WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500
“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke
They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.
Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”
IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”
Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.
Encouraging Early Feedback
Thanks for the encouraging words.. clearing my plate for a virgin listen. I have not listened to any of these shows before..
Seconding the tip of the hat to SNAFU. Ambitious, I think have me doubled more or less.
I met #8155 accidentally, in Saint Paul, Minnesota
Love the artwork and the box size/shape. I don't care much for conformity, so I'm enjoying that this looks like none of the other boxed sets. Haven't tossed in a disc yet, but am glad that there is a band still willing to package their concert recordings in such spectacular fashion!
Lovely fall day here in MN, so I listened to a bit of 10/10/76 (DP 33) on the short drive to the start of a long bike ride, then listened to the second set of 4/25/77 (TTATS) on the ride. The former is ferocious, the latter blows your mind so slowly and gracefully that one doesn't notice until it's too late.
Coming up in the Twin Cities we have DSO, Meet-Up at the Movies, and Justin Kreutzmann's new film "Let There Be Drums!". Plus, Zakir Hussain.
Be kind, rewind.
10,814
10, 814, is in the house. So, it looks like it is selling well. Less than 2000 left.
I have 3/9/81 going now and the sound quality and performance are both really good. Would have to give it 5 dancing bears 🐻! Top shelf so far.
Love the box itself, easy to access the CDs, the book is great, large print for us eye sight challenged folks.
I think this really opens the door for more 80s cassette releases.
Really well done. Fantastic Box!
3-10-81 Half Step
Heard some faint static just after the 8:00 minute mark.
Pretty faint, anyone else notice that?
Considering the sound implosion at the beginning of the song (commented on by Bob later in the set), a little static a few minutes later isn’t surprising. But would like to confirm that I don’t have a defective CD.
So far have spun
3-9-81
9-20-82
10-11-83 You can hear the crowd during St. Stephen, must have been a joyful place.
Now spinning 3-10-81.
Overall, I’m happy with this Box, its exactly what I expected sound wise and performance wise.
I’m glad to be able to get more early 80’s representation in the collection.
Plangent can clean up cassettes, so hopefully we’ll eventually get a Greek/Ventura July 84 Box and a Summer 85 Box.
box arrived
The box arrived here in NC. Stoked! Glad these are individual CD cases for the shows rather than those "book like" ones that are hard to remove the CD and bulky to haul around. My box number is 8282 so I guess I'm supposed to start with the '82 shows LOL!
I hear the Half-Step static…
I hear the Half-Step static on my rip...
How can you tell how many are left?
Elongated
...the box is really cool, I also like the fact it's totally different than anything else.
The music sounds great too, I'm actually feeling a little surprised in places just how clear and full it sounds; although the start of an '82 show is a bit shaky which is unfortunate as it contains the Shakedown. But if heard alone outside the refence of the other years' shows it probably sounds just fine.
Got lots and lots of zeros.
Four of them in fact, scoring number forty.
That's pretty low, whatever that means.
Perhaps it's a clairvoyant Birthday Message for my better half by far, Iggy, who turns forty following this weekend.
That. I'll go with that.
Enjoy the Spoils and Be Well People!
Sixtus
P.S. Knee deep in the '83 St. Stephen show, that jam coming out of Bertha??? Whoooo Boooy. Very cool.
Happy, happy, joy, joy
to Iggy, remember, age is just a state of mind!
Received mine Monday. Should have procured it on Saturday, but our passive aggressive miserable postal workers played games, but hey, it otherwise was much quicker, AND, they used different routing so it didn’t crisscross the state and pass by within less than a mile of the PO three times, which is nice.
It is a unique size/shape, I just wish these art induced flashbacks would stop?
Unfortunately haven’t gotten a good full immersion of the first three shows, so not going to comment yet except to give a general approval. WE plans are to reverse that unfortunate trend! Hope you get yours soon!
ONWARD
Bobby on TV
Bobby discusses Janis, Pigpen and grief after Jerry passed on some show I've never heard of 'Watch what Happens Next with Andy Cohen' - find it on yutoob.
International Orders
I don't know if it has been mentioned, but international shipping is back to $15.99
It Just Might Be Your Kind of Zoo
Say what you want about the size of the book, but it offers some great panoramic shots of the band. And you won't find that in any other publication that's out there. I'm not sure that was the intent but what was first noticed when I started flipping through the pages. Boom! Ferociously right there.
While impractical, this is probably my favorite packaging sine July '78. More likely than not though, it will be stored in the wicker chest. On the other hand, last year I was dating a woman who's sister married a well to do guy who travels internationally to hunt exotic game. A real Dr. Livingstone and over the years has made his was onto the covers of hunting magazines. Anyway, after getting his kill gussied up by his personal taxidermist, he places them into museum like displays in a special wing of their home. So that's the second option for me. Marry a rich lady and build a second wing to display all my GD box sets. Track lighting and the whole bit. PM me if you think you can help!
Oblong Box
Set it across the tops of 30 Trips and PNW.
Thanks Joey for confirming the static on 1/2 Step.
5 Branch,
I think that Dennis can advise on how to build a music collection and storage room using the wife’s money.
Sounds like your ex’s sister was dating/married The Nuge.
Just started 9-21-82 and recognized the announcer at the beginning, so have heard this show many times in the past. Sounds better than the copy I had.
10.12.83 features a ten minute Cumberland....
....and THATS a spoiler that I don't care if you all get mad about.
Yes!!
These are originally cassette recordings? Wow. Props. Mind officially blown.
Rock on HBOB 🤜🤛. Covid is still hanging around, maybe for a while. Get better so you can continue rocking on.
There are auditory dips at times throughout these shows, but I don't fucking care tbh.
Yass, yass, yaass
Good to see old faces around Hbob and Fivebranch, and Spacebro recently. Nothing like a new release to bring folks round.
CONEKID 1/2 Step, definitely not your disc, it’s baked into the recording. Probably a dirty switch or bad cable I.e., Bob steps on a switch and the cable to that effect is bad?
I love (and had forgotten) the crashing reverb pan at the beginning of the song.
9/21/82: had a better listening session with this one last night. Don’t usually like virgin listening at night, so dosed off a bit during the first set, but still was better session then the first three. Have enjoyed all, but something about this one resonated? Going to do a twofer (don’t usually do that with first listens either but…) of the 83 shows today as the Other One has to work so full launch protocol, systems engaging, we”ll have liftoff in T minus 18 minutes and counting…
Nice and more
Love the new box,,,, the art work in GREAT. I like the shape. Shows sound good, first show sounds really great. I must have the original "soundboards" of these show, my in stock copy wasn't that bad, but official and "cleaned" up will always win out.
Yes the book was "big", but did have great pictures in it. No one has mentioned, but I like the "postcards", "stickers" and "coloring book" that it contained. Thought that was a nice touch.
But truly love the art!
Touched on new Weir, like the eyes into what's going on,,,, nice combo.
Listening to Days Between, sounding very nice.
Order the redo of "Ace". (How can you not! :-) )
I will mention this, just because there seem to be a slew of post about health.
New experience for me this week. Had a heart attack on Tuesday. I'm fine, a couple of stints and better than before.
I'm home and will be back taking care of the Meth heads on Monday probably.
Talk of new box and hiding from wife..... I'm telling you, hand on heart, best time to get something like this is when you're laying in the hospital. WHAT COULD SHE SAY? Ok, maybe a little concerned she bury me in the thing. If I had croaked there be an outpouring of "dead" stuff on the internet at bargain prices! She'd sell it all for pennies on the dollar! I'd come back and haunt her for that :-)
Just because I know it's coming,,,, thanks everyone for your kind thoughts. Deadheads are the best.
Back before the internet, when letters were posted to ".net" and there was a music.grateful.dead.net. There was a letter about the "dead" crowd. One letter summed it up best and I can only paraphrase. Guy said he rather be at a dead show where some tripping person may knock you down, but will help you back up and apologize. True that!
Dennis - Real glad to read…
Dennis - Real glad to read you’ve bounced back from your heart attack. That’s amazing you have recovered so quickly, must be the bulletproof New Jersey in you.
I dropped you a mention on the DaP 43 page that the Beach Boys - not sure if you’re a fan - have a super deluxe enhanced extra large 6 CD (and a vinyl version) release “Sail On Sailor” box coming in November (my interest in this release is the 1972- 2 cd “live” concert from Carnegie Hall), I thought you’d be interested. Now that you are on the mend, you are absolutely right, your wife WANTS you to get this now, to aid your recovery!
Note - the price is pretty high, so keep that cardiologist’s number at hand.
Seriously glad you are feeling better.
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack....
....just listened to that album earlier this week. Not sure if it was on Tuesday, but if it was, I'll take the blame Dennis.
JK. Glad you're still with us!!!
30 Days of Dead
Not sure where else to post this, but this weeks' JOTW got me prepped for the 30 Days. There was no indication of location or date of the show as there usually is, so I brought out my trusty Deadbase IX, no syching for me, and began the search. My favorite thing to do during November.
beach boys
I think I check it out and thought,,,, NO.
I like the hits as much as the next, but that box was pricy as I recall,,, will go check now.
But I gladly take a copy to add to The Collection.
Dennis, HBOB, birthdays
Dennis will be back to work after taking the weekend off to have heart surgery, wow mate, you are quite a rugged individual. HBOB covid sucks but just take it easy and play dead, good to see you here again and just had a birthday so I have officially entered geezerhood. Colors are coming on strong up here in the Mountains.
Holy Shit Dennis!
Ya know, I’ve had this feeling: “where’s Dennis”, almost sent ya a shout out this AM, since you haven’t been around.
Well so glad to hear you’re ok and back in the saddle!
Pretty crazy how fast they get ya in and out for such “routine” procedures nowadays!
Isn’t the average stay like 5-6 days now?
Now if only they could make such progress with the C.
Anywho, tell the Mrs the Doctor insists that you heal with as much music as possible, that outta justify a few boxes lol.
Be well amigo!
Re: Dennis
Holy Crap! Take care of yourself Dennis.. wishing you one hell of a recovery and many years to come.
He who dies with the most boxsets wins.
Start of Woman Are Smarter on 10.12.83....
....someone, (Bobby?) says "Play it like you mean it!"
Awesome. I love these guys.
He who dies with the most box sets wins. Lol.
Get well Dennis!
All this talk of hiding from our wives...remember, Dead box sets will get you through times of no money, better than money will get you through times of no Dead box sets.
Cousins getting all philosophical....
....and correct in his statement.
I told my wife that a got another box. It's September dammit!
She just said, "whatever". I call that a win! Because she finally realized that she would not win that battle lol. She finally waved the white flag. Be grateful I don't buy vinyl.
Going into 10.13.83.
Got concerned when there wasn't a middle disc, then I realized....
This box rox
Excellent work, PTB
Never mind the naysayers
Here's the GRATEFUL DEAD
Box Set and Wives
I like the comment about being a grown man and I don't need no justification damnit!
I keep justification simple,,,, I open her closet and point to shoes and pocketbooks!!
Do you really need a 20 mule team (in brown and black) in there?
I bet I could make 6 whole cows from the skin of the purses!
Ha, he’s back folks…
…and hasn’t missed a beat!
You go Dennis!
Ha, “I just open the closet…”
My other one has a bit of a book problem, so she doesn’t say a word about my modest music purchases.
VGUY: I think that’s Mickey chiding Bobby: “play it like you mean it Bobby” always seemed to me that Mickey liked messin with Bob.
PF: already hollering for a new box…this one still has the new box smell lol
Merely encouraging ol' Dave for Greek (again)
Igniting disc 2 of 10/11/83 soon
10 12 83 last night was fun
9 20 and 21 82 both make me smile
The 81s....soon, my precious...soon...
First pass completed
Listened to every CD in the Box and they all played great.
Thanks for confirmation from others about the static. I figured that it was on the source tape because it sounded like the static that’s on so many summer ‘85 recordings (I read before, think it may have been in Skeleton Key, that the summer ‘85 static was traced to a loose cable in Phil’s system).
Yesterday got all the CD’s imported to computer, converted to ALAC, and loaded onto a micro SDXC card for use in a music player. Currently playing 3-9-81 and it sounds great. Definitely a sound upgrade compared to what I had.
Wow Dennis, bouncing back quickly.
That’s good, the kids at the store need you for elderly guidance.
Proudfoot calling for a new Box already?
This one hasn’t lost its new car smell yet.
It will probably be a while before another early/mid-80’s Box comes out, unless Dave/Rhino get on board with my idea of 2 Boxes per year. Summer ‘84 and ‘85 need the cassette Plangent treatment for sure.
But I’m hoping that the next Box is a Summer ‘73 GD/ABB combined Box, not limited edition, available at all retail locations. I figure that may be the best way to get the ABB organization to agree to a release, don’t put a limit on the number of units for sale and don’t restrict it to the Rhino store.
That should also then still make a limited edition Box from the Rhino store a possibility for 2023. So bring on the Ark Box in all its Plangentized and Normanized glory.
Hey I’m down (just teasing)
for 2 boxes a year. I mean WTF are they waiting for?
This dribbling out a lousy 5 or 6 show boxes and only 4-6 shows from Dave, FFS!
At the rate their dribbling then out, according to Dave’s 20 year plan (9 left), that means only 36-54 Dave’s shows and 45 to 54 Box shows, plus hopefully a few 50 bonus shows. So a little over a hundred…
Now that may sound like a lot but when you start looking at all the good stuff that hasn’t been released it’s obvious a lot of really good shows are not going to get the treatment, bummer!
So again, why? Why don’t they release more? Sure it will take longer to sell out somethings if more are available, but eventually most will, and even if not, overall they’ll still make more money!
Do they think a bunch of kids who generally don’t buy a lot of “things” are going to pick up the slack when we croak or lose interest? WTF?
First pass/next year
Yep limped through the box in fits and starts and finally finished last night. First shows are kinda a blur at this point but I think I thought each one seemed to get better, but haven’t been able to properly listen yet.
More splices than normal which doesn’t bother me, I guess they/he really wanted these particular shows?
Perhaps that’s the rub with doing the venue theme, though I generally like the venue theme concept.
Great Dane, Greek, Rochester, Spectrum, Frost, Ventura, Cal Ex, Hampton, the list goes on so with the way their only trickling them out many will not get released!
I like the art, except it keeps triggering these damn flashbacks lol.
Yes it’s a unique shape, but I like that their all different.
The book was ok. Wide angle photos were awesome, text was ok. Other stuff not really my thing but hey I buy em for the music, especially when they get the full treatment!
I think the music in this box is mostly good, an occasional off moment, but with some truly fantastic songs too. So like most GD music…
Same with the audio. Considering the source: some occasionally less than stellar interludes but mostly good and often sounds amazing especially considering the source. Gives hope that they can fix up more shows from the second half of their career.
So far so good, I think I’m only going to like this more as I get a better chance to get to know it!
TAPE STATIC: seem to recall tapes from whenever (can’t recall) mid eighties, 87?, when Healy started to broadcast them over FM he transmitted over small area in and around shows to help keep overflow crowds away. I believe some folks used to tape that way so occasionally you’d get some static from that too…
NEXT YEAR: what they should do: Big RFK, Watkins Glen etc unlimited mass distribution release in conjunction with ABB like Conekid said, with another deadnet only best10 remaining 73 shows (there are way more left) with 9/17 or 9/15 as the Wake 50th bonus. (They have the most songs off of the album at 6).
9/11/73 couid/should be a DaP. But will they, nooooooooooo, probably come out with a line of pet products: steal your poop doggie scooper anyone? And socks, need more socks…
Splices/patches/fixes
I think that the patch in 3-9-81 Estimated is on copies I’ve had in the past, which would suggest that Healy did it years ago. But I didn’t check other copies to confirm yet.