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the first beatnik I was aware of was Maynard G Krebs....

Name the source of that wisdon and win!

Ace

Bluecrow wins!

Hard Case Crime published some great hard boiled crime novels a few years back - with superb lurid covers. Cornell Woolrich is another great writer in that field - "Darkness At Dawn" a collection of his early short stories is a good one.

Ian Dury offered some free advice in one of his songs -maybe "Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll". The free advice offered was something like - "Don't take nothing that is cut price/You know what that'll make you be".

I once saw him fall off his bar stool in a pub in Notting Hill. I guess it can happen to anyone.

I will have to check out the Burroughs letters volume you suggested. I did enjoy Burroughs Junkie and Queer, which are quite straight forward compared to the later experiments and cut-ups. Though lost in a move, I highly recommend the Allen Ginsberg box set Holy Soul, Jelly Roll. Some of the live recordings are absolutely stunning. Some early, quite beautiful and emotional recordings of America, Kaddish, Howl, etc. Lots of lesser known works too of course. But going up through the 80s with some recordings with the Clash.

Although adjacent to the Beats, I recently found my copy of Gary Snyder’s Mountains and Rivers without End that I bought at City Lights many years ago. Great poems.

If you are ever in N Beach, besides City Lights there is also a Beat Museum, whose book selection is out of control. Definitely read Off the Road if you haven't yet, also Junky by Bill Burroughs is probably his best (and pretty much only readable book for that matter). The First Third by Neal is better than you might think. Hell's Angels isn't Beat, but a damn good read. If you are looking for something really obscure, get And the Hippos Were Boiled in their Tanks, a collab between Kerouac and Burroughs. Happy ready ya burnouts!

Went to the tour opener, Dodger Stadium is HIGHLY recommended! The playin' not so much, hoping they are just a bit rusty. LA, cheesy as hell but sunny and maybe the world's best tacos, so can't complain....

Great sound
Good performance
Nice setlist
No X factor

I would reeeeeeeeeeeeeally like 2 23 71 to get Norman-ed

But Burroughs' other books seem impenetrable. And let's add another fascinating if somewhat lurid read: Owsley and Me: My LSD Family by Rhoney Gissen Stanley with Tom Davis.

On the music front, from the St Louis box, I absolutely loved the 12-10-71 show and the way it embodied loose rockin' fun, yet built nicely to a crescendo.

Enjoying the literature discussion, folks. I've purchased more than a handful of used paperbacks over the past week or so.

Hey I read that book! Very fine storytelling.

We're getting lots of smoke here in W. Colo.
The Haywire fire said to be near Flagstaff.
You OK down there?
Best wishes.

HF: Just finished your Across the Northern Frontier. Thanks, good read and helped tie together some other reads lately about this area.

Ha! I bought a couple books on this forum, too! Great conversation.

Considering getting the 50th anniversary release of GD first album, which features a whole cd of Vancouver 66. Is the Vancouver show worth having another copy of GD first album?

I would say yes

Think of it as getting Vancouver with a bonus feature of 1st GD lp

If you're willing to take a book recommendation from a stranger to posting on this forum, there is a great hard-boiled crime book from Mexico written in 1969 called, The Mongolian Conspiracy by Rafael Bernal. It is out in english, and oh, the protagonist's name is Garcia. Peace.

Arrived today. Great stuff.

I am reading about the Keystone as I listen. The place seemed so cool. I’d be curious to hear some feedback from anyone who actually got to see Garcia play there.

I have been listening to escape from new York new expanded edition soundtrack. One of John carpenter's best movies. The soundtrack is hypnotic. Has Anybody else played it? I think it sounds like tangerine dream, kinda?

I'll check out this book. Thanks. I'm a book worm.

I had to drive into Flagstaff today...as I went down Hwy 64 and looked to the Southeast it looked like a volcano erupting...from 75 miles away i could see the smoke roiling at the bottom of the horizon, changing colors...scary...the Pipeline fire, it is believed, was started by a camper burning used toilet paper...to add to all of this was wind conditions that blew a steady 30 MPH with gusts over 50 MPH....hats off to all the responders and local volunteers who helped with the evacuation of livestock and animals from a local shelter that was forced to leave the grounds...tomorrow winds drop down radically and temps do too....

JJSOCH - I haven't heard the recordings you mention of Allen Ginsberg, but I have seen him on film, and his words take on a different meaning when you hear him speak them as opposed to just reading them. That definitely applies to William Burroughs too. I missed a lot of his humour when reading the books, but it's very apparent when you hear him read . It's the way he tell's 'em, as British comedian Frank Carson used to say. I used to have a cassette of him reading "Junky" that was great-plus a few from the early 1990s, I think, backed by electronic type music. One called "Junkies Lament" I think-I forget the title - but it's a great story. Incredible voice.

Nick1234 - I hear what you mean about Joni Mitchell on the Rolling Thunder Revue box. Lord have mercy. I'm not so sure about Joan Baez, either. Obviously a beautiful singer and person - but I'm not so sure her particular talents fit in with those of Bob Dylan when they are duetting. She sounds a bit too operatic to me. Reminds me of how it might sound if a world famous opera singer -Placido Domingo or someone - would have sounded joining The Stones on stage and duetting with Mick Jagger on Honky Tonk Women.

re Ian Dury hitting the deck in Notting Hill Gate - according to Charles Shaar Murray, acclaimed journalist at the time, falling over got you accepted.

Nitecat- yes, definitely worth getting. I don't know if it is still available, but it also came out on vinyl a few years ago , without the first album.

Came in yesterday,,,, nice package.

I like the "full size" "booklets" that come with the LP's.

Howdy all,

I had listened to the new Dave's Pick a couple times in my car and enjoyed it. This weekend I had some time to play it on my main system with some nice speakers and to sit down with a proper head change and take it in. Wow!
The quality of the recording really struck me. This show has great stereo separation and clarity. Really nice. I haven't had another 74 show on the stereo in a while so hard to compare, but the audio quality on this really struck me.
Great show too. I really enjoy the He's Gone and the big Other one >Eyes. What an Eyes of the World. Band really gets going. Always Grateful to receive and enjoy these shows. Pretty amazing.

Another recent musical revelation is the album "Four Sail" by the band Love. Some great, crazy, psychedelic rock and roll. "Forever Changes" seems to the be Love album that everyone talks about, but I've been really taken with Four Sail. It's a bit edgier and wilder to my ears. 69 Dead type vibes.

Hope everyone is staying well and having fun out there. Cheers ya'll.

I hiiiiiiiighly recommend

6/4/78

I feel this should be a Daves someday

Very high energy

Hey please feel welcome to cannonball into the discussion. Unless I have to buy another book...

So to that I say, I'll mention one more -- a bit morbid -- The History of Torture: From Primitive Snake Pits, Medieval Thumbscrews, and Iron Maidens to Modern Brainwashing by Daniel Mannix (1964). Folks, it doesn't get much darker than this. Cut to the chase: the bulk of torture techniques were invented by Christians and used to utterly destroy people who didn't toe the line. Read it while whistling "Singing in the Rain.".... It's, um, gripping...

Okay, back to reality... hey Nappy, good luck to you, all locals, and the first responders with the fire. We're all in this together.

And FirstShow, hey thanks for reading my first book. It coulda, shoulda, woulda been a lot better but the subsequent works vindicated my path.

GarciaLive 18 in the house... Probably spin it when I'm back from oral surgery in the morning. At least we don't live anymore in the "whiskey and pliers" dental extraction age, like Mark Twain did. Oh yeah, if any of you have not read Roughing It by MT, by god, drop everything, light a spleef and laugh your ass off. Hunter Thompson had nothin' on MT...

...Pretty Mama...54 years ago today I graduated high school...wheee...being only 17 I was still 5 months away from fun and games with Selective Service...and instead of going to the grad party I went to the Shrine Expo Hall to see Fleetwood Mac, The Chambers Brothers & Chuck Berry....

The Dead Kennedys open a track with Jello Biafra speaking "God told me to skin you alive."

Very strange how "Christians" could be (and some probably still are) so horrible to others. If you have ever read the Gospels, Jesus never says "go forth and maim plentifully". Of couse, JC himself had an unenviable exit from mortal life...

HEY. BE NICE!!!

Be Nice

Respect the 10th commandment. Thy shall not steal thy neighbor's catalytic converter.

It's in imperfect world, I'd like to think we do our best. No time to hate.

Estimated - I played that again last night after reading your post. It is a great album with some fiery guitar playing. I only bought it about two years ago, so it hasn't seeped into my mind the way "Forever Changes" did-I got that one over 40 years ago, so its one those albums that almost becomes part of you after a while.
One thing though -it ( Four Sail) doesn't really seem like a Love album to me. The only ones that do are the first three, with the original line up. From that line up, original guitarist Johnny Echols is playing a few dates in London later this summer.

to say Hey Now deadheads, DP 42 is a good one. Now, how about Gainesville?

Gainesville? 6/4/78?? 11/19/72???

6/10/73????

Toni Morrison is heavy duty

Her stuff won't make you think of sunshine lollipops and rainbows

But she'll make you think

I thought the 10th commandment was about the Fillmore West Box Set.

Boy I miss lynx. Remember Mel Brooks History of the World: “these 15, (drops a tablet) I mean these 10 commandments”

Have a lil' snack
Go walking at super low tide at Puget Sound
Listening to Quicksilver MS Happy Trails on headphones

Yeah

Hey Proud, enjoy the low tide, lowest in like a decade, should make for some terrific beach combing. Stuck at work so jealous. Also, Sea Times had an article today that made me laugh about the comments earlier "Washington ranks No. 1 in catalytic converter theft in U.S." BOOOOOOOOOO

CC

If you have a Prius, have the shield installed underneath.

At times, it _was_ a little pungent, Burnsy...

I worked as a projectionist when Escape From New York was in the theater. That movie is ingrained in my brain. One of my favorite below radar movies. Finally, after decades, about a month ago, I watched Escape From LA. Did not do it to me, as it was not nearly as good writing or moving making. The special effects look cheesy today. Then 2 days ago I recorded EFNY on my dvr from a commercial free movie channel. Cant wait to watch it. Always wanted to have a car with chandeliers on the front. Just know, I would finally look cool.

recaptcha is a bitch to deal with

But I want your magic bus

You can’t have it

But I want your catalytic converter

Your boys came out flying, but Tampa is tough. A team full of grinders who don’t get rattled.

Again. The guy’s name is Kucherov. He makes other NHL players look foolish out there. Insane skills.

Good luck in period 3.

....why do some straight people feel so threatened and offended by gay people? Mind your own business! Ain't no time to hate. I'll never get it I guess. 🌈
Onto this 3rd period!!

Again, just BE NICE.

I don't know.. stop reading and you stop learning. Perhaps instead of the news read more history which seems to somehow keep repeating itself.

The answer, as inconvenient as it might,.. is not to read less.

I always thought deadheads were given a bad rap.. their heads (at least the ones I hung around) were far from dead, generally well informed, pragmatic, level headed. Quick thinking if for no other reason because they didn't want anyone to focus on what might or what might not be in that satchel left absent mindedly on the back seat...

We didn't want drama and we seemed to know what was up. Be smart or be in cuffs. Oh, and we really really liked to enjoy life, hence this incredible music and cultural Meca we seemed to enjoy.

Thats all I have.. As you were..

I agree with you on the EFNY 2. It must have been fun as the projectorist on the original escape from new York. I love how Bob hauk said " I'm ready to kick your ass out of this world, war hero."

It seems to me that people who feel threatened by gay people are afraid of something that is different from the way they themselves are. Or of the way they actually are, but are afraid to face up to. If that's the case it's a form of self hatred.

But fear of the "other" has a ghastly reach across all sections of most societies. Fear of people who talk differently, dress differently, think differently, come from a different ethnic background, come from a different class.......you could go on, and on and on and...

If you think you are not like that yourself - the likelihood is that you are, you just aren't aware of it.

I gave that a listen yesterday
Niiice.

Two things that distracted me...
Scarlet...Jerry disappears for while... that has always deflated some of the show's power to me
Keith....BAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAMBAM!!!!!

Truckin' is awesome

37 years and 2 days ago I was at the Greek Theatre for a knockout show with the Good Ole Grateful Dead.. This was one of my favorite shows the Dead played at the Greek. Great 1st set , 2nd set set opens with Morning Dew and closes with Comes a Time. I had an absolute blast at this show! Hopefully, these Greek shows will be released as a box set. 1985, the Greek falls between monster shows at the Frost and Ventura, all release worthy.