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    Thanks, Twinz. I'm a little bummed, I haven't been to a show in like 14 years and I wanted the next one I see to be summertime.....chill parking lot scene.....lawn seats......you know, the *perfect* scene! Then I saw the boys are playing the Allstate Arena by me.....UGH! That place is a barn with horrible acoustics overall pretty opressive....exactly what I DIDN'T want my return-show to be! So I skipped out on this one cuz it seemed like they were gearing up for a summer tour. I'm hoping i'll be able to catch em at Rothbury in July. Perhaps I'll catch the fall tour, even IF it's indoors :-\",0"
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    probably the Going Furthur topic would be your best bet.
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    Eugene thread ?
    Is there a Eugene(Sept./2011) thread anywhere? "...fields of fragile thunder..."
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    I suppose it says something that wrinkle cream is now considered an indispensable tour accoutrement. Wrinkle cream spam deleted...
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    This thread is pretty old, but I don't know if it's old enough to need wrinkle cream. Besides, wouldn't that just make our monitors look all streaky? Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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    the presale for red rocks is tomorrow. anyone know what the password is? thanks.
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    Patchwork River, a new album by Grammy Award winning artist Jim lauderdale features long time Grateful dead lyricist Robert Hunter. Out 5/11.
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    Hey now! New to the forums, but long to the vibe! We're traveling from DC/VA to CA for this summer's Mountain Air Fest!! Curious to know from other's who have been to this location- the Calaveras County Fairgrounds/Angel's Camp....should we expect it to be as large and as well outfitted as our (east-coast) All Good Festival, for example? Car camping probable if one arrives early? Bountiful food vendors, so as not to worry about cooking? Port-a-johns and pay-showers available? Kind friends? Mellow/safe vibe, despite the huge turnout? We'd love to know as much as we can so we can be well prepared to party! Thanks! ...and see ya'll west-coasters out east for the remainder of the Spring shows! "One way or another, this darkness has got to give."
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    but 'll say it any way -- Happy St.Patty's Day!
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The band says Happy New Year with an announcement of almost twenty shows in April and May.  More details to come!

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So last night's May 2nd show at The Spectrum was my first show ever. My girlfriend and I went down Friday night to hang in Shakedown, and Saturday night for Shakedown and the show. The show was absolutely amazing, and I'm extremely glad I got to see them play their very last show at The Spectrum. I would have to say the only real downside was the chocolates we got off Snodgrass were way weak, and it kinda of brought my night down a bit. But no worries, I still enjoyed seeing them tear the Spectrum down regardless...I just hope they tour again sometime and I get a chance to REALLY experience the show. The Philly cops were a major downer post-show, shutting down Shakedown even earlier on Night 2 than on Night 1....From everything I heard it was because of some dumbass (not even there FOR THE DEAD) hit some security dude over the head over a nitrous tank....and in my opinion, the nitrous guys were the bane of Shakedown...the people with those tanks weren't there for The Dead they were just there making money off people and attracting negative attention from security and the cops...but other than that, Shakedown Street was extremely cool. My girlfriend and I will definitely be setting up our own little shop next time The Dead come into town :)
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Thank you for a real good time!!!!!Peace & Love,Gigi
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Rothbury Recap July 2-5 Rothbury, MI  1 4 day pass and camping is 250.00  1 2 day pass- saturday and sunday -- for $149.50 includes camping. If you choose to go the 2 day route you can enter the campground at 8:00 am on saturday morning.  http://www.rothburyfestival.com/  2009 Line up o THE DEAD (ONLY SUMMER PERFORMANCE) • BOB DYLAN AND HIS BAND • THE STRING CHEESE INCIDENT (ONLY 2009 PERFORMANCE) • WILLIE NELSON & FAMILY • THE BLACK CROWES • DAMIAN 'JR. GONG' MARLEY & NAS • STS9 • G. LOVE & SPECIAL SAUCE • GOV'T MULE • BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE • YONDER MOUNTAIN STRING BAND • THE DISCO BISCUITS • LES CLAYPOOL • COLD WAR KIDS • JOHN BUTLER • CHROMEO • ANI DIFRANCO • MSTRKRFT • MATISYAHU • GIRL TALK • GUSTER • FEMI KUTI & THE POSITIVE FORCE • MARTIN SEXTON FLOGGING MOLLY • RAILROAD EARTH • THE HOLD STEADY • TOOTS & THE MAYTALS RALPH STANLEY & THE CLINCH MOUNTAIN BOYS • BRETT DENNEN • ZAPPA PLAYS ZAPPA GRACE POTTER AND THE NOCTURNALS • SHPONGLE DJ SET • SON VOLT • JACKIE GREENE LOTUS • SOULIVE • MAN MAN • PETER ROWAN BLUEGRASS BAND W/ TONY RICE KING SUNNY ADE & HIS AFRICAN BEATS • KID CUDI • STS9 (LIVE PA SET) • THE GLITCH MOB DAVY KNOWLES AND BACK DOOR SLAM • EOTO • PRETTY LIGHTS MOSELEY, LAW, SIPE & DROLL • REBELUTION QUANNUM ALL STARS FT. LYRICS BORN, THE MIGHTY UNDERDOGS, GIFT OF GAB & LIFESAVAS TOUBAB KREWE • SAM ROBERTS BAND • HILL COUNTRY REVUE KYLE HOLLINGSWORTH BAND • LIPP SERVICE (ELIOT LIPP + MEMBERS OF PNUMA) 2020 SOUNDSYSTEM • BREAK SCIENCE FT. ADAM DEITCH • THE HARD LESSONS UNDERGROUND ORCHESTRA • FUTURE ROCK • THE MACPODZ • STEPPIN' IN IT GIANT PANDA GUERILLA DUB SQUAD • CHRIS PIERCE • RACHEL GOODRICH • THE RAGBIRDS FOUR FINGER FIVE ADDITIONAL ARTISTS TO BE ANNOUNCED ...(talks of Umphreys)
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ROTHBURY wants YOU to add to the atmosphere of the Sherwood Forest by adopting and decorating one of the towering trees in the Forest. To reserve a tree to decorate, please send an email to contests@rothburyfestival.com with your Name and Contact information (one registration name per tree please). Registration requests will be accepted while supplies (trees) last. Once you arrive at ROTHBURY, stop by the Main Information Booth (located at the Festival's Main Entrance), to pick up your Entry Number Tag. When you decorate your tree, you will leave your Tag on the tree so that winners can be identified. 5 trees will be chosen winners. The Main Decorator (registration name) of those trees will receive a GOOD LIFE Ticket upgrade (allowing access to the GOOD LIFE viewing areas at the Odeum and Ranch Arena Stages) for themselves and two guests and $150 Merrell Gift Certificate (for the contest registrant). More details here: http://www.rothburyfestival.com/tapin/contests.php
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The vibes BLEW MY MIND!!!!! I seriously think during drums, that I was in another universe:) ....(special thanks to "Virginia kid", for hokkin me up in the lot:).... Alligator was INTENSE!!! ...SHAKEDOWN ST. REALLY HAD THE CROWDS VIBES GOIN!!!!... I really didn't come back to reality till SUGAR MAG was playin..... Totally INSANE>>>I loved it and I love the boys on this tour. Warren fits in Perfect.....Not the Jerry we all love and remember, but does a qite great jam as well...THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A DEAD SHOW!!!Peace- Moye
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I just had a funny thought.... The Dead are not allowed to play at Hampton, so they sneak in on an April Fools Day as the Grateful Dead!!!
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Man, I can't begin to explain the positive and loving vibes in the lot as well as the show:) It reminded me of one of the last shows I caught in 1994 at Buckeye Lake. The boys are playing quite well together and the energy is amazing!!! Seeing how I embarked on a spiritual adventure the night before, I toned it down and sisnt eat so much "enhancers" the 2nd night:) Both set lists the 2nd night was spectacular. I got to hear my MORNING DEW for the first time on this tour:) And I think 90% of the crowd new that SAMSON & DELILAH was gonna be the encore, and it was an excellent encore:) Thank you all!!! Dead.net friends, Thank you all (GIgi, Snodgrass, Techgurl,Rooster, Chuck...and all the rest) Thank you guys!!! You are my true FAMILY and I can't wait to see you all again at another show!!!:)Peace- Moye
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Man, I can't begin to explain the positive and loving vibes in the lot as well as the show:) It reminded me of one of the last shows I caught in 1994 at Buckeye Lake. The boys are playing quite well together and the energy is amazing!!! Seeing how I embarked on a spiritual adventure the night before, I toned it down and sisnt eat so much "enhancers" the 2nd night:) Both set lists the 2nd night was spectacular. I got to hear my MORNING DEW for the first time on this tour:) And I think 90% of the crowd new that SAMSON & DELILAH was gonna be the encore, and it was an excellent encore:) Thank you all!!! Dead.net friends, Thank you all (GIgi, Snodgrass, Techgurl,Rooster, Chuck...and all the rest) Thank you guys!!! You are my true FAMILY and I can't wait to see you all again at another show!!!:)Peace- Moye
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The positive vibes you guys threw me really paid off:) Thank you both and JackstrawfromCo, You were right, I was floating about 15 feet above the crowd:) Thanks again for all you dead heads for making this very special event happen! You are all truely great folks and i really enjoy chatting with you all!!!! For everyone else thats going to the rest of the shows, Have a great show and be kind to one another.. THER IS NOTHING ON THIS EARTH LIKE A DEAD SHOW!!!!!! :)Peace- Moye
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Hey all. I've gotta miss this spring tour (though the boys are playing tonite right by my house). I took a gamble and decided not to see the indoor shows this spring. Haven't been to a show since Jerry's last one in 95. Anyone hear of any summer dates? I'm tempted to check out Rothbury in July but I was REALLY hoping for a summer outdoor show at Alpine Valley. I'm LOVING the setlists and the sound of the band this spring! This 'ol deadhead is on pins and needles!
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You got me all excited now...not that I wasn't already, but reading your post totally put a smile on my face. Can't wait for my show on Saturday!!!~TAm
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I dont think there will be any Summer Tour dates as The Dead..Due to the RD summer tour and the AB summer tour..Unless they can Clone Jeff,Bobby and Warren and they can be 2 places at once! Hey,There's an idea(LOL) But judging from the amount of fun and how AWESOME this band sounds,I wouldn't rule out a fall tour and beyond..I think they're gonna ride it till the wheels fall off....And they should!!! :-) On a side note...I was wondering if anyone is familiar with a poster I seen many years ago that has License plates on it from all 50 states,All with some kind of Dead related vanity on it, ie: DRK-STR and at the top it just says "WE ARE EVERYWHERE" Please PM me if anyone has seen this or knows how to get it...Thank-You,My brothers and My sisters...peace, G :-)
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Thanks, Twinz. I'm a little bummed, I haven't been to a show in like 14 years and I wanted the next one I see to be summertime.....chill parking lot scene.....lawn seats......you know, the *perfect* scene! Then I saw the boys are playing the Allstate Arena by me.....UGH! That place is a barn with horrible acoustics overall pretty opressive....exactly what I DIDN'T want my return-show to be! So I skipped out on this one cuz it seemed like they were gearing up for a summer tour. I'm hoping i'll be able to catch em at Rothbury in July. Perhaps I'll catch the fall tour, even IF it's indoors :-\",0"
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It's been a week since my last show of four I was able to catch on this tour and I have to say that getting out to see the boys play again was beyond my expectations. From the crazy setlists and getting to hear songs I never thought I'd get to hear live to the great vibe on Shakedown to the friendly folks I met along the way, the whole experience was amazingly good and positive. I was close to dropping another 95 bucks a ticket to get obstructed view tix for the Philly shows but didn't. After seeing the setlists I wish I had but I have faith they'll be back out there again before too long. I'll catch Bobby at the Vibes in July and then hope for a fall tour! I know there have been naysayers who were disappointed with flubbed lyrics, slow tempos, Warren etc, but I have to say that the minor flaws were far outshined by the incredible music. Warren is hitting his stride and is able to sing the jerry tunes and do them justice. he's got kind of a Jerry/Pigpen/Brent sound to his voice and IMO he fits right in. Jeff is a monster on the keys and his addition to Drumz just brought it that much further out there for me. Last but not least Bobby, Phil, Mickey and Billy are still right in there and are pushing the music to a new place, all shining in theor own rights. Cheers to the (Grateful) Dead for taking it back on the road and here's to a hopefully long run! I, for one, will be there until they decide to hang it up for good.
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rothbury music festival 4th of july weekend , like most of us ,i miss the seen i toured heavy from 1980 to 1990 best as i can remember about 140 shows havnt seen any or any of the tribute band max creek .etc... since jerry well u know . whats it like , people are saying the magic is still there . i still cant believe 29 years have gone by . planning on goin up to rothbury to check it out dylan and the boys maybe do a little tangled up in blue , thoughts and comments welcome
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Right On!! I fully agree w/what your saying..These guys are out on the road for US!!! Look at the songs they're picking out..I know they are on tour out of LOVE for the faithful!! Go...Truck..Bus...Keep On!!!! P.S. Does anyone have info on how to pass a hair folical drug test....Seriously, I need to know if it can be done.
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Hello fellow dead heads , I havent experienced La Forum tour in the past but I have toured with the grateful dead in 90 to 92 when Jerry is alive and kicking. Love shakedown street all the times ... so wondering if there will be one at La forum qq while waiting for entrance to parking lot is open up at 4pm ... please let us know as wanna show my kids whats it like be at grateful dead concert be4 the concert so they can experience it ... my daughter LOVES peace signs and tiedye stuffs (am proud of her) grins Mike
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I have two extras for Shoreline, May 14: Section 201, row D, seats 3 and 4 (pretty decent). Face plus musictoday fees (ie, what i paid).
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What's happening with planet Saturn in the logo? Show the same piece of puzzle since the beginnig of the tour.
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Blotter?Should I print it out and give it a try? can't be any worse then what was being peddled on shakedown street this tour! (bunk, bunk, and more bunk!) lol
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Man, it kinda reminds me of this blotter I had years ago called aztec calander. Anyone remember that? Or the felix the cat blotter in the mid 90s?Peace- Moye
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Sorry dude, needless to say you are out of luck on the hair follicle test, unless you shave your head and they have nothing to test. There is no getting around that no matter what you hear. NO you cannot bleach it out, strip it, or any other remedies you may run across on the www. only way to pass is not to do anything to make you fail! i know, it sucks.
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5/5 in Chicago was absolutely the best show i've ever been to. The drum solo sent chills down my spine! It was awesome! Will never forget it. Wishin video cameras had been allowed, but we got the audio cd's. Hopin to see them all at Rothbury this summer.
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was kind of surprized that the Brendyn Byrne Meadowlands (Izod for you youngins) shows were no where near sold out... or was there some other reason for the black curtain covering the top back tier facing the stage?? we got miracled (from an old friend) with seats in the 3rd row right in front of Branford for the Tuesday show, that was fucking awesome. caught 8 shows. all in all, a grate tour!! I was actually rather proud of myself that i did NOT, like in the old daze, try to get to every show humanly possible (once we got that green light from the calvary) like, we did NOT drive all the way up to Albany... if you are anywhere near the rest of the shows, I got one word: GO!! now, we done.
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Your lucky man, I heard those shows, man, there killer. It wasn't sold out you say? Hmmm....Thats odd... Out of all 3 shows on this tour i caught (not including the Penn show) i'd have to say the first night at the Spectrum was the most magical:) The second night had better set lists tho..You Know tho, I thoght they would of encored with Samson & Delilah into> Brokendown Palace... You know, "id tear this old building down, Now lets leave this brokendown palace" Either way, what ever the dead play, ITS ALWAYS GRATE!!! The dead could play Mary had a little lamb and id start dancin my ass off!!!! :)Peace- Moye
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILLY!!!!Wonder if they'll sing happy birthday at the Colorado show? Yeah!! Of course they will:) Peace- Moye
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happy birthday billy thanks for everything
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Can't wait to get on the bus here in about 5 hours. Then not get off till the Gorge. Just got to get through this hell I call work today. It's going to be a party tonight! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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And JackStraw, I'm thinking about you buddy, have fun tonight and be sure to post about it tomorrow! WOOHOOOO!
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5/5 Cinco De Mayo..........My first ever Dead show. Arrive at the lot around 5:00. We walked around, bought some beverages, ate some goodies, bought some handmade jewlery, always fun!!! Around show time we decided it was time to go to our seats. So feelin real good by then we get in the security line, and just when we thought we were in the clear, a BitchPig grabs my purse and starts rummaging, found my concealed bottle of Jack and confiscated it!! Brand New bottle!!! I was pissed but not as pissed as when we got inside and I paid $7.50 for a Mia-Tia!!! Beareaucratic Buzzkill!!!!! Then it was showtime and the boys started playin and the magic started happenin. My neighbors were nice enough to share some love (if youknow what I mean) and then I was groovin. Later in the show my son also shared a little love with me too. How cool!!! I almost cried during Unbroken Chain and then I lost my mind when they played Hell in a Bucket, one of my top ten favorite Dead songs!!!!!!!! I left the show that night feelin like a kid who just got everthing they wanted for Christmas!!!!! 5/5 Chicago was a show beyond description and it will live in my memory forever!!!!!!!!!! @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ May the Four Winds Blow You Safely Home... I Miss Jerry
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not sure if there was some other reason for the big black curtain over those upper sections at Byrne, but certainly those shows were'nt sold out. it would be interesting to know which shows actually 'sold out' and did not have any tickets at the box office on the day of the shows... yeah, a Brokedown Palace after that Sampson in Philly would have been sweet... ( -; dilema with the Dead these daze is once Phil makes his donor rap, you know there will only be one more tune... especially after they take their bows. would have been nice if after that on a few shows they picked up the guitars once more... the only really COOL surprise I saw was the opening of the second set with the drumz because the first set had been so long, forgot which show that was. during the 10-12 shows I saw during the 2004 tour, they played LATE numerous nights... and that was after Hunter or Warren had opened! so those were pretty cool, I though. I especially dug seeing Hunter opening! I am looking forward to trying to get to some Rat Dog shows this summer, Jackie Greene is opening!!!!!!!!! personally, I'd also love to see a combo Phil & Friends / Ratdog tour one of these daze, less hype, no hassles with crappy technology pre-sales, less asshole scalpers... that don't mean to say I think anything wrong is with the Dead, had lots of fun there, too. good vibes, good music, no major hassles, cool folks!
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All I can say is acoustic Deep Elem Blues!! Folks this show in Denver was so damn good I don't give a crap about the negative reviews about the tour so far, thank you for your opinion, but I have to disagree with any negativity ... tonight was absolutely amazing ... the energy ... the love ... the music ohhh the music!! Tonight I became a huge Warren fan, he is just nailing it!! China Doll ... seriously just let Warren sing some more !!... Cumberland ... so freaking good!! Billy .. Mickey ... thunderous!! Jeff grooving as good as any keyboarder ... Ok its late got to go! Peace and love and see you in shoreline and the gorge!! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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So, we know thar Ratdog is doing a summer tour.... And i'm sure that Phil has stuff going on as well...But, wouldn't it be kewl if Phills band and Bobbys band joined forces and opened up for The Dead:) The start of a summer tour!!! Maybe throw Robert Hunter in there to sing for Phil & friends and Ratdogs bands:) 1 HUGE JAMFEST!!!! Well, there probably just pipe dreams of mine, but Damn, can you just imagine!!!! Peace- Moye I NEED MY DEAD
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hmmm, given the fact thatJackie is opening a fair amount of shows for Ratdog, I wonder if phil will take the summer off and then tour in the fall? check out these CONFIRMED dates: http://ratdog.org/tour/ phil's site and his tour link only re-directs back to dead . net and the Dead tour dates... meanwhile, moye, I have lived my life chasing my own (cough cough) pipe dreams, and here's hoping yours will come true! ( -; meanwhile, here is a taste of what happens if Phil and Friends and Ratdog jam together in one big super band! 12/31/08 NYE show at Bill Graham Civic Center in SF, and yup, we was THERE!! fucking grate shows! a couple of different views of the same stuff: and the final bow which was about 2:30 am... that show lasted from around 6:30pm, Jackie opening, etc etc etc, until the wee hours... not to mention the after parties outside after. ( -;
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WOW!!!! I'm speachles man......That looks like one hell of a party:) Watchin the turtle drop...WOW!!! Forever Grateful, Forever Dead, Peace- Moye
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Hey now, awesome, great show! Spent the day in the lot meeting up with old and new friends. All was well, good energy. The show rocked! I left with a smile on my face and a warm heart! However, as soon as we left the Pepsi Center we were greeted with hostility from security. We quickly got back to our car and decided to pack it up and move on when a fight broke out between two deadheads. We did not get a chance to say goodbye to friends. Does anyone know how the scene transpired? Did everyone get on the road safely? To all, "may the four winds blow you safely home". Peace
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both 12/30/08 and 12/31/08 were two of the best non-Grateful but dead related shows we ever been to. general admission to boot! was a bit rough on the system, though. seriously squeejeed by jet-lag getting to San Francisco and then the all night partying and way too little sleep both daze and nights. napping in the panhandle doesn't quite provide enough rest to my tired bones. only stimulant used was adreniline, green tea, and coffee. borrowed a hog from an old tour buddy who still lives in The Haight... let me just say, racing up and down the streets of San Francisco on a scoot at 5am is rareley a good idea. ) -; shucks, just ain't as young as I used to be. sigh. ( -; peace.
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Glad to hear you had a great show - we're doing the second half of the tour through you vicariously, you know! So you must keep reporting back:)We're listening to it on Internet Archives right now - actually in our garden, which isn't a bad place to be either. Are you going to all the W coast shows too? Going to order RatDog tickets for Hampton, that's the best cure I can think of for the post-Dead blues!
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Some good vibes for JACKSTRAWFROMCO!!!!!!!! May your shows your about to embark on be the GRATEST EVER!!! Have fun man. And like Rosa said, keep us posted my friend:)Forever Grateful, Forever Dead, Peace- Moye
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You all are are grate .. hugs to you both .. Even though my butt was draggin today I haven't stopped smiling!! We're off to CA tomorrow. "Dont you drink hard liquor just a cup of cold coffee .. gonna get up in the mornin' and go" I'll report back on Monday. Peace and love to all!! "Escaping through the lily fields, I came across an empty space. It rainbow then exploded, left a bus stop in its place. The bus come by and I got on, thats when it all began. It was Cowboy Neal at the wheel of the bus to never ever land"
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:) Have a great show tonight my friend:) Lots and lots of beautiful, energetic, positive vibes for tonight and tomarrows shows for you my friend!!!! And lots of great vibes for everyone else thats catchin the rest of the shows!!!!NOTHIN LEFT TO DO BUT SMILE:) SMILE:) SMILE:) Peace- Moye
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Happy Mothers Day to all you Hippy Moms out there!! Hope you have a nice day. :-)
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WOW..........Wrote a letter....Mailed it in the air......I think our friend JackstrawfromCo had a grooooovin time last night:)Peace- Moye
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Last nights show had to of been BANGIN:) Viola must have been sweet to go into it 3 times:) And don't get me started on the 2nd set:) WOW..........Opener...Shakedon st.....Scarlet/Fire....Wow Peace- Moye
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Have they been serving Pancakes at any of the shows ? I could catch the end of the tour if they have Pancakes ! Gotto have Pancakes !
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And all I can say is I wish I was able to head west and see/hear more. You all are in for a treat out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.