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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    vocal dropouts

    Seem to be a characteristic of 1974 shows. But the funny thing is...it's never Donna who seems to be dropped out. You would think they might wipe some of her triumphant screams off the end of the Playing jams. Blame it on the reels.

  • dovetail
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    Who hears repeated dropouts…

    Who hears repeated dropouts on vocals in this #42 set especially disc 2? (see reports of such on-line elsewhere)?

  • Exile On Main St.
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    Dear J3FF

    I can't believe people are griping about the song order. There is no reason to waste space on another CD, just to have the songs in order. Add another disc and then a contingency will complain there is only a half hour of music on one CD, and they want bonus tracks. Or that Dark Star / St Stephen / The Eleven was divided over two discs. While cost may be no problem for you, it is for others. Go buy a CD changer and program the tracks in the correct order.

    To say Lemieux is disrectful to the fans for this is a gross stretch of reality. It is because he respects rhe fans that he did this. It is easy to see he loves the fans and is eager to get great music to us. And you insult him. That us the problem with your post. Yes you are entitled to your opinion. No you are not entitled to throw accusations and make people feel bad. You owe an apology.

  • proudfoot
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    Random gripe

    The builders of my townhouse made a slanted roof with planters.

    The bar holding them in place at the angle should be held by 10 bolts.

    How many bolts did they actually install?

    Six.

    That leads to pains in the tookess, people.

  • proudfoot
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    Non-GD music

    What do these have in common?

    Led Zeppelin
    Pink Floyd
    Moody Blues
    Rolling Stones
    King Crimson
    Motorhead
    Sex Pistols
    Sweet
    ELP
    ELO
    The Who

    Identify the commonality in these artists and you win!

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    ‘69 Dead Again

    I’m really enjoying this release, some new songs for me…Seasons of my Heart and Gathering Flowers…Plus two more Dark Stars, Yum.
    Nice archival newspaper clips about Live Dead.
    The sound is great too, big thanks to Owsley for our now-future enjoyment.

    Also if coupled with Dave’s Picks 6 we have11/2, 12/20, 12/21, 12/26 1969 and 2/2 1970.
    For the song/show playing sequence I’ll quote Jerry from the 11/2 show:-) “this evening is fraught with difficulties, absolutely fraught with difficulties”

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    Dear Dave-

    So I've got Your Picks Vol. 43 in my hands and CD player. Cool music.... BUT...

    I ask you, sir--is this how YOU listen to these shows? The first 9 songs of 11/2/69, then the 5 songs from 12/26/69, then 4 songs from 11/2, then 11 songs from 12/26??

    If yes, then I don't feel you really appreciate the experience of live Dead--how each show is a unique event and piece of musical art, how each show has a rhythm and a story all its own. (This is WHY so many of us spend thousands of dollars buying these very shows on CD when we are content with just getting the best studio releases from other artists we love.)

    If this is NOT how you would listen to these shows, and you do enjoy and appreciate listening to a show as it was performed, then you are not really respecting the rest of us who want to listen to the shows in that way but don't have the privilege of access to GD's vaults.

    You make great choices of shows-- just let us listen to them as Jerry intended please. It's doable. Every single box set release does it.

    Thanks!

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    Row 22, Jimmy?

    Realizing just now that the illustrious VGuy waltzed right past me last night in row 22 at Red Rocks!

    I appreciated his "Make America Grateful Again" t-shirt at the time, he must not have seen my House of Guitars tee or I know he would have stopped for a fist bump!

    Next I get to stroll down to the mailbox to pick up DP 43 (no shipping notice, but I got the heads up from my account with USPS- pro tip).

    Let the good times roll! And now back to your regularly scheduled Gathering Flowers For The Master's Bouquet...

  • Charlie3
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    What He Said

    I also would prefer releases have the show in original sequence, with any bonus content at one end or the other of the main show of the release rather than interspersed throughout. I'd rather pay for an extra disc to keep the sequence intact, rather than to chop it up to fit on three discs. I suspect that this may be the minority view based on past discussions about bonus content and out of sequence songs.

  • J3FF
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    So I know this is off topic …

    So I know this is off topic ;D but regarding Dave's Picks... Dave- I'm ever-grateful to get to hear this music but can you PLEASE give us the shows as they were performed instead of mixing them together (#43 is an especially jumbled mess).

    Thank you.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Is it my imagination or did I notice that the Avs had to many men on the ice BEFORE the freakishly odd goal?

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I was at one of the Ally Pally shows in September 1974. The hall was reasonably large and the full-blown Wall of Sound was used. The sound was really clear and the volume was "ideal". It certainly wasn't excessively loud - talking to your mates was possible without having to shout. Like home stereo systems, the better the quality of the system, the harder it is to judge exactly how loud it is. With the Wall of Sound definitely the emphasis was on clarity and quality rather than volume for the sake of it.

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(Hammer & chisel) C-O-L-O-R-A-D-O (chisel chisel tap tap) A-V-A (to be continued)…

GarciaLive Volume 18 - As others have noted, quite good. For those that loved this particular edition of Jerry’s constantly rotating personnel, seek out the 3 Disc Pure Jerry release - Keystone Berkeley September 1, 1974. Leaving aside the family politics, the Pure Jerry series was an excellent collection, and they always included a little bit of swag with each release; this one included a bar napkin “from the Keystone”, which I still have!

Now, back to work!
(Hammer! Chisel!) L-A-N-C-H-E (chisel chisel) 2-0-2-2-C-H-A-M-P-…

Yea. The Avs had too many men on the ice. But you know what, it did not impact the play, so I am O.K. with it. It's not like a few years ago when the refs were overturning critical plays for irrelevant infractions. Or when Marchand jumps off the ice with ten seconds left in the period, leaving his team shorthanded and allowing the Blues to score the Cup winning goal. Not a penalty, but you screwed your team.

Oro - congratulations. The Avs are not going to lose three straight. I hope they win it for you tomorrow night. Always nice to hoist the Cup on your home ice.

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I just spent an hour watching Cup Check with Steve (from last night) and reading the comments.
If that’s an actual too many men penalty then half the goals in the NHL are bad goals!
Mac was no where near the play, and none of it affected the game, period!
The only reason the game wasn’t already over was the refs non calls against Tampa, luck and Vasilevskiy!
But if that’s not enough, the Bolts had 7 men on the ice, and Kadri was still able to burn 2 defenders and Vasy!
And if folks really want to get real, the refs stopped calling A LOT and more so as the game progressed.
If people are going to nit pick then go back and look at X number of actual penalties in OT and the 3rd with some involving hits that could of led to potential injuries. If the refs would of called even a few of those Tampa infractions, the game never would have gone to OT as the AVs PP would of scored for sure. The Bolts were gassed and on life support playing 5 Defensemen ffs!
I know, a lot of coulda, woulda, shoulda, but come on, anyone who actually KNOWS hockey they NEVER call Too many men in such situations AND, understands that in the playoffs, especially close final games etc, the refs generally let them get it on unless it’s just blatant and/or the refs need to calm down the aggression a little to keep things from getting outta hand. Ya know, tamp down the violence for national tv etc. lol.
So it was appropriate to not call a penalty on such BS. It was consistent with how they were (and often do) call these games.
And Cooper, who I think is an awesome coach: he’s just trying to change the focus and perhaps motivate his team. It’s truly bizarre how he, Kadri, and one of the linesmen were all involved in an even worse call that did affect the outcome of an AHL series.
Bottom line, it wasn’t a penalty and didn’t affect the play in progress. Certainly not the way that BS off sides during the Blues series in 2019? I think it was.
It sucks that things happen in big games like this, but unfortunately they do. Sure it would be great if it was all squeaky clean, but life ain’t like that. So it sucks that the Bolts are in the unenviable position there, but one could argue if they hadn’t have cheated the cap they wouldn’t have made this far anyway, and in the long run, the AVs probably would win anyways due to youth, healthiness if players, and talent, it just sucks that now there’ll always be that dark cloud.
But hey, you’ll get over it just like Sabres fans have had to get over NO GOAL! It sucks but Ce la vie!

And MIKE: to quote the Wolf from Pulp Fiction “let’s not go %#erking each other off just yet”
If the Bolts can get enough healthy players, I don’t think thier gonna go quietly into that good night!
Or maybe being a long time Buffalo Losers fan (you pick the sport) I’m so paranoid and psychologically stressed out that I won’t be able to relax and believe it until I see em with the cup in the victory parade! ; )

Sorry folks, the madness will be over soon, one way or another (see how I snuck some Dead in there ; )
Now back to yer Take A Step Back dance!

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(Whistling what appears to be “Ripple” while chiselling Colorado Av names on Cup):
M-A-C-K-I-N-N-O-N (tap tap tap) M-A-K-A-R (continues whistling)….

Oro - Tampa is an excellent team, and if they ripped the lighting bolts off the jerseys, sewed on Maple Leafs, and called Toronto home I’d be over the moon, but this AVs team has got the winner’s swagger. They are just built to win this thing. I know some terrible things happened in Buffalo sports (damn you, Brett Hull!), but this ain’t your Dad’s Buffalo Sabres (or Bills). These guys are the real deal, and I’d stock up on “party favours” if I were you, because the whole state is going to go wild!!! The last winner we had here was the Craptors a few years ago, and those celebrations are incredible (see Golden State recently).

Back to work! (Resumes whistling “Ripple”) K-A-D-R-I (tap tap tap)…

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My first big outdoor show. Sun Day #1 on 6-23-74 with ABB, Marshall Tucker, Steve Miler, Elvin Bishop, and Wet Willie at Mile High Stadium. And the ABB set had a Whipping Post!
All in their prime, albeit lacking Duane. May still stand as the biggest crowd at a show I attended. Second largest was likely the Hard Rain tour at Ft. Collins Hughes Stadium the next summer. Dylan and The Beach Boys. Weird bill but a fantastic show. I don't even come close to some of you guys! Like Monterey Pop, Englishtown, etc. but a good time was had by all despite the warm beer.
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Sounds as though it was superb, and very conducive to the music being played. Provided not too many people took the option of talking to their mates, of course. As you probably know, with Sabbath, Purple and their ilk, not only couldn't you hear your mates in the hall-you couldn't hear them on the bus on the way home either.

As side trip, I am getting a bit lost in the world of 1960s Motown at the moment, which I have never listened to before. I bought the Complete Singles 1967 box a while back, to go with the "Detroit 67 The Year That Changed Soul" book by Stuart Cosgrove that I was reading. So good, I decided to get the 1965 box. Then the 1963 one. And now the much coveted 1966 box arrived this morning. Great, great singles. Once I get the 1964 one-and maybe the 1968 one - I will call it quits.

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Integral to the transition from pop from the Brill building to soul and rock & roll of the 60s. Still some of my favorite hits. Stevie Wonder a great example of that transitional period.
The Way You Do The Things You Do and How Sweet It Is - JGB staples.
Remembering my older sister and friends perfecting their dance moves to Motown on the big mono system Dad built. The Alligator dance craze where one dives head first to the floor in a push-up move. Quite athletic and the girls made the floor shake doing that one.
Glad you're digging it DR!
Cheers

MIKE: just some self deprecating humor there, the best kind!
Funny I don’t recall 2001 so much, but have cool memories of 1996. Had just move here that winter and we’re watching up in the hills at one of my cousins west of Boulder so we had to go back down and through Boulder on our way home at the time east of town. Even at that late hour there were nuts partying in the streets, people were driving around hoking horns in the middle of the night, it’s was wild and such a good feeling to finally be a “winner” after all the frustrating Buffalo years. If they can pull it off Friday, gonna be a big pa-teh in the city fo sho! Not so sure about the state, these folks aren’t quite the Hockey fans we are. Now I don’t get out much but I haven’t seen or heard anyone out here in the boonies talking about it which is sad.
But hey, don’t cha know I’ll be ready!

ISTSHOW: I read about that show, the bad ole daze of Colorado concerts. Heard/read about the crazy Folsom field shows BITD too. Must of been a gas! My first stadium show was quite the eye opener for a 15 year old: Bob Welch, Pablo Cruise, Foreigner, and Fleetwood Mac at the Ralph.I can still picture Stevie and Lindsey Glaring at each other as they sang and LB breaking strings he was playing so hard during Go Your Own Way, like they fully meant it lol. Great R&R!
My Biggest crowd/Concert was Woodstock 94, surreal how many people were there!

DAVEROCK: generally two kinds of loud: dbs, and ear damage due to sustained distortion and/or shitty sound.
You can cause hearing damage often accompanied by ringing/not being able to hear temporarily at low DB if the sound is distorted. Sustained exposure to things like power tools etc can cause permanent hearing damage much more easily than just loud dbs if the sound is clean. This is science not opinion. Plenty of Dan Healy on this out there.
I owned some of the same equipment and worked for a band that had a smaller version of the wall, so can attest that though the music is often not too loud (you can talk to your buddy etc) normally, but during peaks in the music things can get very loud, and because it’s so clean you don’t realize it like Simon said. I’ve had stereos like that too.
But as good as the wall was, I’ve read every member of the team has stated over the years that the Meyers PA that they used in the late 80s etc could get way louder and was cleaner than the wall due to technological advances, including scale as it was now more practical to have increased and improved amps, speakers etc than the wall, and that it could sound better! Yes the wall was awesome, but it’s more about the historic significance about the innovation of what and when they created all this new tech, and the myth that has been built around it. I’ve experienced the Meyers PA hundreds of times where it WAS so loud but clean that you couldn’t easily hear your buddy, but didn’t realize it until you tried! Of course this can present a different and perhaps more dangerous hearing situation as you could actually do permanent damage and not even know it until it’s too late! The Meyers system had that potential but luckily Healy and co knew better.

Most of the “rock” bands I saw had horrible sound because it was too distorted AND too damn loud. Saw The Who the day after those poor folks died in Cincinnati in December 79 and they had what I believe, but didn’t know of at the time, was a Meyers PA, but it was being used improperly and was ridiculously loud and shrill (all high end etc).
It literally made the concert hard to enjoy!
Yes, yet another one of the many unknown but awesome things the Dead did: basically invent good concert sound reinforcement that has changed the entire industry!

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birthday anniversary yesterday. Sure wish him and Jerry were still around.

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That video with Trey and the little girl.

You know, we humans might be capable of every sort of atrocity, and we might leave the Earth to a smoking cinder by the time we extinct ourselves (along with half the life on our planet), but we had our moments, didn't we? There were times when we came together to sing songs and dance and love each other and created beauty just for joy of it. Maybe that's enough? Maybe it doesn't matter (anyway).

That video made my day. Almost makes me want to check out Phish, which, sad to say, I've never really done.

Ever been kind of afraid to dive into a band or a musician, because you know that have such a deep catalogue and so many obsessive fans and so much lore? I know people who feel like that about the Dead. I kinda feel that way about Zappa: know lots of good people who love him, obsess over him, have to have every scrap of music they can get. And it kinda scares me off. Like, where would I begin? Where would it end?

Glad to see King Gizz get some love. Those guys are just ridiculously prolific, and they love to confound all notions of musical genre, so they're had to pin down, but when they're in garage psych mode (as they usually are live) I really like them. Check out I'm in Your Mind Fuzz or maybe Polygondawandaland if you're curious. Or better yet Live in San Francisco.

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GOGD: DiP 31
Miles Davis: Filles de Kilimanjaro
Charles Mingus: Mingus Dynasty
Ty Segall: Freedom's Goblin
Grant Green: Grant's First Stand

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I totally agree with you on Phish. Don’t know where to start on their library, and I haven’t been able to connect with much I listened to. Zappa, I have just never much cared for, but I respect folks like his body of work.
PS - Grant Green was a fine guitarist, and a big influence on Walter Becker - the similarity in their tone and touch is incredible!

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Zappa?

Start with "we're only in it for the money"

I like a lot of his stuff, but therez plenty of meh, in my opinionionionionionion

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....I really don't know where to start regarding the lore, but it gets deep. But, I do know where to start regarding getting into them. A Live One or New Years '95. Check em out. I'll refund your time somehow if you don't get IT. And we all know what IT is.
King Gizzard are pretty cool. They can't be pigeonholed into a certain category, and I can appreciate that. So many awesome sounds. Reminds me a little of The Flaming Lips. A little.

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Hampton Comes Alive's
Weekapaug Groove

High energy, bitches

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1stshow - yes, it's not often mentioned that Jerry must have listened to, and been influenced by Motown-and Southern Soul - (Pigpen too-big time). Listening to theses singles collections it also becomes evident what a huge influence these records were on The Beatles, The Who and The Stones-all of whom covered Motown songs. The Stones carried on doing this into the 70's and 80's, with "Aint Too Proud To Beg", "Just My Imagination" and "Going To Go Go"-maybe more, too.
If you haven't got any of these Complete Motown Singles boxes from individual years-on the Hip-O-Select label - I highly recommend them. Great sound and informative essays. Only trouble is-you get one-you want another. And so it goes on.
Seems odd that it took me so long to get into all this. When I look back, 95% of the bands I listened to in my teens to early 20's were white, male, guitar based. When I did branch out into the blues, that tended to be "lead" guitar based too-the 3 Kings, Buddy Guy etc.
Oro - interesting what you say about the quality of sound. Bands seemed much more deafening in the 70s than they did afterwards. Either that, or I was 3/4ths deaf by about 1981! But the other thing about 1974, which was different, was that it was a very uncluttered sound. Quite sparse, with much separation between the individual instruments. They were much more jazz like than the bands I used to go and see in the early 70's, I suppose. Although The Mahavishnu Orchestra from that time were so loud it could make you feel sick.

It's nothing to do with me, but I'm not too crazy on kids singing. It was another craze in the 70's-Little Jimmy Osmond, Lena Zavaroni - and arguably the worst band of all time "Our Kid", a sort Liverpudlian version of The Osmonds. The only record I can think of that I like with kids on is "People Ain't No Good" by The Cramps.

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....actually PF, I'm partial to the one from Vegas '96. I was there and can confirm it was a rager.

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I have only two Phish releases

Hampton Comes Alive
A Live One

Every time captcha commands me to identify traffic lights, you know what song goes through my mind

Gotta get a live one into the (very long) cue

I do consider myself lucky to have been to a Phish show in 1991 in a little place in Seattle

31 years ago...wooooow

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I tried to get into these guys, bought their cd's and downloaded their shows. Back in 1999 we even went to the big end of the century show down in the everglades. Three or 4 days of fish. There were a couple of tunes that i could get into, split open and melt, run like an antelope, a few others but I just can't get there with their music. I was a dig vocal opponent to Trey being the guitarist with fare the well but Bobby said that maybe for the 75th, we can use your guy. (I didn't really have a guy, just thought trey was the wrong choice.) So when the 75th rolls around, I will be there, unfortunately, none of the band will be.
By the way, did anyone see the pics of Billy the drummer? heard he pulled a muscle and couldn't play the entire next show. Not a good sign.

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Got laid off today. After 10 years with this company I was replaced. So now I have this huge hospital bill and no job and on the same day SCOTUS kills Roe. A dark day for all of us but especially women.

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I can’t say anymore I’m just horrified

I am sorry about getting laid off. That sucks donkeys. And with medical bills.

The Exploited have a happy tune called "Fuck the USA"...it comments on "you go to hospital you gotta pay"

They also have a singalong track called "Fuck the System"

I always appreciated their subtlety

SCROTUS

I have very mixed feelings about...you know...but I don't see today as an overall long run victory

Companies that specialize in prevention should seize the opportunity

Well...

10 20 74 is a good listen. Be warned, though...some of the vocals are kinda sour on Good Lovin'

Good health to Kreutzmann and PT and everyone

Make some art today, my fellow Deadheads

Captcha wanted...TRAFFIC LIGHTS!!!

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Our ole buddy DMCVT has been completely “captured” and has not been able to post etc for some time.
He reached out to me via email asking about a mail address or someway to contact Marye.
I don’t have any of those addresses, but I think some of you good folks might.
I’ve just PM her, but thought if someone can help him get her directly he’d really appreciate it!
Thanks

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Not bummer day.
Sounds like PT got the shaft, “thanks for your loyalty, here’s a pink slip”, DMCVT has been fully captured, over half the population of our country have lost the right over their own bodies, my other half’s car stopped running on the interstate Wednesday, folks having family members pass on or damn near, Covid numbers here are through the ruff just as the part timer and tourons are rolling in, next someone will tell me their daughters knocked up, moneys missing from your dresser, and your GD HD isn’t working!
“Oh the times they are a changing”

Phish: I think their great musicians and I have A Live One and got schooled a little by some college guys I was in a band with back in the late 90s, but it’s just not clicked for me. I think it’s the lyrics? No offense, but they don’t have Hunter sending them timeless snap shots of Americana etc. again, no offense, I don’t dislike them and their great players etc.
I think it’s the goofy stuff I can’t get past. Maybe it’s a generational thing?
Somewhat same with Zappa. Great musician, composer, perhaps genius, but some stuff is just too goofy for me, and not always very melodic, but hey that’s just me. And the problem probably is just me. I’m sure in both cases if I really dug deep and spent a bunch of time I’d find things I do really like. I usually can find something cool about most music. Like I have Zappa Apostrophe and Overnight Sensation, and I love them both, but it’s not prime time for me.
The only music I normally just can’t handle is Opera, choral stuff, Rap etc, and angry negative or hateful metal etc.
definitely nothing that promotes hate, violence or other negativity.
If I want heavy metal, I’ll take some scorching 80s Jerry! ; )

Sorry to read about you getting laid off. I hope something turns up soon.

Watching the news on television these days is like watching an international horror show. I used to read about dystopian worlds - now I feel as though I'm living in one,

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Sorry you got laid off, hopefully you will be rehired soon some where else. There are lots of people hiring at this time, so hopefully you won't be out of work long.

I might very well be wrong, but I get the impression that they mainly appeal to Americans who followed The Dead around in the 1990's. And who went on to see Phish live during the mid 90's and onwards. If you are not one of that happy breed, their appeal might be a bit puzzling.

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Agree on the spaciousness etc. Probably due to the fine recordings but also the fact that’s with the wall only one source ever came out of any particular channel/speaker column etc. Except for maybe the vocals? Not positive if they mixed different mics into the vocal cluster as a whole, or if, like the instruments, they were segregated? i.e., only Bobs vocals would pass through dedicated speakers instead of all vocals through all of the vocal cluster (that giant convex center section above Billy)? The instruments were most definitely through exclusive dedicated amps and speakers for only one particular instrument. Phil had dedicated channels for each of his four bass strings! So notes from different strings were sent to a whole stack of amps and speakers dedicated to only that string!
Doing this reduces distortion while increasing efficiency and clarity significantly.
Amazing stuff! A true fest for the likes of us geeks!
And of course the proof is in the pudding!

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PT - Sorry to hear you were laid off by your employer after ten years. Lousy. I have been there, too, and it sucketh, but I hope you are back on your feet soon. A pox on your old employer.

Phish phans - Some nice recommends, but anything I’ve tried before didn’t stick. Not sure why but some acts just don’t click with me. I have done a deep dive on the music of both Ornette Coleman and Eric Dolphy, two of the most “out there” jazz acts next to Sun Ra, and I found them easier to get into than Phish, and especially Zappa. However, I’ll keep an open mind.

Oro/AJS - This is it gents - tonight is the night. The only direction a coach can give his guys before the game is likely “Enjoy. It doesn’t get any better than this.”

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Bongo Fury and Live at the Fillmore 1971 are very worthwhile. I saw him a few times in the mid to late 70s and was bored stiff but the two concerts above must have been great fun.

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....when you have 6-3 conservative majority in the SCOTUS.
The new hires are on record saying they wouldn't touch R v W during their hiring interviews.
Now excuse me. I'm going to go yell at the clouds for bit.
My political rant for the month.
Google what laws Missouri is already drawing up regarding making it a crime to leave the state to another for an abortion. Wow. Just.....wow.

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I hope its from 1969/1970, with an acoustic set for the 1970 stuff. What else, Frost. 1982/ 1985 would be nice. Ventura. 82/83/84/85. would be great. Complete Winterland Oct 1974 audio & video would be cool. Maybe, they will come out and say they have the tapes for the entire Fillmore East September 1970 run and they are going to release them all, that would be sonething. Time to order a case of beer from the Russian River Brewing Company ( Pliny the Elder), for a big 4th of July bbq. Let the Good times roll.

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MIKE: I try not to be too superstitious, but the way todays been going, I’m getting the fear! Lol
Being the WE, at least I can drink my way through tonight’s stress fest ; )

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6 13 80
Yeees

And BTK calls for the box announcement

What
Will
It
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I agree with those who’ve stated that it’s just SO difficult to start listening to an artist that has a 20 or more long discography. How WOULD one know where to start??
Re: Phish & Zappa??
I believe Phish is best enjoyed live. Very few studio albums are top notch. There actually might not be a best place to start.
The same with Frank Zappa. A ton of his best(imso) stuff is live. I actually think the new Zappa Erie set would truly be enjoyed by the bunch of coconuts on this site. I’m not suggesting you spend over $100, just try streaming the set 2 discs at a time. There is basically one concert on each 2 discs of the set.
I saw the Zappa Band on Tuesday, and was blown away by the level of musicianship. Not as fun as a REAL Zappa show, but I still gave it a 10!!

DAVEROCK-> Where are you GETTING these Motown singles boxes?? I only see a random one off available on this side of the pond, and it seems $125-$150 is the going rate.
I would LOVE to have any of the 67-71 boxes, but I cannot find or afford them.

Music is the Best!!

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I highly recommend Zappa's 1974 Helsinki show (You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore, Vol. 2). I am particularly enamored by Ruth Underwood's vibe!

Shows from Roxy 1973 and Palladium 1977 are really good shows too.

When we had him at Umass Amherst in 1984, one of our music professors, Archie Shepp, joined him on stage for the 2nd show (Let's Move To Cleveland). It wound up on YCDTOSA v4.

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Phish...A Live One or Hampton Comes Alive

Phish does need to be live

Zappa....I tell you, We're Only in it for the Money is the place to start. On headphones is best. Vvvveeeeerrrrryyyy psychedelic

And listen to Boblopes...YCDTOA vol 2 disc 1 is some the best non-GD music I've ever heard

Flash thought
"You can't do that ondemand anymore"

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...It ain’t just Motown. I can’t get enough Motown, that is true, but it’s just a slice of the Soul that’s out there, so be careful, you start with a little Motown and next thing you’re mainlining Stax with a Funkadelic chaser.

I don’t have the individual singles collections, yet, but the Hitsville USA collection from Motown covers 1959-1971 or so in 4 discs for a good overview of the Motown sound, and a number of Definitive Collections of several Motown artists are an easy way to expand a collection. The Definitive Collections have pretty good sound and give a pretty decent collection of stuff for each artist, I’ve picked up the Mary Wells, Martha Reeves & the Vandellas, Smokey Robinson, and a couple others.

Stax was a southern soul powerhouse, as one might imagine when the house band is Booker T. & the MG’s, and there was a lot of great soul released on Atlantic as well as various smaller labels of the day. Stax has a number of complete singles box sets from Stax, Volt and related labels stretching from about 1959 up through the 1970's, some cool obscure stuff amongst the more recognizable tracks, and Atlantic has a number of different collections of various artists with some really smoking stuff. Stax also has some collections of stuff from individual Stax artists, they call them Stax Profiles, and remasters of some of the more successful original albums, the Dramatics Whatcha See Is Whatcha Get for example . I found that once I started with the singles, and collections, I was soon tracking down a bunch of original albums from individual artists, and there appears to be no end in sight.

Lots of flavors of soul, bleeding into funk if you go down certain pathways, crossing over into the blues in other directions. Big, juicy, orchestral, pyschedelicized soul from Isaac Hayes, funky, raw, goodness from James Brown, even rawer sounds of Ike and Tina back in the early days, the smooth sounds of Smoky Robinson and the raw, electrifying sounds of Sugar Pie DeSanto (Etta James’ cousin, Etta’s got nothing on Sugar Pie in my book). Aretha Franklin just burning it up on Chain of Fools and Respect from her fantastic run of albums on Atlantic, it really doesn't get much better than Lady Soul or Aretha Now. From Booker T. & the MG’s to the seductive sounds of Sylvia Robinson or Sade, Jean E. Knight rocking Mr. Big Stuff, with that great funky groove, the smooth sounds of Marvin Gaye, the earnest, aspirational, social messages from Curtis Mayfield in that distinctive falsetto, and too many more to list, I can’t get enough soul of all flavors.

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If I was a women in this country, I’d make 1/6 look like a picnic. Now I don’t condone violence etc, but no one seemed to actually do anything about that, so I guess that’s stays quo now?
To me this is about man’s ignorant arrogance to think he has the right to tell a woman, or anyone, what they can and can’t do with their body, period! Folks can argue all the rest till the cows come home, but the above should not even be up for discussion!

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Hoping to see the Cup tonight, but not because I like the Avs.
As a Red Wings fan I still hate the Avs from the 90’s.
For those who don’t know why, ESPN is premiering this Sunday “Unrivaled: Red Wings v Avalanche”. If you watch that you will know why I still hate the Avs.

But now the Wings are in the East and consistently lose to the Lightning, so I don’t want them to win.

So, rooting for Oro.

But as I was typing this the Bolts scored…

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If you were a woman you would make 1/6 look like a picnic but since you are not a woman you will yell from your armchair and get drunk. I am sure they are happy you are out there getting loaded for their rights. Thank you for the laugh.

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4 25 77 is in Passaic NJ
As on 6 19 76
There is the dude going "yayayayayaya!!!"

Something only a Deadhead would notice

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....Louisiana and Alabama joined Missouri by passing trigger abortion laws the SAME DAY AS THE RULING!
Waste not, what not. Too bad they don't act so fast on other issues like Healthcare, welfare and mental health. The poor states are about to get a lot poorer. Seems like guns have more rights than women's rights regarding their bodies.
I'm sorry dead.net fam, but I am showing my pissed the fuck off side.
Sigh....I'm not a fan of this side of me, but if I get pushed....
Great hockey game though. Go Avs!
Edit. Good so see Charlie3 chiming in. Hello old friend.

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I still think the Cup is yours, but I am a lot more uncertain than I was three hours ago. What a great game. We were watching with a buddy who is not really into hockey and even he conceded that it was tremendous excitement.

Good luck in game 6.

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