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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • October 21, 2021 - 9:58am
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    Hey!! I resemble that remark

    I have been keeping up on the really good LP's.. but no space to set up my turntable. Again, first world problems that WILL get remedied, hopefully someday soon.

  • October 21, 2021 - 9:39am
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    ice cream, stuff yet to come

    .... just when I thought that was it for the end of the year,,,,, the Garcia album drops!!

    BTW - when the biker mentioned the lack of a turntable, I cut em three ways, wide, deep and repeatedly. (old richard pryor line!)

  • October 21, 2021 - 9:21am
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    Just dipping my big toe into the big box

    Starting the second set of 12/10/71 now. Incredible music on these CDs... can't wait for the rest.

    I will hit 10/20/78 when I come up for air.

    First world problems, I know.. too much great music to occupy my time. Thanks for keeping it all going you guys (and gals???). It's been a really weird week here.. call it spooktober, I don't know.. but the planets seem slightly misaligned and life is tossing curveballs. Such is life, at least we've got this newly delivered sonic nectar from the gods.

  • October 20, 2021 - 9:27pm
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    10/20/78

    This is a fantastic show. Five dancing bears! Definitely worth a listen for those that have not heard it. Two song encore. I won't ruin it for you, but I can't remember too many shows that ended like this one. The Dead always maintained the mantra of not being a greatest hits band, that is for sure.

    Billy the Kid, great time to be at these shows!

  • October 20, 2021 - 4:30pm
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    But Dennis

    The bikers respond, “you don’t have a turntable”.

    I also didn’t have a turntable.
    But then 2-27-69 came out on vinyl and I was able to get a copy. So then I had to get a turntable.

  • October 20, 2021 - 8:07am
    JimInMD
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    Missed

    Missed the last two glasses. Oh well..

  • October 20, 2021 - 8:01am
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    ice cream kid

    don't forget 31 days of december and the last 2 45's are coming in November

    and like the DaP glasses I have all the 45's!!!!

    The 45's make a great bragging point when I go to the local biker bar. Some guy will rave about his 52 pan head, or I got a 64 knuckle head. I always come back with, yeah, but I got all of the grateful dead's 45's,,,, so there!

  • October 20, 2021 - 7:57am
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    Today's Pick

    Need a change of peace before I go back to the new box.

    Billy the Kid mentioned this show that he was at and it sounded like one we should check out. 10/20/78. This one is for you Billy. Must have been a blast.

    Conekid, I think Dave said in addition to the Dave's Picks? But who knows, I think we are done with any other music release this year after we get Dave's #40, which I am excited about.

  • October 17, 2021 - 9:35am
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    The 2 things remaining for 2021 are:
    1) 2022 subscription
    2) 30 Days of Dead

    Unless Dave surprises us with a stealth release. Which would be awesome.

    I didn’t see any GD on the Black Friday RSD release list. But there is still enough time to add something.

  • October 17, 2021 - 8:08am
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    Sodium Pentothal

    the only time I ever had triple vision. I see why they call it "truth serum" I had no problem telling everyone and anyone what I thought about anything, including them, unfortunately, being a sodium pentothal a hole only brought the cops who did not act kindly when I told them what I though about them... but that's another story.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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@UNKLE SAM so cool to hear a 1st hand account of the show we listened to today!

I bet that place is amazing, another cool part of the Dead is their appreciation for a fine venue.

Thanks for sharing the experience.

What was the Lakeland 5/21/77 show like?

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There's probably a joke in there somewhere.

Anyway, finally got around to listening to 11/30/80. Based on the smile on my face, I'd say we're due for another 80's matrix soon. Good stuff.

I saw Furthur there in 2011.
The carpet, drapes, ceiling, bathroom were all still the same.

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... but I also don't hate it, and coming out of Space is the perfect place for it.

Wish I could have seen the boys in some sort of prime - my one and only show was 6/25/95, which I loved, but knowing what I know now, it was far from a peak performance. At least I got to see Jerry, and when he came out and rocked "Rainy Day Women" with Dylan - that was cool! Plus, I heard them play a lot of my favorite tunes, if somewhat sloppy.

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....i know first hand that JiminMD isn't a fan either, but agreed. Coming out of Space is pretty cool.

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In regards to Miracle, I'm a gonna jump on this bus and agree with you all, if it's gonna happen, I like when it happens out of Space.

OTIS - Glad you got to see one! I think every generation feels that way in some regard, except for maybe Bob Matthews & Sue Swanson. I might have to check out that Rainy Day Woman in your honor, later.

I'm saving the 10/21/71 Dark Star > SOTOTW for after 4:20 today.

Sounded like Shakedown Stream Pre-Show would have Jesse Jarnow tonight, you guys read HEADS?
Loved that book!

And Shakedown SPOILER ALERT -
DL said they're gonna stream 6/11/93 Buckeye Lake.

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Nice.

Saw the two Giant's shows 6/6 was good then skipped The Palace, Buckeye and Rich Stadium only to end up in Kentucky for two nights 6/15 was good skipped Chicago saw three at Deer Creek and the two at RFK met up with friends that dropped two of us off at Freedom Hall and the next day took a tour of D.C. before heading home.

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@ FOURWINDSBLOW sounds like you were having fun Summer '93!!

Saw 'em at Buckeye Lake in '88, Bruce's first time playing with them, in a guest spot maybe.

Update your Shows Attended Section when you have a minute, if you want that is..

I neglected mine until the other day, but looked at someone else's and thought, that's pretty cool info to have up there.

Fun seeing peeps Dead Shows Attended.

Dark Star 10/21/71 :)

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....i keep meaning to do that. Just lazy and afraid i might not remember them all (not necessarily a bad thing).
edit. How do you add shows attended? i been visiting this site since 2007 and still don't know.

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Hey y’all who else is loving and watching the weekly shakedown streams on yo tube! A show from ‘91 is live on YouTube right now!

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Hey y’all who else is loving and watching the weekly shakedown streams on yo tube! A show from ‘91 is live on YouTube right now!

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Let's do 8/25/72, Dave's Picks #24 tomorrow. Sounds like a plan. Got out of the house this afternoon for a good chunk of the day. Felt weird. The darkness has got to give!

Holy shit Bolo, can't believe nobody got the answer, based on your clues.

New Dave's by next Friday? Let's hope.

Be well folks!

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A sore point with me.. as during a move about 15 years ago, an ex gf threw away the folder with all my ticket stubs. Until that very moment, I had a pretty much photographic memory. Now, nothing but questions. It's amazing how much our memory relies on some sort of physical media. If that sounds crazy, well.. it might be, but photographs and physical objects are such powerful reminders.

The real kick in the ass is, she also threw away all my pictures, every single one... simply because some contained pics of me that included ex girlfriends.

No wonder I can't remember shit.

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I just got back from Buckeye Lake 6/11/93 ;)

That was fun!

DEADVIKES - 8/25/72 It’s on! Gonna be some good jams tomorrow.

BTW we saw a bunch of Alpine Shows at the same time in '87-88, that first night of ’87 Alpine was off the charts, wish there was a SBD.

FOURWINDSBLOW -
Nine in ’93!! Damnnnn.
What’s your Favorite Year that you were seeing shows?
Nice Work!

VGUY72 - Once signed in, click Archive > Search Venue, Year > Enter Year > Find Show You Want Click It > Mark as Attended. It’s a bit hooky but it works, go top down first to last.

GR8FULGAL 77 - Hells Yeah! Diggin’ Shakedown Stream that is definitely making Friday’s fun!

JIMINMD - Ouch.. Remember your first?

I sure enjoyed Alternate Dead-verse today.

Be Well and Rock with you Tomorrow!

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4/19/82, Baltimore Civic Center. Don't need no stinking ticket stub to remember that. Electric.

Buckeye Lake.... fun indeed.

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Alpine 87-88. Those were some unbelievable times.
Like Jim, I do not remember all the shows song by song like some others do, but, for some reason the first night of the 87 Alpine run, I can still remember the Feel Like a Stranger opener and my buddies and I running down the hill to try and find a spot. I always remember the Tons of Steel from that night as well. What a time! 87 for us was different from our first experience at Alpine in 86. Of course it was two weeks or so after that Jerry slipped into the comma. At the time, I didn't think we would get to see the band again. What a run after that!
GOGD, do you remember the drought in 88 at Alpine? It was crazy. We had campers in those days 87-89. I just remember 88 was so hot and we always had tons of people coming to our camper looking for water. In those days, we had tons of beer, but not much water.
Some of my best memories of all those years at Alpine was after the shows in the parking lot talking to other heads about all aspects of the shows, the band, Jerry, what the encore will be the next night, etc. Similar to what we do here. Man, seems like so long ago, but I think about those days a lot and no band has ever come close to that feeling of seeing the Dead live. There are a huge group of people here that were at those shows at Alpine, this one is for you guys and gals!
At some point in time, we will see some of these late 80s Alpine shows released.

My wife has asked me as I am watching the Shakedown Stream shows, we will see you in the crowd on some of these?
My response, only if they play Downhill from Here.

Stay well.

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"What’s your Favorite Year seeing shows?"

I would have to go with '89. Saw shows spring summer and fall and they were all great shows.

Civic Arena Pittsburgh both nights. released
Closing JFK Philadelphia. released audio and video
Spectrum Philadelphia all three nights. will be released one day

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Did Bolo24 just say were are getting another Fox Th. 1980 matrix? woohoo!

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@ Good old Grateful Dead: I had to think about this one, that was a long time ago, and it was my first dead show. What I do remember about the show was the crowd, what a cool bunch of people, and the twirlers, my first time seeing them and they were everywhere, in the back, in the halls, in the bathrooms, everywhere there was a space, they were twirling. I'm pretty sure we all dosed that night, we did that a lot in the 70's. I have Dick's picks 29 which has this show and the Atlanta show if I'm not mistaken and the band was in tune and doing the "just exactly perfect" thing but I don't remember one tune they played that night. I also remember the tye dye, it was also everywhere and the stage had a huge tye dye mural in the background, most of the speaker covers were tye dyed too, as were a lot of the crowd.
I had heard a few dead songs before going to this show and was interested, but not a deadhead yet and believe it or not, this show did not transform me into one, not that night anyway, it was the April 80 show that did that. I remember getting close enough to get a good look at Donna on stage, she was ok but I had seen bands with chick singers and she just did not impress me. I prefered Grace who in my opinion had a much better voice and was just lovely to look at. With that said I do believe that it was Donna that left me uninspired and the main reason I did not get on the bus that night. I think a lot has to happen for one to get "it" and this performance just didn't have it and the civic center, even tho it was newish, having opened in the 70's, it was still a cavern with not the best acoustics. But three years later, I jumped on the bus big time and turned a lot of younger heads later on to this band, still my favorite band after 40 + years.

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>>>>>The real kick in the ass is, she also threw away all my pictures, every single one... simply because some contained pics of me that included ex girlfriends.

That's a shame, a damn shame. The was just before she died in that tragic kayak accident, right? The river was running hard and fast and you begged her not to go out that day. It was only by the grace of GOD did you survive. I read the report about how you kept diving into the cold water time and time again to look for her, but, alas she was gone. But that's one secret you can never tell.

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Mark me down with it

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Got out of bed way too early for some reason, but had a chance to put on today's pick and listen to most of set 1 without interruption. Really strong 1st set! I love the placement of "Black Peter" and all of the regular tunes are played very well. Just finished with that beautiful "Bird Song" before the wife came down and life started again, so I am going to have to save "Playin'", "Bertha" and the short Set II for later on today, but that 1st set was a great way to start the day!

For no good reason at all, this is another pick that doesn't get as much play from me, but after this morning's initial listen, I think that is going to change!

Peace

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So cool to hear those Alpine Memories!

Two back at ya.

6/26/87 - 1st Night - Set 2 - China Cat Midi weirdness. The weather was getting ominous, my first show at Alpine, was totally ripped, and I start hearing horns and weird shit, I’m trying to see the stage, thinking is there a guest performer or something, more midi weirdness in Eyes > Drums, I didn’t know what Midi was or how they were doing that, it was eating my mind, by the time they got to the ripping All Along The Watchtower (broke out 6/20/87 that year, so it was new) the weather had gotten pretty dicey, that Watchtower sounded truly Wicked in it’s delivery and tone. The boys laid it on us that night. I bought the ticket and took the ride. It’s a night I’ve always remembered. We slowly strolled out of the show went and found our tent, partied, crashed, woke up and did it again the next day in the sun!

1988 - 2 shows, break, 2 more shows - Yeah it was hot and dry as dirt that summer as reported. I loved the break day.. we were kids, so not having water didn’t seem to effect us, we were probably drinking soda.. who knows. But we hopped in my buddy’s convertible on the day off, drove around until we spotted a pool in someones back yard, and we all ran and hopped in it to cool off and get a dip, then ran back to the car dripping wet, dived in and sped off. It felt so good, we were so hot and dirty and it was dry as a bone. Sorry folks, but we needed your pool and you weren’t in it.

At the time I never thought those would be the days, but those were the days!

THE TAPES:
Sadly the Alpine tapes seem to have issues.
1987 - No SBDs in Circulation still! Been waiting for 33 years, and even if we had them, which we don’t, they probably sound like ass, like so many ’87 shows. Healy was experimenting with UltraMatrix that year and lots of ambient noise got baked into most of those tapes.

1988 - Healy strikes again! Dan was doing some type of panning of the sound through the speakers, I can’t remember where I read / heard, think it was GD Hour, maybe Lemieux. Anyhow, it creates a type of “warble” sound in the recording, I’ve got those SBDs and they’re a bit hard to listen to due to the consistent “warble” through out. All 4 nights have it, I think the last night has it least.

Another Flash - 6/20/88 - The sun setting as they played Terrapin. I still remember that as a favorite moment, was way back on the hill on the lawn lots a space, just taking it in, looking at the moon. I’d just seen a new Brent Song (Turned out to be first Blow Away unbeknown to us at the time / pre-internet / phones / technology) and that had rocked me, we were big Brent Fans.

1989 - Well those are some good tapes!!

But that’s another tale, and I wasn’t at those shows..

Memories:)

LOL - and then life started again... that's funny!

Regarding 8/27/72 as close to perfect, I wanted anything similar to that, this show might be the closest thing too it IMO.

If not, I wanna hear your picks people, what other shows remind of you of Veneta, which I (and maybe many others?) think might be the perfect show.

And with that from Marin County.. The Grateful Dead

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....alright. I finally got off my lazy ass and listed them. I seriously didn't think I'd seen them that many times to be honest. That's a lot of grilled cheese sandwiches and kind veggie burritos my friends. What is really amazing is i have all but three of the ticket stubs still in my possession.
Getting ready to fire up 8.25.72 shortly. Working again today, so to the ARCHIVE!! STAT!!
edit. it appears there are no full show recordings there. Might have to wait until i get home. Think I'll listen to some Kinks in the meantime. Been feeling Kinky the past week or so.

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Looking at your shows attended, I thought you'd say that, but wanted to hear it.

I missed the entirety of 1989.. was out of the Country.

When I happened to catch a Dead show at the Frankfurt Festhalle in October 1990 (In reflection a tiny place to see the Dead!) I started hearing from other American DeadHeads that they'd just played Dark Star in Berlin... What the FUCK?!?!

I couldn't believe what I was hearing. What have I been missing I thought to myself... turns out a lot of really good Grateful Dead shows in 1989 & 90!

I'ma gonna check out some of those shows you mentioned at some point.

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Way cool to hear your memories on the scene.

Yeah, I noticed a little gap in your shows between the first and the next.

Oh Donna, she scared you away for a bit!

She sure is a good sport about it all, at least from what I've seen.
But who knows what happens when she turns out the lights. Wooooo ooooo ooooo!!

Good Times and thanks for sharing!

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First, watching Shakedown last night (I thought the sound was weak at best), anyway, noticed in the youtube chat that goes on beside the show and saw the name Stoltzfus! Was that you?

Shows attended - Guess I'll have to type them in since everyone seems to be :-) Yes, I have all my tix stubs. I think I have every tix stub from every show, play and movie me and the old lady went to. (40 years together, can I call her the old lady? :-) Believe me, in 40 years I've used many other terms. Hell, I even tried to get her to go kayaking with Jim's GF) Besides "stubs", my buddy made a list of every show we did, every song they did and how we rated them. He included who was there. In my notes I also included where we sat. Hell, had to something between songs while tripping balls, right? But years ago, he printed them off in a small booklet about the size of a credit card. It's always on my desk just so I can look up shows and say, hey, we were there.

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Nice Work and Damn! That’s a lot.

I was always jealous of you West Coasters

So much access to the Band

I started listening to bits of your first yesterday. That Supplication > LIT was smokin’

Got a Favorite?

Do it! :)

Nice to meet ya. And that little book sounds priceless.

Wish I was of mind to take notes at the time, but I was of mind to party and party we did.

Here's the tip - Once signed in, click Archive > Search Venue, Year > Enter Year > Find Show You Want Click It > Mark as Attended. It’s a bit hooky but it works, go top down first to last.

Good luck and have fun!

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Great memories for sure, thanks for sharing. Yes, 88, with the four shows and the break day were something. We would head to Lake Geneva for the day. Really fun times. That part of Wisconsin is really fun.

Vguy, took a look at your list, Wow! Impressive. I would have loved to see the band at Shoreline in the late 1980s. Would love to hear some stories when you get off work.

Peace.

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Great memories for sure, thanks for sharing. Yes, 88, with the four shows and the break day were something. We would head to Lake Geneva for the day. Really fun times. That part of Wisconsin is really fun.

Vguy, took a look at your list, Wow! Impressive. I would have loved to see the band at Shoreline in the late 1980s. Would love to hear some stories when you get off work.

Peace.

....i spent pretty much just people watching. I didn't get IT until Long Beach '87. After that show it was full steam ahead. The Anaheim show is View From The Vault One. I've spent a long time trying to find myself in the crowd because i know roughly where I was standing on the floor, but i keep eluding myself lol.
Biggest regret? Not going to more Cal Expo shows. That place was awesome.

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Haha.. eluding yourself again huh?

Yeah, I love '87.. for sure.

You got IT and that's what counts!

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JIMINMD - There you go! That’s a start.. Might As Well add it.

Then you’ll be On The Road Again to remembering them others :)

There’s some bad morning puns, I think the coffee is working.

THANKS ALL - Alright, I’ve peppered this board enough, sorry but there was so many nice responses when I got up this morning and wanted to get back at ya all!

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There are some rough spots here and there and a flub in Bertha. This show has a unique sound to it and it's mostly cause of Phil.

Another great Peter, beautiful Stella out of Space

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WOW, what a PIA. First the list formed on your account will be in "entered" order and there appears to be no way to sort. Then the dates when you pull up the "archive" are 1 day off. My first 4/1/80 show was under 3/31/80. After you enter "I was at this show", there is no way to go back to the next date. So lets say you went to a 9/1/85 show and a 9/2/85 show. You say show me 85, gives a list of all 85 shows, but only 4 shows show at a time. So to get to September you may have to advance 15 pages. You get to the 9/1 show, mark I was there, but the only way back it seems is to the 'home' page. So you enter 1985 again, forward 15 pages and do the same for 9/2. God help you if you were at 9/3 also :-)

So I started putting them in, but will have to redo if I want my 80 show before my 82 show!

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I can"t believe these shows were not taped with all the people taping at that time cassette's, PCM tapes and only five days later they had the audio truck to tape the Dead and Dylan shows. Were there screens are they on video? Just curious thanks.

GOGD you have a PM.

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....yeah. Every show is one date off, until you click a show and it goes to the next page.

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"Playin'" is really nice! Keith in particular sounds great in the middle of the jam. Summer and Fall 72 "Playin's" are hard to beat, though there is a lot of stiff competition! "Bertha" starts HOT! then... whoops! Jerry, as he often did, makes up for his mistake with a fiery little solo - then another near train-wreck, this time by Bobby (and maybe Phil) but they hold it together. Nice! By the end, Jerry is truly WAILING!

Set II - it may be a strangely short one, but they start right off in the deep end! "Truckin>bass solo>TOO" - Madness! (Why have I let this pick go unplayed for so long? Pure foolishness...) Spiraling jam, chasing itself and nearly disintegrating, resolving and revolving back to nearly boil over again and again (Billy!)... verse one at around the 6 minute mark, 22 more to go and - INTO pure exploration! Minute 12, and we are groovin! Phil has been particularly strong this show. This is a great Other One! Fractal melt instead of verse 2 and...

Sweet "Stella"...

This is a great pick. Perhaps I was originally turned off by the short second set, but it is just about perfect.

Highlights - "Black Peter", "Bird Song", "Playin'", Jerry's playing on "Bertha" for set 1 - "Truckin > TOO > Stella" for set II.

On to Dick's 28 (which I just got, thanks to a heads up!)

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I don't remember any screens... It was dark and rainy and I was tripping balls.

But no SBDs in circulation as of 4/25/20.

For 6/26/87 only 2 Audience Recordings circulate and are pretty much the only sources that've circulated from these shows since '87. One of these sources is the copy we got after the show once we got home and it's got some bad tape flips. Been waiting and waiting and waiting.

Honestly, the first night is the one I really would like a SBD of, just to hear that Midi Madness a bit more clearly, but I'm assuming it'd be a muddy UltraMatrix if it ever does pop up. It might be one of those had to be there shows.. but it's trippy!

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Yeah, this show smokes.. The band just plays so good in '72 especially August '72 and the PITB from this year are amazing and I love to get lost in them.. this Other One is dreamy too especially the return to Spanish Lady... sounds so good!

OTIS - Stoked on DiP V28? You got some good listening to do!!