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Joined:Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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David Letterman said someone walked up to him and said, "Are you who I think you are?" to which he replied (had this ready as it probably happens a lot) "Who do you think I are." and the guy says Dick Van Dyke. David had a funny look as he's telling this. Not sure if insulted or pleased. Must be the beard!
Cheers - 1stshow70878Joined:5-14-78
I'm in!
You had me at '78.
This SBD Charlie Miller sounds damn good even on my crappy computer.
Cheers
Donated to Archive too.
Here's the discussion part :
Through Estimated now and a great the bus is firing on all cylinders show so far. Jeez I like so many but Big River, BEW like a good bourbon, smooth and smokin'. Longest LIG? Like a jammy middle that so many of these songs have this show. Keith's intro in Samson and more put this Samson in my top 5 but I don't know who gets bumped off that list. Jerry growls into Ship of Fools. The party favors were so pure those years, lol. Quality!
Dang this Eyes giddy-ups!. And this NFA starts so beautifully. I'm 6 min into it and we're still noodling. Yeah, Oro's got it, JG just rips here. - Oroborous
Joined:Back by popular demand lolOr, careful what ya wish for ; )
5/14/78 JG just rips!
So in case your the one person out there that doesn’t know it, I listen to A LOT of Dead.
All kinds, usually by the tour or even concerted efforts to do whole years.
My quest has become to hit em all…for good or for I’ll…
Just sorta serendipitously started here on POTD during the vid when many had nothing better to do lol
It became apparent that my obsession/project was not conducive to a group of folks attempting to coalesce around one particular show, at the same time things were beginning to “normalize” (ahem, that’s debatable), So participation dwindled, especially when our awesome friend GOGD stopped hanging : (
Fortunately, Loyal diehards like DV and BC have tried to carry the torch, and Doctor Death has tried to keep it alive with his organized campaign of favorites etc.
But it was obvious that my methods were not appropriate for this board.So I’ve been going native and quietly but diligently continuing onward, through the fog!
Part of that has been a more slow, thoughtful digestion of the ETR box instead of the more normal approach of just gobbling it up, then back to my quest.
But since the 60th seemed like kinda a big deal to me at least, not just another reason to buy shit, I figured I would make each show count by including other picks from that year to get reacquainted, and compare and compliment the box choice. Sometimes I tied the box choice into the flow of my quest i.e., second half of 72, where I started at 6/17/72 and listened in order to probably 98% of everything through the rest of the year, including most but not a couple of repeats.
I also took a couple weeks and went hard on 1975 with the BFA anny etc.
I listened to each ETR box show at least twice (some more) and usually via a sit down deep dive. This approach has been thoroughly rewarding and enjoyable, though I’m only a little past half…so far!
My latest was the 5/13/78 show, which I’d heard once and liked, but didn’t find it RJ.
I’ve also been fortunate this past year or so to pick up some “real” copies of some shows I had copies from some very fine folks here, but it’s always fun to get the real deal for the collection etc. So I figured Id play the actual discs to ensure they were trouble free as part of my treatment of the 78 show.
So I started with Dicks 18, then Dave’s 15 and 7, back to Dicks 25, followed by the ETR 5/13 show, and the 5/14,( my pick today, from Boxilla). I’ve also started on the July box and am currently on 7/5. Next I’ll skip RR, and move to December 78 to hit the last 8 or 10 shows I’ve not yet heard from this year.
So why 5/14? Well, I finally dug into DP 25 a bit as I’d not fully before, and it is apparent like Dave mentions in the liners for 15? I think, that something changed after the end of that spring run. Perhaps not drastic, perhaps nuanced enough causal listening won’t illuminate it?
But the rest of the year seems to progressively get a little more dangerous, less buttery smooth 77 super model? Exciting, only those who go over the edge know where it lies to butcher HST.
Personally, I’ve always liked the not so perfect, dangerous, occasionally off the rails Dead, but that’s just a personal preference, as I like all eras etc. But primal, 78, and 85 hold a extra special sentiment for me.
So the run after spring is good, but different, with good consistency if not RJ status, though I noted 5/8 stood out a bit. The May run seems to eventually rise above this perfectly fine plateau. starting to peak with the DP 25 shows, continuing slightly upward with the ETR show which I enjoyed much more with a proper listen and in my new listening room, finally dialed in after several months.
But I found the peak of the May run to be the Boxilla 5/14/78 show!
Thought I’d heard it at least superficially once (still not sure I’ve “heard” all of Boxilla yet lol)
But maybe I hadn’t as I had no notes and boy howdy did this one sit my up and slap me silly!
Set and setting or…?
Ya know, sometimes ya get shown the light. Specifically, JG just rips!
That’s perhaps one of the variables of “the change” sometimes individuals are just stepping out and blowing their top and going for it rather than the more laid back listen to the whole and build slow style.Again, subtle, though you can clearly hear it on the 7/1 huge stadium show as their trying to rock so hard to move that huge crowd, versus that slow group gestalt flow of buttery yore. They sound like individuals trying to hard individualistically to effect the whole. Rocking and fun, but nothings like that “More Than Human” kind of big band peak style.
Don’t misunderstand, it’s all good, just different and why some of us nuts have to listen to whole tours etc, to “furthur” understand!
So 5/14 is a sweet combo of this still very cohesive smooth Dead, but JG is not afraid to let er rip, even if sometimes there’s a little road kill left behind. Maybe A tad less group cohesivenesses?
But Right outta the gate, loud and proud through 1/2 Step and Cassidy, yee dang ha! Pulls back a tad on TLEO, but let’s go again in LLR, continuing on cruising speed to build up to a rollicking set closing LIG! Phew, good sheet Mon!
The second set continues at super sonic altitude with my personal highlife being Estimated, and the Eyes out jam etc. that’s the stuff!
Previously, I dug the next Chi town and two odd west coasters, but this 5/14 show really does seem to be a peak of sorts before something new is waiting to be born, as it always was with the band. Or maybe just the beginning of the end of that wonderful band version?
Perhaps necessity required both?
I dug the fall shows back aways, another time full of holes that needed filling, and look foward to completing 78 with the December shows I’ve missed. And there’s too much to even touch on about spring tour, but that little period end of May is yet another of those little treasure troves, a little outta the way place, possibly easy to miss, or not fully appreciate in light of the rest of the superb year!
So maybe give 5/14/78 a good listen or two and let er rip!
Onward! - JeffSmith
Joined:Reports of demise greatly exaggerated?As one of many regular lurkers hereabouts, hopefully, maybe, possibly, perchance this thread ain't dead yet. Thanks for your recent rekindling efforts Forensicdoceleven. Maybe Oro will, sooner than later, end his boycott – that'd help. The format may be funky, but the banter is clean. . . Onward?
- Forensicdoceleven
Joined:God gave us memory so that we might have roses in December.....Hey rockers!!!
This being December 2, we should all be listening to the fine Boston Music Hall show of December 2 1971. I think I'll do that right now!!! See ya there!!!
As I recall, there's some odd things about this show, and yes we discussed all that LAST year lol....
Memory is a complicated thing, a relative to truth, but not its twin.....
Rock on and savor the memories!!!
Doc
How strange are the tricks of memory, which, often hazy as a dream about the most important events of a man's life, religiously preserve the merest trifles..... - Forensicdoceleven
Joined:A good laugh is sunshine in the house.....Morning rockers!!
This thread appears dead, let's bring it back to life....................
Houston, Texas November 19 1972
One of the first Fall 72 shows I ever had. Some jammy goodness in the first set.A Box Of Rain. Rare Tomorrow Is Forever. Always loved the Dark Star/WRS prelude/Half Step. Really strong show, think I'll listen on my morning commute.....
When will the Texas 72 box set be released? HendrixFreak wants to know.......
Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?
My friends, life is short, so rock on!
Doc
In the night of death, hope sees a star, and listening love can hear the rustle of a wing...... - daverock
Joined:Electric WarriorProudfoot -That was my first proper album, which I got for Christmas in 1971. I didn't know what you meant concerning the lyrics for Planet Queen, so I've just had a look. I see what you mean...amazing what was considered acceptable back in 1971. I don't think anyone would have noticed anything wrong with that back in the day. But now..
As for Good Morning Little Schoolgirl....it's hard to imagine a song being quite as wrong as that. It was really popular among blues rock bands of the 60's and 70's too. True what they say about the past being another country.

Great Danes of Fire
I had just a taste of 2/15/73 as filler back in the day - HCS and El Paso. But that HCS was smoking. Still, I'd more or less forgotten about it until a couple years ago when I read a Latvala quote about how this version of HCS compared well with the one from 12/19. And it just so happened that I had a boring task to do [censored - for some reason I cannot describe my office w/out getting hey now'd] at work. And I wanted a long show to brighten my mood. I thought of HCS and that's when it hit me that I'd never heard the rest of this show.
Wow - it's just so good! I had the entire M aples show back in the day, but I still wasn't prepared for this performance. With all the new material I figured they'd be still working things out, but it feels instead like they must have spent that week rehearsing and listening to each other, and were just in a great headspace. This show just flows.
But this one's not in the vault, is it? (I mean I hope I'm wrong...)
2/15/73
2nd set was one of the first tapes to fall in my lap way back when over 40 years ago. My favorite Here Comes Sunshine - it has a drive to it that I really dig. And Bob's guitar is so exquisitely "wiered" at times, some strange effects peddle? Of course, totally love the Dark Star > Eyes > China Doll. That was an early glimpse into the mystery. And Badass Donna on You Aint Woman Enough. And the merry run around of that sweet sweet TLEO. A tape that was much listened to and much loved, note by note.
Great (or is it Grate?) Dane Box or February '73 box - either one bring it on!
BobT
No, I haven't seen that documentary. What is it?
The old Dane County Coliseum. Was there many times, unfortunately not to see the Dead.
I hope we get those early 73 shows out at some point.
Hey DeadVikes
It is about the sound system that Owsley and the Dead had and the September to Decembers tours of 73. Newspaper clippings and some interviews. I learned there was supposed to be a December 15th show in Houston. Always wondering why the gap between Omni and Curtis Hixon shows. Youtube..
Dane County
Yep, same here. It was one one my most listened to tapes back in the day. Still have it! Here's to an official release someday.
Bob T
Thanks Bob T, I am going to track that down. Their pre wall of sound system was not too shabby either.
2/16/82
Warfield Theater
Pretty good AUD on the archive.
It's been cleaned up by Scott Wiseman, Scott Clugston, and Charlie Miller.
SEVA benefit show
2/17/79
Oakland Coliseum
Keith & Donna's last show
Campaign for Economic Democracy benefit
Excellent Dave Usborne matrix on the archive
Peace
Hey Bob T!
Nice to see ya!
Thanks for the recommendation, that was pretty cool., though kinda weird how it just ended, like Cocaine became prevalent, story over…?
I need to see it again.
f I was only allowed to have one tour….
It’d probably be f a l l w I n t e r 7 3
Good Sheet Mon!
Recovering Comfortably
Prefer gummies over the prescription stuff they gave me. I finally made it home and it's great to see a couple exciting shows to queue up and lively up my next few days.
all in all I'm doing ok. Lots of shoulder work done and still painful but I'm on the other side now. thanks for all the good thoughts.
Jim
Glad it went well for you.
PT is key to full range of motion.
I seldom did my homework and settled for less range, which is OK but now I wish I'd done more. Take it easy.
Cheers
2/16 & 17/82/ , 2/17/79
2/16 &/17/82 two very cool shows I was fortunate enough to be at , would make a great double release. 2/17/79 was a benefit called Rock for Life and was about ending environmental cancer. Another show I was at and should have been released along time ago.
Break on through
To the other side.
Woohoo, he’s back sports fans!
Glad to hear things went well!
Yeah, I think sometimes Advil and weed work better for some pain then the pill mill crap?
Whatevs gets you through the night, is awright. Rest up, be well, and play dead!
Music heals!
Jim
Good to hear Jim. Hope you are able to recover quickly.
So much music to choose.
Jim
Positive thoughts for quick healing!
Peace
jim
get well soon, play dead and I mean the music, wonder what the outcome would be if you really did play dead? Home folks freak out? then you awaken and say "I'm not Beethoven"
Great News Jim!
HN won't allow anything in my simple original message, like none of it - geez louise
Good luck with the recovery Jim
Wow, even good wishes get hey Now’d
Tips for trips
It seems to me that the more time you spend on a post, the more likely it is to be hey now'd. What seems to be working for me is to just whack one out - and then when it's printed, go back and amend it. If you can be bothered.
11/25/73 Tempe, AZ
was spinning on sirius yesterday. Caught the Eyes>WRS while heading into town.
Everyone is beautifully mixed in. What a recording! Had to check the archive to find out more. Listened to China>Rider to verify the sound quality. Would make a magnificent official release.
Tempe '73
Thanks B.B., that SBD Miller is sweet.
Currently sampling as I don't have time this AM for the whole show.
Cheers
11-25-73
I concur, gr8 show Eyes is epic, fall 73. Happy birthday Vinnie.
TNJohn
check PM.
Thanks
Hey Now Jim
Crap, Hey Jim.
Glad you have gone through the rough part. Every day I am sure it will be better, and the next thing you know, It's Summer.
Gary Farseer
Sorry man. I always forget to check my messages. I tried to make a lengthier response, but the powers that be determined I used some wrong words somewhere. I would be happy to talk those shows with you. It might be easier on the phone. Hit me a message if you want to exchange numbers. I'm still trying to figure out how to discuss the music on here without getting smacked down.
Peace
6/10/73
Revisited this fantastic show last night and this morning. What a show! Damn, love that 3rd set!. We are a lucky bunch out here.
Hope we get a box announcement soon.
Hope you avoid the smackdown TNJ.
deadvikes...
...yeah man, I'm down with that...that 3rd set has gotten at least 5x the playtime vs. any of the other sets contained in the HCS Box.
Worked-on my 2024 Box Set calculator, and got it installed yesterday lol, estimated release September; now if only I can get it to reveal the contents;)
keep smilin' everyone, it'll be announced before you know it
PEACE ALL!
uncle_tripel
Spring 84
Have hit everything in order through April 30.
Not fall 73 but better overall than I expected!
Some really good shows there, just they all seem to have the same idiosyncrasies. Mainly, misses. Not really any big train wrecks, though JG flubs Althea pretty good on the 30th.
Several times I’d be thinking, this is the show, then they’d have some little miss or Jers voice might be a bit ruff on one song. Just weird random stuff that I’d call normal, except here it just seems like every now and then, from time to time, ?? Hard to explain, perhaps I.e., check out all the HSF as an example?
The tape selection/quality is inconsistent too. I heard several less than stellar SBs, and some awesome Auds, and everything in between.
The first night of Marin sounded like practice, but was a creeper. Ist set sloppy, but eventually got some things going. Awesome Oh Babe it ain’t no lie!
The run seemed to get better as she goes. Again, kinda sounded overall like a tour warm up run… Do try to hear the Blues for Allah hints during the 3/31 space! And the Spanish jam through Rat on the 29th.
Ist night of Vegas was meh, second ok.
The tour proper starts in Hampton. First night sorta status quo for opener, nothing really stuck out. Second night I enjoyed and sounded like they were finally gelling.
CROTCHFESTER. I was at, front row, perhaps highest we ever got, so no surprise I didn’t remember much. I do recall feeling non plussed BITD but I think that’s because I had some song expectations that didn’t pan out? Always seemed overshadowed by NF the next night (same mo for us).
This time, I did dig NF as they jam hard and things can be very psychedelic musically at times, but this time Rochester really stood out for me. One of my favorite shows of the tour, definitely worth a listen!
I’ll skip Philly for now…
New Haven I liked the first night better, great Jack Straw, only Only a Fool ever played, which was meh?, nteresting anyway, nice Spanish jam and space.
Really all the drums out into space etc we’re cool on this tour.
Both Providence shows were solid. Decent Shakedown, but I’ll take the powerful Angry Shakedown from 4/16 over em all.
The second night of P town is another I recommend and another tour tops!
Nassau shows were good, but perhaps a little on the downside by this point?
Philly probably was the peak, but I didn’t feel it was obvious.
I listened to some of these shows several times trying to decide.
I remember feeling DL had gone to the wrong house with 35 being 4/20?
I still think the 21st might be a tad better, but perhaps missing a bit on HSF (they don’t quite get any of em perfect) factored in?
The 19 is ok, sorta tour status quo, 20 and 21 are definitely in the top five.
So I’d recommend not necessarily in order because these shows were all very similar in many ways, so can’t pick a definitive favorite.
4/21, 4/20, 4/16, 4/27 tops, extra credit 4/17, 4/26, 4/14.
Again, really pleasantly surprised at the overall quality and consistency of the tour. Yes if you pay attention you’ll hear some Oopsies occasionally, but perhaps no more than most tours?
Going to cleanse a bit, then hit some more spring 89…
ONWARD!
TN John
Back atcha!
Onward
Has Jeff checked in on 49 yet? Like scanned artwork. I may have missed him.
Dave's 49 Cover
Hey Gary, Hope this works. I tried a while back and got major Hey Nowwed. Here’s the cover art for Dave’s 49 that Copperdomebodhi found. Scroll down to 49:
dropbox dot com /sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl=0
If y’all PM me with your email, I’ll send future covers to you directly.
Onward
2-22,23,24 1974
wow, what a run hey, during the soundcheck for 2-22-74 I believe there is the first hints of an estimated prophet Jam, and 3 sets too.
Shazam!
February 74 is where I been cleansing this WE.
Good Sheet! Great minds ; )
84
How did you get your post past the HN police OB! Nice work. The longest one I have seen in a while.
I haven't listened to much spring 84 in long time, with the exception of Dave's #35, which I always enjoy. There have been a lot of Philly shows released by Dave. Will have to poke around a bit.
Jeff
sent PM
Thanks
The first night of Marin...
...yeah Oro, that was a strange night... and with the home crowd and the technical gremlins, it really does kinda sound like practice at times.
But that second set has a lot of mojo. The Oh Babe is a lovely one-off - first time since '81 and the last time the GD would play it onstage. The China Cat->Rider is remarkable, I just love the color Brent puts on it. They take their time with it, too; it's nearly 15 minutes long. The Playin' gets to some haunting spaces, and it's too bad Garcia wasn't a lil more patient bc I'd have loved to see what else might have happened, but I guess he had business backstage. Instead we get the debut of Don't Need Love. Again, it sounds almost like rehearsal, but it's still my fav of the 16 times Brent would eventually play it. I love this version.
Drums doesn't really go anywhere for me, but Space is excellent (Garcia must have found what he needed backstage, Weir's a monster here and Phil is so high on Jill in '84 that he seems to be livin up to his old nickname, Reddy Kilowatt) with a notable jam. And the transition into the Wheel never gets old. The Truckin->Spoonful isn't remarkable but it's solid. My tape didn't have the encore and I wasn't always in the mood for a double helping of Chuck Berry, so I sometimes pressed stop here... but sometimes I'd just press fast forward and then flip the tape to hear that beautiful Oh Babe It Ain't No Lie one more time...
Cape Cod
Decided to que up this beauty from the 30 Trips Box, 10/27/79. Why, because I am channeling a 79 Box for this year. Will it happen?
79 box set
2/17/79 & 4/22/79. I hope would be a part of it.
Our inventions mirror our secret wishes.......
No, but there will be a 1969 box set this year. It'll include the complete Vegas show from March, as well as the early April Avalon Ballroom run. As well as a couple of other surprises.......
Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first makes mad......
Rock on,
Doc
When all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed.....
1969 box
Hopefully it will include, 10/31/69, 6/27 & 28/69.
Who hears music feels his solitude peopled at once.....
Yes, we need an upgrade on that Halloween 69 show, that would be very nice. Maybe even throw Crockett in there as well, another show in need of an upgrade.......
Not sure about Santa Rosa. Good and definitely interesting, but a bit uneven. Would much prefer the Ark shows, or maybe Philly from February.........
Music is the melody whose text is the world.....
Rock on my friends!
Doc
Ladies and gentleman, I've suffered for my music, now it's your turn......
Spring 1969
I hope there is a box set of some shows from around then. That would be the creme de la creme. I always get a bit uneasy when people start enthusing about 1979.
Music turns the world upside down.
Hey rockers!
OSF has confirmed that they have the original reels of the March Vegas show and the early April Avalon Ballroom run. Although it appears that the 4/6 recording is still incomplete......
People come to music to seek oblivion: is that not also a form of deception?
Rock on, and off to the morgue,
Doc
Music is essentially useless, as is life.....
1979
Really Daverock?
1979 was a great year for the band. If you don't like it that is fine.
If they stopped playing after 1969, this site would not even exist.
1979 okay
Deadvikes - I used to rate 12/26 and 12/28/79 very highly indeed - but I haven't been moved to play either of them for quite some time. It's a year where I'm happy with what I've got, but don't particularly want anymore.
I guess the exception would be the final show with Keith - but that's not really what people mean by "1979" I don't think.
The last show I played - part of it anyway, was the Road Trips featuring jams from 6/18/74. Now that is solid gold! Nobody else I heard in 1974 was playing anything like this. Not really jazz or rock - I think they had made up their own genre by this stage
79, 74 and 69
Menage a trois
I did hit the beginning of the second set of 10 27 79 yesterday doing some PT. High energy and interesting jams. If I could only set the time machine back a week before and get Betty out there to record it, well.. the world would be a different place.
As to Louisville 74, I've always had a lot of respect for that show, it never gets old even the spooky discordant pieces. The transition from Eyes of the World to China Doll could be my favorite one.
Now a 69 Banana Box Set you say? Bad shoulder or not, I am dancing a jig in anticipation.
It's good vibe Saturday all day here at dead net. Not sure if I am tossing out a suggestion, but I am going to put on the acoustic set from 12 26 69 to start my day and kick off the weekend with some of the best vibe GD that's been released in the last few years. I thought 7 13 84 would pair pretty well with the Frost shows that were just released too.. they do a scarlet>something>fire I think?? sort of pairs with the Scarlet > Eyes.
Let's see if this post makes it through Hey Now
Hey Doc - new 2/5/70
read that previously uncirculated DS > Main 10 > DS > O1 > Aliigator from 2/5/70 Fillmore West is up at LL
Good Vibe Saturday - I woke up on that side of the bed too Jim!! And to echo Cone Kid, hope the w i n g is healing smooth and steady. Have a great weekend everybody!! Onward!!
Good healing vibes Jim
Enjoying a cup of super dark roast Colombian Supremo that I roasted and some 1974 Little Feat on vinyl.
Supposed to be 62 and sunny tomorrow, think I might roast a batch of beans.
Thanks Man
I have managed not to re-injure it while it's in a delicate state. That counts for something, right?
I'm roasting this weekend too. I tried to send a big bag off to people I know that like coffee around Christmas and New Years. I am still working my way through that list. After about three batches I lose interest and end up putting it down.
I am doing some sticky full roast Kenyan right now mixing it up with a smaller batch of Sumatra. I always had a soft spot for those earthy Indonesian beans and have been on a Kenyan kick for a couple years.
How this tie into the GD? Not sure.. I did see one of the few GD shows that started off with Casey Jones and certainly the only one post hiatus. That's gotta count for something, you've got to watch your speed that's for sure.
I'm beating my 1969 drum too while listening to our last banana box release.
The Good Vibe
Must be spreading. Maybe it's because we passed meteorological Spring. Louisville '74 you say?
Cheers
Edit: Did the SBD on archive. Killer show but now I see why the RT 2.3 version is chopped up. Sound issues early but this Sacks-Hollister sbd has very dynamic sound when it settles in. Mind bending Let It Grow.