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    August 27 - September 2, 2007

    I undertook the Taper's Section last November with a pretty simple vision: to have fun providing folks a regular opportunity to hear vault material that kept their interest in Grateful Dead music fresh.

    Recently, I and others that work on dead.net became aware that certain fans had been regularly downloading the tracks offered in the Taper Section. From the very beginning, this program has always been intended to be a "for streaming only" service. Downloading was never announced, described or promoted in any manner. The situation that developed over the past months is very different than my original plan.

    Where we’re at today requires us to step back, gather some information, do some thinking and get back to you. In the meantime, we ask that you all realize that dead.net's and GDP's commitment to the Dead Head community is unchanged. We’re very excited to be hard at work with Rhino on a number of very cool releases and programs that you’ll be hearing about soon. Please bear with us until then.

    See you next week,
    David

    This week, we’re going to explore some cool moments from the Family Dog in 1969, as well as some great material from 1980 and a taste of 1972.

    Although most shows in the Bay Area in the late 1960s were BGP-produced concerts, there was a very hip alternative promoter, namely Chet Helms and his Family Dog at the Great Highway. At the end of the summer of ’69 (no Bryan Adams jokes, please), the Grateful Dead played a few shows at Chet’s cool venue, and from those shows we have some interesting material. From 8/29/69, we have a nice Easy Wind, Me and My Uncle>High Time, as well as the show-closing Lovelight, and from the next night, 8/30/69, we have a very good Morning Dew from early in the show. Be sure to check back next week for another rare track from the Family Dog in 1969.

    One thing we always get excited about is a great tour with consistently great performances, with highlights too numerous to list. The mid-August to early-September 1980 tour is one such stretch of shows, and we have a few examples of great material from this tour this week. Unfortunately, two of the best shows from the tour are not in the vault (9/6 at Lewiston and 9/2/80 at Rochester), but what does live in the vault is exceptional. From 8/27/80 at Pine Knob in Michigan, the second set opening trio of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider>C.C. Rider (or China>Rider>Rider, if you will) is as high energy as they come. From three nights later in Philadelphia we have the ending sequence of the show on 8/30/80, featuring Space>Not Fade Away>Black Peter>Sugar Magnolia, One More Saturday Night. A classic 1980 sequence if there ever was one. Unfortunately, the first set of this show is not in the vault. Finally from this tour, we have the show opener on 8/31/80 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, with a rocking duo of Alabama Getaway>Promised Land. As the flipside to the Philly show above, the second set from this Cap Center show is not in the vault.

    Lastly this week, we have a couple of tracks from the first night of the Europe 72 tour, the first two songs played on the tour, in fact. Both of these songs from 4/7/72 in London have a little extra something, as the band was clearly happy to be playing in Europe, a feeling that would evidently continue through the final show on 5/26/72 in London. Oh, yes, the songs: Greatest Story Ever Told and Sugaree. Enjoy.

    Be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some music from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1985. It’s going to be a busy week. Feel free to write anytime with questions or comments.

    David Lemieux
    vault [at] dead.net

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    David.Please understand that certainly a few songs that we could download and listen to whenever we like, makes us enjoy the dead even more. Hearing a great song from a great show makes us more keen to do just that. What you guys seem to be doing now is turning people off, rather that turning people on with some juicy little nuggets. The downloads make us buy more man... isn't that what its all about??????? Peace
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    moment of bliss
    16 years 5 months ago
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    i don't get it. the band would let us bring a tape deck in and record the whole show,BUT you won't let us have a couple of songs a week
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    16 years 5 months ago
    lame, weak, sad
    ......take another step back...and another step back........
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I undertook the Taper's Section last November with a pretty simple vision: to have fun providing folks a regular opportunity to hear vault material that kept their interest in Grateful Dead music fresh.

Recently, I and others that work on dead.net became aware that certain fans had been regularly downloading the tracks offered in the Taper Section. From the very beginning, this program has always been intended to be a "for streaming only" service. Downloading was never announced, described or promoted in any manner. The situation that developed over the past months is very different than my original plan.

Where we’re at today requires us to step back, gather some information, do some thinking and get back to you. In the meantime, we ask that you all realize that dead.net's and GDP's commitment to the Dead Head community is unchanged. We’re very excited to be hard at work with Rhino on a number of very cool releases and programs that you’ll be hearing about soon. Please bear with us until then.

See you next week,
David

This week, we’re going to explore some cool moments from the Family Dog in 1969, as well as some great material from 1980 and a taste of 1972.

Although most shows in the Bay Area in the late 1960s were BGP-produced concerts, there was a very hip alternative promoter, namely Chet Helms and his Family Dog at the Great Highway. At the end of the summer of ’69 (no Bryan Adams jokes, please), the Grateful Dead played a few shows at Chet’s cool venue, and from those shows we have some interesting material. From 8/29/69, we have a nice Easy Wind, Me and My Uncle>High Time, as well as the show-closing Lovelight, and from the next night, 8/30/69, we have a very good Morning Dew from early in the show. Be sure to check back next week for another rare track from the Family Dog in 1969.

One thing we always get excited about is a great tour with consistently great performances, with highlights too numerous to list. The mid-August to early-September 1980 tour is one such stretch of shows, and we have a few examples of great material from this tour this week. Unfortunately, two of the best shows from the tour are not in the vault (9/6 at Lewiston and 9/2/80 at Rochester), but what does live in the vault is exceptional. From 8/27/80 at Pine Knob in Michigan, the second set opening trio of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider>C.C. Rider (or China>Rider>Rider, if you will) is as high energy as they come. From three nights later in Philadelphia we have the ending sequence of the show on 8/30/80, featuring Space>Not Fade Away>Black Peter>Sugar Magnolia, One More Saturday Night. A classic 1980 sequence if there ever was one. Unfortunately, the first set of this show is not in the vault. Finally from this tour, we have the show opener on 8/31/80 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, with a rocking duo of Alabama Getaway>Promised Land. As the flipside to the Philly show above, the second set from this Cap Center show is not in the vault.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of tracks from the first night of the Europe 72 tour, the first two songs played on the tour, in fact. Both of these songs from 4/7/72 in London have a little extra something, as the band was clearly happy to be playing in Europe, a feeling that would evidently continue through the final show on 5/26/72 in London. Oh, yes, the songs: Greatest Story Ever Told and Sugaree. Enjoy.

Be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some music from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1985. It’s going to be a busy week. Feel free to write anytime with questions or comments.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net

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You will never be "satisfied". Moments of momentary bliss will only drive the urge to hunt down more. Like many things, now that I think about it...
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I really enjoyed the downloads but I also enjoy the streaming....thanks a million for all your hard work and providing some really fantastic music....
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If I could click one time and stream all the selections sequentially, I might still listen to them. That way I could listen through the headphones while performing other tasks on my computer. But if I have stop what I'm doing each time a selection ends, flip through several windows, find my place in the list, then click on the next selection - well it's just too much trouble. Listening becomes a chore rather than a pleasure. For what it's worth, Richard
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Open up a second browser window, like I do. That way, I can still surf the net, and still go back to the TS page, as I need to.
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In IE7 and firefox you can just open it in a new tab. Another good tool is "Rocket FM" an FM transmitter that connects to your computer via a USB port. You can set it to any FM frequency, to take advantage of the best in your area. I can listen to the streaming, as well as files on my computer, in any room of my house with no problem. However, I too would like a link to listen to the whole enchilada without having to load each one individually.
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Will we have new selections tomorrow? What did DL do on Memorial Day?
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Seems like the powers that be never learn. Why do you continue to alienate the very people that support you? I really enjoyed the Tapers Section but I run Linux and Opera and I cannot stream from this site (apparently others can't either). I also listen to most music in my car or on my ipod so streaming does not excite me. The main problem you all have is you give something then take it away and wonder why people are upset. In spite of what you all might believe, most Deadheads do not believe we are entitled to this music - we realize this is a great gift the band has given us and we try to do the right thing. We support the band members by purchasing official merchandise and buying tickets to shows for P&F Ratdog etc. I have purchased many official cd's and downloads (including the entire Three From The Vault") even though I have many of the shows already. We also support the community - I have given away extra tickets to shows. I donate to the various download sites. I have purchased official CD's and DVD's for friends that can't afford them and given them as gifts I have downloaded shows for friends (and in some cases people I do not even know) because they cannot do it themselves. I am not writing this to brag (I know a lot of other people that do the same) but to illustrate how the community works- you help a brother or sister when you can and believe that kindness is re-payed in some form or another. You would get much greater support from the community if you took the time to understand it. In business terms, it's called market research. As many others have stated, the answer is not to take away access to the Tapers Section but to make it as accessible to as many as possible. I would pay a monthly fee to be able to download and I would be glad to donate a little more to keep the Tapers Section open to all so someone that can't afford it will still have access. Let people download and share - these are mp3's so they won't end up on torrent sites. This is a good way to introduce new people to the music and expand your market. Stop focusing on the fact that a few people may be downloading music without paying and instead come up with creative ways to bring the best product to the most people. You may be surprised that you can actually make more money by not focusing on making money.
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My earlier message/method also works with the GD Radio Hour if it matters. The idea for streaming would make far more sense if a GD station was (again) established via iTunes. That lil' Phish band had it too before they officially went their own ways. Luckily Rhino has nothing to do with their back catalog.
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The mp3's were reason enough for me to come by every Monday, or if I forgot one week it was extra exciting for two weeks worth of taper's section. The streaming requires that I gotta stick around rather than listen when I please. I'm the type who bought many of the downloads when it was second Tues. every month or whatever that was. I purchase EVERY release. I don't mind paying money but streaming is a big yawn for me. Just for what it's worth, put stuff up often, even if I have to pony up $$, and make it downloadable so I can listen when and where I want, I'll keep coming around. Weekly streaming just won't keep me excited enough to check every week. One more thing, I much prefer the flac format so if you are going to have some kind of pay download thingy, please include flac, not just mp3.
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......take another step back...and another step back........
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i don't get it. the band would let us bring a tape deck in and record the whole show,BUT you won't let us have a couple of songs a week
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David.Please understand that certainly a few songs that we could download and listen to whenever we like, makes us enjoy the dead even more. Hearing a great song from a great show makes us more keen to do just that. What you guys seem to be doing now is turning people off, rather that turning people on with some juicy little nuggets. The downloads make us buy more man... isn't that what its all about??????? Peace