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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • JimInMD
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    If E72 didn't win, I have no faith whatsoever in their little grammy efforts. Screw the friggin gram-ys the 1972 Steamer Truck deserves the Ounce-y award.

    These people need some help.... sometimes I lose faith in humanity.

  • Colin Gould
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    I see the box set has got a Grammy nomination for something like best limited edition boxset.

    Molly Tuttle got two nominations Best Bluegrass album for ‘Crooked Tree’ and Best Newcomer. I wonder how they decide who is a newcomer? She’s around 29 and recorded her first cd with her dad when she was about 13. IMO ‘Crooked Tree’ is a fantastic album.

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    Have not watched this on the ytube yet.
    Any good? Anyone who attended?
    Some NYEve shows can be overhyped a bit.
    But after Radio City, Warfield, that 1 acoustic, 2 & 3 electric looks good.
    Cheers

  • JimInMD
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    Dude...

    Hope that night job starts to pay.

  • Oroborous
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    Day job

    Mine seems to be currently tilting at windmills aka fighting greedy ins companies!
    I’d rather be at work, yeesshhkkk

  • 1stshow70878
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    My Day Job...

    ... right now is 30 Days of Dead.
    At least 63 choices for today's Bucket>Sugaree.
    And I think I looked at half of them on the archive!
    Yesterday I picked the right one first thing then changed it. Doh!
    I've always kinda liked Day Job. It does have that fun pace.
    Cheers

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Yes, yes, yes

    More Normanized Dead is always good!
    And when Plangentized too, even better.

    Keep your day job,
    Until the Powerball pays……

    Unfortunately I wasn’t able to get a ticket that day, the lottery machine at the beer store I stopped at had run out of paper for printing the tickets because they had been printing so many.

  • Oroborous
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    At first I loved it: fun lyrics, and that bouncy beat, like you say Jim, has that Doe Knees vibe.
    Used to play it in my first band.
    Then after awhile it got a little old, perhaps over played, then it went away and was sorta forgotten.
    But with its resurgence via this box, I’ve grown found of it again!

    Good bless the child who has his own stash, 9 to 5 and a place to crash lol.
    I think part of what makes it so fun is that it’s so UN Jerry like.
    Yep, back when we were trying to be musicians it was always in the back of your head, like a cautionary tale.
    Have enjoyed the box the little I’ve been able to spend with it, especially been digging the early/alternative versions and these ole era specific chestnuts! I wouldn’t say these shows are best of year, for any of the 3 years, but it’s a nice sample and fun idea and what the hey more normanized Dead is always good!

  • JimInMD
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    Although I loathed the song at the time, I have grown to forgive Mr. Garcia and Mr. Hunter for Day Job. I have a whole new understanding of the song, it's meaning and the lyrics.. plus it's a bouncy fun groove song, not to dissimilar to tunes like Don't ease Me In. In hindsight I think it's more about shouldering the burden of the responsibilities we have accumulated while we figure out a way to proceed in some sort of graceful fashion. I no longer think it has anything to do with settling for that office job you never wanted.

    Sort of like a hybrid of the song The Weight and Sugar Magnolia or something.

    Still enjoying this box. I have a newfound respect for the 82 and 83 shows but 81 is still my happy place here. I think I'm moving on from it for a while.

  • Oroborous
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    West LA alternate lyrics

    Interestingly there are various versions, probably fostered by not being able to get em all in lol.

    In Hunters lyric book Box of Rain the extra verse is:

    Here’s what Ginger says,
    she walks right, she ain’t nobodies fool
    Hers what Ginger says,
    She always tries to play by the golden rule,
    She says if you treat other people right,
    other folks probably treat you right too

    In the 50th addition of David Dodds The Complete Annotated GD Lyrics in the notes for the song, the verse is:

    Here’s what Ginger says, she talks like she ain’t nobodies fool
    Here’s what Ginger says, she try’s to live by the golden rule
    She says you treat people all right
    other people will probably treat you cool

    And I think I’ve heard JG try others too, which as I say, none seem like they’d be easy to sing!
    Per usual, in the end the final version without that verse was probably best?
    Always really liked West L.A.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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The Listening Party downloads on the product page are mp3. There's a linque to an ALAC download of Feel Like A Stranger on my order confirmation. I think Fulda is looking for the ALAC downloads of Althea 3/9/81, and Ramble On Rose 3/9/81 that are listed under "Bundle Includes" on the product page. If they're out there, I've missed 'em too. IceCream, is there a separate Download Page? No matter, all will be forgiven once the MSG Box appears.

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Cousins, I believe these are shipping out of California again. At least the Dave's Picks have been. Must be some cheese.

Has anyone told Rhino their front page of their website says this box is available now?

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...so it was September 23, then it was going to ship on or around September 27, and now the release date is listed as September 30. So, looks like we're all Charlie Brown and dead net is Lucy promising to hold the football for real this time. Looking forward to getting this, at least a couple of comments on the digital release have suggested that the sound quality is high. Maybe September 30th will be the real release date, but one can only hope.

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Breathe in breathe out breathe in breathe out breathe in breathe out………..still waiting……..all I hear right now is crickets……maybe this will ship tomorrow……breathe in breathe out

Edit: Just got a UPS notification that something is coming from Gnarleywood !!

Edit #2: just got a shipping notification from dead.net

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UPS not yet in possession of the package…..

Coming by mail innovations…..

UPS notified me an hour before Rhino notified me.

Hi, I received the following email on 16th September.

Hello Colin,
Thank you for your purchase of the IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN ’81, ’82, ’83 (DEAD.NET EXCLUSIVE)[17CD] set.
There was a slight delay in producing your box set. Your order will now ship out on or around 9/27/2022. (You will receive a confirmation email when you order ships.)
We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you for your patience.
Sincerely,
The Dead.net Team

I haven’t had any notification that the item is on its way to me yet, but I’m fairly sure it will turn up eventually.

You will get an email from Rhino when your shipping label is created
If you never get emails from Rhino then check your junk email box.

I have an account with UPS. Anytime that a shipping label is created for my address UPS notifies me that something is being shipped to me.
UPS notified me that something was coming from Gnarlywood and hour before Rhino notified me that a tracking number had been created.

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To UPS ground. As a result, mine hasn’t started moving yet……..Ugh I should’ve left well enough alone

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Yeah, nothing for me. I didn't get one for Dave's 43 either.
Man, I had no idea one could upgrade the shipping...I'm just all together lost over here.
Ha.

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...I always loved that commercial as a kid.

Carry On, please.
Sixtus

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Ups has no knowledge of this, dead.net doesn’t respond to inquiries. I’m at a loss
I think I’m done ordering from here, it’s just too stressful

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Hasn't this box just been released? I don't get why people are bothered about tracking or getting emails to tell them something is on the way. If something hasn't turned up a few weeks ( depending on where you live) after it's release date, that's a different matter. But otherwise it may just be best to forget about it and trust it will arrive when it arrives. And if it doesn't, take appropriate steps. I've never been let down yet in the long run.

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Yeah this production and shipping fiasco is the gift that keeps on giving. Received an email today that it will arrive October 6th!! Kind of pisses me off that music I paid good money for to get when released is being played on Sirius on Saturday while I wait for my order to get shipped. Bad show Dave.

FYI, received shipping notice, tracking says arrival on Saturday.
I’ll believe it when it’s in my grubby little hands but at least it’s in motion…

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I got an UPS notification (I signed up a few years ago) to get ready for a package (from GNARLYWOOD). No notice from DEAD.NET but the day ain't over yet. Maybe they are sending a mass email later today. At least it looks like straight UPS and not UPS Mail Innovations.

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Yes!

I got it!

A shipping confirmation!

Unfortunately, it was a shipping confirmation for DaP 41 that failed to arrive at its destination earlier...

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Shipping Label created, which of course is not a shipping notification.
Product indicated UPS Surepost, which UPS describes as:

UPS SurePost® is an economy service for your non-urgent, business to consumer needs of low value. UPS makes the shipment pick-up, and the U.S. Postal Service® (USPS®) makes the final delivery, seven days a week. Sunday delivery is only in select areas.

Good to see they think the $200 plus I spent with shipping and tax is low value.
Surepost is the worst, takes at least a week.

Looking forward to it by next weekend.

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....I love it!
You're not serious I hope. 😆
BTW, for my friends here that have been paying attention to my family stories I tend to tell here, the granddaughter that I walked down the aisle is pregnant.
Guess a New Orleans honeymoon has some voodoo.
Grate-grandpa again! 🥳
If it's a boy, she said his middle name will be Vincent. But, girls run rampant on my wife's side. We shall see.

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Yesterday I got a shipping confirmation mail from the GD Store saying the box set was on its way. Using the tracking number I saw that UPS had created the label. Today I got an SMS from UPS saying that it will be delivered tomorrow. In the Netherlands. No alternative USPS tracking number from UPS either. Tracking showed that it is on its way. I would be truly amazed if it gets delivered tomorrow but I can only wait and see.

Looking at the tracking for mine I notice it is using UPS Worldwide Saver as a delivery method. This apparently guarantees (?) second day delivery to most places in the world, so since UPS has your item you may well see it tomorrow. This expedited delivery might explain the high postal charges. Of course, my order is at the ‘label created’ stage and has yet to reach UPS so it will take a little longer!

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I'm not sure what's worse -- ordering on the first day of availability and still getting a delayed shipment email. Or finding out my $15 shipping fee only pays for UPS Mail Innovations, quite possibly the worst shipping service on earth. Maybe I'll receive my box set before Christmas. But I can promise you my tracking number will still only say "Label created" on the day it arrives. If it arrives.

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is such a drag. Instead of stories from people who were there or discussion about a box set release from the early 80s!, or discussion about the new songs they're breaking out we get the longest ever version of Gripes about International Shipping Rates -> Space -> I Didn't get the E-Mail, with an encore of Waa I'm Getting it too Late-> U(P)S Blues.

Hey, did anybody get the new MMW box set? No - because they don't release anything. How about that killer '95 Phish run? Nope only digital. Here's to Dave and Company for continuing to release shows in analogue format.

Ok, better get back to the griping now.

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You mean you're not interested when each individual poster gets their box delivered?

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I just want to know if Cousins received his Cheese from Wisconsin?

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I hope it was cheese curds.
Cheese curds are amazing.
Especially Wisconsin cheese curds.

Be well People!
Sixtus

Unfortunately, I am not joking. I still have not received DaP 41. But apparently it's on its way! Again!

And actually I never got DaP 39. I had a friend buy it for me in the secondary market, from Italy. Set me back $65. Extremely frustrating when you have a subscription since DaP 1, I can tell you.

One tip: do not ever move!

I actually foresaw this when I moved from a village in the Netherlands to Bonaire (in the Caribbean), so I changed my adress IN the Nerherlands to my mothers' adress in The Hage, a rather major city in the Netherlands. Having everything sent to Bonaire would be asking too much.

And I changed the adress not during the subscription year, but starting with the new year 2020. 37, 38, 40, 42 and (apparently) 43 arrived without any trouble. 39 and 41 never arrived, and 41 is now sent again.

But hey, it's the music that counts:)

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I saw Rammstein at the LA Coliseum last Friday. What a trip... I don't ever listen to them but some friends are big fans and gave me a ticket. Helped that there was a black Chevy Camaro with 12k miles on it in the queue at Hertz when I grabbed a car.

Turns out Camaros are great for the driver and not so much for anyone who has older friends trying to get in and out.

Had a great, drunken dinner at the Rainbow Bar n' Grill and many fantastic moments of Southern California yet again. Had not been out there rocking and rolling for 8 years! Since seeing Motley Crue on their first "farewell" tour at the Hollywood Bowl.

This box set will arrive when it arrives, in a few days I guess. When it does I'll feel a little bit guilty for the indulgence (not sure why), immediately burn it into iTunes and put the whole thing on shuffle.

Be well everyone. We who are not in Florida, Russia or Ukraine are blessed.

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....jealous.
Ledded shaking the dust off.
There's this band called The Warning that has gotten my attention.
Three sisters from Mexico.
Talented. Especially the drummer.
Playing here 10.7. Tix $36 after fees.

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Estimated delivery: 10/6 by 7:00 PM. If that happens, it'll be a great night. First period on Thursday will be rough, though.

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...but Head Cheese; regardless it didn't arrive, it was my wife's new hat in that package. Arrived in great shape, with a low serial number. Thanks for the support!

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and it's as big as a safe deposit box. Shelf rearranging will be necessary.

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I received a shipping notice with tracking on September 27th (my 55th b-day incidentally) and said estimated arrival is Sunday October 2nd. So far the tracking hasn't changed from "label created" status as of yet 3 days later. Sunday is 2 days away. I have doubts it'll arrive by then. It still has to get stuck in Illinois for another 3 days, so maybe by Sunday Oct 9th realistically.

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Cover artwork - if anyone can scan or extract each individual show artwork and post them here. That would be awesome and much appreciated!

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I ordered this gem last night and received a notice stating that I should have it on Oct. 5, 2022!

YES!

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I just received this box set. Can't wait to start playing it. But for the life of me, I can't find the number of the box set. Does anybody know the location of the individual box number? I'd appreciate anyone with better eyes than mine telling me where it's at. Thanks.

The box set number is printed on the right-side outer edge of the packaging, just under the magnetic flap. Box #06897 just landed in Irvine, CA :)

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Thank you so very much. I found it. Of course that was the only place I didn't look. I searched everywhere on the box, on the cds and in the book multiple times ... but not there. Thanks again.

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I have been going back and forth on purchasing this box set. It is not a question of getting it but more so regrading if I want the Cds or download. I am seriously running out of space. In my humble abode , our smallest bedroom is my chill out space. It is multi-purpose as it houses my computer, all of my CDS, and my Star Wars, Lego and Gi Joe collections. I think this release will be great, but I think I may go with the download because I am bursting at the seems. However I am particular about owning the CDs that I am not sure if I will be able to convince myself to go with the download. Regardless I am looking forward to everyone's reviews of these shows while I am making my decision.

On a different topic, I recently had weird awakening where I became, for a lack of a better word, obsessed with power trios. Cream is up there for me, but I also revisited Rush. I am familiar with their music, but I never really "listened" to it until recently. I have quickly become amazed by Rush's playing and I am taking a deep dive into their surprisingly large live catalogue. I would love to hear opinions from the Jedi Council who frequent these comments on this band. Also I would live to know if anyone caught one their live shows and what that was like.

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....I only saw Rush once during their Moving Pictures tour, but that cat has seen them multiple times (I think).
Oh. And they were incredible 🍻

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9/30/22, Just received my In and Out of the Garden purchase. I always check all the discs on my computer, and this is what I found: Discs 4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17 all are missing CD info as follows, Artist, Album, Genre, Track #, and disc#. You insert disc expecting to have the info show up, and there’s nothing. Disappointed now that I have this set, that I have to ask for a return, hoping the replacement isn’t messed up too.

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