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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • January 31, 2023 - 12:49pm
    DeadVikes
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    Thanks Doc, I will add it to the list for this week. Still working my way through the 73 shows.

  • January 31, 2023 - 1:19am
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    Hey there rockers!!

    Pick Of The Day: The Warehouse, New Orleans January 31, 1970

    The events that begat Truckin’, a well known day in Grateful Dead lore. LOL the revolution is over, everybody go home, remember obedience to the law is the only true freedom. We know the history, but what of the music itself??

    The Dead start off nicely with their own unique brand of electric enlightment, including a mid set Morning Dew, Mason’s, and a short but greasy Hard To Handle, after which a “severe technical problem” (Phil’s busted amp) prompts an impromptu acoustic set that is filled with nice oddball tunes such as Long Black Limousine, Seasons Of My Heart, Saw Mill, and Bound In Memories. Maybe not classic, but certainly interesting and worth a listen!

    Bear travelled to these shows and we assume he recorded them. Are the reels in those still mysterious banana boxes???

    Men who wish to know about the world must learn about it in its particular details…..

    Rock on,

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  • January 30, 2023 - 9:17pm
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    Eary 73

    Sounds good to me.

    Sorry I've been amiss. Struggling with time lately. Between my son playing HS basketball and balancing out surgeries for my folks back East I seem to be treading water just getting my work done. It's sort of put me in a music rut. Funny, you sometimes shun the one thing that can see you through. Spring '73 sounds good.

    Edit: I guess it's really Winter '73. A very creative year for the boys.

  • January 30, 2023 - 8:33pm
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    Champaign '73 . . .

    . . . sounds good to me. Despite the fact I love 2/15 and 2/19 I don't really know these shows despite having listened to them at some point.

    Oro I hope you don't think i was giving you a hard time. I was just surprised. Lord knows it's hard to keep up sometimes. Almost a full time job to give it all a dedicated listen. There's a lot of music out there!

  • January 30, 2023 - 9:47am
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    Okay, those sound good to me OB. I will get those started. Champaign Illinois let's go.

  • January 30, 2023 - 9:13am
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    POTD 2/21 & 22/73

    How bout a double shot?
    These are both on Dicks list of recommended 73s and I don’t think we’ve heard them here, at least I’ve never heard em.

    BC, I’m sure I’ve missed some picks, GOGD I am not lol. (Even though he’s a stinking quitter; )
    Perhaps part of the problem is when several of us toss several things out at once, or like your recent mention of some 72 stuff: we’re those picks, or just stuff for discussion/suggestion?
    In those cases, say where four shows are brought up, I’ll mark the one or 2 things that others seemed to actually listened to and or commented on.
    Like how I’ll mention something related to a days pick as a suggestion for furthur listening, but I wouldn’t call a “pick”

    I’ve been trying to go through at least once a week and note the shows picked and who picked em in my Deadbase, but I don’t keep track of when etc. I’m sure there were times between GOGD and when I became more diligent about keeping track that I’ve missed, SLACKER! LOL

    3/21/94: I need to discuss these shows sooner after I listen as I’ve already forgotten some of the nuances I wanted to discuss, yeeesshhk.
    I thought this one had good energy for 94 or in general, though Eternity was a bit of a buzz kill. Didn’t used to mind that one so much but it’s shelf life might be coming up? Really dug the second set! I’ve always liked the rocking vibe of Picasso and how JG can rip it up sometimes even if I have no idea what it’s about lol. Cool Speedway, and I usually like a good Victim, though I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Sweet He’s Gone, great harmonies, lil jam into another trippy 90s rave space, followed by a a nice LL/Stella/LL samitch and a Liberty encore for some variety.

    3/30/87: I’ve found these spring 87 shows more enjoyable then I recall?
    I like the matrixes and this one didn’t seem too bad though I agree that some of them are not balanced so well. I think part of my weirdness with this tour stems from being there, and being disappointed because if certain expectations we had more than the music itself?
    The way things were progressing vis a vis breaking out oldies and the old psychedelic energy, 87 was like a step backward (to us perhaps versus reality?) the jams were fewer/tamer, the vibe was much more dialed in, settled, and lacking that element of danger we were getting used to before the first health hiatus.
    We had gotten the whole tour ticket package (perhaps for a discount?) though not intending to do the whole thing. Probably figured extra tix on tour are gold Jerry, gold i tell ya!
    Whatevs, we did hit the first 8 but by Worcester I think a combination of burnout, tour colds, rapidly diminishing funds, and most of all, feeling underwhelmed? It’s all such a blur, don’t recall much of that spring or more so 86?
    So we sold the Wooster tix, hindsight being 20/20 wish we’d gone… (think we got rid of Chi town and Jersey already?)

    Anywho, my point being at the time we had a blast, dug the shows as always, but we’re a little disappointed.
    So unfortunately, like many things, once I’d made a judgment that was that and I’d sorta wrote em off.
    But through going furthur these most recent years I’ve grown to like them, even if not perhaps top shelf?
    So This go round of 3/30/87 was quite enjoyable for a lazy day in the comfy chair.
    Shakedown not the goat but no slouch and a good opener! Nice well played energetic songs with a good set list.
    Second set builds up nicely, including another good He’s Gone. I believe it was this one that has Phil hitting these big single notes on the backside outro section. I remember it really stuck out and I was smiling etc.
    Perhaps like much of 87 no really stand out stuff, just good clean safe tight GD! I’ve come to think of 87 as 77s younger cousin in that sense of the band really listening and playing consistent good clean music together as a unit, even if lacking the big jams and fireworks?
    Anyway, glad I got it in abd hey, it’s got a Baby Blue ; )

    Wish I would of continued with more music yesterday instead of more poorly played football.
    Onward!

  • January 28, 2023 - 3:49pm
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    It's the "Not Quite the FoxBox"

    but you know I mean :)

  • January 28, 2023 - 2:10pm
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    I can't believe I just read a positive review by one Brian Dyke!! 3/21/94 in the Taping Compendium.

    Well I'll be....LOL :-)

    Onwards and Upwards...

    P.S. Just happened to check out the "Fox Box" (edit- well almost) recently and was sampling the 72, too!! :-)

  • January 28, 2023 - 1:55pm
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    94 is definitely not a go to year for me
    However, I enjoyed this show. Nice same thing, Queen Jane, West LA Fairway, New Speedway Boogie, and yes a great He's Gone! Nice Stelle Blue. Fun times. Recording is good. Thanks WTJ for the pick.
    What did you all think?

    OB, shit I don't like either team left in the NFC, particularly the Eagles. So, let's go Niners!
    Routing for the Chiefs, not a Bangles fan. Should be a couple good games.

    Great story about your youth BC, love the Skull and Roses tee. February 73 is hot, but shoot, is there a bad month in 73?

    When I was coming up in the ranks of the Dead world in 85, most of the guys at my school were big metal heads, being a Dead fan was definitely not cool. By the time I graduated in 89, those same metal guys turned into dead heads.

    I will have to get to 10/19/72 tomorrow. I got through the first set of 10/17/72. Smoking hot!

    #45 shipping notice received a couple days ago. Still sitting in the shipping label created stage since 1/25.

    Be well out there.

  • January 28, 2023 - 12:20pm
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    Speaking of

    He's Gone/Trucking/Other Ones (though not necessarily in that order) I been listening to the FoxBox '72 and that Disc 3, Night 3, 10/19 is freaking ridiculous. Phil's entry into the Other One??!! Madness I say! Madness!

    Have a great weekend everybody.

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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

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At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

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Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

Edit:
Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
Be well folks!
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