• January 19, 2011
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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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I was on the fence weather to order this. I would like to order it. However the whole enchilada sounds much better to me than the music only. I know it will be in I tunes and on my i pod within days,and the beautiful box will be put into my personal Smithsonian. Again I want the whole enchilada. I know i tunes is not a loss less format,but it allows me to carry the whole enchilada were talking crazy amounts of music in the palm of my hand. If you are kind enough to share. I would be forever grateful. You can Email it to me please. One question first before you send me a code. Do they charge your card at the time of order or 30days before it ships in September ? I would rather be billed in the fall so I can pinch my penny's through out the year. Thanks for your consideration... Warmest Regards, Italian Ripple Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right... P.S. I am not an eBay slime. This is for my personal enjoyment.
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they will hold your card for about 7-9 days, you will see a pre-authorization for the full amount, you will be charged in full again once it is shipped out in sept
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Think you are forgetting that you will be charged 20% VAT on top of everything else. So $450 - box set $85 - shipping ----- $530 $20 (c 4% duty) ------ $550 $110 (20% VAT) ------ $660 = £407 at current exchange rate. Lentils and millet for this boy for the rest of the year...
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Didn't you guys have your own tax revolution over there a couple of centuries ago?. An extra $215 just to go over the puddle? Maybe the European Deadheads should start their own black op to meet a small jet on a deserted runway some where in the middle of Europe. Forget the bullocks
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If you think thats bad, don't ask about the price of gasoline over here! In my opinion, the $85 shipping is pretty good for this compared to some of the International shipping charges that have popped up on here once in a while.
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Being an educated guy, I am saving money and do not mind telling all you europeans how.First you have to understand that saving money is good. Then as Simon rob noted you are likely to pay a huge amount of money in air transport, customs and VAT on the 1972 box. And one victim says "well it will be eating lentils all year round". Well maaybe so...but you can eat them in Miami Beach absolutely free. OH YEAH? The secret is to have the box sent free to an American address. This is not rocket science; go ahead, make a friend. THEN YOU CAN BUY A ROUNDTRIP TICKET TO MIAMI BEACH FOR THE PRICE OF THE SUM OF AIRMAIL PLUS CUSTOMS PLUS VAT. SO YOU GET THE BOX, YOU GET A VACATION AND YOU DO NOT SPEND ANYMORE THAN THE HAPLESS GUY SITTING IN CLOUDY OLD HAMBURG OPPOSITE THE FAMOUS MOSQUE WAITING ON HIS MAIL
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Can anyone tell me if the liner notes for DP. vol. 30 are any good? By good, I mean pics and interesting info about the band before they embarked to Europe. I am debating a download if they are not really worth it. Thanks
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I'm pretty sure if a Euro-Head came over here, got his/her box set and carried it back to Europe they would have to declare its value at Customs and pay some sort of import duty. Also, the way airlines are these days they'd probably get gouged for some sort of extra baggage fee. Nice thinking though LOL.
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Page 1 & 2: Double page photo of the Academy of Music marquee saying "Howard Stein Presents Grateful Dead"Page 3 & 4: Reproductions of a couple of newspaper articles regarding the shows, tiny hard to read print and the usual stuff that appears in newspaper articles about Dead shows. Page 5 & 6: The tracklisting for the four CDs. Nothing really outstanding, only the one photo and nothing about the European tour that I could see before my eyes cramped up LOL.
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What if you open it and say you had it for awhile...only if they were hardcore deadheads would they even know it was just released...it's amazing how governments can figure out dozens of ways to tax people when they really do nothing for most citizens...i never got welfare or got any handout...i pay huge sums of money to libraries because i really see that as a productive cause...i think spending money on schools is like burning money because the kids don't ever see that...what really happens is the teachers won't teach because they're not backed by the schools...say a teacher gets her purse robbed or a crime is committed against her or him the school would probably fire the teacher if she pressed charges...it's not exactly how it is but it's very close...in bigger cities it's worse...when i went to public school i had a teacher say you show up i'll give you a "C" if you actually do any work i'll give you an "A" with that kind of high goals it's not a wonder why American eduacation is ranked way down in so called 1st world natons...when it's quickly becoming a 3rd world nation...take away Ipods and cellphones, gameboys and i think it is a 3rd world nation.
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"I know i tunes is not a lossless format" - you can rip the CD's into apple lossless files through iTunes. Just click import settings before the disk starts importing and change the format to apple lossless. It's not quite perfect compared to the HDCD's, but it at least gives you a bitrate equivalent to a normal CD. It takes up a fair bit of space though.
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Aw shucks....this is taking way too long. Can they move they ship date up to March 1st?
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On February 23rd, 2011 SPACEBROTHER said: > Aw shucks....this is taking way too long. Can they move they ship date up to March 1st? I thought April 1st was the original cut off date for orders. Give them about a month to create the original 7200 orders, and early May (05/02/11) would be a great shipping date.
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...but I seriously doubt they're gonna ship the box sets much before September. Gonna be interesting to see how cancelled/abandoned personalized box set orders are handled too, there's bound to be a few of those when the big day approaches.
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would be fine, BUT .... tax on flights out of the UK now often cost more than the flight, AND, of course, the exchange rate is fucked from OPV compared with a couple of years back. So it costs a bomb to get over now. No, we're taxed till we squeak and then some.
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I hear you guys it is indeed a long way until September! -- I got an itch that needs scratching! --I got a fever and the only cure is more Cowbell and Europe 72 Complete! A modest proposal: I urge everyone to offer an additional U.S. $10 as an incentive to have this monster shipped before the start of Summer. It would rather be like a government construction contract in which a bonus is offered to get the job done ASAP! It would be my dream to get it early, and my nightmare to drive past The Rhino/Dead.net plant and see all the worker standing around doing nothing more than drinking cans of beer!
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I don't understand how they can charge the same amount of $85 to mail the box to Toronto as Europe? Meanwhile, there are companies near the border (Buffalo & Niagara Falls) where you can pay $5 to get something mailed to them & you have 30 days to pick it up. Maybe some of us would like to go together & split the gas cost? It shouldn't be much trouble to call in & change the shipping info.
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Thanks to cosmicbadger for the link to the Norman interview. Remember this link to answer the questions like: "why doesn't it sound like europe '72?" "where's the crowd?" and quite possibly "the mixing seems rushed" "why isn't this mix as great as X-release?" Surprised that it sounds like they hadn't started mixing until recently. He says "week 2 of 22" at about the 9:15 mark.
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...until just a couple of weeks ago at the earliest. If it's as fancy as we're led to believe the manufacturing isn't like making a Fillmore box, or even that wooden thing the Warlocks set came in. Getting the items scheduled into the various subcontractors isn't trivial. Getting the book alone completed, proofed and published is a big job on it's own. I'd rather have it late and grate than sooner and good enough.
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Thanks for the link, so tptb gave him 22 weeks to do this, and he likes to do a song a day, that doesn't seem like enough time to me. Hopefully they will give this the time and energy it deserves, and not a polished up, edited and redubed so so product. That would suck. Imho Norman polishes his mixes too much, ie...nightfall of diamonds, sounds so clean it almost doesn't sound real, altho hundred year hall has a rich and full sound, lets hope Mr. Norman does it the rich and full concert sound vs the polished up super clean sound. Very interesting interview, worth a listen.
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I would rather have them take the time to do it right than rush it. As long of a time as it is until September, I don't mind if it takes longer to assure the highest standard. Heck, we've waited 39 years for this release. Whats a few more months?
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What does a dick pick have to do with Europe 72? If a dick pick was the last US show what does that got to do with Europe being good or not...anything from 1969-1973 is going to be grade A even better if it's professionally recorded and not just a mere soundboard or an audience recording...and if it's put out by them it's going to be pretty good...off the top of my head i really can't really recall any dick pick that was inferior in anyway, but i might've forgotten or avoided the bad one's subsciounsciously...i do that i subconsciously avoid bad recordings without consciously saying okay that's a bad recording of a dead show...hey 450$ is alot to spend but it's not bad if it's for something you really love or will play often...something like this i know i'll be playing for the rest of my life on at least a somewhat regular basis...so i have no regrets, i may feel sad when i have a huge bill to pay but that's the way those things go...and i've been scammed, cheated, falsified and lied to about paying out money so at least with this i'll have something in my hand to show for it...i've paid over 100$ for a dinner for 2...paid close to 1,000$ for a 3-4 day vacation, 500$ for a medical test where they didn't find the results...so if we sit down and think about all the times we paid out money for something that didn't pan out we'd be sick to death...with this we're getting a beautiful product i don't doubt that for 1 second that this won't be a beautiful product because all of the others were beautiful to me...when i say beautiful i mean packaging, the music, the looks of it
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is well worth the every penny,60 cds i gotta work all week so only got limited listening times, will take a couple of months to get through this...... cant wait!!
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this was an amazing tour!!!
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. . . for the music only sets, if you're interested in a full box set. I notice a few folks on this forum continuing to post, asking for verification codes, so they can order the full box set. You can still put your name on the music only list, and thereby "get in line" for any abandoned opportunities to order the full set. And I'll probably get a music-only copy anyway, to listen to, and put an unopened box set in a time capsule until 2072! This is Thursday, 2/24 and the last week's round of codes made available as a miracle chance to order "one of the 7,200 thought-to-be-gone boxed sets," are expiring. The next round of miracle verification codes will be good through Monday, 2/28, so the availability for the 7,200 full sets may be winding down. Also, I was wondering whether someone in the U.S. mailing a set overseas as a gift would incur an import duty or VAT? Or someone mailing it as a gift from Canada? The David Gans interviews are well worth listening to (see link below). Cheers, Laser
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On February 24th, 2011 laser said: Also, I was wondering whether someone in the U.S. mailing a set overseas as a gift would incur an import duty or VAT? Or someone mailing it as a gift from Canada? Laser, Sorry to inform you that gifts of vatable items are still subject to the tax. Otherwise the system would be open to abuse. Not that any Deadhead would ever be so devious or unscrupulous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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September 2011 is just around the corner.... All good things in all good time....patience. There are two Road Trip planned releases until then, PLUS *perhaps* another general public release in the vein of "Crimson, White & Indigo","To Terrapin: Hartford '77" and "Rocking The Cradle: Egypt 1978" just to name the last few. I have lots of patience and there is fun between now and September 2011. Things will work out just fine.
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Of course it is better to wait than get something sooner but below par, despite my offer of $ as an incentive for a quicker delivery date. I do agree that it should not be too polished lest it become sterile. At btetree and lossless legs I often find some audience recordings which I enjoy more than soundboards because of crowd noise/ambiance. It gives a 'you are there' feel. The matrices that hard working Heads create are a nice balance. And as one poster said there are the road trips to to scratch the itch in the meantime and perhaps some other releases.
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On days you work you can't listen to the grateful dead??...i guess your boss lives with you in your home and doesn't allow you to listen to the dead so save it for the weekend when he goes out to the country...gee on days i work i work then come home and straight to bed so i'll be nice and fresh to be bored to death the next day for my boss at work...if i had it my way i'd say, NO BOX SET FOR YOU!!! NEXT!!!! Jeez!!! But seriously whether you work or not it's still going to be a great box set and listening time each day is a variable...i didn't say i'd be listening to it 24 hours a day...but i'm sure it'll be out next to the stereo for a long time...i'm sure i won't be putting this on any shelf or closet for a long time...sometimes i wonder if some dead heads also have their brains that are dead along with their heads
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........the Taper's Section, Dead Hour and Jam of the Week posted here every week. Plenty to listen to until September.
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Tony said: sometimes i wonder if some dead heads also have their brains that are dead along with their heads Hmmm, let me think about this. Could I be brain dead along with my head? I hope I’m not one of those. No way am I a brain dead deadhead. What could be worse than that?? That can’t be me, I hope.. However, I am certainly a deadhead; always have been since the beginning… and I know that I have been through this and that, these and those over the years, so am I brain dead, too? If I am, how would I know? Everyone around me seems to be the same. Yikes!
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Guys! Somehow I cannot overcome feeling let down. What does "exclusive" or "limited-edition"mean? Why buy 6 months ahead? I had this same feeling having purchased the Filmore West box-set, "exclusive" too, and you guys released a 4-CD pack on its heels. Come on guys! No is asking for "exclusive" or "limited-editions" to the Music. Make it available freely according to demand. Do not put a "limited-edition" tag to it. It leaves a bitter after-taste of having fallen for a marketing gimmick. Us Deadheads do not need to be hyped to buy GD Music. Make it available according to demand and do not put tags to it!
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...it's just the fancy packaging that got limited. And that book will become available separately, I'll bet. And we're not really buying six months ahead, we're reserving six months ahead (although the price of the box set is tied up for a few days during the account verification process; no money is actually transferred). I'm sure that if a person contacted TPTB during the course of the next six months to cancel their reservation it would be done.
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Don't be such a selfish person...true other people will have it but you wouldn't care unless you were hoping to sell it for a GRAND...personally i don't sell my dead products so i don't care if it's limited or not...if tomorrow they said the fillmore is coming out with 100,000 additional copies i'd be glad for those people...both fans and the dead because it's money in both parties pockets in that case, rather than neither...nah i don't begrudge people of the joy of the dead...i really think it was a mistake on the dead's part i really think they believed it would tap out at 7,000 and they weren't even sure/confident they'd get 3,000...the 1st posts warn without 3,000 orders this won't happen so it proves they weren't sure the demand was there...now somehow find the soundboards of all the 1980 acoustic/electric shows and we'll call it a day...after that it can go back to 1-4 shows at a time...i know alot of people say they don't exist anymore and i believe them but what if they did exist wouldn't that be an obvious super duper box set?? Being a deadhead and being braindead is 2 different animals.
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the Beatles did the same thing 2 years ago with their mono box set and they changed their minds...if you bought due to the limited edition than you weren't exactly duped because it is still a limited edition of a particular version...only so many will have the book and fake tickets, road map etc...then it's just a music edition after that and it's a very fair compromise so i stand behind the dead on this one...i think this box set is shipping soon because my order status says processing...they can't be processing it for the next 6 months can they??
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No we were not duped and the time factor is a question mark -- it probably won't ship until September though. I think it is limited though given the lack of reissuing Fillmore West Complete 1969. I agree though that since there is a market for more E72 complete and Fillmore 1969 10 cd they could and should be reissued. I am not buying E72 to make some bucks down the road. no it is just for the sheer joy of music! It he Dead want to produce more than 7200 E72 complete,or Fillmore 1969 10cd, despite what they initially said, that is OK with me. Why deny fans the joy? And F the 'collectors market' on eBay!
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The ship date will be determined by how quickly this thread gets to 7200 posts, so post early and often my friends! There definitely should be a countdown clock for this release.
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so start saving $2.39 per day LOL. Listening to that interview with Jeffery Norman it sounds like they're gonna need every minute of the next 6 - 7 months to get the tapes mastered and and the CDs produced. I believe his schedule allowed for 22 weeks to get the tapes mastered - 19 weeks or so left now - I guess they can start burning CDs as soon as shows get completed but it's still gonna be the end of June before all the mastering is done. I don't expect a Vault release this year aside from this one though, I don't see how they'll have time. This box and the Road Trips releases will probably use up all the resources they have.
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to those complaining about e-bay and collectors - unless you don't collect anything you have no right to critize those that do collect things.I'm sure most 99.9% of the public collect something or have something in their possession that they deem collectible.
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I don't know what you mean criticizing I'm not criticizing collectors but I'm put off by releases like this being a seller's business opportunity...and I know everyone has to eat but there's got to be other ways to do it...so morally the dead should make sure everyone gets one that wants one...so if someone wants to pay 10,000$ for a Jerry Garcia love note to a girlfriend that's different...i mean the one's who bought this are paying 450$ and that's a handsome price but not really poor value...maybe to a casual listener it'll make ZERO since to have 22 versions of Truckin' and things of that elk...basically in love notes, "I love you" is said often.
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Helena said; I don't expect a Vault release this year aside from this one though, I don't see how they'll have time. This box and the Road Trips releases will probably use up all the resources they have. Well I'm sure the Road Trips is ready to rip, as is a spring / early summer release ala Crimsome, White & Indigo. Hopefully we'll get another CD/DVD. Seems to me over the last few years there has been a vault release in the Spring and a Box Set in the fall, that have been from the same year. 2009 - Spring - To Terrapin 05/28/77 , Fall - Winterland 06/07-08-09/77 Box 2010 - Spring - JFK Philly 07/07/89 , Fall - Hampton 10/08-09/89 Cigar Box 2011 - Spring - ????? , Fall - Europe 72 Complete Recordings So, this brings up the question. What's the most requested show of 1972 ? What about Veneta 08/27/72 aka Sunshine Daydream. We know for years there's been talk / promises of this coming out as a DVD. Also due out on March 29th from Rhino / Flashback is another Greatest Hits CD ; Flashback With The Grateful Dead. This is a buget price release already up for pre-order from CD Universe.com , Barns & Noble, Amazon, Best Buy and everyother online seller. Track Listing: Truckin'; China Cat Sunflower; Unbroken Chain; U.S. Blues; The Music Never Stopped; Shakedown Street; Alabama Getaway; Throwing Stones; Standing On the Moon; Touch of Grey; ~♥☼ღ♥♪♫♪♫☮♥The Music Never Stops♥☮ ♫♪♫♪♥ღ☼♥~
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A spring Vault release is certainly feasible. One has to assume that all the Road Trips for this year are sorted and from David Gans' interview with Jeffrey Norman we know that he has not been busy with Europe '72 for very long. A spring Vault release could/should/would already have been done by now for it to come out in a couple of months time so it seems perfectly possible. Veneta would indeed be very welcome, but would they bring out yet more '72 this year - or indeed next spring, hot on the heels of Europe '72. I guess we will just have to wait and see. As we are all firmly in waiting mode for the next 6 months or so, that shouldn't be to hard.
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From the GD. My opinion is why even bother? Put the effort into more live shows for crying out loud. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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...with a spring Vault release and a DVD, but the E72 box is more than twice the size of the last two years worth of Vault releases, combined. I don't know how far ahead they work on the releases though, as of a few months ago they hadn't even decided what the RT shows were going to be except for the first one, if you believe what they were saying.
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Road trips for this year are 4 with 1 in the past...the one in May will be the only one with a bonus disc...originally they had a special where you could buy all 4 upfront and save on shipping which is sometimes riddiculus and sometimes reasonable...not to say via the dead but other sites...not that i would go on another band's site...i would agree with Helena that a vault release probably won't happen this year...and i'm not sure if they've had vault every year anyway...i know there was a long time between the last dick pick and the 1st road trip, not sure how long it was, definitely at least 1 year, could've been 3 years but not sure...again i wasn't starving for Dead material but got interested when they started releasing them again i've liked the releases they've had with road trips overall and am very pleased with the sound quality almost always.
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Strange how us Deadheads always want more, I know I do. I have every release the GD have put out in my own vault. Like a wine cellar with plenty of great choices. I'll be happy with the 5 RT releases then the Crown Jewel arrives in Sept. This will be one of the best years yet. Coconut Phil, living Free.
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I think that the Greatest Hits CD's serve a useful purpose. I was born in 1990 and I didn't get on the Bus until '05. My first introduction to the Grateful Dead came from listening to a cassette tape of Skeletons from the Closet in my Dad's car growing up. It gave me a taste for something, which as I matured I began to thirst for more and more. The first Dead album I owned in my own right was The Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack, which I picked up in '05. It was an awesome chance to dive into the deep end as it were, but there was a definite time stamp on it. That was what the dead sounded like in that era yes, but not what they sounded like five years prior, five years later, ten years after, or twenty years from then. As I embarked upon my Deaducation The Very Best of The Grateful Dead, my second or third Grateful Dead acquisition, really helped to serve me as a cursory introduction and as a signpost in my long strange trip across time and space retrospectively following the history of the Grateful Dead while I was simultaneously getting to know RatDog, Phil Lesh and Friends, The Dead, and Further whenever they blew into town. In short, I really think that greatest hits releases are really valuable in turning new generations onto the music. Also to be Frank I think that Warner Bros./Rhino have figured out that there are some veteran fans (like a good chunk of those who post on this board) who will buy anything and everything for the sake of having everything ever released by the band that we all love and has touched our lives so profoundly.
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...fast and cheap, really good margins for the publisher and if they stick one track on 'em that isn't available on other releases even the people that own all the other tracks will buy 'em. Hey The Weve, where did you find that tracklisting?
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  • I Woke Today
    3 years 4 months ago
    Is the "All the Music Edition" still available

    besides looking at the resale sites, are the All the music edition of Europe '72 still available on the Dead website for purchase?

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    Gergg
    3 years 7 months ago
    What to hear after this

    I've been neck deep in this box for a month and its awesome. I'm pretty close to hearing the whole tour but have lost track to be honest. If I wanted to dig this deep into another batch of Dead that would represent the band's next step in their development after the 72 tour what would it be?

  • marye
    4 years ago
    alas no
    these were all snapped up years ago, though you may find someone willing to part with theirs.