorful corner of the internet. The GD are indeed timeless. Are we stuck with them, or are they stuck with us?
And no, I'm not tripping.
No shipping notice here yet. Portland will probably arrive tomorrow knowing how these things work, or don't.
Obligatory first bump 🤜🤛
I've found that elk, deer, coyote, pronghorn and dogs (for 12 years including mine) would give me the most quizzical looks if they were in my psychedelic proximity.
And it is interesting that mushroom legalization allows people to partake under the safety of a "guide." Okay, not a problem for me. I've been gobbling them solo in the wilderness for 50 years. Guess I've gotten a wee bit of practice...
Got shipping notice. Countdown to rock 'n roll!
....round holes. Where is Gainesville??
Dead.net will explode and crash when released. Marye will be here for damage control while Lemiuex will point at wildlife. Bust out the fire extinguishers dear.
I saw a video of the snow pack at Mammoth in California. 12'.
Need that in the Rockies, but it's a start.
Now on to some trips of the 30 variety.
Started with ‘85, set two. Onto ‘82, set one. ‘81, the whole show. Perhaps 1980, set two should be next.
You know, no one should EVER complain about any release, because we have SO MUCH!!
Music is the Best!!
My favourite Bob album, I'm listening to it now midway through the last song, Highlands, 16:32. It's like a trance groove. There are two or three schmaltzy love songs on this disc but most is spooky and cool, haunted Bob at his best.
Tomorrow is release day for the five disc celebration of this masterpiece, and when I get home from work I shall pour a glass of Basil Hayden, burn it into eyeTunes, pick up a Gibson and strum along for a bit. Ah, the simple pleasures.
Got a rando shipping notice from Warners as well about the new Dead release... apparently more great music is enroute.
We're in Stapleton. Same as everyplace else, Manhattan or Middle Earth.
Chuck - great story. That's what you call a tea party.
I have been put in mind of Jefferson Airplane through various conversations recently, and played "Surrealistic Pillow" for the first time in aeons last night. I was surprised how good it sounds - not just the songs, but the actual sound of it. Quite echoey. Jorma Kaukonen's guitar sounds very different on here than it does on other albums. Less overdriven and blues based. More....echoey. Pleasantly spooky.
May was the month that we (mostly me) would start to venture out into the cow fields to gather the sacred psilocybin cubensis. Sometimes in April but mostly from May thru September and occasionally in early October. I would go every weekend and gather them. In Florida, South of Kissimmee in a town called Poinciana. There was a road that ran down the side of this cow field on one side, RR tracks on the other. This road had been built for the RR to build a station, but they never build the station. We would drive down this abandoned road about a quarter mile and then pull into a clearing alongside the tracks to park.
I had heard from the locals and thru my then then wife's brother that this field had been there for about 100 years and always had cows there and there was always plenty of mushrooms. He was right, place was lousy with them, so many that we would only pick the big ones, leaving the smaller ones to grow and spore.
The shrooms themselves were ancient, depending on the dose, these magical mushrooms would take you astral tripping to just about anywhere you could think of. I myself flew on a winged camel thru the Himalayas and back, then right up to the moon to walk among the mountains there.
For years we would pick here, never having any hassles from neighboring farms or the man. We would stay out there for hours leisurely picking to our hearts content. Picking them to me was half the fun, then came the best part, the consuming.
I had heard for years that the ancient Aztecs would consume the sacrament while drinking chocolate and would dip the shrooms in honey. As most of us have experienced, they would have visions and legend has it that they would extremely enjoy themselves. During the experience, the royals would collect their urine and store it until the following day, then they would allow their best followers partake of their urine and experience the "fruit of the Gods". This was a rare honor and only given to the most loyal slave or follower.
Now I never could read no roadmap and I don't know what the weather might do, but back in the day, if it rained during any of those months, I was out in the fields.
Santa was a mushroom and magic dust really did make the reindeer fly. Faries wear boots too.
Brain maintenance is a good way to put it, cleaning out the cobwebs, attitude adjustment, or just to sit and laugh.
always loved them.
I remember my first trip, Purple Haze, big hits, crumbly, and soo good, only had to do an 8th, sometimes a quarter, depending upon the circumstances.
"I hope I never forget how to do nothing."
Mushrooms - Never a big fan. I recall doing them one time, and feeling this need to really clean up the townhouse I was in, as I had company coming that night. I’m doing everything, including laundry, but I threw these really expensive wool dress slacks I had for work into the dryer, without thinking. They came out GI Joe sized. My best friend’s older brother attended Ole Miss around 1970, and he said the mushrooms were so plentiful, they would collect bags of them. He is the guy that turned me on to two albums I still love: Crosby’s first solo, and the first one by Its A Beautiful Day
Shipping Notice - On its way, which is likely in two weeks. The second show looks like the gem in this package.
Dylan - The new Bootleg #17 arriving today, although Time Out Of Mind is not my favourite Dylan. I wish his next bootleg release would be some of the great stuff from his Never Ending Tour. He always travelled with a crack band, especially guitar players, Charlie Sexton, Larry Campbell, and Duke Robillard come to mind, plus his canon of music is massive, so many great songs got played over the years. Even cover songs, Dylan has a way of making them his own. Incidentally, I had bought his new book a few months ago, just getting to it the last few days, but he sure has a way with words.
“You live in a world of romance and rubble, and you roam the streets at all hours of the night. You’ve acquired things and brought people the goods”.
Fresh was seldom an option in CO. Had a friend who grew his own fungi in a terrarium but supplies were very limited. We did see fresh frozen that looked like frozen turds and most often the dried form. There was even a "brand" of dried that came in prepackaged cello bags with a colorful art nouveau header card on top with their brand name. I had a friend who was hesitant to take hallucinogens (the Paul McCartney of our posse) but would put some dried ones on top of cannabis to smoke. Seemed a waste to me. Can't say it had any effect as that bowl was passed around. Did more vitamin L than any other method but had some more intense effects from fresh buttons carefully and religiously prepared and a couple of times the purified forms of mescaline crystals. The frozen shrooms and fresh buttons went down well in a milk shake made in a blender. Not sure Don Genaro would approve of that ritual. Never had any other chemical forms, back then or more modern, as those always had the reputation of "bad drugs". Had some wild dreams one time after smoking some opiated black hash though. Now that CO will have those "healing centers" with supervised use I'll bet the previous comment about Pharma jumping in and likely ruining things may happen. I'm sure they are already working on it, at least in less public corners. The great outdoors has always been the best and safest way to indulge for me.
45 still not sold out? Wait, what?
And don’t you drink that reindeer pee. Unless you’re not busy for about a month, as Cheech once said to Chong.
I am always amazed at the ingenuity of humans when it comes to altering consciousness. If there is an herb that can be smoked, a root that can be made into tea, a fruit, berry, or packet of ketchup that can be fermented, a tree bark that can be crushed to a powder and inhaled, and it’s going to get you high, well, somebody figured that out and there are people out there doing it. But reindeer piss? You got to wonder how somebody discovered that one.
I used to go mushroom hunting on the Oregon coast, some lifetimes ago. Still can’t resist the urge to bend down to check out the blooming fungi, looking for the that tell tale purple bruising. But it’s been a long time since I’ve done any voyaging. Too long, in fact. I need to find a bag, pull an HF, and feed my head out in nature someplace, and soon.
I will say unapologetically that psychedelics changed my life for the better, and I believe that the vast majority of people would be better humans if they tripped once in a while. I’m glad the laws are changing, even if it inevitably means that the capitalists will be along any moment to find some way to commercialize the experience. I still think that legalizing shrooms for therapy will be like legalizing “medicinal” marijuana, and will eventually lead to more accessibility for more people. The more people try it, the more people talk about it, the more people will want to do it, the better for everyone.
I got my shipping notice for DaP 45 last night. Which usually just means that somebody printed the label, and it’s going to sit in a warehouse for a week or so, and then take another week to meander the length of California to my door. It’s all good. Plenty of music to dig in the meanwhile. Speaking of which …
Mahler’s Sixth Symphony (Bernstein/NYPO) (a Phil Lesh favorite!)
Mingus Big Band: Blues and Politics
King Crimson: Absent Lovers
Tom Petty: Damn the Torpedoes
GOGD: DaP 23 (1/22/78) (very energetic, very cokey, very enjoyable: dig that Space>St Stephen>NFA!)
all is great
Mason's Children is definitive
after that show MC was pretty anemic
turn up the 12/28/69 MC LOUD
....my mind wasn't set for it.
When it comes to psychedelics, ones frame of mind prior to ingesting is rule #1. And mine wasn't lined up at the time.
The conservations on this board for the past couple of days has been awesome btw.
Shipping notice received.
Rhino coming out with Genesis - BBC Broadcasts, 1970-1998. Lots of shows from places that Daverock and our other brothers from over the pond mention. Any feedback? Anyone see them in that long career? Available in a 50+ tracks 5-CD version and a 24 tracks 3-vinyl version. Always liked their prog-rock almost folksy style. Closest thing I currently have is a Mike & The Mechanics record. Love Paul Carrack on vocals on that one. (Has the song In The Living Years which I can personally relate to.) My wife cannot suffer Phil Collins though, not sure why. She can't countenance Jimmy Buffett either.
Some of the featured shows: 1975 Wembley Empire Pool, 1980 Lyceum, 1978 and 1992 Knebworth, 1987 Wembley
I was just going to post about this. I don’t think I recall Genesis ever get mentioned on these boards, ever. I personally never saw them, but I did see Gabriel one time - fantastic showman, and Steve Hackett is a terrific guitarist. The band really bit after these two guys left, but this release looks really promising.
....my knowledge is limited.
Grew up on Duke, Abacab and Invisible Touch. I do know that.
Oh. And that Leave It video on MTV.
What can I say? Gen X here checking in.
My wife doesn't like Dark Star, TOO, Fluffhead or You Enjoy Myself.
She likes Sugaree, Ramble-On Rose, Cavern and Divided Sky though.
Give and take.
Funny how that deadnet serendipity strikes again, as just last night I was thinking of something to watch, and went for music documentary search on Amazon, up popped Peter Gabriel Secret World Live, a couple of concerts from back to back nights in Italy in November 1993. Love Gabriel, and like Genesis, mainly the Gabriel era, though I like some of the Phil Collins-era as well. Not big on Collins solo, or Hackett, or Rutherford, for that matter. Love Collins's underrated jazz fusion-funk band Brand X. That is some incredible stuff, and the tightest and best drumming I've ever heard from Collins. But I put Peter Gabriel up there with the genius musicians, and that concert film exemplified it. I had seen another of his concert films from another tour, and he really puts on a spectacle. I wish I could have caught him, or that he does another tour. He has innovative stages, uses the stage in innovative ways that was way ahead of its time. The first one I saw he had a very small circular stage with the audience surrounding, and no visible amps, all musicians playing wirelessly, and he rode a bike while singing at one point, plenty of choreographed dancing that would make the Temptations proud, and a killer band headlined by Tony Levin on basses and Chapman Stick.
Secret World featured two circular stages, again sans amps, but now with a long, narrow pier connecting them. They did a song called Across the River with Shankar on double-bodied electric violin by himself, and Gabriel and his bandmates on the other side of the river, and in a little ambient jam, Gabriel was playing rain stick while he and the band took a conveyor belt across the "river" and joined Shankar, and segued smoothly into Shaking the Tree, a great song he co-wrote with Youssou N'Dour, who sang memorably on In Your Eyes. He opened the show with a telephone booth prop and duet with Paula Cole that really set the stage for the theatricality and brilliant music to come. Whatever he charges for a concert would be worth it. Even being the same show each night. Conversely, Genesis was here in Boston for 2 nights in December 2021, playing their last ever US shows, had no interest. But I can listen and enjoy their music.
And I wasn't on mushrooms, but I can imagine that would be a good use of about 2 hours of that time.
I only saw Genesis once, in early 1973 at the Free Trade Hall in Manchester. It was about the 4th concert I went to, and I can still remember it quite clearly. A very dramatic opening with "Watcher of the Skies" and great versions of "Suppers Ready", "The Musical Box" and "The Return of The Giant Hogweed". "The Knife" was the encore. It felt like quite a surreal evening - a sort of adult fairy tale feel to it. Part of this show was released on the "Genesis Live" album that came out later in the year. A long forgotten band called String Driven Thing were the support band, who were also pretty good.
Excellent review! I cannot believe I didn't know that "Philip Collins" (with lots of hair in photo) was in Brand X. You're so right about his drumming then. The band is tight. Absolutely love the two I have from my fusion days, Moroccan Roll and Unorthodox Behaviour. Need to spin those again as I've been on a fusion sidetrack lately. Any other recommendations for them?
And DR the adult fairy tale is a good description of their style and Gentle Giant, even Tull at times.
Brand X! Good sheet Mon!
Since y’all brought it up.
Gotta friend who serendipitously obtained some veggies a few moths ago but hasn’t enjoyed yet.
Anyone know how long they last/are good for? I think she said they’ve been in her cool garage?
I always liked them better than vitamin A, was quite the ahem researcher BITD. Been many decades since, but after that How to Change Your Mind book/Doc, thinking my neural pathways could use a little micro rerouting lol. 😁
....my son passed his driving test today.
Now go pick me up some Chinese take out slave!
Second time was the charm.
Took me two times too.
Guess it a Genesis night. Funny how this site will steer my auditory compass.
Btw. I have good taste.
Umphreys McGee is good.
Wow, another good thread. I love all these bands/artists, and enjoyed them live.
Saw Genesis 7 times, but only started in 1980.
Saw Peter Gabriel 6 times, beginning in ‘82, and every tour after that until early ‘90’s.
Only saw Brand X once, no Phil, but he played a couple of Brand X tunes on his first 2 solo tours.
I would recommend Masques & Product as top notch Brand X albums, although about 9 years ago, Charisma put out a fantastic 4 disc set of their first 6 albums and a few BBC tracks. Top notch!!
I always preferred mushrooms to LSD, although I had access to good quality LSD a couple of times, that was sweet. I could eat mushrooms and really enjoy live music(Rush!!). I could also shroom and go out socially. Quite enjoyable.
Top 5 Genesis albums(IMHO):
Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Selling England By The Pound
Live-the 1st one
Wind & Wuthering
It’s gonna be a music filled weekend!!
The Best kind.
Sold out after 10 days either people have '77 burnout or TPTB hit the magic number at 25,000 copies. Remember when the first 2 years only 12,000 copies were made? How times have changed.
Just pulled out GG Playing The Fool start tonight finish tomorrow.
Love the word definitive.
As for NOT.. I'm not saying the flooded the market with the 25k limited edition, but this in combination with the box set model of sandwiches of great shows surrounded by ok shows and take years to sell out. Well, they have released a mountain of material and it doesn't seem nearly as limited as the paychecks that keep it afloat. As much as I like '77, they seem to overly rely on it this time of the year. So here we are.
Keep in mind the stuff they do release is mostly mind-blowing stuff, I don't feel taken or anything. There might just be some saturation competing with shrinking paychecks.
Smithers, release the hounds (sorry, just love saying that)
As you were.
....when I played some Genesis.
She thanks you guys for the recommendation.
and its sold out immediately.
I have ordered that Genesis, Mike.
Most comments seem to echo my feelings. Saw Pete during the "Plays Live" tour and the Bicycle tour. The man puts on a hell of show.
Always thought Pete was the brains behind Genesis, never thought they were as good after he left.
Got Bob Dylan's Bootleg 17 in cds tonight. The LP's are lined up for tomorrow.
Just for the record Mike, my buying MAY (?) slow down. The store I work in is closing the location I work at. I will be looking for something new, but first my wife says I need to do some work around the house. Current job will be hard to match. Not too many jobs you can do the amount of substances we do and still have a job :-).
Dennis - Sorry to hear your business is closing. I got “downsized” after 32 years at my job a few years back (the VERY day I returned after being off 8 months recovering from cancer and all that involves - real pricks) and finding comparable income at a certain age is impossible. I hope it works out good for you, Dennis. I’ve been the same lately with buying music, I’ve bought only two things this year, the new Dylan (arrived yesterday), and DaP 45.
On that note, some have wondered why DaP 45 has not sold out. All good reasons listed, but may I also add the international shipping rate is likely a factor. Not a complaint, it is what it is, that is the cost of things, but a charge of $16.99 shipping for a la carte items is just beyond what some folks may pay. I did not subscribe this year, it just outpriced me, I’ll just bite the shipping bullet on select items, but it is what it is.
Love the Genesis chat, and it seems everyone is a Gabriel fan. When we saw him, I’m thinking early 80s, me and my buddy were sitting right beside an entrance to the seating area in the arena he played at. My friend is loading up his pipe with some hash, just as the house lights go out. Being Gabriel, he and the band couldn’t just show up on stage from the wings, no, it had to be theatrical. A very bright light appears from the entrance beside us, a hand held light, very bright, and at different entrances around the arena. My friend thought it was some cops thing and freaked, and dropped/threw his pipe and all this great Lebanese hash! It was a member of the band making their entrance to the show, where they would walk to the stage holding this incredibly bright light skyward! (Gabriel is a genius theatrical performer). I laughed so phucing hard at my friend, he was so pissed!! (He did something similar at a football game we were at one time, too!) Genesis has a great catalogue of music, with Broadway and Seconds Out highly recommended.
Dried shrooms will last quite a while. I still have some from the nineties that still look ok. Fresh, if not consumed or dried quickly, they will spoil and put off a rather pungent odor like rotting flesh. Even in the refrigerator, they will only last about a week to 10 days, then they will rot.
Peter Gabriel, what can you say about this man, his concerts are unbelievable, such a production. Incredible.
Saw him twice in the 90's, once in 93 inside in an auditorium and the second time was at Woodstock 94.
The inside show at the orena in Orlando was as close to perfect as it can get. The show opens with a moody little instrumental piece and then it turns into Come talk to me, with Peter rising up from under the stage in a phone booth, he's singing and starts to pull on the phone cord, it pulls and he pulls and tugs and drags the phone line out of the booth down this long ramp that juts out into the audience, he pulls and tugs and yanks that phone cord till he's at the very end of the ramp, which is right in front of where we were sitting, he is now almost in our faces and the phone cord starts to pull back, as the song is finishing, the cord drags him all the way back, slowly, into the booth. And that was the first song. There were so many props that came up, a giant tree with many limbs rises out of the stage, and Peter and Paula cling to its branches while singing Shaking the Tree. During Steam Peter walks right down that ramp and once again he is in our faces, almost right in front of us. At the end, a briefcase is brought out from behind the stage, as the show is ending each band member walks to the briefcase, opens it and jumps in, disappearing into the briefcase. The absolute pinnacle of the show was Secret World, as the song played, a giant screen above the band began to rotate, spinning slowly at first, gathering steam and spinning fast. Then stopping as the song ends. Of all the shows that I have been to, this is definitely a top 5 show, if not top 3.
Peter will be on tour in Europe and England this spring, Daverock, if you get a chance, I highly recommend catching one of his shows it will blow your mind. There is a US tour in the works for after the European tour, I will be at one of these concerts if they are not too far away from me. It's been 20 years since he toured with a band outside of WOMAD.
Not a fan of Genesis, I have 3 sides live and it's not bad, just not what I listen to, so much to listen to, so little time, stereo going 16 hrs. a day pretty much now.
Last bunch of listens:
Mahogany Rush - Strange Universe
Jimi Hendrix - The Cry of Love
Robin Trower - For Earth Below
Randy California and Spirit - Future Games
Traffic - When the Eagle Flies
Spooky Tooth - Spooky Two
REO Speedwagon - REO T.W.O.
Peter Gabriel - Alive and Bumpin'
Peter Gabriel - OVO
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - 1997 Fillmore concerts live
Santana - Caravanservi
Santana - Borboletta
Jerry Garcia and Sanjay Mishra - Blue Incantation On Jan. 5th Jerry Garcia Music and Arts Label will release Front Street Outtakes which has Jerry and Sanjay outtakes from Blue Incantation
David Crosby - If I could only remember my name - It's all coming back to me now
Crosby Stills Nash and Young - 4 way street
so many others
Can anyone explain why it matters whether the item sells out? With any limited release it will eventually do so. If you want it you buy it and it doesn’t matter if it sells out. If you don’t want then you don’t buy it and why would you care if it sells out.
I can think of two reasons why you might care:
1. You haven’t got the money at the moment but will have shortly. In this case you don’t want it sell out quickly, but if your cash flow is that critical perhaps you shouldn’t be buying discs. You have known for several months when the release date was and could have saved enough to have it available when needed.
2. You have bought the item and you hope to make a profit by reselling it. In this case you are gambling on a future outcome. You win some and you lose some, this might be seen as capitalism in action.
25000 appears to allow enough leeway to allow everyone to get a copy if they want it. Presumably if they don’t sell so many the PTB will reduce the number they produce.
I’ll keep subscribing as long as they are issued, unless I run out of spare cash or stop breathing.
At least for me, I think I am simply trying to gauge it's popularity and am surprised when everyone else's likes or dislikes don't line up with mine. Which is silly really. If this site should teach me anything it's that there's room for all.
And in birding news there's a Sharp Shinned Hawk outside my window looking for breakfast at my feeders. This girl is a proven predator. Doves beware!
Brand X live…bet that was sweeett!
77 overkill: I know that’s my feeling. I mean I’ve enjoyed every great 77 show they have given us, (especially shhhwiiinnngg!) and I’m sure I’ll dig these 2 hot rods, but there’s so much awesome other stuff out there still and only so many releases left….
Hey, some folks are happy smoking the same brand of weed and beer day in and day out, some folks like to mix it up…
It’s all good, chever way your pleasure tends…
I think 25k is just the right number: they all still sell out eventually, but notice we haven’t heard anyone bummed that they missed out because it sold too quick.
PT, thanks for the intel! Lol, BITD I they were never around long enough to go bad!
I believe she said they were dried when she got them, so good news!
Think some “retired” folks might try a little bitty stem together and go play in the snow! Weeeeeeeee
Speaking of, shoveled yet another six inches (more up on top) over here on the western slope VGUY. We’re actually considered not in drought for the first time in…? course it’s still early so hopefully we’ll get more including the big dumps like we used to get in the spring 🤞
Mikey, how’s it going eh!
My Goodness what dicks: “ok, your not dead so we can sack ya now” Fuck Off greed heads!
Talk about a string of luck! Kinda like the Leafs ; ) teasing of course!
And Dennis, sorry to hear old sport. Just like the pranksters say “nothing lasts” and I will add “especially if it’s something you like” yaassss those old golden handcuffs are hard to shake! Good luck going forward…forward, never straight!
Yaasss, dug m/o GarciaLive 18 again last night, can’t get enough of jazzy Jer!
2/19/73 second set
Fog Hat: Fool for the City
Croz: If I could Only Remember my name
Nora Jones: Till We Meet Again
P/o Charlie Hunter: Songs From the Analog Playground
P/o Laughing Bones 4/2/06
M/o GarciaLive 18
Have had no tune time lately, so nice to catch up.
Today will be dedicated to tunage!
I also think of it as a way of guaging how successful a release is. Which can lead to speculation - which is most likely way off beam With this one, for example, I was wondering if it's ongoing availability suggests that a lot of people now feel they have enough of 1977, and aren't that interested in buying anymore. If it had been a show from the first half of the year, I might have passed it by
I can remember buying some fresh mushrooms, of the psychedelic variety, in London about 20 years ago. I popped the bag on top of my bookcase, for a rainy day, and a few days later......phwoar ! Smelled like something had died.
Last time I came across any.
I have completely lost touch with Peter Gabriel and his music, but I know someone who rates him very highly indeed. Maybe I should suggest going to check him out
And yes, some are real pricks
"I have completed my cancer treatments!"
"Uh, yer out, bro. Uuuuhhhh..."
I could go on for a long time...
Be strong, Dennis.
Hey Oro, how are things Amigo?
Leaf jokes! Ouch! I thought after the Bills folded like a pup tent on Everest…. ;)
At least your Sabres are pretty good this year, and they have the second greatest player to come out of Arizona in Tage Thompson.
Hope all is well!
Yeah that was some plummet from greatness early season to what ever da fug they ended at lol
Haven’t had time for tunes let alone hockey.
Whenever I watch they lose lol. AVs been struggling too…
Usually get more on board later in the season and NEVER miss the playoffs!
Be Well and stay warm up der in da great white north!
I keep getting scrolling ads on news sources for hot pink clothes and lingerie emblazoned with WAP
if you dont know, there was a little ditty on the pop charts recently subtlely titled WAP for Wet Ass Pussy
Why would I want clothing with that on it?
This is what happens if you access dubious internet content and accept cookies.
RIP Tom Verlaine. Loved Marquee Moon back in the day.
If I get anything, it should be HAD, as I can have one of those. My anantomy has never included a P, especially a WA one.
I dont accept cookies, as I am already officially obese.
What the fuck ever.
(They call my Abuelita BIZNATCH???)
Marquee Moon is now in the cue
A spectacular album.
Sex Pistols labelled as punk
Television labelled as punk
Only one is punk, you punk
Sex Pistols is punk
Television is rock
The trials of life, my dear reader
The one good reason I can think of to be concerned about a Dave's Picks not selling out is our long term release prognosis. There was a time when we waited a relatively long time between releases. I don't want to go back to those days. Regardless of why they're not sold out in a day, it's always better for us if the Grateful Dead release program is doing well. Who wants to see fewer releases per year? Not me.
I think the Dave's Picks sales have been impacted because they manufacture the 25K as already mentioned. This is a double whammy against them. I know that a large number of subscriptions were purchased by eBay resellers. Resellers are not doing as well for 2 reasons.
- The 25K saturates the eBay market, so the resellers don't make as much per unit, and they can't flip the product as quickly. This is usually a second business for people. Now resellers buy fewer subscriptions.
- The government passed laws that require eBay sellers to charge sales tax to buyers, as well as pay income tax on their sales. It was always a requirement to report eBay sales, but small pedlars were not doing this. Now eBay is required to report Seller income to the the IRS, so pedlars have no choice but to pay close to 50% of their profit to the IRS, eBay, and PayPal. And the cost of shipping has gone up.
This means pedlars are screwed. They need to charge 3x as much as they did a couple of years ago, and inflation is through the roof. The average Deadhead isn't go to pay $100+ for the new Dave's Picks.
Eventually the pain will trickle down to us. It won't be this year or next, but we've all been in this over the long haul, so when you add in the fact that there are lots of officially released shows from many years already, demand is on the down.
Dead and Co is also going away. Their touring helped drive sales. I'm not saying the Vault release program is going away, but maybe I am. I don't know anything about their contract with the Dead or their budget for new releases. What we all need to do is buy 2 subscriptions each year and will a set to our children. One day they will be true collectors items.
That’s what some people used to call Television. Because they knew more than three chords, played songs that lasted longer than two minutes, and didn’t wear safety pins through their cheeks, I guess. But they got called ‘punk’ in the mid-70s, along with Patti Smith, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, and a lot of other great bands who didn’t fit the stereotype. Because the stereotype hadn’t been invented yet.
It wasn’t till the late ‘70s/early '80s that “punk” came to mean three chords and a mohawk. When it first started, it basically meant you could do whatever you wanted. And it meant you wanted to reject the tired old bullshit that most arena rock bands were peddling and do something new. But when it started to become a “movement,” and people wanted to jump on the bandwagon, they found that it was fucking hard to come up with anything as original as Patti Smith or Television. That took talent. But it was really easy to get a buzz cut, buy a leather jacket, learn three chords, and imitate the Ramones. And eventually everybody sounded like the Ramones (who I love, btw) and the punk scene became even more rigidly conformist than mainstream rock.
Anyway … sad news about Tom Verlaine. He was a HUGE influence on so many, including me personally: back when I was learning guitar, two guys I copied the most were Garcia and Verlaine, precisely because they were different from everybody else, played scales most rock guys didn’t play, had a sense of time that was different than 99.9% of rock guitarists. Go listen to Verlaine’s solo on “Marquee Moon” and tell me Jerry wouldn’t have approved.
Don’t fret the relatively slow sell out of DaP 45. If the series was sustainable financially back when they were doing 12,000 copies, you can be sure that it’s still sustainable when they’re doing 25,000, even if it takes a few weeks, or even a few months to sell them all. Having a run of 25,000 that doesn’t sell out in a day just means more copies are going to people who actually love the music, at list price, as opposed to paying double or triple or quadruple or quintuple or sextuple that to the scalpers who’ve been leaching off everybody for years.
My prediction? The GD archival release program will go into warp speed overdrive for the next 5-10 years, trying to sell as much of the vault as they can before all of us dinosaurs who still buy physical media hit the boneyard. It’s going to be glorious. The releases, that is. The boneyard, not as much.
A truly original and exceptional guitarist. As Crow said, he used different scales to the ones practised by other guitarists at that time. Incredible tone too. It was pointed out at the time that he sounded more in the realm of Barry Melton and John Cippollina than the prog and heavy rock players of the time. "Marquee Moon " is the classic, but the follow up, "Adventure" is almost as good.
The American bands from the mid 70's grouped together as punk seemed to be ones that played regularly at CBGB's in New York. They were a refreshing antidote to stadium rock. As Joey Ramone once said, not country rock, blues, rock, jazz rock, prog rock or heavy rock....but rock rock. They seemed to take their lead from the so called garage bands of the mid 60's, commemorated on Lenny Kaye's brilliant "Nuggets" collection. The 13th Floor Elevators, The Standells, The Chocolate Watchband etc. Plus The Stooges and the MC5.
In England in 1976, punk was great at first. The first Ramones album, released that summer, I think, was the blue touch paper. I used to go to a dump called The Electric Circus in the backstreets of Manchester - very different from The Free Trade Hall-home of The Halle Orchestra, where I saw the likes of Genesis. I felt at home there for about 6 months. Not many people attended and it seemed to attract a motley collection of misfits like me. By mid 1977 it was jammed to the rafters with identikit "punks" who had jumped on to the band wagon. Short of hair and short of temper. Gangs of spitting, punching hooligans. The musical style was reduced to three chord blasts ripped off from The Ramones, but without their style or humour. Time for me to move on.
English punk hasn't aged well with me at all. Most bands I liked in the 70's, I still like - but not that. Apart from the first 4 Sex Pistols singles. Television, on the other hand, still sound great.