• September 17, 2007
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    September 17 - September 23, 2007
    We’ve got some outstanding music for you this week, covering a rather limited span in the Grateful Dead’s performing history, but it’s a span that includes some of the best years.

    First up in our mid-September journey is Paris in 1974, where the Grateful Dead closed out their short tour of the continent. From 9/20/74, we have this very good Weather Report Suite>Stella Blue, and from the next night, 9/21/74, we have the second set jam featuring Seastones>Playing In The Band. It was rather rare for the band to join Phil and Ned during Seastones, but this jam works very well, and hits some remarkably deep spaces. One quick digression: while going through the Grateful Dead Movie’s outtakes in preparation for the DVD production, we came across some footage of the band getting together in a dressing room before the show on 10/16/74, the first night at Winterland. Evidently, they hadn’t seen each other since the end of the Europe tour, and while talking about the excellent music on that tour, Billy begins raving about the high quality of the recordings from the Europe tour, to which the rest of the band responds that they found the recordings equally impressive. Certainly some of Kidd’s best 2-track work.

    Going back a few years, we are pleased to play a couple of jams from 9/21/68. This material is drawn from a very interesting tape, in that it features Phil, Jerry and Mickey, plus a couple of guest musicians, in a studio jam right in the midst of the period in which the Mickey and the Hartbeats shows were being performed without Bobby and Pigpen. From this studio session, we have a nice Clementine Jam and another very interesting Jam.

    We’re going to take a detour away from our featured week and head off to May, 1973, specifically 5/13/73 in Des Moines, Iowa. From that excellent, long show (the first of three consecutive long shows in May, with 5/20 in Santa Barbara and 5/26 in San Francisco being the others), we have Here Comes Sunshine and a nice, long and spacey Playing In The Band from the second set, and from the first set we have the rocking combination of Don’t Ease Me In>Around and Around.

    Finally this week, and in memory of Corinne Crawford from Berkeley and Vermont, is the mournful Death Don’t Have No Mercy from 2/28/69.

    As always, we welcome your comments and questions. Feel free to write about anything. And be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some stellar music from 1972, 1976 and 1981.

    David Lemieux
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We’ve got some outstanding music for you this week, covering a rather limited span in the Grateful Dead’s performing history, but it’s a span that includes some of the best years.

First up in our mid-September journey is Paris in 1974, where the Grateful Dead closed out their short tour of the continent. From 9/20/74, we have this very good Weather Report Suite>Stella Blue, and from the next night, 9/21/74, we have the second set jam featuring Seastones>Playing In The Band. It was rather rare for the band to join Phil and Ned during Seastones, but this jam works very well, and hits some remarkably deep spaces. One quick digression: while going through the Grateful Dead Movie’s outtakes in preparation for the DVD production, we came across some footage of the band getting together in a dressing room before the show on 10/16/74, the first night at Winterland. Evidently, they hadn’t seen each other since the end of the Europe tour, and while talking about the excellent music on that tour, Billy begins raving about the high quality of the recordings from the Europe tour, to which the rest of the band responds that they found the recordings equally impressive. Certainly some of Kidd’s best 2-track work.

Going back a few years, we are pleased to play a couple of jams from 9/21/68. This material is drawn from a very interesting tape, in that it features Phil, Jerry and Mickey, plus a couple of guest musicians, in a studio jam right in the midst of the period in which the Mickey and the Hartbeats shows were being performed without Bobby and Pigpen. From this studio session, we have a nice Clementine Jam and another very interesting Jam.

We’re going to take a detour away from our featured week and head off to May, 1973, specifically 5/13/73 in Des Moines, Iowa. From that excellent, long show (the first of three consecutive long shows in May, with 5/20 in Santa Barbara and 5/26 in San Francisco being the others), we have Here Comes Sunshine and a nice, long and spacey Playing In The Band from the second set, and from the first set we have the rocking combination of Don’t Ease Me In>Around and Around.

Finally this week, and in memory of Corinne Crawford from Berkeley and Vermont, is the mournful Death Don’t Have No Mercy from 2/28/69.

As always, we welcome your comments and questions. Feel free to write about anything. And be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some stellar music from 1972, 1976 and 1981.

David Lemieux
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A shame that they keep posting streaming music that doesn't work for a major number of supporters. Let's just call it "the day the music died."
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Just want to download, can't stream on my computer at work. Would gladly pay per week or an annual subscription. Love the work preserving the vault, please take my money.
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ty for helping me get my week off to a GRATEFUL start so early in the morning ~AND I'm on the east coast. nice. btw: this format is perfect for moi... clik and dance ; )God have mercy for the peeps that aren't able to hear ~ they could call me and ill hold the phone up to the speakers !!??!! round and round
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Great music, a play all option would be nice.
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red8sox! Anger and your own opinion is one thing, but personal insults in a public forum is another altogether.
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tj crowley tigerlilly one should bear in mind the 'garbadge truck theory' but with red8sox..they lost last nite against the yanks so for him things aren';t going his way...'forgive...for they no not...'
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Hate to admit ignorance, but I must-I have no clue what this means. Fill me in please, sixstringsmoreorLesh- am curious.
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No response on taking down the download capability and the greediness of $$$$$$$$$$ that can be made. Anyway I listened to some of the streams and they seem to have good sound that can be ripped. How many times would you like to locally save the streaming media, and you can’t find any appropriate tool to accomplish this simple task? I suggest downloading a stream ripper or using NetTransport. If you need more knowledge look up nsanedown.
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I Love Weather Report Suite, it's my favorite period in fact... but I can't listen to it with ANY REASONABLE volume here at work... it serves no justice to the live recordings!! I commute to work 1 1/2 hours each way into NYC and my mp3 player is all I have to keep my sanity.... Please figure out a way... Pay per week, Pay per download.... whatever it takes guys... this is not a whine or a rant, it's a NEEEEED! C'mon... PLEASE!?
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This note came from a couple of guys that taped a Garcia concert back in 1976, So I'm not 100% sure Jerry said "... when we're through with it (etc.)" and meant it to be carved in stone like some ancient scripture. Maybe they are not through with it yet... Then Jerry went and lived about 20 more years, while his practices toward unauthorized taping were very clear. "Taper Talk: -- Question - "Was Bob [Menke] friendly enough with [Steve] Parish to be allowed stage lip mic mounting?" -- Answer - "We had no permission. We snuck the equipment in and were near the front of the line so we could get the spot. In early 1976 at Sophie's (before the veunue became Keystone Palo Alto) we tried the same thing and 2 things happened. Ramroad cut our mic cable during the first set and Parish threatened to break the 152 over our heads if he saw us trying to tape the 2nd set. Hope that answers your question." We ought to give Dave a break, and while we're at it, not try to increase the net to include Gans now, too.
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hey some great tunes again this week, but i would love to hear some more of the vintage jams from '67-'69-my personal golden dead.....
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like a lot of you out there and I too am ready to give dead.net some money every week to be able to download the great selections from the vault. In fact the quality of the dick picks CDs was not very good as a lot of them bought online at the full price and at the international mail cost have technical problems and 19$ to download a full concert is too much. So the best thing would be to have the option to buy each file from the TS for 99 cents. A FRENCH GUY WHO LOVES JEROME LET HIS MEMORY SHINE
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I think we should accept that the streaming is here to stay. It's obvious that it's better to have downloadable tracks. I loved having them and have been really disappointed that they were replaced with streaming. But I've realised that constantly asking for them back isn't going to bring them back. I know it's a hassle for a lot of people - they can't stream at work, their connection isn't fast enough, they like to listen to the tracks in the car, when walking, etc, but, unfortunately, the downloads are not coming back. It sucks for those who can't stream, but that's life. I think David would be pretty sick of reading that people want them back. This whole thing was his idea and I'm sure he knows that people would rather the recordings were available for everyone for free (he's a fan too, remember?) but that's not going to happen anymore (apparently) and we have to grin and put up with it. Or, like some, we can refuse to interact with Rhino anymore. That's a legitimate choice. We all know where to download free Dead music if we want to. I agree that this isn't the best situation (from out point of view) and it wasn't handled as well as it might have been (again, from out point of view) but please stop attacking David Lemieux. He continues to provide great tidbits of Grate music for as many people as he can. He has to do what Rhino tells him - they employ him. He's trying and he's assured us that some interesting stuff is in the works. Let's trust him - how often has he let us down before? David, keep it up. It is appreciated. What I've heard of this week's picks is wonderful. Unfortunately the second 1968 track "Jam" appears to be missing. Any way this could be fixed up? Can't wait to see next week's stuff. Especially the 1981 tracks. The Taper's Section has really turned me on to the 1980s Dead - I was a bit of a 68-78 snob but I'm learning how much wonderful music there is to hear, from every year.
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sorry no jokes this week because this is so frustrating...have I earned a good whine by now? However I set it up, my connection is not good enough to hear these long streams without numerous buffering breaks, Sirius is no use to me as I am not prepared to move to the USA, I don't go to Starbucks and do not play video games, so all these 'exciting developments' are either useless or like being locked outside the stadium week after week while the show is going on. I've tried to keep myself and others amused outside here in the parking lot (and I am told that 'backchannel' I am quite the hero), but to borrow a phrase from somewhere 'its wearing thin' right now and I don't know why I bother. If Kidd made such good 2-track recordings why the hell aren't more being made into Dave's Faves? Wouldn't it be nice if someone at Rhino would just have a little courtesy and respect and let us know what if anything the intention is for putting out further official releases. I know i am not entitled to anything, but I am entitled to stop supporting this website and to spend my spare time instead learning how to BT and doing some trading As you may be able to tell I've just about had enough.....as Captain Beefheart once said 'I'm not really here, I just stick around for my friends' Will someone please cheer me up
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I dunno if you're a guitar player, Badger, but if yr a Beefheart fan maybe this'll cheer you up anyway: 1. LISTEN TO THE BIRDS That's where all the music comes from. Birds know everything about how it should sound and where that sound should come from. And watch hummingbirds. They fly really fast, but a lot of times they aren't going anywhere. 2. YOUR GUITAR IS NOT REALLY A GUITAR Your guitar is a divining rod. Use it to find spirits in the other world and bring them over. A guitar is also a fishing rod. If you're good, you'll land a big one. 3. PRACTICE IN FRONT OF A BUSH Wait until the moon is out, then go outside, eat a multi-grained bread and play your guitar to a bush. If the bush doesn't shake, eat another piece of bread. 4. WALK WITH THE DEVIL Old delta blues players referred to amplifiers as the "devil box." And they were right. You have to be an equal opportunity employer in terms of who you're bringing over from the other side. Electricity attracts demons and devils. Other instruments attract other spirits. An acoustic guitar attracts Casper. A mandolin attracts Wendy. But an electric guitar attracts Beelzebub. 5. IF YOU'RE GUILTY OF THINKING, YOU'RE OUT If your brain is part of the process, you're missing it. You should play like a drowning man, struggling to reach shore. If you can trap that feeling, then you have something that is fur bearing. 6. NEVER POINT YOUR GUITAR AT ANYONE Your instrument has more power than lightning. Just hit a big chord, then run outside to hear it. But make sure you are not standing in an open field. 7. ALWAYS CARRY YOUR CHURCH KEY You must carry your key and use it when called upon. That's your part of the bargain. Like One String Sam. He was a Detroit street musician in the fifties who played a homemade instrument. His song "I Need A Hundred Dollars" is warm pie. Another church key holder is Hubert Sumlin, Howlin' Wolf's guitar player. He just stands there like the Statue of Liberty making you want to look up her dress to see how he's doing it. 8. DON'T WIPE THE SWEAT OFF YOUR INSTRUMENT You need that stink on there. Then you have to get that stink onto your music. 9. KEEP YOUR GUITAR IN A DARK PLACE When you're not playing your guitar, cover it and keep it in a dark place. If you don't play your guitar for more than a day, be sure to put a saucer of water in with it. 10. YOU GOTTA HAVE A HOOD FOR YOUR ENGINE Wear a hat when you play and keep that hat on. A hat is a pressure cooker. If you have a roof on your house the hot air can't escape. Even a lima bean has to have a wet paper towel around it to make it grow. ps- KILLER jam through "Let it Grow"!!!!!!!
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oops, forgot to explain-That's Captain Beefheart's 10 commandments for guitarists. There was just a tribute to his music here in Detroit so it was on my mind... And for the record it came AFTER cosmicbadger's comment, so, um, it makes more sense if you see it that way...
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tj crowleytigerlilly...as the garbadge trucks drives thru cities/towns/neighborhood picking up assorted types of garbadge eventulaly needs to unload at a site..people tend to be the same..picking up stresser's,,frustration..dis-appointment(s) etc..and need to find a place to dump..along comes something that permits this dumping and plow it hits.....people are easiliy gathered to rally around the flag of anger w/o knowing exactly why or hwere ALL the nager is coming from...kinda like a pressure cooker..that's what king george the 'W" did with that instrumental (cia organized) incident in nyc w/ the twin towers...rallied the whole (wqell..most of it) amerikan population around that flag and permitted him to dictate the direction taken...makes sense?
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for some reason my answer skipped backwards to being before your explanation and before Izzie's post
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tj crowley yeah...couldn't figure initially how you responded w/o my posting BUT perserverance proved beneficial and i saw that your posting surfaced before mine tho posted after mine..go figure...
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continues to be a problem. makes for some interesting reading!
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Funny, this site is only allowing the nicer comments to be left up on here. What a joke....never thought I would see the day when the Dead's name would ever be attached to anyting like this. How pathetically sad.
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Great sounding HCS and PITB from Iowa...keep 'em coming from that rare gem of a show! Also always good to hear something from 2-28-69, or the underrated Europe 74. Good stuff this week.
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This should be mentioned all the time, a couple of tunes at least. Check Out My Orignal Music at myspace.com/salaversano
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A wise woman once said that we only make things worse by taking something negative and building on it.
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Can you believe that they are actually taking down negative posts on here....only leaving the nicer ones up? How pathetically sad is it that the Dead have their name tied to a site that would do this? I agree with a lot of what several people have said, and I guess it is up to this Izzie character to decide for everyone what we get to read and what we never get to see. How closed-minded and terrible is that type of censorship.....wow.
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The 1990 MSG run to close out that fall tour was amazing.....the last night they played just an insane China-Rider and everything post-space rocks. It would be great to hear something from that last night at MSG of the 1990 fall tour. Hornsby and Garcia just get off on each other on those tapes.
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could you try posting the gist of your censored comments again? now i'm all curious as to what they were, since i read the following posts after it was taken down. i'm going to experiment here. maybe they'll take this down, too: THE GRATEFUL DEAD SUCK. THEY SUCKED IN 1967 AND THEY SUCK NOW. there that should do it. now, please, keep giving us more music. thanks for the good work, lemieux. but i'm still trying to hear that 'sugaree' from the aug 27th section.
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tj said: "...that's what king george the 'W" did with that instrumental (cia organized) incident in nyc w/ the twin towers." Where are the moderators when someone gets accused of murdering 3,000+ people?
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actually didn't wanna admit it to the world, but am actually telepathic :-)
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and i repeat myself Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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and i repeat myself Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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and i repeat myself Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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and i repeat myself Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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this seems to have got completely out of hand, i didn't know until a while back but personel insults don't help anyone. I wasn't happy when the downloads, which is what they WERE, stopped but that is now behind us. Most of the stuff on the d/l's i already had but it was nice of David to give us access what we had. I know this all smacks of a Corporate conspiracy, i was similar when Mrs T was performing her Witchcraft 20 years ago, W is really no worse, at least he forgets his lines :-) Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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I am sorry that you think the Grateful Dead suck....you obviously have very little taste in music, but if you feel that way, you should be able to post that sentiment or any other feelings you have. That is the point. The Dead blew me away over 100 times in live shows all over this country and others, and nothing I have posted has ever said anything negative about the Dead. They probably have very little to do with this site or the "heads" running it. Censoring ideas and opinions is wrong. Also, to call this the "taper's section" is close to being offensive. I again will share with anyone and everyone the hundreds and hundreds of hours of soundboard that I have. This section has very little to do with the actual spirit that once existed amongst tapers and heads in general.
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Things have changed a lot since, D/Ling has become common place, we have become used to getting things NOW, not having to cultivate links to someone with good copies of shows you don't have. the advent of CDRs changed things for the better at least you could get the best quality copy available. Vines not many of you seem to be using the vines feature on the forum where you could get better quality shows than MP3 to listen to. Bob W - - - - - - - - - - - - Spanish Jam
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tj crowley no...i can and am sarcastic, passive-agressive at times w/ humour but w/ something where many were killed and alot more were displaced (employment as well domicile) i wouldn't...it was arranged....
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This is not about censorship.... this is about Izzie warning people for weeks to lay off the personal attacks.
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This is not about censorship.... this is about Izzie warning people for weeks to lay off the personal attacks.
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Izzie said: "red8sox called my bluff" ---she should be thankful....judging from her pics, you'd think she'd be happy to even be able to refer to herself and the word "called" in the same sentence.....
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this place is becoming a real bummer
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Nothing left to do but smile, smile smile.......now, doesn't that feel better than leaving a dirty deposit for everyone to step in?
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You are in the same category....don't be jealous, I wouldn't leave you out.
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    14 years 2 months ago
    Good News
    Great to hear Mark is doing well enough to join in with Phil & Friends, that experience alone had to be very healing for all lucky enough to witness. The Dude Abides!
  • beenwaytoolongatsea
    14 years 2 months ago
    Karan going down the road and doing well tonight
    beenwaytoolongatsea this is what it's all about, this kind if thing, for me, tonight at phil and friends at the greek, i just got baclk i live in berkeley, after phil did his organ shpiel before the encore, he said now very special guest ..... Mark Karan ..... and they did goin' down the road and it was smokin', he's been in his treatment and has no hair but he looks good, well, and tonight i guess he was feeling good and he rocked the house, trading solos with Larry Campbell, ........ "don't wanna be treated this-a-waaay .... " i borrowed this from Mark Karan's site, i hope they or this site don't mind: "We are overwhelmed by the love, support, and prayers that have come from around the world. Please keep him in your thoughts for the journey ahead." -MK family shout out to Mark, and Phil, and peace out everybody the abundance mentality says 'there is enough grateful dead' and doesn't make one want to cry about the mp3s, if you really want taper's section songs you can have them ... make like Marl made tonight and rock your world with what you have ..... dt in berk
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    1 Black Muddy Frappuccino, please
    csmiller,Sad as it is, our generation is dropping like flies on a late autumn afternoon, in the Lilly fields. The demographics show there won't be enough of "our" money left to fill the tank of a modest sized yacht, in a few years, after taxes of course. Etheogens will get these kids a life sentence, one that won't do them any good anyway, or send 'em straight to Hell (well that's what they're being told in "church" and "school" anyway). Lawyers, Guns and Money rule the groove today so what else could "they" do? In 20 years the Grateful Dead will probably be all the craze in Japan and Asian Rim countries, not to mention China, where such ideas and business practices such as turning the world's art treasures into video games are as common as dollar bills. Where capitalism crushes all other creativity and free will, they'll be even bigger in the Karaoke bars, perhaps with the help of such innovation and definately (alcohol) intoxication. I don't know, maybe it won't be all bad just different, like death. "All energy flows according to the whims of the Great Magnet. What a fool I was to defy him."