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Joined:Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
- Oroborous
Joined:Berry interesting!I didn’t know about it being a King B, thought it was local FM etc?
So again, oh boy, come Dave WTF!
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Yeah captcha needs to get fired!
I’ve “failed” several times lately when I was correct and it was not!
Like minivans being considered busses, cars that are in frames but captcha misses, etc
“Captcha, yer fired” in best dumpster fire voice..lol - bluecrow
Joined:Yes - MulitisAs memory served, I've thought for a few years that I'd read reference to multitracks for 7/18. So just now did a little search and came across post on deadthinking blog from 1/24/16 on the July '76 Orpheum run. first comment is from a reliable contributor, Light In Ashes, that Dave L. himself has said that they have multitracks for the show. As you know the show was broadcast nationally on King Biscuit flower Hour and I think King Biscuit shows were recorded in multitrack as a matter of course?
Gonna have to dust off my copy of DaP 18 plus bonus disc from previous 2 nights and which contain some of my favorite released music from that era. Super way way out there and cool.
recapcha was a real pain in the a** this morning - very drawn out, and at times super lousy pictures - missed once and I'm like what am I not seeing. - Oroborous
Joined:Multi?Is there multis…ooohhhh, “that would be something, really would be something…”
Yeah, as I mentioned, I got the scalpel out this time and there is some hum at times (in left channel) and I think JGs guitar distorts at times, unless I’m thinking of a previous night?
The track changes are sometimes kinda abrupt too, maybe to edit out pesky radio announcers/station ids etc?
Oh, and the sound stage is flipped compared to every other previous show from the year?
I only went with “my” version, but you had me at multis lol
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Come on Dave, why oh why are you hoarding ANY good multitracks at this stage of the game, and don’t just dump it on PD, those deserve more, WE deserve more! Lol
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And, if your gonna make us do recaptcha, PLEASE maybe make the images big enough so blind old people can see it, especially on a tiny device, THanks - bluecrow
Joined:Neophyte High to a GrasshopperI like that! 7/18/76 it shall be! Had a fine tape of Set II bitd but its been ages. Gonna spin the Charlie Miller remaster of the KSAN pre-FM.
Edit - wow that Scarlet!!
Edit - did a cursory A/B with Ashley Bertha remaster and think I like that a touch better. Interestingly sound stage is mirrored for the two? Ultimately a buzz/hum/pre-FM or no are moot points when we get an official release from the multitracks, right??!! - Oroborous
Joined:7/18/1976Been a favorite since I was a neophyte high to a grasshopper!
One of my earliest tapes and this show just keeps getting better!
I thought back in 77 or whenever I got the tape, that this was how they were supposed to sound all the time!
Has the precision and well rehearsed, well played, majesty of the years previous shows, but after slowly working some jams back in, have cumulated in a veritable monster of quick, tight, precise segways and a desert island second set sequence not easily topped!
You get some nice freshy, not overly played numbers at the time like 1/2 Step, Minglewood, Loser, a sweet Candyman as well as excellent versions of the standard fare from June July 76. I let you discover for yourself…
Now I don’t recall a dud in the bunch from Boston all the way through the Orpheum, and the consistency is rock solid, but as could occasionally be the case with the dead, sometimes the first sets though very good, were maybe just a tad less enthusiastic for lack of better word. Some I like to call creepers. They start out ok, but slowly build up to a set closing peak, followed by an excellent, more exuberant second set.
Not the case here. This beast has a top notch first set and a second set to die for.
A prime example of the tight precision, and a always favorite moment, is when they slam back into LIG after one of those neat brief mini drum interludes with such force and precision it’s startling (at volume at least lol) even being familiar for decades. Oh, love JG calling the audible for St Stephen though you can hear Phil is totally heading for Stella Blue…so many moments, so much going on as their in one of those awesome super tight phases when they really listen to each other, tossing subtle cues around, to see what sticks etc…Only thing my greedy ass could add is imagine if there were one of the superb 76 Crazy Fingers and the H/S/F sequence somewhere lol hey, told ya I was greedy!
But enough of my pontificating, get right and become one with one of perhaps the best GD shows of all time!
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Oh, about sources.
I’ve had a good copy from something my cousin picked up on that South American river several years ago called GD SF 1976 The Orpheum Theatre Broadcast on 3 CDs.
Now I’ve stated that this copy is good enough that selfishly/greedily, I’d rather not have it officially released to save the pick for something else. But after giving it more of the scalpel this go round, and knowing there’s Betty’s of at least the last three shows (we know DaP 18 is fo sho) and knowing how ridiculously good many of the gussied up, released Betty’s are…well, I bet I could learn to live with it ; )
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Ok, hoping some will give this one a deep spin or two or three and report back…in the spirit of POTD with DISCUSSION!
Onward!
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In the spirit of “SeventySixtus”, think of it as your patriotic duty ; ) - Forensicdoceleven
Joined:Not knowing anything is the sweetest life......Good morning rockers!!
Pick of the day? Go no further than Kirkwood, Missouri on May 14 1970. Why? Well.......you know.........May 1970.................
Been avoiding the 58 thread. Why? Well............you know....................
I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there.......
Rock on,
Doc
Being at ease with not knowing is crucial for answers to come to you..... - Shimanto
Joined:I agree on picking something…I agree on picking something and listening together. I have a big collection of Lossless recordings a good many of which are HD. I have Apple Music, a Dave’s Picks subscription and all. Why would I need a subscription to Play Dead? I got one just to check it out. Good God! Even though I am familiar with HD, I have a good DAC, amp, speakers etc. so I know the benefits of HD. Play Dead has blown me away and I haven’t even put it through the DAC yet. I have just been listening via USB in the car and with wired Apple earbuds. I don’t know if it is only in my head or what. It all sounds so great, I can’t believe it. Today 4/24/78 and Workingman’s 50th. It is like the heavens opened up and gave me a new form of music. Is this happening to anyone else or am I having some kind of freak out? It is so amazing. Every note is so clear. Phil’s bass is so detailed. I need a reality check to be sure I am not losing it.

Still waiting for marye to chime in....
....as moderator, we should all value her opinion. Hello Mary?
Picks
Please give the date of the show, not just the release identifier.
My shows are organized by date.
Thanks.
Edit:
Just figured out what DP22 is. I listened to those shows a few weeks ago and so will pass.
Pick of the Day
Snowed here in WI, too. Yet, I finished the lawn raking. Go figure. Are you sure it wasn't Graupel (snow pellets)?
Slave to the system?....
....got the Galaxy S20+ at the beginning of March. My old phone was circa 2014. Was time for an upgrade. Came with an early order credit of $150. Used that towards Buds+'s. Testing them now during 2.23/24.68 Tahoe. Not bad.
Then I heard about all the 5G shit. Can't win for losing i guess.
RT 3.1
RT 3.1. Fun to revisit this one - been a long long time. Totally forgot that it had that awesome Terrapin > Playing. BITD I had a cassette from a friend who labeled it "Terrapin > Playing > Jam > Yikes!!" At one point it seems like Brent was channeling his inner Ned Lagin (fully approve!)
Looking forward to visiting Santa Fe later today. Never given that legendary show a deep listen. Anybody got rec as to what source? Notice that there's an Usborne matrix.
Pick of the day reminds me of a college literature class - 4 days in and it feels like already a week behind. Tahoe is gonna have to wait.
Wichita - real bounce in their step whole show. I think '72 is my favorite "era" for Other One. Some really great Keith piano in there. Always sweet when they drop from one of these into some slow heartfelt beauty like Brokedown. When are we gonna get 9-28-72?
February 22 to 24, 1968 at King's Beach Bowl, Lake Tahoe
If I told you all that went down it would burn off both of your ears.
Viola Lee Blues 19:15 pure bliss
Hurts Me Too 4:13
Dark Star 6:49 nice transition>
China Cat Sunflower 4:38 best ever?
The Eleven 10:33 fantastic
Turn On Your Lovelight 12:40 nice little boogie
Born Cross-Eyed 2:32 yes
Spanish Jam 7:23 wow
Morning Dew 8:10 nice
Good Morning Little Schoolgirl 14:39 sweet blues jam
That's It For The Other One 8:13 okay
New Potato Caboose 9:08 Heavenly
Alligator 3:45 okay
China Cat Sunflower 4:14
The Eleven 7:17
Alligator 6:39 oh yeah, an 11 jam
Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) 11:49 see that train a comin', wow excellent!!
Feedback 4:55
Feb 1968 Jerry played a - Gold-top Les Paul with P-90 single coil p/u's. 3 Twin Reverbs, 2 Fender 4x12 cabinets, JBL D120 speakers
Santa Fe source....
....this one sounds good.
edited, because the Seamons matrix sounds better.
9/10/83
Stoked, unfortunately have to make a death run first; ACE for varnish, and PO. Don’t ya know almost finished with more book shelves for Lovey and I’m out of Varnish, Doooaahh! At least it’s pre-order curb side. PO I’m afraid I might have to go in and stand in line for a package (clothes for her, to go to a wedding, that we already dropped non refundable mucho dineros, that were probably not going to be able to attend).....
But I’ll be firing that up this afternoon once I have the goods....going to try the Siemens matrix. Never been as enamored with SB recordings as most. I feel there is nothing like a good matrix, more natural sounding....
The Seamons matrix....
....actually does sound better boros. Thanks!✌
https://archive.org/details/gd1983-09-10.139379.mtx.seamons.ht112.flac16
Opens with Music Never Stopped. Bobby botches half the lyrics, but, as usual, the boyz make up for it with a smoking end jam.
TLEO follows. Jerry and Brent in SYNC!! Thats my wedding song btw. 20 years strong!
I really, really dig these two shows.
Minglewood->China Cat->IKYR....
....to end the first. Storm clouds were rolling in and rumor has it, this show had one of the longest set breaks of all time. Waiting for the weather. Pics show that they didn't have a covering over the stage, just the rigging (see my avatar). The China Rider segue is bopping!! Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.
09/10/83 Santa Fe Downs
Music, holy crap, energy of a set 2 opener; TLEO, nice pace mellow and jammy; Esau, it's nice; Big RR and BIODTL fast songs didn't work here(maybe a Bird Song or Row J.); Tenn Jed back on track; Minglewood, smoking; China>Rider rockin' nice transition, wish I was a headlight...
Woman R, nice energy; Cumberland, foot stomping, Phil bombs; Playin, really nice jam; China Doll, beautiful; Jam Drums, Space really great; TOO, trembled and exploded; GDTRFB, OMSN, rockin'; CR&S the only time they encored with CR&S.
Second set public service announcement from Bobby....
...."If its any comfort to anyone, on this date in 1890 in Cairo Illinois, it rained fish."
https://www.loc.gov/everyday-mysteries/item/can-it-rain-frogs-fish-and-…
Lolololol.
For the record, the fact that there is a second set Cumberland with bombs never swayed my opinion of this show. 😜
Lost Sailor tease prior to Playin'....
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Well...
Had some family issues to deal with the last couple days, so I'm behind a bit. Halfway through RT 3.1, hope to get through the rest of that one and Santa Fe by tomorrow morning. Kinda fun listening to shows that haven't been in the rotation for a few years. SO much good stuff - we are blessed indeed!
All good things....
....in all good time Bolo. Hope all is well. Meanwhile, Phil is laying some serious brickwork towards the project that is PITB.
Fast tempo show....
....the only ballad in the second set was China Doll. Albeit played at 1.5× speed, the outro jam is delicious. More Lost Sailor teases from Bobby during space with a dash of Heaven Help The Fool.
At the 9:10 mark they finally decide on The Other One. 9:10 mark. I still don't believe in coincidences. Cool Space.
GDTRFB....
....to be honest, I can't remember the last time I actually listened to one. Shame on me.
Only Cold Rain encore ever....
....and it gives me chills. Wonderful!!!
Phil steps up to Bobbys mic at 4:36.
Thanks for playing. See yall later.
9.11 up next, because why not?
Double Dose....
https://archive.org/details/gd1983-09-11.131805.mtx.remix.dusborne.flac…
The second day at the Downs....
....features a raucous Greatest Story and an early Hell In A Bucket that was just spreading its wings. Good stuff.
Still enjoying the ride. Kinda bumpy lately, but enjoying nonetheless.
West LA up. One of the most covered songs by them, because West LA.
Saw a picture of LA today. No smog. Actually a beautiful looking city.
"We stopped over....
....in Santa Fe." Slight chills.
And who doesn't like a lilting Althea?....
....fight me.
Grateful Dead and New Mexico
One of the high points of my life. Turbo Tom drove down from Kiowa, Montana , picked me up where I was living north of Taos and we made our way to the Santa Fe Downs. We camped next to the parking area where the Hog Farm was helping out. The Sikhs were security (Akal Security) for the Downs. Both days were amazing. And it was harvest season. The two shows were far from sold out. Many of the old guard long hairs from northern New Mexico were in attendance. Just thinking about those two concerts is like a memory from the Golden Eternity.
I’m most of the way through the first set. Earbuds , iPhone and cell tower signal up in the mountains to access this.
Great call V-guy 72!
An Epic Let It Grow!!...
....so, so good. Peace Strider. I try.
North of Taos? Questa or Red River?
I know your reading this Mr. Lemieux....
....they played three shows there. These two, plus a one off in '82. On off as in no tour. 13 song first set if I recall correctly. Just decided to pop into Santa Fe. Plangent it and box it and ship it.
I'll pay $99.99 US dollars.
Alaska would work too. I'll pony up three moose pelts.
Truckin'....
....back home where I belong. Yup. Vitamin C and cocaine.
Taos County
When I moved down from Montana in January 1982 I lived ten miles north of Taos on north Hondo Mesa in the “kiva” in the Grow-hole. (Built by the alternative school the Taos Learning Center TLC in the early 70s) Lived in a tipi and then the “Pyramid Cube” on El Salto Mountain for the next five years. Spring of 1987 I moved to Grant County and worked trails in the Gila. Also have worked many years up in Gallup. (Trail work and Public Radio)
Another side bar on the Santa Fe Dead shows. The state penitentiary is just a couple miles from the Santa Fe Downs. Bobby Petersen (Unbroken Chain, Pride of Cucamonga) arranged with the authorities at the prison to transmit a low wattage FM signal live broadcast direct from the Downs. Bobby used to live on Lama Mountain up in Taos County not to mention Robert Hunter spent time living on Canyon Road in Santa Fe in the 60s and visited Taos at different times. And contrary to rumors , the Dead did not play at New Buffalo Commune in the 60s. I asked one of the founders last summer , Rick Klein who helped start Buffalo in 67 that very question. Not the Dead but the Eagles played at New Buffalo. Also Laird Grant (Jerry’s longest time friend) used to live at Morning Star above Arroyo Hondo.
The skies are the most consistently clear of pollution day after day for the past three weeks than for the better part of the past 40 plus years. And I’m talking the mountain west.
That's cool as fuck Strider....
....northern NM does have energy. The Taos hum proves that. Gallup was always a pit stop for me.
9.11.83 has a Morning Dew.
Where have all the people gone today??
US Blues....
....your telling me! I'm still alive. It ain't no luck, I learned to duck.
Making lasagna.
Next Pick
Good work Vguy.
Looking forward to the next pick.
This has been a fun week, good idea Bolo.
Be well people.
Did you catch the Shakedown Stream?
Pretty cool. Dave, can't sit still. He mentioned 50-70 or so high quality video in the Vault from 89-95. Intriguing to me, not sure if they will put any more of it out, but I would love to see it. Man, how about putting out the Spring 90 Tour on video? I would volunteer to help out on that project.
Dicks 22
Should not have passed this one by.
ps Feb '68 this is what I think heaven must be like.
Great stuff!
Been working in the garage last few days and the energy from both DP 22 and 9/10/83 has made things fly by!
Gave Santa Fe another listen last night because I was diggin it and wanted to give it a better listen than the first time. Great 83 show, fun, spirited show with interesting sets. Might just give the next night a spin today while I work.
Guessing perhaps partially why that China-rider is in overdrive might be due to the deluge that was obviously happening as Bob says something like “we’ll be back when it stops raining”. I might contribute the pace solely to “other” things except it’s not like all the songs were that fast and it wasn’t right after break? So to go from normal 83 tempo to warp drive just then, and since they didn’t have full canopy etc, makes me think they were trying hard to get the fug outta there lol.
Santa Fe '83
I like 9/10 a little better both are great. There are two grate audience recordings of these shows in hi-rez maybe a matrix box.
Tripping the Light Fantastic
China Cat Sunflower / I Know You Rider had me dancing in the dark last night. Gonna listen to the second set today. You know, land of manana , New Mexico stylie. Damn this is a long set break!
Social Listening
May I make a suggestion inspired by Bolo's idea? I think a "Pick Of The Week" is more workable. I think one person should make the selection and at the same time designate the next picker. So on Monday let's say JiminMd makes a pick and names the next picker who will announce his pick the following Monday and the next picker etc etc. Hey I know I'm in social isolation at least through May and I think Bolo's idea is great but it needs some structure. I also know I've been drinking and I have no idea if anything I've said makes any sense. Also I just finished 4/11/72 and I think it's probably the weakest show of the tour.
Pick of the week - mhammond
That appeals to me a bit more. I am still following my own unplanned trail through shows, so the pick of the day was on top of what I was already listening to. The result was I got left behind straight away and decided to drop out. A weekly pick would obviously give us more time, and wouldn't intrude on where we feel we are supposed to go.
Great idea Mhammond
Another vote for Mhammonds idea. Gives us all a chance to give these the attention they deserve. Goddamn work has been interfering with my listening sessions :-)
Long Set Break
Maybe finish 2nd set today. 9/11/83 was amazing also.
Happy Easter! Be safe everyone.
Pick of the day participation is optional
I listened to 12-28-79 a day late and haven’t done the others so far.
Looks like I have 9-10,11-83 on a HD but they haven’t migrated to my music player yet. Might do that later today, but first yard work calls.
For my easy-listening, coffee-drinking routine to get today going I went with 10-10-80 Acoustic.
But that just finished.
So onward with 1-24,25,26-69 % which is compiled from the AOXOMOXOA-50th bonus disc, AOXOMOXOA-Golden Road Box filler, and a portion of Live Dead. Such things are possible with my collection because I organize by show date, not by the arbitrary order that shows are released.
Pick of the Day
I think we only had 3-4 picks last week. Now that we are through the Holiday, maybe we could get back at it. Seems like every other day is doable for most. Either way we need a new pick from someone. I already had one last week. Would like us to stick to official releases. Just my thoughts.
Be well people.
Today’s Pick
12-2-73, part of DP14
The remainder of DP14, 11-30-73%, can also be done as extra credit.
4/15/70 Winterland
Not like I’m a regular here, but did jump in at (under)ground level. 50 year anniversary , 30 Trips around the Sun. Winterland. What’s not to love. “ let me hear you say; WAAAAA!!”
12/2/73 - Today's Pick
Just started :)
I've always preferred this part of the pick to the 11/30 portion (which isn't to say the first part is any slouch!) I think a part of it is that "Morning Dew" always seems to work better as a closer than an opener, at least for me. The second disc of this portion (or disc 4 of the set,) is just exactly perfect!
Happy Listening!
EDIT: Oh yeah, this is the show where Phil hassles the guy in the audience - "Who are you? The heat? Someone shine a light on this guy..." Kind of a jerk..
Peace
Love the Wharf Rat
Grate Set2 opener which then slides into a Half-Step.
Out of chaos comes order
Mind Left Body Jam.....
How many of you were listening to the radio last night!!
Wharf rat to start set ii
I’m going for extra credit
11-30-73% playing now
Yeah, this is just as good as I remember...
I had to take a break for some work related conference calls just as Weather Report was moving into Let it Grow, but I picked back up and am now into "Nobody's Fault" jam territory. This was a great release of a great show! As I mentioned, I prefer this one to 11/30, but I think I will have to def. go back and hit some of those highlights (maybe all of disc 2,) after this.
That being said, it is really hard to beat this second set, that though very short, contains some FAR OUT there stuff... Wharf Rat, Playin, He's Gone, Truckin, Stella, Dew - all heavyweights in my all-time favorite GD tunes list.
Good choice, IceCream!
Peace
(EDIT: Whoops, I forgot 1/2 Step - another gem!)
Split the Difference...
Matrix of 12/1/73 - the show Dick forgot.
https://archive.org/details/gd1973-12-01.124132.mtx.dusborne.flac16/gd7…
It's got a "Sugaree", a "China>Rider", and a "Playin'>UJB>Playin'" - and so far, this Matrix sounds pretty darn good. I've never listened to this show, so it's a treat :)
I suppose this is for those students that not only want extra-credit, but are looking to write a master's thesis, or simply polish them apples into a 110%.
Peace
EDIT: After LLR, Phil says to the crowd "Be quiet over there, can't you see our piano players trying to tune up?" Seriously, what crawled up his %%# during this run?
Otis, you get a gold star and a smiley face
Nice job on over achieving.