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    "Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

    As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

    Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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    Just beer me, dammit...

    I've actually largely given up beer, my preferred drink being fine whisky in the winter and vodka in the summer. However, certain situations still call for beer. Living in Colorado, the beer capital of the world, one has been overwhelmed with good fortune for decades now as the beer gods have been smiling down upon our plethora of outstanding craft breweries and their tasting rooms.

    I happened upon a media credential for the GABF (that's Great American Beer Festival, to the uninitiated) for the better part of ten years until 2018, which I took off, and 2019 which I attended as a civilian. We got into all the VIP events, tastings, after hours affairs, brunches and - most importantly - every session, four in all. Midway through day two, it took a little taste of the Peruvian just to keep powering through it all. Ah, those were heady times...

    There are so many beers in so many styles, the world of beer has become almost overwhelming. It's like wine now, where you have food pairings. After numerous sessions of focusing on fruit beers, or medal winners only, or regional favorites, I've come to the realization that my preferred beers are Short Line Lagers.

    That is, any big beer (8% or above only, please) that one can walk right up to and sample a pour. At the end of the day, those beers are as good as any. It's all subjective anyway.

    Cheers!

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    I used to drink Micky's Big Mouth when I was 16, before I knew better. I woke up one morning and about six hours of the night before had been magically erased.. what a bad feeling. Back then.. Heineken, Becks and Bass Ale were as good as you could get where I lived. At any price. Good beer was simply not available, nor was good coffee, good weed.. well I digress.

    I drink less beer now because it adds lbs too easily, still.. it is lower alcohol so it's good when I don't want to wake up with a headache. More red wine (good red wine) and unfortunately I have acquired a taste for really good tequila (extra anejo) and on rare occasions really good bourbons and every now and again good scotch. I really try to steer clear of liquor, but hey.. I'm human.

    I wish I drank less.. so far this year I am doing amazing well with restraint. There are a couple alternative items which I dare not mention or they will delete my posts again that are safer, non addictive and a hell of a lot less damaging to your body and mind. Unfortunately I am often too busy to get zonked out so they are fewer and farther between. Geeze.. I am not a fan of censorship, you end up masking what you say and write.

    Over and out.. have a great weekend all. Dipping my big toe back into 1977.. halfway through the June Winterland run. Man, there has been a lot of 77 released. 77 used to be my favorite year. I don't know.. 1977 is sort of like dating a supermodel.. it's great for a while but eventually you crave something that's imperfectly brilliant in it's own way, the '85 discussion is a perfect example, I might substitute '74 or '68. I have a high opinion of 1985, my opinion mirrors Angry Jack and Oroborous'.

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    Never drank OE800.
    But have had my share of Mickey’s Big Mouths.

    In 89 Schlitz (blue bull on label) came out with Red Bull (not the energy drink). Schlitz Red Bull was a higher alcohol version of the blue bull. You had to choke down about 1/3 of the bottle before the alcohol started to take effect and made you forget how bad it tasted.

    But then we found Midnight Dragon, $0.99/40 oz.....
    Wow, that stuff could take you places.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Beer talk

    Something to discuss during the lull in releases.
    A lot of us seem to like beer, and we are super lucky to have the huge variety of craft brews to enjoy. Funny that craft brew is only about 24% of the U.S. beer market. When I drink quality craft beer I pee out Miller Lite.

    Estimated-Eyes:
    Bell’s Bright White is just Winter White with a new name and label. That’s the wheat beer I drink when I can’t get Oberon.

    Slowdog Noodle:
    Drinking a 3 Floyd’s right now.
    When I was at Fare Thee Well I was at a beer store a few blocks west of Soldier Field. An employee was on the phone with someone who asked if they had any Zombie Dust and another employee said there was some in the back. I asked if I could have a 6-pack and they said yes. I didn’t drink alcohol during the show but as soon as I got back to McCormick Place I pulled one out of the fridge and it was awesome. Drank Zombie Dust and Oberon those nights after the shows.

    Sammy Smiths.
    Ice cold and $5 as you exited the venue. They were awesome then, but a few years ago I bought some and they pretty much sucked compared to what we are drinking now.

    Funny, I saw Jai Alai Fronton in Bolo’s message and knew it didn’t mean Happy New Years, and just figured he was being a prankster. Never clued in that it was a clue.

    Beer and small venues:
    Anyone remember the band Box Set in the 90’s? One of the members, Jeff Pehrson, later was a backup singer in Furthur.
    I saw Box Set play at Great Basin brewing in Sparks, NV in the late 90’s.

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    Any Olde English 800 is an over do. Liquid seconal.

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    Some story.. wow. Glad it all turned out ok. Were the rental units involved in the aftermath?

    Stoltzy.. ah, OE800 overdose. That could sour anyone. Honestly, I would probably be better off if the same happened to me..

    Aren't we due for the official DaP 33 roll-out complete w/ seaside chat, song listing and another episode of Distracted Dave, our beloved vested crusader.

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    Great clip of the band at Monterey. Wonder where that's been all these years?

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    *Re/ thanks & something new 🙏❤️😎

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0FsuN6sFPP5wnyG…

    🙏❤️😎 enjoy my brothers & sisters 💀🌹

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    Angry Jack, you are right about that Portland show. It was a gorgeous sunny day and then it snowed during the show. I remember it well because it was also my first show.

    Walking around town with the gathering fleet of other dead heads made quite an impression on me at 19. It was like some stoner wonderland.

    The band opened with Music Never Stopped, a song I knew from Blues for Allah, but I was such a novice that I remember wondering where the girl singer was. (Also, where was the sax?) Ha! Garcia's clear tone hit me right away, though, just delicately plucking at my limbic system.

    Between sets, we moved from the floor to some seats off to the side to meet up with some other friends. My roommate decided to eat more paper. Later, when drums started, he began walking up and down the stairs, looking a little anxious.

    When Space hit, he started jumping two or three rows down into some empty seats below us. Head first. Fortunately, he was a former high school gymnast and was still slender and wiry. So he somehow avoided injury. He must have done this three times before we could grab him. But we couldn't hold him long. When Day Tripper started, he took off into the portal out by the refreshment stands. He must have decided he was hot, because he started stripping off his clothes. He got down to his skivvies before the cops saw him and gave chase.

    Panicked, he burst through an exit door and into the snow. A cop tackled him and held him down by his arms. ( I was right behind them. Fully clothed.) My buddy still squirmed in resistance so the cop wadded up some snow and pushed it into my friend's face. Being a naïve white suburban kid, I grabbed the cop's arm. Somehow he didn't punch me. I even managed to convince him that I could calm my buddy down and the cop eased up a bit. At this point, though, my buddy was nearly catatonic, so the cop put us both into the back of his car - gently- and drove us to the hospital.

    I was worried about what was going to happen, but the ER docs put my friend in a back room and gave him Thorazine. About 30 minutes later, he was back to normal, if a little slow. Somehow, our other friends found us at the hospital and we managed to drive back to school at about 30 miles an hour through the snow.

    My buddy never saw another show or ate any more paper, but he turned out quite well. About 30 years later, he managed to sell the company he founded for over 75 million and retired at 52.

    I've revisited the show on you tube and while it doesn't hold up that well - the china doll was a total train wreck- Garcia does a little post china doll jam that is very interesting. And it definitely brought me back for more.

    Pardon for the long post.

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    I haven't had a beer since 1983

    a over-do with Old English 800 made beer (and alcohol in general) verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry unattractive.

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"Cause it's always like that with the Dead, you know - it's always the whole thing." - News Journal

As we close out the 2019 Dave Pick's series, we deliver on our promise to give you the "whole thing" with the complete performance from The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 3/24/73 and what a show it was! An upstanding "musical eulogy" to the recently departed Pigpen, the Grateful Dead conducted a potent study in contrasts on this bittersweet night. They found easy balance between tidy jams like "They Love Each Other," "Wave That Flag," "Playing In The Band," and introspective moments on "Stella Blue," "Sing Me Back Home," and a poignant "He's Gone." It was all laid down with a discipline and a polish unheard of in any of the truly exceptional shows that had come before it. Yes, you might say, they cleaned up nice to carry on the legacy as Pig would have wanted.

Limited to 20,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 32: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA 3/24/73 has been mastered to HDCD specs from the 7" and 10" reels by Jeffrey Norman.

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*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

... I was asked this question before right around the time before the shipments went out and I shared have the same opinion ,so did thedeads team before production. Whaat is the running time is it four minutes and 10 seconds is it four minutes and eight seconds four minutes and seven seconds or minutes and three seconds lol primo Post andbthinking sixtus &keithfan! ;)...Rock On my Brothers and sisters have a grateful day God bless 🙏❤️😎💀🌹

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There is little doubt in my mind that if the 4 minute passage had come before the 20 minute jam that it would have been tracked as a 24 minute Dark Star

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I find myself listening to the November 1973 Winterland box the most. I know there are only 3 shows, but I tend to gravitate towards this run more than any other!! The cold part of fall has arrived here in Rhode Island!! Have a good weekend everyone..... 11/9/73 Going on one day early!!! Bob t

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SMBH; love that song, Merle’s is great but I think Jer makes it his own and thus takes it to another level.
It’s like watching old yeller, how the hell can you really listen to this, especially after some psychedelic, emotional roller coaster space voyage, and not get choked up. Like Jim said about third person....imagine you’ve spent that kind of time with another human being, no matter what their crime, and so you’re kinda going through all that with the person, truly heavy shit, which is powerful to imagine. I understand some folks might not be comfortable with such heaviness, and yes the guy did a terrible thing, but hey, isn’t that the one thing ALL humans have in comman....we’re all fuckups and do horrible things to each other? So to stand in that persons shoes emotionally for a few minutes is really powerful. To offer that tortured soul that one “kind favor” in spite of what he did, isn’t that also what makes us human, that ability to be em empathetic, to forgive, to occasionally be “truly excellent to each other”?
To me the juxtaposition between all that heaviness with such awesome, powerful, and emotional vocals etc, phew, gives me goosebumps just talking about it! I’ve said before, one of the things that makes the Dead so great is their use of dynamics. The ebb and flow between all that R&R energy and the power, and emotion of the ballads. The ridiculous loudness balanced by the quietness. That to me is it right there, their ability to be so quite that it’s loader, and more powerful than the loudest, most balls out rocker! Perhaps Dew is the best example, though you could through Stella and others in that mix...and the lyrical content, not too many smoochy syrupy sappy crap, real intellectual stuff, real meat and potatoes, shit to make you think! Real thinking, something truly lacking these days...
Also, besides the back story of how prison changed Merle, Johnny Cash Playing there while Merle was there supposedly had a huge influence on him too. I guess sometimes you get shown the light in the strangest of places.....
VINCE; too funny! You know the more I listen to Vince, the more I’m opening up to him. I think a lot of my indifference to him was because of those often cheesy sounds that weren’t his doing but Braloves. That and I’m sorry to offend any aficionados, but I couldn’t stand Way to go Home. One of a few in the late days that I wasn’t a fan of...
But what I meant to say was I was disappointed because when I saw Kids post I was thinking “our” Vince, that’s right folks the one and only Vguy! I’d give up my front row seat in Hell to see a video of OUR Vince playing WPOD! Lol
CASEY JANES; .....and so it begins😉
Well, hopefully I can finally check out 32 tonight, it’s been a very long week and ole uncle Pedro needs to go bye, bye for a few hours and I’m hoping number 32 will do the job!
Hope all y’all have a great weekend!

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November 8, 2019

1969 (Dick's Picks 16 - MONSTER 2nd Set, Dark Star Medley.. if you don't know it, you deserve to. You'll thank yourself later.)

1979 (Cap Center - My good friend's 1st show, 40 years ago. Check out the SUPER slow Stagger Lee, solid Scarlet>Fire, Brent's first Dew, and I believe the only one played in 79... it's def. different, in a good way I think :)

1985 (War Memorial, Rochester - The one I am listening to now... great sounding AUD! Seriously,... if you don't think you like AUDs, check this out! I'll post the link below. Great energy, Jerry in fine form, a little sloppy, very interesting set list, including the rare Brent tune "Baby What You Want Me To Do", a "Revolution" 2nd set opener, and an absolutely GORGEOUS "She Belongs to Me" - If you check out anything from this day in GD history, this "She Belongs to Me" should be first on the list. Why did they drop this song so quickly? - also, anyone else notice that they tended to play good/great shows at the War Memorials? Rochester, Buffalo, and in honor of Veteran's Day, New Haven -- though not technically called War Memorial...)

https://archive.org/details/gd85-11-08.aud-oade.dwonk.22023.sbeok.shnf/…

1987 (Oakland - admittedly, 87 is a year I know little about, but this show certainly looks good on paper, and I listened to yesterday's 87 show, and it was really good. This one has an Iko opener, and a rare Tom Thumbs Blues encore.)

Oh, and there is a Jerry Band from 76 that was released as GarciaLive Vol. 7

Not a lot to choose from, but all choices are solid. And it's a Friday... it's a good day :)

Peace, and have a great weekend everyone!

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I have had an email telling me #32 has shipped. No indication of how so I can’t currently try to track it, at the worst it should be with me by early December. I am looking forward to hearing it.

On a separate point. I was a long time subscriber to a UK based magazine fRoots which finally closed down this summer after 40 years writing about folk and roots music from around the world. The editor, for the whole 40 years, Ian A Anderson has been hit by a large cash demand from the banks which after 40 years of dedicated promotion of so many musicians and types of music seem harsh. A GoFundMe has been set up to help pay the debt. If anyone has a spare few dollars they could do worse than assist him. The address is below.

www.gofundme.com/help-ian-a-recover-after-froots

Let’s hope for some more great GD music next year.

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Thanks for the observation about SMBH. I just got the pick in the mail so I'm not there yet, but I'm looking forward to the 3rd disc in particular, and I love the context you put the song in. So interesting how bands like the dead and phish can change your perspective on a song you thought you knew just by setting it up in a particular way in the set list.

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Yass, yass, yasss twas a fine evening, that turned into my Bday...
Great fun, did the fungal high step in front of the SB, although one of the 2 nights I was front row for the first set?
We basically owned the nearby hotel those 2 nights. Seemed like we knew everyone that was staying there and TPTB left us all alone. Listened to 84 Rochester yesterday at work for the first time.....better than I recall, not a bad show. Unfortunately don’t remember much....maximum veggie overdrive in the front row!
Thanks for the link, that’ll get me through today. Perhaps that 11/8/69 monster tonight, then, finally, 32 tomorrow?
But of course the great 73 box anniversary this weekend also....so much great Dead, so little time!

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Man, sounds like a nice time! Oh to actually have that Wayback Machine up an running...

Reminds me of a time in Hershey, PA where the entire hotel was filled with heads after a Phish show... we didn't have a room, but there were so many funky looking people in and out and about all night, we were able to catch winks in a conference room, as long as one or two of us was a lookout, sleeping in shifts. Oh, to be a teenager again...

Have a great weekend, my man!

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Powered by member berries...dammit Jim, hell with the beard be gone, when you going to market that way back machine 😃

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From my experience of life, people who are convicted of murder are not necessarily any better or worse than those who aren't. Two people I remember particularly-a woman who killed her abusive partner, and a man who killed someone who had been sleeping with his wife. As I understood it, neither planned it. Drugs, alcohol, anger...I don't condone violent behaviour, but it surely helps to try and understand people rather than condemn them out of hand. By convicting them, the law has already done that.

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Dave has the Dark Star>Stella Blue from 7/25/74 on this weeks Tapers Section... I just noticed myself

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What time is house warming tomorrow?? I'm down in R.I. Both kids in college... Bob t

Reminds of the 28 minute Jam on disc 3 of Dicks Picks 12 (6/28/74 Boston Garden). To me.. it's one big Dark Star hold the vocals.

When I heard the seaside chat language on the long jam into the short Dark Star, I thought.. the Dark Star Jam's in the beginning this time and didn't give it another thought. How many E72 versions are there where they don't start singing until like 20 minutes into it?

Ok.. helavu week here, and I am now freezing my ass off. I think I am going to warm up the headphone amp, hit the hot tub and watch the sun set.. add in freshie listen of The Spectrum, some of Washington's finest and welcome a well deserved start to the weekend.

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Dap32- Jam just melds so quick into D.S. that it's over before you can enjoy it. I still think bertha is a great one on this Dap. Warts and all. p.s.- thanks jim.

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Sounds mighty fine Jim. I've got to go host the outlaws for drinks and dinner. Not the end of the world but its no splif in the hot tub in front of the sunset either. Whichever way the cat jumps I'll be listening to the dead at some point tonight though. I hope everyone's enjoying the new Spectrum show. I'm loving it - and only through Tenn Jed so far.

I must make special mention of the Look Like Rain. What a great version.

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it seems like this Dark Star is, instead of the genie emerging from the bottle first, the genie is slowly returning to the bottle.

FAR OUT.

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Good prospective.

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Just as predicted. He dropped in after it actually arrived and all the sudden the simple question that we got the runaround answer for over a week ago is all the sudden plain as day easy to comprehend and answer straight. Day late and a dollar short as usual.
This is embarrassing please just stop.

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One point twenty one jigawatts!!! One point twenty one jigawatts!!!

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I feel ridiculous for asking because I thought someone would say something already. It's driving me pickles so out with it. Is the one drum REALLY loud? I don't know if it's my old speakers or something universal.

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Carlo you are a funny dude.

Mind-Left-Body I hear you man, what a fool. All the sudden a precise answer is given 2 weeks later after nobody needs the info anymore. Who would even think to post the answer at this point in time anyway. What is the mindset right? Oh, the current discussion reminded me that I didn't answer the question the last time around. I don't think so. I think it's more like, now I have the information, maybe nobody will remember.

Hippiechick, it's the kick drum yeah. Loud. How come you don't answer my dirty calls anymore?

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Right, it needed to be said. Mabey everybody just forgot. It has been 10 days.

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Am I the only one still waiting? I’m still waiting...I’m still waiting...still waiting...still....

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If I had to guess, this is probably what Jim is missing in order to get the way back machine working....1.21 Jigawatts and a Flux Capacitor. Then you have to bring it up to 88mph of course...

He’s a wolf...dire though he may be, the mindset is that of a predator

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I think c.janes is right. the jigawatts clue that poped into my head then into c.janes noggin might just be the power you so desperately need to go back in time to whatever it is you need to fix.....
Man, do I need hobby or what?

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How do you remove a whole comment. It only edits, but does not remove it completely.

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I noticed it says on the FAQ section there's a a 3 to 5 week delay on domestic orders for in stock items. At least it says this so I know not to worry about the charge or getting this sweet box.

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50 years ago tonight I was at The Fabulous Forum in Inglewood CA for my first Rolling Stones show...co-bill was BB King, Ike & Tina Turner & Terry Reid...two shows that night that ran late because of an afternoon sporting event...Terry was dropped from the 2nd show yet we still got home just before Sunrise...if I knew how to post a photo I'd attach the LA Times concert ad to this...it was my 19th Birthday, what a way to celebrate, which of course makes today my 69th...ouch....where's the Geritol?

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Hey guys, maybe you should let it go. There are a lot of honest dead heads on this site, that is for sure. Impossible to verify everything. Keep the faith for the good ones, you know who they are.

Bob T. Love the Winterland 73 box set, so good, and how about a three song encore on the closing night. I know we would have killed for that closing in the 80s.

Keller Williams & S.C.I.~Breathe
Phil Lesh & Friends~There And Back Again Bonus Disc
Phish~Billy Breathes
Grateful Dead 1991-06-16 Giants Stadium
Gov't Mule 2018-10-31 Clyde Theater~Fort Wayne,Indiana
:O)

32 is on deck...

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....THEE best Phish studio record. 👍
Because it has Waste on it.

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Some o my favorite Phish on this one.
Vguy may be correct on this.
~Free
~Character Zero (my personal favorite...)
~Taste
~Cars Trucks Buses
~Billy Breathes
:O)

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....Waste.
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no bad song representing.
Rift is great as well.

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Joy, joy to ole Nappy! That musta been one hell of a night! I just did 11/8/69, phew, that one covers a lot of ground. Perhaps THE transitional axis show? 11/8/85 at work today thanks to Otis!
ROTARY PHONE; too funny, that’s one of the things I kept of my Mothers after she passed 3 years ago, her rotary on Wall Phone that was in her kitchen until right before we sold the place. I plan to eventually at least hang it somewhere (if not hot it up) as not only a remembrance, but to honor her Luddite self!
Old Lee Estee and the gang used to be able to pump out a few gigiwatts on some nights! If only we could bottle the shit!
WAY BACK/SIXTUS and the gang; now if only Jim had that damn way back working he could swing by and pick us up and get us back to the Start of the Sixtus house warming shin dig!

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Thanks vguy. I did that once (the 2 asterisks) but I was embarrassed it was a rookie way to delete post but now I feel (less) of a dolt thanks to you.

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....*

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....a new word for me.

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Stephen kings the dark tower had a city called Lud. Creepy.

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It must have been amazing to see them ( indoors) in 1969 - and with B.B. King and Ike and Tina Turner in support too. Get Yer Ya Ya's Out has never dated.
Having said that, I don't think I'll be rushing out to get the new super deluxe bells and no whistles 50th anniversary edition of Let It Bleed .

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According to the Guardian newspaper this morning, there is a cassette revival taking place in Britain at the moment. Apparently, "Cassettes give every album an overture of clunk and rattle, and they confer a strange, transgressive mastery on the listener:" Also..."if you decide you don't like the music, you can just record over it with something better." Fancy that.

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