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    "When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

    We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

    The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

    The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

    The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

    Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

    (Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

    ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
    Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

    *Helpful hints for using your USB:

    Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
    On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
    On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

    Viewing the digital book:
    You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

    To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

    Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
    When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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"When we began discussing audio projects to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Grateful Dead back in 2012, we knew we wanted to do something completely unprecedented. We could think of nothing more exciting or ambitious than a career-spanning overview of the band's live legacy focused on what best tells the story: complete concerts. Our first criterion was the very best live music to represent any given year in the band’s history. We wanted to make sure that there were not only the tent-pole shows that fans have been demanding for decades but also ones that are slightly more under the radar, but equally excellent. For those who listen to the entire box straight through, chronologically, the narrative of the Grateful Dead's live legacy will be seen as second to none in the pantheon of music history." - David Lemieux

We are more than pleased to announce the Grateful Dead's most ambitious release ever: 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN. Available as both an 80-disc boxed set and a custom lightning-bolt USB drive, the collection includes 30 unreleased live shows, one for each year the band was together from 1966 to 1995, along with one track from their earliest recording sessions in 1965. Packed with over 73 hours of music, both the boxed set and the USB drive will be individually numbered limited editions.

The 80-disc boxed set is individually numbered and limited to 6,500 copies, a nod to the band’s formation in 1965. Along with the CDs, it also includes a gold-colored 7-inch vinyl single which bookends the band’s career. The A-side is “Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)” from the band’s earliest recording session in 1965 with the B-side of the last song the band ever performed together live, “Box Of Rain” recorded during their final encore at Soldier Field in Chicago on July 9, 1995.

The box also comes with a 288-page book that features an extensive, career-spanning essay written by Nick Meriwether, who oversees the Dead archives at the University of California, Santa Cruz, along with special remembrances of the band submitted by fans. Also included is a scroll that offers a visual representation of how the band’s live repertoire has evolved through the years.

The USB drive version* will be shaped like a gold lightning bolt with the Grateful Dead 50th anniversary logo engraved on the side. The drive includes all of the music from the collection in both FLAC (96/24) and MP3 formats and is an individually numbered limited edition of 1,000 copies. Digital version of the book also included on USB.

Shows will NOT be sold individually on CD. This release is sure to sell out quickly so pre-order your copy today and stick around as we will be revealing a mighty fine selection of music, art, and much, much more right here.

(Looking for a smaller 50th Anniversary commemorative keepsake? September 18th will see the release of a four-CD version of the collection titled 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN: THE DEFINITIVE LIVE STORY 1965-1995. More on that here.)

ROLLINGSTONE.COM SONG PREMIERE AND EXCLUSIVE DAVID LEMIEUX INTERVIEW
Head on over to Rollingstone.com for the very first listen of "Morning Dew" 9/18/87 Madison Square Garden, David Fricke's exclusive interview with archivist David Lemieux, and the reveal of 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN's '69 and '84 shows.

*Helpful hints for using your USB:

Running the 30 Trips Player / Reader program:
On Windows – Navigate to the USB drive and double click the PCStart.exe file to run.
On MacOS – Open the GD 30 Trips drive, and double click the MacStart to run.

Viewing the digital book:
You can either view it within the program that comes on the drive, or by opening the PDF directly.

To view the PDF, open the PDF folder on the drive and the USB_bk_spreads_08-31 file within. Selecting the option within your PDF reading application to view as a “single page” might be preferable to viewing as a continuous document.

Importing music into iTunes and other library programs:
When you import the songs from the USB into your library, the information used to identify the track will likely leave them sorted incorrectly. Please use the song list found here to re-number the songs for each show so that they playback in the correct order.
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Well, after I was told that returns would turn my return around in 2 weeks or so, after a month I asked them for an update on when my 30 Trips Box could be expected, I got a totally non-helpful reply that basically I would get it when they had made some more. No explanation as to why they hadn't started doing this in the month they've had my box. What a joke. I'll never buy from Rhino again. And would encourage others to follow the same patch. I've escalated to Dr. Rhino. Next stop = BBB and an attorney. Can't believe a GD purchase has come to this. Jerry would be disgusted. And I hope Bob, Bill, Phil, and Mickey are as well. I wonder if they can move their rights to another company, not Rhino? Anyway, sadly, I'm at a loss. And angry. Any suggestions?
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so sorry to hear of your predicament. I too had a big problem with rhino ie the Europe 72 box, over 10 discs skipped or were of faulty manufacturing, the sleeves were paper thin and ripped if you tried to get the disc out, the box itself was so flimsy that if you tried to get the discs out, it would rip. Not the best foot forward for rhino and I complained. All my complaints fell on deaf ears, until I got MaryE involved and made many posts on this site complaining of the failures of this box. Too bad too because as everyone should know, the E72 box has some of the best dead music ever released. I would suggest that you get Mary involved, she is awesome and will help you get what you paid for. After almost a year of complaining and posting notes on this site, I finally did get replacement discs and sleeves, but it took a year. I did not buy a thing from Rhino for over a year, which meant I missed out on a lot of good Dead, but was afraid that the quality of production would make the purchase not worth it. Since that fiasco, Rhino has stepped up their quality, but still, to not give you what you ordered or return what you paid for is really not right. Keep on fighting, you will eventually win, but it might take a year or two.
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Well, Boxzilla #2 arrived today. Customer service was swift after getting Dr. Rhino and Marye involved. A big thanks to them. Still, it is amazing that regular customer service can sit on a return for a month, then reply to a question for why a replacement hasn't been sent with: 'you'll get it when we make more.' When, actually, they DO have some some sitting around. That is amazing in a sad way. Anyway, big thanks to Dr. Rhino and MaryE. I'd still be looking (and listening) to nothing without them. Of that I am certain. Now, should a pick up where I left off ('85), start over, go start at the end and go all Benjamin Button?
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Those looking for the '67 Shrine show in vinyl, they're still available at Barnes and Noble. They've only printed 6700 copies. I ordered a couple for gifts and got the first one today. JasonW - Glad it worked out - any issue I had in the past always got resolved. One occassion required Mary and the Dr's assistance, but once they were on the case, my issue was quickly resolved to my satisfaction. Down to two trips left to go - 94 & 95. Went to the 94 show and had the CM version of it. Got my last bottle of American Beauty waiting for the '94 unveiling some weekend night.
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Just finished up 3/20/92 from 30 Trips and I have to say...sweet. The Dark Star>Drums/Space>The Other One is pretty damn cool. For those of you who might like Vinnie/Bruce Dead give this a shot....whole show really, very nice
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Founding member of the pioneering psychedelic ’60s San Francisco rock group the Jefferson Airplane Paul Kantner has died at age 74. Gonna play "Blows Against The Empire" really loud right now. Go to the forest and move. R.I.P.
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The whole human race doesn't mean shit to a tree.
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I'm sad to hear of Paul Kantner's passing. I ran into him four or five months ago at a little deli near Civic Center. Imagine my surprise when I recognized him as he ordered his lunch. He didn't look very good, really thin. I learned from news stories this afternoon that he had a heart attack last March. I said hello and that I always enjoyed his music. He was very low key and thanked me. I am sad tonight.
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My original copy of this show-in the 30 Trips Box-had a lot of sound distortion on the second disc, during Dancing In The Street. I contacted The Dead office, and was sent a replacement, which I didn't actually play until last week. When I did, I noticed sound distortion gain on the 2nd disc. Its on Dancing In The Street at about 9 minutes 24 seconds in. Its only apparent for about a second or so. I wondered if all the discs had this distortion, and that it was a fault with the sound at the show, or whether my individual disc is at fault. It seems strange that the same fault has appeared twice on the same disc-although it doesn't sound quite as pronounced on the replacement. I'm not sure whether to pursue a replacement or not.
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Daverock - not sure if it is the same static I hear, but around 9:14 on this Dancin' in the Street there is some mad static that erupts for just a moment or two; it is clearly an artifact happening at the actual show, because all of the musicians back off for a moment after it resolves, then they pick back up again. If this is the same moment you are referencing, rest assured it is not a faulty disc, but one of the warts of the otherwise excellent show. The same static is recollected from the cassette I used to have of this show as well, in the same spot. Rock onward, upward. Sixtus
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Thanks for getting back to me on this, Sixtus. It did seem a coincidence that the same fault appeared on 2 cds, but I wasn't 100% convinced that it wasn't a pressing fault with the discs. I can stop obsessing about it now. And start obsessing about something else!
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One of the tapes I was lucky enough to get my young hands on! Courtesy of Mr. Bill Kight if you are on here Bill, thanks!
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that's when my hands were a little more young..:)
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I was always looking at the "1967-11-10 - Shrine Exposition Hall" in vinyl, but couldn't justify the expense. I haven't spun a lp for YEARS, got a closet filled with vinyl, just don't have a turntable set up anymore. But I did like the idea of the Shrine show and them only putting out 6700 copies. I thought this thing will be worth a few bucks down the road. I have the 30 Trips Box, so I have the show in digital. I had just looked at Amazon and they had one listed, still had to resist temptation. Then my wife got a $50 gift card from her investment company (who have been doing a very shitty job and are about to be dropped). She was like, oh you can have it, I already have almost 200 bucks worth that people gave me for Christmas to get kindle books with, go ahead use it! I was like you sure? So I ordered a copy today and only put out 20 bucks! So on the shelf it goes unopened. I figure 5 years from now it goes for 1.2 mill and my wife can retire! :-)But really, I've been thinking about pulling the sound system out of moth balls and this will give me a good reference, will be able to compare digital and vinyl. In the mean time will look good on shelf next to all the box sets. Yay, me!
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Reading thru this thread, I see some folks have problems with disc 2 of 10/27/79, so I checked it out for myself.I hear this distortion / odd digi-noise during Dancing In The Street at 9:04-5 and about 9:13-15. I heard it when I first played the show not too long after I got the 30TATS box, I took it as noise on the original master cassettes, "sonic gremlins" I did not hear any sonic anomalies at 9:24. I still take these noises on the original master cassettes as original imperfections on the tape, made either on the date - 10/27/79 or during playback at sometime before 2015. I don't have my original cassettes or CD-Rs to compare with, but I'm happy with the inclusion of this show in this box. But I'd rather have it "just exactly perfect" What do I do?
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Been a rough patch in rock: Bowie, Frey, and now Kantner. RIP. Back to Boxzilla #2, now that Marye and Dr. Rhino got on the case. :) Blue lining this time instead of red. I'm really enjoying listening to the shows before looking at the set lists. Just makes it seem more show-like than listening to a CD. Verdicts the same as before: I really love the '67 and '69. Wish '68 was longer, but fantastic. and the '66 was a very pleasant surprise.
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Good morning, I had purchased this box set and it bugged me that I could not figure out which number i was out of the 6500. I didn't realize until looking at pictures of other box sets that on mine it says MIRACLE instead of a number. I remember reading about different scroll, reading the website, it says i needed to redeem by Jan 15, is there anything I can do at this time? Thanks Michael
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Just listened to 10/26/1989 from this box. This is my new favorite show. Interesting songs in the 1st set and the obviously amazing Dark Star and the other jamming from the 2nd set. Hard to believe that there are still shows this good out there. The GD never cease to amaze me. Edit: I just read Peter Lavezzoli's review of this show in Deadbase. Very well written and a great description of the Dark Star.
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I thought some of you might be wondering about process for replacing defective discs. I see some people have already received some. For what it's worth, my experience was as follows: I have been creeping my way through a chronological listen to 30 Trips--just digested 1984 last night. Found along the way that the third disc of my 1977 show skipped on US Blues. Tried multiple players, etc., but no luck. Contacted dead.net customer service via email on December 11, and the reply was fairly vague: something along the lines of "we have passed this info along to the appropriate people." Followed up 2 weeks later for an update, and was told that I was in line for a replacement disc, and that I could expect the whole process to take 4-6 weeks. On Friday, 49 days after my initial email, I got a new disc 3 of 1977 in the mail. Haven't checked it out yet, but the CS process seems to be working, if somewhat slowly. I can live with that. I hope everyone else's issues are being resolved as well. Seems from many comments here that this release was a bit crazy on the CS side, even after the initial shipping debacle. While I'm at it, here are a few thoughts on the shows: sound quality on early-80s material is obviously inferior to that on many earlier shows. The 65 show is of interest historically, 66 surprisingly good, 67-74 top notch. 75-78 were a let down for me, but probably only because my expectations were so high. I had, on the other hand, low expectations for the Brent years, as they're not usually my favorite, but I have to say I've been enjoying them a lot. What really stands out are the Drumz and Space segments, and some of the looser jamming. I know some people are more into first set material, or late-show slow ballads and Bobby rockers, or whatever, but I'm happiest when they get more out, playing more free, and this happens more than I think of it happening in these early 80s shows. This seems one of the great virtues of the box: reminding listeners that they can rethink assumptions about eras. I'll still probably be more likely to reach (as I always have) for late-68>early-71 or late-73>74 than anything else after this box, but the 80s will get more time with my ears than they have in the past.
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Those sonic anomalies were at the show. Turn it up load and at 9:20 you can hear someone in the band say "what is it?"
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I tracked down my misplaced CD-R copy of this show, which I had since 2002, which replaced my audience tapes which I acquired in 1997. I hear these audio gremlins here, too, so something happened on stage. An amplifier or a processor in somebody's rack gave its all for rock and roll as far as I'm concerned. Then I checked DeadBase X to read John W. Scott's review to see if he mentions any odd noise during Dancing. He did not. I then checked archive.org, with many, many reviews. A quick glance thru 2 postings, audience and soundboard, nobody mentions any problem during Dancing. It was only a quick glance.I wasn't at this show but it was a great show for my 23rd birthday. Wish I was there ... Very glad it was included in this box.
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If you think the audio gremlins are bad on 10-27-79, just wait til they release 03-10-81. The gremlin in Half-Step threatens to eat the whole band before a quick sacrifice to the Gods of Rock and Roll makes everything just exactly perfect again. Then stay for the Scarlet>Fire. It's a nice one.
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Thanks for telling everyone about this-I had no idea she had died. I have been listening to a lot of Airplane/Starship music over the last week, and I have to say that Takes Off sounds as fresh and charming now as it must have done at the time of its release. I have never read a bad word about Signe-everyone who knew her speaks well of her as a singer and person. I haven't heard any live concerts with her on-I suspect they have poorish sound..but maybe I'll see whats out there. Anyway, R.I.P Signe.
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CD box sets back in limited numbers. Hope everyone with QC issues gets taken care of first! Thanks Rhino and GDP for bringing this music to a new generation of Deadheads! Peace.Love.Dead.
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Well I saved myself $699 again :) - now for more vinyl issues from the box from the early period please - enjoying Shrine 1967 on 3 slabs of RTI vinyl.
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Please let me know about the Shrine 3LP release. I am on the fence debating of it's worth acquiring. I have the CD version already from the 30 Trips box. Is the sound incredible? is the packaging top notch, Vinyl flat, etc.....thanks
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I, obviously, did not get the "special" gift from having Miracle on my scroll. If you got one of these and got your gift could you send me a photo of it? I would like to see what I missed.Thanks! Mr. Pete---------> aging hippie
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Finally got to the 1972 trip. Wow, Dark Star/drums/Dark Star. I had no idea where they were going to take me. Heck of a ride to say the least.
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That's kinda funny how they can just "find" 60 extra boxes, perhaps these are the ones to replace the miracle scroll ones? They had no number, so if they made 6500 and 60 were miracle boxes, did they just print 60 additional boxes?, making the total 6560? Are these additional boxes numbered? What are their numbers? Things that make you go hum....Why would they hold back 60 boxes? Were they that afraid that the quality would break down and they would need to replace these? That must be a pretty big warehouse to lose and then find 60 80 disc boxes. Will the road trip series and the Dicks picks and all the rest that are out of print mysteriously be found also? Where is this warehouse? Sure would like to poke around in there for a while, who knows what you might find. But think about this, if there are now 6560 boxes, that makes this limited edition of 6500 not really limited to 6500, which is the old bait and switch that they used on the E72 box, first there were only 7200, get them while you can before they are all gone, then, bam, all of a sudden, they released them as individual shows and made the collectability of the box null and void. Something stinks here. You know you can't say something is limited and all of a sudden, "find" more. "It just goes to show, you don't ever know...." If they (Rhino) want to continue with the "limited edition" model that they have been following all along, they need to stick to it, not just make more cause there is a demand, making the original product a lie. Greed is ruining the world, it has even made it's way into deadland. What a shame.
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Ok, so there's 60 more boxes...does that change your enjoyment of the music? Does it cut into your future profit, should you decide to sell the box? What is it that you find offensive?Nothing shameful here. Sense of entitlement is "ruining the world."
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Reijo: if you love vinyl, you will love this release. Very nice packaging, great pressing and great sound. Yes, the vinyl is high quality, thick, flat and shiny.
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congratulations Grateful Dead for being inducted into the grammy hall of fame, it's about time.What sense of entitlement? cousins, to answer your questions, no, no, and no, and I'm not offended, it was an observation, obviously you are not a collector, so you would not know what limited edition means. It could mean "out of print" or perhaps never to be made again, or perhaps it means nothing, just a number to make you buy their stuff. Anyway, my question still goes unanswered, where did the sixty come from? Found in the warehouse just sounds kinda phony.
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I loved the Dark Star segment also. I hit it up shoveling my truck out from the big snow.. took the whole show and then some. I'm just on '73 now.. so you are not alone in your turtle (terrapin) ways.. Have a great Weekend folks.. heading out on a bike ride (in Feb!) and have 7/19/74 properly loaded for the occasion.
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I don't think it is likely that the extra boxes have anything to do with the miracle scrolls. The description for the miracle scroll was that you return the scroll, not the entire box. They didn't send you a new box, just some sort of commemorative gold record or something. So wherever the "extra boxes" came from I suspect that it is unrelated to the miracle scroll thing. Just my two cents.
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Boy, I sure wish they would discover some more FW'69 boxes lost in the warehouse. They should just re-release the damn thing anyways, regardless. It's not like they would be stuck sitting on a couple thousand for very long.
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I actually emailed David L. about that box a few years back. He said that they had considered a re-release but that the wording was ironclad in that the music would never be available again. He said it was still a remote possibility but it was largely in the hands of the lawyers. As for the "found" 30 Trips box sets...I'm stoked as I scored one of them :)
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You're wrong, I am a collector; started collecting vinyl since 1966.When a limited edition comes out, the public does not know the exact number produced, you just take the record company at its word. Now, Rhino said they had 60 more for sale, for one it's actually less than 1% of the total production, which may or may not have been 6500 to begin with. I'm guessing they had to do that to accommodate for potential replacement boxes, which we know there were a few of. It still is a limited edition, of approximately 6500.
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My guess is returned, repaired, etc., I have no reason to suspect foul play, especially with only 60 coming back into inventory. I guess nothing wrong with a little healthy skepticism though.. I always wonder about those Promo copies of FW69.. Lemieux says they were essentially give aways to band members, family and friends outside the 10k production run. I'm glad one of the posters below was able to score one. Gotta admit, its a pretty cool box set. I was happy the day mind arrived. I'm happy still. One day I will have had a chance to listen to all the shows.
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Let me say first of all, that is only my feelings on this matter. I have no inside knowledge. I think the 60 "found" boxes are part of the original 6,500 production run. I would think that to start with, Rhino would only actually sell 6200 - 6300. I would think they had to hold some back for replacement issues. And that is not to say that they feel their production was shoddy. Once a box leaves their warehouse, who knows how it is handled by the shipping carrier, whether it be UPS, USPS or Fed. Ex.? I have to think that some of these carriers do not handle these boxes as lovingly as we do! I think the term "found" should not be taken literally. They were never actually "lost" in the warehouse. It has been 3 months since the boxes were shipped. Rhino probably feels that if anyone was going to make a claim, they have had plenty of time to do that. (Even though some of us have not yet completed our listen to all of the shows. I made sure I listened to each show once, right away, to make sure all the discs were good. I then have been going back for more "careful" listening to each show. After all, I don't think Rhino can be expected to wait like a year or so for folks to put in a claim. Most businesses have like a 30 day policy, no?) So I think Rhino feels it is now safe to sell most of what they held back. So I think if you were lucky enough to score one of the "lost" boxes you are getting one of the original 6,500. I don't think Rhino should be accused of any hanky panky. Rock on
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After other considerations, and reading the posts, perhaps I was a bit hasty on assuming that Rhino was pulling a fast one, yes, they needed backups and that was a smart move on their part, since there has been malfunctions in the past. I accept the fact that there may be more than 6500 out there, and these extras were part of that original production. Would like to know what the numbers were, if they had the swag and all was good with them, just out of curiousity. Glad to hear one deadhead on these boards aquired one, perhaps he could fill us in. On a seperate note, was that the lamest half time show of all time last nite? Game wasn't so hot either.
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From the wording of the availability of this sold out box and how legally binding it is implied, I can't think of anybody who would have a vested interested in pursuing any such action. They wouldn't file a lawsuit against themselves for re-releasing it. The only people who might stand to lose something are scalpers who snatched a bunch of these up with the intention of making free money, or someone considering reselling their copy. I think a slight repackaging would eliminate any legal issues, if there truly any to worry about. Re-releasing this is right up there next to wishing they would release more from the second half of their career.
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Don't underestimate the turmoil breaking a promise to many thousands of original purchasers would entail. Now, if they did a full re-mix that resulted in noticeably better sound, and exchanged them for free for the originals plus a legal release, maybe they could reach a point where the risk was worth it.
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Space, you always point out that downloading music for free is bad juju, and is ripping off the band. Now you want the FW69 box so bad, that you think it would be ok for Rhino to make a few cosmetic changes and to break their promise to folks who originally bought it at the limited number that it was originally sold at? Shame on you Space bro. Maybe you are showing us your true colors? That it is ok for Rhino to screw the original buyers so that you get something you badly want? Bad karma baby.
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Maybe they were saved for band/employees to give away and that's what was left over.Also, I always assumed that there were spares to replace faulty product.
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There are 6500 scrolls since that's where the numbers are printed. There are no numbers on the discs (maybe serial numbers, I didn't check).
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