• January 19, 2011
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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
    Check back soon for more product images.

    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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They are going the extra mile to make these complete shows and the songs are in order even if it means a couple extra discs ... the whole enchilada!! Awesome! Thanks everyone for putting in the extra work to make this release extra special =) =) Now.... if I could just get my credit card ordeal worked out it would make me rest a whole lot easier.. all I can say is I shouldn't have used a card that expired in Feb to order this .. I just hope this ordering "system" doesn't happen again, you know, make us place an order and then not actually charge the card for 8 months, just make it easy and take the money when the order is placed. I'm begging you PLEASE, I'm on my knees, Bertha don't you come around here any more!!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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What is the source for this information? Hopefully it's true. I now patiently wait for September even more so... :-) :-) :-) ;-) ;-0
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This 72 thing is starting to remind of that Darren Aronofsky movie, π. Just listened to the free early download of the 4/14/72 Playing in the Band and I'm loving Bob and Donna's vocals. Ahh 11 min 27 sec of bliss.
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I didn't get crap, yet. So if the disc count has gone up more than ten per cent, the box will be physically bigger so the packaging design can't have been finalized and fabrication hasn't been started - but surely they've had the packaging production scheduled somewhere (you can't just show up at a place and say "dude, whip me off 7,200 of these, wouldja?") but the quoted price/unit will need to be renegotiated because the design has been changed LOL. Six months to go... I wonder which show Mr. Norman is up to now?
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I just saw that in my previous post it looks like I was saying the movie is titled "n" when actually I was trying to type the symbol for Pi as in the number 3.141592654
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How fitting 72 discs !
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Anyone can go to a plant and say I'll need 8,000 CDs, boxsets in this case...they'd be happy for the order and the work...most labels will go to a giants production house when they have a big order...i don't know how the dead do it, obviously the road trips are printed up as they see fit...i really don't know how many they print up anyone on here feel free to guess...i didnt' ever see it in a store but that doesn't mean much since there's not alot of CD stores around these days...only very small one's do i see that's usaully only part of a store...but it's now 72 discs and we made the order already so i don't think the price will change...and i don't think 10 more discs will change the box much...instead of some shows being 2 and 3 alot more will be 3 and a few 4...so how hard will that be? I think they want it just as much as we do because they stand to make some $$$$$ and we stand to get some decent music for a change...better than that radiohead crap...i tried to understand radiohead but i just don't get it, to me it sounds like electronic noise.
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While there were a few snags and maybe a hiccup or two, I always felt they were genuine. What I mean is that there was never any doubt in my mind that the intention was for the highest quality project possible. I believe we will be amazed when this finally shows up at our doors. 72 discs. cannot wait.
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I didn't say "discs" I was talking about the packaging. dang, I actually read one of your posts LOL.
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What's the difference...packing for just 10% more discs could be nothing at all...i forgot this is the age of 2 or 3 words and people wonder why America is 71 in education...also alot of the discs is a matter of putting them in 3-4 instead of 2-3...they'll be sets probably 20-24 sets and inside discs...besides it's their problem not ours and overall they've done well through the years...i disagree with the wooden box a little but i didn't get upset or cry i just don't understand the wood part for the last box set

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Read 'em and weep (in delight) : "While we try our hardest for accuracy, we were a bit off in our original count of the CDs included in the Europe '72 boxed set. Now that we're rolling full-steam ahead on the mixing and mastering of the boxed set, we've decided to not break up any segued jam sequences that took place on the tour to squeeze the longer shows onto 3 CDs per show, nor will we be re-sequencing any shows to make them fit onto 3 CDs. What this means is that several shows will need to be bumped up to 4 CDs per show, resulting in the boxed set now containing 72 CDs, an increase from the 60+ discs we originally told you. No, that number is not a gimmick, it just happened that 72 is where the final tally landed, much to our surprise. Sure hope you don't mind..."

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Of course America is 71st (7101st?) in education ~ hello, George W. Bush was elected president TWICE. I caught some $h!t from a couple of African guys in London for it, too, on Lady Liberty's behalf two summers ago ~ until one of them broke down and admitted he was from Zimbabwe (you wanna talk about a bad president......). Steins of solidarity were affectionately clinked. Then again, look at this here box set. Look what brilliance America produced and exported to your side of the water!

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I posted this elsewere, but wanted to here (after my previous sign-off about 200 pages back on this thread)..... I'm SO GLAD I reconsidered at the last minute when I got a last-chance e-mail opportunity to do so last week. All the bitching had really bummed me out early on, and it didn't feel good.....now it feels great again, and I'm excited. 72 cds now? Even the music-only orders are now undeniably a great bargain at $ 450.00 and each show still individually packaged. Still can't even imagine seeing this instant vault sitting right in front of me. Both gluttonous and glorious, I'm sure..........he gleamed.
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Well, it sure was nice to wake up to that e-mail this morning, telling me about the 72 discs, and giving up a free download. I nice Playin' to start the day.
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so now we are obsessing about how they are going to fit 72 discs in a box!!! Whatever next? Spring is coming folks: time to get out and about a bit maybe? :-)
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to write a borderline incoherent, ungrammatical, run-on post bemoaning the state of US education, in which I implicitly criticize everyone else's intellect while ironically showing I don't even know what punctuation is, but I guess I was beaten to the punch!
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I am surprised the Dead didn't take a movie crew along with them to Europe. Europe 72 would have made an excellent feature film. A documentary of their travels as well as their legendary performances. Of course they eventually filmed and released the Winterland October '74 shows as THE GRATEFUL DEAD MOVIE, but Europe 72 would have been the greatest motion picture project. Very little footage actually exists of the tour and that's a shame.
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I'm American i was upset with "i actually read one of your posts" because they're not 3-4 words and use abrevations...like whoever says LOL or WTF or BRB or TTYL even before internet jargon came about...I can tell you why America is low on the list but nobody cares the truth of it is the schools aren't safe for nobody girls, teachers and nerds sure the gangsta types will survive but they don't learn nothing either also throw into the mix there's no order in schools...and it stems down to our leaders continously doing the easiest thing possible most of the time it's doing nothing and at times the most lucrative to them as possible, sure we can say we can be thankful and our leaders didn't do what other nations leaders have done to them but this is America once and probably still is the most priviledged country to live in but we're suddenly going downward in our standards, downward fast other nations are probably laughing at us...anyway i'm DEAD-pleased with the bumping up to 72 discs...it was someone else who was worried that the set would be too big for her to lift up i suppose...it's still not warm in my part of the country...i'm sure in California and Florida with some other states it's beautiful...maybe in a few weeks it'll get nice here.
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But only in the delusion you were saying something coherent and therefore falsifiable. So I'll just say: there's no evidence the US is "suddenly going downward in our [educational] standards." If a fool says we're all becoming fools, only a fool would believe it.
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Dead.net is listing the info on the Music Only edition and letting you add it to the cart but the item hasn't officially been put into inventory yet, so it can't be ordered, even though you can go through the checkout process through the last step. So give the inventory masters time to get it into circulation before trying to order! (See the front page for the news on the sold out box sets.) Cheers, Laser
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Thanks for the help with the download. That was complicated! I appreciate it. Not that PITB is bad after 72, just not as great for me. Not sure why....I generally like anything 65-78 87-91 and random's here in there.
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i spend most of my available dead time between 68 and 74 like many of you i assume but i just noticed furthur is doing something cool this tour (this may have been widely discussed in some forums but i havent seen it anywhere)... on 3/4 furthur played come together 3/5 had something (sung nicely by john k) 3/6 had maxwell's silver hammer 3/8 had oh darling there are 5 shows in NYC prior to the only furthur show i can attend this season... in fairfax va if the trend keeps up i should hear a tune from the meat of the side2 AR medley... "here comes the sun king" perhaps? i wonder if john russo will sing octopus's garden anyway they do seem to keep finding new ways to make it extra interesting (beside just laying down the great jams)
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Hey leedesj I noticed the same thing regarding Furthur playing different tracks form the Beatles Abbey Road but have not checked on the song sequence. It does seem like they are on track to perform Abbey Road piece by piece. Yes John k sang Something very nicely. What I really liked is the way he took that familiar solo and and added to it taking it higher while retaining the familiar licks. Nicely done. imagine them playing She' So Heavy!
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john k does a great job of combining respect for the original but adding his own fresh take on almost everything he touches and the swinging rhythm thing they did during the "You're asking me will my love grow" part was pretty cool too i never paid too much attention to DSO (just lack of time) but when i saw john k and furthur for the first time in hampton 13 months ago and they opened with shakedown i knew i was gonna love this "band" the only other furthur shows i have made it to so far were the philly mann center ones last july, from my location at those shows the back up singers were just behind john k in my line of site, visually i could make them all three meld into one amorphous mass that at the time appeared a bit like a huge jerry-esque apparition, and blues for allah blew me away of course i wish i could have been around (in person) for all the early 70s action, but phil and bob are clearly sticking with their commitment to play till they drop hey the GD's 50th aniversary is coming soon in 2015, one would think that bill and mickey would get involved with some kind of music along with phil and bob for that (not that i dont think russo is fabulous with them)
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Alot of people in the United States don't want to look at the truth because the truth is upsetting...far as Education goes we're ranked 15th in Reading, 25th in Math, 20th in Science...far as proof goes just look up United States education rankings...I don't know where proof goes...keep believing the lies your polluticians keep telling you...better yet zone out on the dead, because hopefully soon we'll all be dead and meet up again in the kingdom of heaven with our Europe 1972 box sets in hand to be played on our brand new hi fi stereo systems...jobs are a joke, there's nothing but lousy low paying jobs out there...in 2001 you could actually negioate a salary now there's no negioating your supposed to take what they give you or get off the line.
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It seems that the Rhino marketing dept. was correct after all & all the excess orders came from obsessive Deadheads repeadedly clicking while the order system was crashing. I wonder if they will make/sell all 7,200 sets?
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What I object to is that one could order more than 1 box set per order, especially when the original product was a limited run, and the price per set was not cheap. My idea was one box set per order, for a more even distribution. There should have been a restriction of one unit per order. What I did like was that there is a second edition - music only - which is probably limited, but at a higher number of units being produced. I am happy that the final tally of discs was higher than what was originally projected. I am very happy the whole tour was sold as one fell swoop. I was able to order 1 copy of the original box set, and being one of the first 3000 orders, my box set will be "personalized." I am grateful to all those who are producing this set. September seems a long way off, but six months can go by quite quickly if you look at it right.. Patience is a virtue.
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There was alot people requesting numbers and doing it again and again but they sold out of the 7200 orders regardless meaning they do have all 7200 orders...hence the music only edition, that wasn't the original intent but there's a demand for more so why not...if you were selling a box set for 450$ and there was a demand for more wouldn't you figure out a way to sell more?? They realized what they said so only 7200 copies will get the royal deluxe treatment of book and other stuff thrown in like a map and tickets (fake) of course you'd be 40 years late if they weren't...the beef is same price for the music only since it's minus all that but you do get the music and although not entirely fair but i wouldn't want to go through the rest of my life without the complete 1972 european tour because of some non-music book, although promises to be handsome but at the same time it's not music and you listen to a band for their music and not the pictures...did anyone ever buy a Beatles album or a Britney Spears album for the pictures??? Did anyone ever manipulate their image by adding a poster inside an Album or CD? The answer is yes but that's more like for the teens...i think i saw life size cardboard cut outs of Bieber who i think absolutely sucks...he's like a real poor man's Michael Jackson, like a welfare Michael Jackson.
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Wouldn't it be nice if we could all go on an acid trip and not become conscious again until september...of course we would've all lost our jobs and/or businesses long before september but it's the concept...love the fact the bears sleep through the entire winter

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Please.....don't forsake Pigpen's organ in the mix when it's there to be heard!
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I'm sure when the Beatles released Sgt. Pepper, many fans were enticed by the cover; one of the greatest most interesting rock covers ever. Zappa even wanted to satire it. Rock music was dominated by one shot singles at that time and that package helped change the was people thought about buying music. In rock, 45's started giving was towards the lp. That cover was part of the stratagy. Why would the Beatles put so much work into it if they didn't feel strongly about it? Covers and books are not the same "gimmick" as a poster. When I was growing up an interesting cover showed that the band payed attention to detail and tried to incorporate a compatable artist that also had guiding vision. Hardly geared toward the teeny-boppers. The Bealtes Mono box and Europe 72 sets are apple and oranges and while Rhino put a number on the boxes the Bealtes did not include a cap. I would imagine the remaining survivors of the Dead and spouses had the final say on the lease of time or amount of units that could have been manufactered. I doubt they would go into litigation with each over the extension of unit limits, but stranger things have happened. And no customers should be able to cry fowl over not having a "collectable" because the sets are not paid for or delivered yet. I feel it was an easier solution to just create music only sets and seems to follow the idea of "the path of least resistance." As a music teacher and jazz historian, I think the liners are an extremely valuable addition to a jazz recording. Prominant record lables in the 50's and 60's felt the same way. They hired some of the greatest journalists such as Leonard Feather, Nat Hentoff and later Michael Cuscana to provide insight into the records. Maybe it seemed less important in that era. 50 years later these written contributions are invaluable. Why? In the span of 2 or 3 years, ideas in jazz would turn, topple and change according to which way the wind was blowing, or so it may seem to someone not familiar with the social trends of the day; civil rights playing a major role in jazz development and wether the artist felt like taking a risk in a volitile climate. Perhaps also, why after they did, they were part of few recordings afterword. These are things that are very important for future generations to have access to. I have 70 Mosaic limited edition jazz sets and value the books and essays that tie the scope of the projects together. Without these books there would be nowhere else to go for the information that congeals these sessions and projects together as well as provide any information on the long deceased artists. I was 6 when I saw the Dead for the first time; Tower Theatre in 1976. Like many of the posters, I've seen them about 120 times since, mostly in the 70's and 80's. I've heard most of the shows from Europe 72 but I don't have the first hand experience. However, if surviving members of the Dead valued the insights of the writer(s), of the accompanying book, then I, not having been old enough to experience the Europe 72 tour first hand, have to rely on those who have that experience to share it, and I welcome it. Truethfully, I'm grateful that they decided to contribute to the project. Sure, there is no shortage of Dead tomes on the market, but this book is project specific. and while it may be out of fashion , I know a lot of people that still enjoys reading. The book should be available to everyone buying a set, IMO. Thankfully, I did get one of the sets from the first emailing, and frankly I could have taken the maps, ticket reprints, personalization etc., or not. That is not to detract from the work of the art dept. I'm sure the work will be top notch. However, the book and some sort of sturdy box to house the massive set would have been the deal breaker for me for $450. I wouldn't have complained about the "music edition" if those two items were included. Still, considering the set wasn't even in production yet, other than the fact that they wanted a nice serendiptous number like 7200, no one should have been left out. We can make suppositions as to Rhino's methodology and marketing stratagys until Sept., but nothing is going to change. They achieved the results that they were striving for, whether calculated or not, and still managed to secure more sales after the initial 7200. I sincerely hope that everyone that wanted one got what they wanted. We have a few months before it comes out. Spring is around the corner, then summer, two of my favorate seasons. No shortage of Dead shows to listen to either. Lot's of great things things coming and things to be grateful for.
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Those numbers are very similar to what they were a dozen years ago. No great decline is in there. Also, the numbers mask some very revealing data about sub-groups in America. Reading and Math scores for minority populations (blacks, Latinos), while still trailing those of whites on average, have experienced massive gains. That's a good thing, that improvement. Meanwhile, if white students' scores were disaggregated from the totals they would rank significantly higher (for example, American white students average Science scores on the PISA scale would place them at about the 7th rank against other nations). In other words, they'd be quite comparable to the other, much more mono-cultural nations to which the PISA scale compares them. I realize you are wedded to a story of bleak decline, but the data doesn't bear it out.

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Gretsch, I couldn't agree more about liner notes and cover art. The latter sets a mood and a personality unique to that moment & selection of songs. This is why I will ALWAYS prefer CDs to downloads. And, yes, I learned so much about my favorite jazz artists (and the musicians that supported them) from those original period liner notes (that I was reading in the CD era)! ~ love Mike Cuscuna's historical perspectives, as well. I really do think the $ 450.00 music-only deal is still a steal, what with each show still including its own liner notes & packaging ~ along with the simple math of 72 discs for the price. Might be nice if they're able to offer the hardback book separately for a nominal price, or it just might be a limited collector's item ~ which is certainly not without precedent since the earliest days of treasury edition record sets (my Dad's Al Jolson & Dean Martin boxes from the 50's or 60's had books ~ though admittedly for as long as those sets were in print). I believe a limited run of the original Let It Be LPs on vinyl came with a hardback book with alot more photos than the standard gatefold ~ not sure, though, if it was initially the same cost or cost extra (but I know that once they were gone, they were gone). Anyway, I'm with you ~ I hope everyone got, or is able to get, what they wanted. The bottom line is (unlike the Fillmore box), everyone who wants to can get the entire Europe '72 tour!!! How amazing is that.
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True this is America and if you really wanted to be Edu-mud-cated you can do that if you really want to...there's libraries, there's universities (most not affordable), but there's really alot of opportunities if you really go for it to become educated in one way or another...of course you can listen to the grateful and become very intelligent based on the rich lyrics of Robert Hunter and others...the BEATLES in england EMI released a limited edition book which i saw in a record store once and it was stills from the movie let it be...although i guess nice but nothing to go insane over...the dead book will or has a chance to be very good depending on who's doing it and how much work they want to put into it...but most people will agree now that the music is still the priority and a book is nice but nothing to cry over...yes that let it be was limited and only issued in England...America Capital if you study the Beatles did more to screw up the Beatles and were so unsupportive of the group it's almost hysterical...1) they turned down the 1st 4 singles gave it away to other labels...as subsidary of EMI, capital in America didn't have to pick up their releases...ok, they issued "I want to hold your hand" (the 1st capital issued single), it goes to #1 but they sign off on the "A hard day's night" soundtrack and give it to United Artists...then they release this real cheap albums like the "Beatles Story" ...the infamous "Yesterday and Today" (originally the Butcher album)...it was really a label trying to mess up on purpose it seemed...oh yeah the cheap stereo and fake stereo issues...i grew up in the 80's and as a kid i knew the American releases were crap i had to get the English releases which were much better in mono...only Abbey Road and Let it Be were not issued in Mono...so that's the state of the union for now...the dead releases of their live music has been great...not a big fan of the studio releases but i have them all for reference mostly although i like the 1st 3-5 releases...Everybody like American Beauty and Working Dead...some will like Axomora? can't count the live albums as that's assumed to be great and listened to all the time by everyone.
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I surrender. Your ability to create an unparsable stream of jabber is something to swoon before, not attempt dialog with.
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Phil spoke eloquently about his death, moving onward to the continued existence, on Sunday's Furthur show. I, of course, did not know him, but, his family friends, and, his self are in my prayers tonight.
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Some of you deadheads are also dead in the head...alot of you aren't able to have an intelligent conversation and don't understand much beyond 2 or 3 words, which is cool because society is like that now...most of you have some mudane job that promises no tomorrow or not much of one...it's like the planet of the apes in some ways a decadent and upside society that's also silently dieing off...but hey we'll have our dead box set in september, we'll hear some vibes but most of you will listen to it but not comprehend it you just want it so you can be cool...this is mostly for the younger deadheads, the older deadheads i can tell who you are and your able to hold intelligent conversations...but i do have sympathy for the young of today as there's not alot of high paying jobs and if you do have one you probably won't have it for long unless you sacrifice yourself and join the military, which is a real commitement and sacrifice of your very life...alot is kept hidden about the war, we don't know for sure how many are dieing each day and/or getting hurt, not to mention civilians as they're people too, i think alot of that gets forgotten too...but enjoy your box sets as millions in japan are homeless and hungry tonight...not forgetting all the one's that perished via drowning to death and/or other related mishaps due to the disasters...sometimes i just feel like joining Jerry Garcia, Pigpen in the afterlife myself and leaving this horrible world behind...if it wasn't for this release i'd probably be dead already, but i'll stick around until it comes out...by then who knows maybe radio city 1980 will be in the works.
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"sometimes i just feel like joining Jerry Garcia, Pigpen in the afterlife myself and leaving this horrible world behind..." Please tell us your kidding! Don't talk like that. Keep on truckin Tony.
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Sounds lke me a lot of the time! I do think you miss the boat on deadheads though, especially the ones between 45-65. There is still a lot of interesting space being explored and all doesn't have to do with money or a lack of empathy. Not saying there aren't some knuckle-scraping deadheads -- I just find them few and far between and try to stay out of their way! Reject depression and bummers and look for the brighter side,
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You need professional psychological help. Get those negative thoughts out of your head - and never post them in a public forum like this. Out side of that, you're a real nice person. Read the Terms Of Use for http://www.dead.net, again. Rules of Conduct. In using the Site, you agree to obey the law, respect the rights of others and avoid objectionable, defamatory or disruptive behavior. In addition, you will comply with the following “Rules of Conduct” as updated from time to time by us. You will not: • Post, transmit, or otherwise make available, through or in connection with the Site: o Anything that is or may be (a) threatening, harassing, degrading, hateful or intimidating; (b) defamatory; (c) fraudulent or tortious; (d) obscene, indecent, pornographic or otherwise objectionable; or (e) protected by copyright, trademark, trade secret, right of publicity or other proprietary right without the express prior consent of the owner of such right. o Any material that would give rise to criminal or civil liability; that encourages conduct that constitutes a criminal offense; that promotes gambling; or that encourages or provides instructional information about illegal activities or activities such as “hacking,” “cracking” or “phreaking.” o Any virus, worm, Trojan horse, Easter egg, time bomb, spyware or other computer code, file, or program that is harmful or invasive or may or is intended to damage or hijack the operation of, or to monitor the use of, any hardware, software or equipment. o Any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letter," "pyramid scheme" or investment opportunity, or any other form of solicitation. o Any material non-public information about a company without the proper authorization to do so. • Use the Site for any fraudulent or unlawful purpose. • Use the Site to defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights of others, including without limitation others’ privacy rights or rights of publicity, or harvest or collect personally identifiable information about other users of the Site. • Impersonate any person or entity, including any of our (or our affiliates’) representatives; falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with any person or entity; or express or imply that we endorse any statement or posting you make. • Interfere with or disrupt the operation of the Site or the servers or networks used to make the Site available; or violate any requirements, procedures, policies or regulations of such networks. • Restrict or inhibit any other person from using the Site (including by hacking or defacing any portion of the Site). • Use the Site to advertise or offer to sell or buy any goods or services without our express prior written consent. • Reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell or otherwise exploit for any commercial purposes, any portion of, use of, or access to the Site. • Except as expressly permitted by applicable law, modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble any portion of the Site. • Remove any copyright, trademark or other proprietary rights notice from the Site or materials originating from the Site. • Frame or mirror any part of the Site without our express prior written consent. • Create a database by systematically downloading and storing all or any Site content. • Use any robot, spider, site search/retrieval application or other manual or automatic device to retrieve, index, "scrape," "data mine" or in any way reproduce or circumvent the navigational structure or presentation of the Site, without our express prior, written consent. We may terminate your use of the Site for any conduct that we consider to be inappropriate, or for your breach of this Agreement, including the Rules of Conduct (including, without limitation, if you repeatedly engage in copyright infringement via or in connection with the Site).
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Tony is dead needs to GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!! marye. Do we really need THAT kind of Negativity Here????
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I've never read the terms of use for dead.net. I don't think Tony needs psychological help, he just speaks his mind. A little over the top maybe but not worthy of being banned from the site.. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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I agree with Jackstraw. We have had much worse here. So there is a guy in the crowd staggering around a bit and having a rant about a few things. He’s not dangerous. But you want to call the cops and have him thrown out the show? Also I quite enjoy reading that freeform stream of consciousness writing style, occasional nuggets of clarity good sense in a whirlwind of words. Reminds me of the wilder posts of sixstrings and heatherfeathaa from way back on here, but somewhat darker (what happened to those two I wonder).
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Most of the time when I read his posts I am confused at first but when I get to the end all of a sudden a light turns on and I totally get what he is saying. A unique writing style and we can leave it at that. =) Hang in there Tony, it'll bet better, we'll get by and we'll survive. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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  • I Woke Today
    1 year 7 months ago
    Is the "All the Music Edition" still available

    besides looking at the resale sites, are the All the music edition of Europe '72 still available on the Dead website for purchase?

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    Gergg
    1 year 10 months ago
    What to hear after this

    I've been neck deep in this box for a month and its awesome. I'm pretty close to hearing the whole tour but have lost track to be honest. If I wanted to dig this deep into another batch of Dead that would represent the band's next step in their development after the 72 tour what would it be?

  • marye
    2 years 3 months ago
    alas no
    these were all snapped up years ago, though you may find someone willing to part with theirs.