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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    China Cat Sunflower / I Know You Rider had me dancing in the dark last night. Gonna listen to the second set today. You know, land of manana , New Mexico stylie. Damn this is a long set break!

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    I like 9/10 a little better both are great. There are two grate audience recordings of these shows in hi-rez maybe a matrix box.

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    Great stuff!

    Been working in the garage last few days and the energy from both DP 22 and 9/10/83 has made things fly by!
    Gave Santa Fe another listen last night because I was diggin it and wanted to give it a better listen than the first time. Great 83 show, fun, spirited show with interesting sets. Might just give the next night a spin today while I work.
    Guessing perhaps partially why that China-rider is in overdrive might be due to the deluge that was obviously happening as Bob says something like “we’ll be back when it stops raining”. I might contribute the pace solely to “other” things except it’s not like all the songs were that fast and it wasn’t right after break? So to go from normal 83 tempo to warp drive just then, and since they didn’t have full canopy etc, makes me think they were trying hard to get the fug outta there lol.

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    Should not have passed this one by.

    ps Feb '68 this is what I think heaven must be like.

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    Good work Vguy.

    Looking forward to the next pick.

    This has been a fun week, good idea Bolo.

    Be well people.

    Did you catch the Shakedown Stream?
    Pretty cool. Dave, can't sit still. He mentioned 50-70 or so high quality video in the Vault from 89-95. Intriguing to me, not sure if they will put any more of it out, but I would love to see it. Man, how about putting out the Spring 90 Tour on video? I would volunteer to help out on that project.

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    ....your telling me! I'm still alive. It ain't no luck, I learned to duck.
    Making lasagna.

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    That's cool as fuck Strider....

    ....northern NM does have energy. The Taos hum proves that. Gallup was always a pit stop for me.
    9.11.83 has a Morning Dew.
    Where have all the people gone today??

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    When I moved down from Montana in January 1982 I lived ten miles north of Taos on north Hondo Mesa in the “kiva” in the Grow-hole. (Built by the alternative school the Taos Learning Center TLC in the early 70s) Lived in a tipi and then the “Pyramid Cube” on El Salto Mountain for the next five years. Spring of 1987 I moved to Grant County and worked trails in the Gila. Also have worked many years up in Gallup. (Trail work and Public Radio)
    Another side bar on the Santa Fe Dead shows. The state penitentiary is just a couple miles from the Santa Fe Downs. Bobby Petersen (Unbroken Chain, Pride of Cucamonga) arranged with the authorities at the prison to transmit a low wattage FM signal live broadcast direct from the Downs. Bobby used to live on Lama Mountain up in Taos County not to mention Robert Hunter spent time living on Canyon Road in Santa Fe in the 60s and visited Taos at different times. And contrary to rumors , the Dead did not play at New Buffalo Commune in the 60s. I asked one of the founders last summer , Rick Klein who helped start Buffalo in 67 that very question. Not the Dead but the Eagles played at New Buffalo. Also Laird Grant (Jerry’s longest time friend) used to live at Morning Star above Arroyo Hondo.
    The skies are the most consistently clear of pollution day after day for the past three weeks than for the better part of the past 40 plus years. And I’m talking the mountain west.

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    ....back home where I belong. Yup. Vitamin C and cocaine.

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    I know your reading this Mr. Lemieux....

    ....they played three shows there. These two, plus a one off in '82. On off as in no tour. 13 song first set if I recall correctly. Just decided to pop into Santa Fe. Plangent it and box it and ship it.
    I'll pay $99.99 US dollars.
    Alaska would work too. I'll pony up three moose pelts.

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Bolo - I'll be there. Sorry to hear of your brother's passing. Always a funny feeling when memory carved in stone is suddenly shown to be misremembered. Hopefully the rest of the show is in the vault. If so, maybe Dave L. can lay it on us in the tapers section or jam of the week (hint hint). very nice that what we have of Set I includes that 20 minute Playing :)

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Thanks for sharing the memories Jim. Great stuff. I could not fit this one in today but will try for tomorrow along with 12/10/72. It will be a busy day.

Thanks for the picks.

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Lol, our first time to Hampton we thought we were going to spring break.
As northerners, we assumed it would be beach weather down there and were quite disappointed when we went to the beach and it was cold, windy, and not a bikini in sight.
Did score my one and only Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers comic at a head shop there, so all was not lost.

4/9 was hot, did 4/20 yesterday as I wasn’t in the mood for another partial old tape.
Interesting set list and another good spring 83 show.
Today we’ll go for 12/10/72. Unfortunately back at work so not the best listening conditions, but the dead’s always been good for helping the work get done!
ONWARD!

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Hampton 83. Man, did they play some great shows at Hampton. Good pick OB.
12/10/72👍. Wish we had the whole the show.

Tomorrow's pick. I would like to offer up 9/1/79. Great recording is available. The show starts with Half Step and the recording starts out rough but evens out mid way through and stays great throughout the rest of the show.

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Pretty sweet show is right.. you get more than an hour and a half and it starts with Bertha.. almost like a mini-show in itself even though it's a partial.

Great listen yesterday..

Something seems funky at dead.net, a change in the interface? Anyone else noticing this? A phenomenon that often predates high-profile box set announcements..?

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which is fine 👍
In fact, I almost went to this show, but the rents put the kibash on it.
Don’t think I’ve ever heard it?

12/10 was aw-ight overall. Really liked the improve jam weirdness in TOO etc..
Wonder what Lil Bolo thought of all that lol.

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Never...I entered the world at 10+ pounds!

I don't recall if it was this 12/10 show or one of the 1973 concerts, but I do remember leaving Winterland after a sizzling show, pausing at the door to peek outside and make sure I was still in San Francisco. Or on Earth, for that matter.

Those Winterland shows were usually really special.

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Anyone else seeing some very odd messages?
Can’t find the DaP 38 comments at all and I’m told I can’t comment on some other threads

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Count Vlad must have hacked Dead.net. Everything is weird...

Our only hope is that all this weirdness preludes the box set announcement we are (hopefully) going to get next week.

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Yes,what the hell is going on with this site? Seems all messed up. 79, yes Oroborous, the lost years are high on my list 79, 80, and 81. You almost went to this show? No way. You for sure need to check it out, you won't be disappointed.

Great show.. high energy and a little something extra. Thanks man.. re-hitting some of the parts where distractions pulled me away now.

Liked the interesting Saint with not yet worked out lyrics etc, a little tentative by the band..Nice S/F, cool space, excellent Rat, fun Bertha with first hand accounts describing the sun going down just as JG sang that line...
Damn, I wish I could of gone, but I was still young and the rents were not there yet and the thought of going “all the way to Rochester” GASP! (An hour and a half at the time)
That would have to wait a year.
Probably didn’t help that the folks I would have gone with were all like 5 years older and full on freaks, some had been busted with over hyped headlines in the local paper (it was all BS and nobody ever got in any real trouble).
I remember they thought the show was just ok, and told of how the Good Rats were a terrible opener and how the crowd was throwing their toy Rats back at them along with other things and literally booed then off lol.
Aw well, missed it by that much 🤌

Good pick, glad I finally got to hear it!

10+ pounds, your poor mother!

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I guess since nothings shaking I’ll continue on my spring 83 journey.
Going with 4/23/83...
Hopefully listen to some released, better sounding show to massage my poor ears after listening on device all week...

AHEM, COUOD THIS FONT BE ANY SMALLER
HEY DEAD NET, THERES OLD PEOPLE HERE, SOME OF WHOM CANT SEE SO GOOD ANYMORE!

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It's hot as balls here, it was a water day.. and from a cold mountain stream with water temps it the 50's. Going to cut the grass though and plan to revisit '79.

Hope you all are having a great weekend. Nice 72 show on SiriusXM today (9/10/72 Hollywood Palladium).. I caught parts of the second set on the drive. Nice Dark Star > Jack Straw. That would be a nice one to hit one day.

Edit: Redit the highlights of 9/1/79. Very nice.. Jerry could still sing in '79, songs I do not normally gel to stand out, like FOTD and others. Lot's of emotion, especially from Jerry. Goes to show, you cannot judge a show by the setlist. One minor issue with the 79 forward recordings.. they either did not mic the drums well or the cassette masters flattened their tone. It is a really good recording but in the first set, sometimes the drums sound like popcorn makers. Again, no drawback from the performance.. but man I wish all the recordings were betty boards.

One last shout-out to '79..I believe Otis gets the 79 vibe.

As you were.. have a great rest of the weekend.

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I am having a tough time this weekend with this site. Hard to even read what I am trying to type. What happened to this site? So maybe they have a Betty Board in the vault of this show? Yes, the recordings are never perfect. Really also like the Franklins from 79 and this show. Love the Bob Weir intro into the second set. So good. Oroborous, these guys had so much material to work with after Go to Heaven. It was a great time to get your start. I can't imagine. Would love to see more 79 officially released. 8/31/79 is also worth a listen if you care to continue on with 79.

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Did 4/23 & 25/83 at work last couple days.
4/23 was good but lost me at the end.
Candyman AND a Peggy O, hell I really liked the whole first set, second was kinda standard fare...
4/25/83: ok show, didn’t resonate as well as the New Havens, especially that 4/22 show. So far I think I’d give the nod to the Providence show on 4/20 as far as the post Meadowlands shows?
Just 4/26/83 to go and I’ll have heard everyone on this tour in some form or another, though I didn’t do the whole everyone in order method...

Well, was hoping to fire up the beast and blast something good sounding, but my server may have issues, not cool Kyle, not cool!
Guess I’ll have to stream some more shows or maybe I’ll break out some vinyl?
So 8/31/79,10/9/72, and 4/26/83 are on the radar...did we do 10/9/72? It seems familiar...if GOGD hadn’t gone and flown the coop we’d know ; )

Yeah Jim, it’s your season eh?
How’s the runoff this year? I believe you said you had a wet spring so should be good...
Get your paddle on and git sum amigo!

Working a +40 in four days after not working for six months was brutal, I’m told old for this shit lol. Gonna lounge to the max, lick my wounds, and nail a retred to my feet.... oh yeah, and hopefully watch the AVs win ; ) (sorry vguy)
y’all have a great WE!

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I just listened to 9/2/79 & I love it!
I’m betting 9/1/79 is another gratefully performance from 1979!
I love 1979, one of my favorite eras. Note , 1978 , is also a primo era from for the boys! 79 into a killer 1980s kick in first 80’s sound, from the gang! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Sounds good. I have a lot to do.

Having some fun with a house renovation in progress.. got some local, rough cut Cherry a couple years ago and recently milled it into some really incredible looking trim for the upstairs bathroom and kitchen (windows, shower, baseboard, etc.). Just completed the finish and some of the figuring on the boards looks almost tie dyed.. electric. Listening to good ole GD only seems fitting while I plow through the tedious finishing process..... a little buzz and 1979 GD really helps.. and I can't help but think the good ole GD shows up in the end product.

Been putting this off for years, covid finally freed up some time to get it done.

btw, 9/1 was a great recording for the era, good pick dvikes. The drum tones sometimes makes me wish they kept up the dedicated recording resources instead of piggy-backing on the PA and pumping that sound into a cassette deck. I still love them, first world problems I know.

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This show has garnered multiple listens from me. Rarer set II Let it Grow. Interesting take on Minglewood from what I remember. Inspired choice, good job guys. So how about 10-14-76 to 10-15-76, a la 9-1-79 to 9-2? Just a thought. Happy Tuesday all...

P.S. Nice to see things back to it's normal weird. :-)

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Alright WTJ, looks like we have a pick for today and the full show is available. Thanks!

Jim, you must be extremely handy if you are milling your own wood. Wow!
Do you have a Workingman's Dead axe for that project?

I believe Betty was still recording shows in 1979. Not sure if there are official copies of these shows in the
VAULT.

We haven't had a box announcement for 16 months. The question is will we have Dave's #39 before the next box is announced?

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I do have the Workingman's Dead hatchet. It's one of the cooler trinkets they have carried. Expensive, but the real deal.

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Really enjoyed both 79 shows this week too. Both were really fun. Will be doing much of the same today so listening is in.

first set underway on car stereo

"Loserus interruptus" since I had to eventually leave the car and go into the school

but I'll pick up right where I left off on the way home

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Proud fus...I don't know if you know the setlist, but it is a nice show to do without knowing if it's a virgin listen. Especially set II. Some rarities in there...

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I listened a long time ago

I know there is some hot stuff in there

"This mountain majesty
This rediscovery"

- Chicago

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First He's Gone since hiatus, last 'til 5/21/77. Also, Comes a Time>Franklin's...a nice pairing with...Gainesville? :-)

-edit- On the topic of twofers: 10-14 and 15-76 (10-9 and 10-10 for that matter) 9-1 and 9-2-79 we just covered here. 3-9 and 10, 1981 is another good one. Looks like Alpine in 82, 84, 85 and 86 were all twofers. So many more...

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Great pick WTJ. I had to finish this one up this morning. Last show before the Cow Palace.
Great show, really like the He's gone, Other One, Comes a Time, Franklins as you mentioned... Sugar Mag closer is decent.

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Starting 10/15 now. Better late then never...

Might get some serious listening time today though, anything else on tap just in case?

I have two tricks up my sleeve.. the sister show to 3/24/73, Dave's Picks 32 two nights later in Baltimore. I always thought these two shows were partners in crime as Philly is to Baltimore in general. Another we could hit is 1/17/68, the first DS>China Cat>11 sequence.
https://archive.org/details/gd1968-01-17.sbd.cotsman.11795.shnf

Two random picks from the past that don't get too much discussion. For now, setting the wayback to 10/15/76.

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Baltimore won't disappoint.

Interesting tidbit.. yesterday the property and business owners in one of the cooler hangs in btown sued the state for neglecting their responsibility to cut crime, gang violence and keeping general misfits out of one of the more eclectic business/bar/restaurant blocks in the city. Actually, they did not sue they just said FU to paying taxes for services that are lackluster.

I don't agree or disagree, their point being their businesses have been increasingly isolated from the rest of the city by some crime infested areas.. such that it is not very safe to walk freely between other parts of the city and Fells Point.

It's a classic part of the city though,, for example, there's only one place to get Bertha's Mussels. Best in the city since 1972. Ever seen the bumper sticker that read, Eat Bertha's Mussels? Bertha don't you come around here anymore....

I have a sneaking suspicion not paying taxes will not furtur their argument.. but hey, don't let me drown out the party.

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Still working my way through this show Jim. Great pick and the recording is really good so far.

Spring 73 is so good, well okay all of 73 is hot.

Stay well out there.

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This working shit sucks! Lol
I knew coming outta “retirement” was going to be hard, but phew, pant, pant, pant, this is more work than chasing squirrels! So not only too busy to hang with y’all, but I’ve been stuck actually having to work with people, instead of my usual solo, which means no tunes! Uuuugghhhh!
And my servers @#$&(6&& and I don’t have time to take it to its maker 3 hours away....
Hopefully I can listen to this and dat this WE?

Funny B town story, think in that section your speaking of Jimbo.
I was doing merch with my ole buddy LaRoush. Big Head Todd opening for Ziggy and the Melody Makers at what ever that cool amphitheater is that sticks out into the harbor. At the time (mid nighties) we’d been told things were better, but to be cautious late at night. So my number one rule was when it’s time to leave with the cash, be together, don’t dawdle, and get the fug out...so after a count out/pay out in some dark creepy basement with cigar smoking mob like characters totally giving me the fear, I wanted out ASAP, but of course no LaRoush to be found, Dooah!
I venture out to the truck, but he’s not there? So here I am with a large stash of cash in my briefcase, and another nights worth in the truck, and no damn LaRoush? Fuuuuuudddgggeee, only I didn’t say fudge!
Finally after searching high and low, there he is backstage knawing on what’s left of catering because he got too stoned with Ziggys crew guys and now at 2AM has uncontrollable munchies lol.
I shoulda left him there like they used to leave Bobby at rest areas etc.
Only time I had the fear worse doing merch was in Detroit but that’s another story...

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Glad to see this is still happening. Giving my head space more Space. Taking a several month break from ganga. To a much lesser degree with Ted Dape, I mean Dead tapes.
I’m not as think as you stoned I am.

I hear you man. Hang in there...

Keep the mother rolling one more time.. like from the Here Comes Sunshine near the beginning of the second set, 3/26/73 Baltimore Civic Center? ..and how about that 8 minute Weather Report Suite Prelude into Wharf Rat?

This show seems on par and well matched to DaP 32. Releasable? yes.

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Great Show!
Another notch in the ole GD gun barrel.
Yeah, that whole second set sequence was sweet, especially that WRS jam!
Good call. Sounded good too!
Perhaps better than that DaP 38 fiasco...
Agree, this would make a good Dave’s.
Might go 4/26/83 next to finish off that tour and change it up.
DP 11 will make a nice Sunday afternoon session. Perhaps some Cheeebas are in order, those DS’ demand it lol.
Onward!

EDIT: make that 4/26/83 ooopps, worth checking out. Hot Shakedown once it gets rolling, LIG, H-S-F, hot Women are, cool jam into Truckin’, nobody’s jam out into Dew etc.
Good sounding Healy board too!

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Tasty.

This is one of those shows that I did not immediately get. I was just too busy to get sucked into that second set.

Times have changed and subsequent listens unlocked the mysteries.. that Dark Star > Cumberland Blues stands alone, nothing like it. The Uncle John's Band is tasty too among other highlights. Classic fall 1972 GD. Thanks for suggesting this. '83 tomorrow?

A pre HDCD release. Solid show, had to turn it up a little more. Great from start to finish. And as you said Jim, Dark Star, Cumberland and Attics is worth a listen.

83 for today you say OB? Let's do it.

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Yeah, if you like spring 83, you’ll like 4/26/83. Last show of the tour. Good Healy Board, not matrix...
Play close attention to the Shakedown, it’s cool to hear it unfold and get strong...

I’m actually psyched for Dicks 11. Perhaps my fav 72 show..?..HA! Who am I kidding, picking a favorite 72 is a fools errand, but I really like this show, especially for that sequence you guys mentioned!
I mean it’s got a DS AND a Cumberland, with an Attics for dessert!
Supposed to hit 91 up here today. Might need to eat cheebas, get necked and freak out the neighbors lol.
I think I need one of those kiddie pools to drink beer in ; )
Aw- right chil-rens, everybody into the pewal, oh wait, Jim’s got a big pool right out side his door!
Stay cool with at tall ice cold frosty Fremont Summer Ale and some cool GD!
Onward!

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Peak exhaustion setting in here.. Is it ever ok to wake someone up at 6:25 on a Sunday morning to ask a silly question and just say goodbye, I am leaving now? Silly question, no need to answer....

Setting the controls of the wayback to 4/26/83.. cheeba is in play.. I have much to do today that does not involve other people.. solitude and listening often go hand in hand.. I am off. I should feel a little better in about 20 min..

Spring tour 1983.. the first tour we figured out it was advisable to travel to see shows and see more than one show in a tour, although the latter would have to wait until Summer. It was strange to us then.. figuring out that with the Grateful Dead, you need to see more than one show in a tour, preferably consecutive shows in close proximity to maximize music and make your dollars stretch so you can then afford to see more shows. It was not in our vocabulary until that year.. Coincidentally, this was the year I bought my first car.

Have a good one all.. Sunday Sunday Sunday...

Lol, I’m such a bastard I think my poor ole lady would be scared to wake me up too early, for any reason!

SECOND PARAGRAPH: YES!!

Great synopsis of early touring methodology!
I would add trying to find the coolest places versus what would often be the easiest i.e., going to Maine for 2 shows instead of say Meadowlands for four....though that was not fully understood early on.
Personally I found quality over quantity to be more fulfilling, but 8 on one tour was the most we ever did, and in fact sold off our tix to 3 others, for various reasons. So I can’t speak for folks who did whole tours etc...some people lived for that...
I certainly don’t remember as much from the multiple run shows I did...
Three night runs, if you could spread em out, I liked best.
2 nights in a row damn near kills me nowadays lol.

Oh yeah, things don’t hurt so much anymore as the sun is actually shining in my back door, accompanying the music about such...hmmmm,
Almost time for a cool frosty treat!

Virgin listen for me and a great show.. I think it sounds better than any of the 83 shows released thus far.. and I prefer it to the 84 Philly released last year.

Right out the gate the get things moving with a ripping Shakedown. ..and you can tell they are having fun, in the dead space between Shakedown and Minglewood someone says, "I like that" (Jerry?Phil??). Nothing that unusual until the thundering set closer, Let It Grow, where Jerry just shreds it. There is some interesting and humorous banter mixed in, again showing they are having some fun.

The Help/Slipknot!/Franklins Tower is on point especially the Slipknot!, but they saved some special sauce for the Truckin'>Nobody's Fault but Mine/Spoonful Jam>Morning Dew. I think Phil must have been hitting the Heinekens for this one, he levels the power grid at the crescendo in the Truckin' outro Jam.. he just levels the place and again in Morning Dew. A really high energy show.. after listening to the whole thing I had to go back and hit the highlights to make sure it wasn't just me, which ended my day and my buzz.

So starts the new week. Great show.

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I knew nothing of this show, what a nice surprise!

Really enjoyed 9/27/72 (DP 11) yesterday, hadn’t heard it in a while.
Always a favorite. Another awesome 72 DS into....CUMBERLAND?......fo git about it!
Nice pick.
Today probably no tunes : (
but ya never no....

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...for me at least. I am going to hit Dave's Picks 35, The Spectrum 4/19&20/84 since I sort of compared this to the 4/26/83 show last night. We will see.... If I have extra time I might hit Dave's 36 to round up a mid 80's terror and help cement my understanding of these three somewhat recently released shows as I will probably put them away for a while.

Monday Monday.. Have a good week all.

Edit: Made cleaning the house last night and this morning 'almost' fun. At least it removed most of the boredom and monotony.. I hate cleaning but will likely never hire a cleaning service. I'd rather take the money and buy a Dave's Picks subscription and some edibles and do it myself.

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I almost never keep up with this endless list of shows, but cracked the Philly show open and did the opening Shakedown. Very nice. I have the Miller copy.

Jim - I don't see edibles and housework going together! :-)