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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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    I've invested in a copy of the Penguin Guide to Jazz on cd 7th edition. Over 1700 pages of CD reviews and Somethin' Else is one of their ' Core Collection' recommendations. I've been playing it today actually. I much prefer it to Kind of Blue. I find Kind of Blue kind of boring, too polished.

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    Cannonball Adderley -Somethin' Else
    Tristeza-Dream Signals
    Led Zep IV ( don't ask, I just needed a bit of Stairway)
    Roxy Music- For Your Pleasure

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    Wasn't that an award given to Stanley Mouse, the famous artist who lived across the street from the G.D. in the H.A. with Alton Kelly, who along with Rick Griffin and others, formed Family Dog et al??

    suggested jazz:
    Sonny's Crib - Sonny Clark
    The Oracle - Hank Jones
    We Three - Roy Haynes
    Somethin' Else - Cannonball Adderley

    anything from Charlie Haden's series The Montreal Tapes

    and synesthesia, well... would have expected someone to nail that term quickly on this board. Looking forward to Ed Yong's "An Immense World" on animal perceptual systems incredible range.

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    wow. thanks JJ. a blast from my (somewhat lost) music past. everything I have is on LP. been a long while cause the turntable done not set up nowadays.

    Africa - Tears and Laughter -- Ishmael. The Perfumed Forest Wet With Rain. Did you hear that Sound?

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    For me, posts on Stanley Clarke or Stanley Turrentine are more interesting than the Stanley Cup.

    Lots of great recommendations.

    I 'll add one more pianist - Abdullah Ibrahim
    He was known as Dollar Brand when oppression made him an exile from South Africa in the early 1960s.
    He can be joyous, spare or spiritual, sometimes simultaneously.
    I love his solo stuff, and his septet, Ekaya ("Home")

    Last week my NPR station played his latest. Solotude.
    a revisit to some of his best tunes, played with the experience of other veteran musicians we admire.

    Also - it's Lee Morgan's Birthday !
    Three weeks ago my wife started my day by saying "it's Eric Dolphy's Birthday"
    Three days days later i climbed down from that invisible aviary a better person.

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    playing here in October, all ready sold out. Tickets going for 5 times face value. nope
    Sure hope Dave's next one is from 1980, Gainesville anyone? But as stated there were a lot of gr8 shows from 1980.

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    Probably known to one and all, but Adam Wakeman played on stage with Black Sabbath during their final concerts in 2017.
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    Somethin' Else cd 6 Eddie Cochran
    Green Steve Hillage
    Astralogy Astralasia
    Discipline King Crimson

    Honourable mention for Sue Foley's Live in Europe dvd, too. Featuring 2 live shows from 2005. Great tele tones on these finger plucking blues.

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    U-tube Jazz Sabbath, a riff on the actual Black Sabbath songbook, and actually, a pretty decent jazz piano trio, led by Adam Wakeman (yea, related to That Wakeman). Hilarious, but actually a pretty earnest recording of Iron Man, etc., done in post bop swing fashion.

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    Neil Young - Royce Hall
    Miles Davis - Big Fun
    Robert Fripp - Music For Quiet Moments (Vol 3)
    Nick Drake - Way To Blue

    Tickets for Emmylou for August, and Bruce H in November, but really hoping to get an outdoor show or two in over the summer. Something about music under the stars…

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    While we wait for the announce, Swiss Movement album was huge back in the day, clearly recall we wore out that vinyl when it was released late 1969. The song (or maybe the record) was Grammy nominated. Dig "Cold Duck Time" there too. The great Leroy Vinnegar played bass and was given credit for developing the so called "walking" bass lines. Concert video available on utube. Resisting leaving new enticements for rabbit holes, all too soon to be distracted by 43, however Oro's list has me thinking specific albums/recordings to mention, rather than artists, will post after 43 fever fades. Back when the science fiction discussion was going on, meant to note author HP Lovecraft, horror crossover. Some science fiction is in music and here I tread carefully, HF. Though "Are You Experienced" was a total revelation about what could be done on electric guitar (and in studio), notably Third Stone From the Sun, Axis was released just before I first saw Jimi play, remains #1 with me, lots of science fiction. The song "Up From the Skies" is such a nice jazzy tune, a landmark because Jimi broke out the wah-wah pedal which had just been invented to bring effects of trumpet muting to electric guitar. Sure Clapton played with it on Tales of Brave Ulysses same time, 1967/68 but Jimi mastered it so well so fast. Something else, in those prescient lyrics, Jimi notes climate change or "change in climate". Check out Pat Metheny's version of Third Stone, on tribute album Stone Free, with a nod to Jaco (also utubable).

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    ....I pray that you are correct. That would be incredible!

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    9/20/70, acoustic & electric. If It's in the vault, please release it. No one is getting any younger.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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Geez, I'm buying books discussed on this club, too! I love reading books, i have all my life. Thanks for the interesting recommendations.

HF best wishes, that's a rough one. Lost my dad in surgery years ago.

I was at the Bob Fried Benefit at Winterland in 75, also! We were inside, and just itching for when "Jerry Garcia and Friends" would come on stage, making only their second live performance in 1975. We weren't certain it would be the Dead, but we had high hopes!!

Just finished listening to Boston 6/10/76 from the 1976 box a few times in the last week. What an incredible second set! Really jammy Help>Slip>Franklins, Let it Grow, Playin'>Dancin'!

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I’m obsessed now!
Can’t find it Bluecrow. Non of your suggestions and now I’ve heard so many damn calls my reference sound in my head is getting lost lol.
I think I have a new age sorta CD from the Southwest that might have it, I’ll have to check after work since I’m not getting any done!
I know for a fact it was prevalent on that night raft cruise on the Colorado around Moab. I know I’ve heard it before and think it’s a common bird, but has an unusual sound
Doooaahhh

The most visible birds in Lowestoft are seagulls. They seem to be increasing in number-and in size. If someone is eating their lunch outside on the seafront, the gulls sometimes swoop out of the sky and take it out of their hands. It's a scream.

Sixtus-the Grenadier sounds like my kind of pub - although I don't go in them so much now. A lot are closing all across the land. First the smoking ban, then inflation, cheaper stuff from supermarkets.... I think people are happier glugging their ale at home now out of a can. Which ain't the same at all.

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Tried posting this the other day, but kept being accused by the website of trying to insert Legend of Zelda characters, so will try again. Have been surprised not to see mention of another of my favorite authors, one who studied Faulkner and especially F. Scott Fitzgerald as well as Kerouac and Kesey: Hunter S. Thompson, the man, myth, legend, and author extraordinaire. Hell's Angels is very good, but Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is an absolute classic, and may be surpassed by Fear and Loathing On the Campaign Trail '72, because it may be the finest book on any election. It's full of as much keen political insight as it is with wild exaggerations, lies, calumnies, and libelous defamations. He continued to be brilliant and incisively witty, but when he turned from character to cariacature, his writing suffered. The collections of his letters edited by Douglas Brinkley have been very interesting reading as well.

Another great one, perhaps a one hit wonder, Joseph Heller and Catch-22. Far better book than movie and mini-series. I'm still grateful they tried at least. But it is a hilarious book, and the sequel from the late 90s, Closing Time, about a septuagenarian Yossarian is suitably weird and entertaining.

Also, two other wildly different books that I can't recommend highly enough: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon is an ingeniously conceived and executed tale told by an autistic teenager who is coming to grips with a crisis in his life that he doesn't understand, he thinks he's solving a mystery like Sherlock Holmes. It is profound in its simplicity. Secondly, Victor Wooten's The Music Lesson, which is an incredible book for music lovers to experience a new way to look at the world, universe, music, and their interconnectedness. A struggling bassist in Nashville in the late 80s, Victor comes home one day and is visited by his idiosyncratic music teacher, Michael, whom Vic has never met before, and he encounters him on a skateboard wearing a cape, yet the guy goes on to teach Vic many important lessons about music, life, and everything in between, with other random teachers/disciples of Michael popping up along the way. If the story is true, it's a crazy and well written tale, if it's fiction, then Victor Wooten may be as good a writer as he is a bassist.

To hendrixfreak, sorry for your loss. It's a tough thing to go through, and time does help, but John Lennon still had a point with his play on words that "time wounds all heals". Dwelling on the good memories helps. Also good music. Levon Helm's When I Go Away was one I leaned on.

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....I see roadrunners here quite often. Hummingbirds (which are awesome btw), and doves are frequent. So are pigeons, but do those really count?

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Yes. Officially listed as the Rock Dove.
Only seen a roadrunner twice.
Their legs do spin around like a pinwheel,
just like the cartoon!
Maybe three or four kinds of hummers where you are.
Cheers

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I'm in the Shetland Islands house hunting and there's plenty of wild Rock Doves up here on the cliffs. Also puffins, guillemots, razorbills, kittiwakes, great skuas, arctic skuas, gannets and lord knows what else. My friend who lives here keeps asking me what they all are, as if I know, I'm no Bill Oddie. That may be a rather obscure reference to our American friends here but he's the only famous birder I know. Wheatears are my favourites up here. I love the Shetland Islands, paradise to me.

Last five have all been Talking Heads live YouTube videos, they're a great band to watch.

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Listening to 5 17 77 with the duck sound in FOTM

Good timing

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Catch 22. Another required high school book that I finally read for the the first time last year. You are correct. It’s funnier the Heller.

Also read the Curious Incident. Very good book.

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I knew a lot when I was younger, was always chasing them and some I caught but that's another story. HF sorry for your loss, I lost my dad 7 years ago and I still miss him. This too shall pass. Ya got to keep on keepin on and keep the good memories.
Haven't read any books recently except Carlos Castaneda's first book about some guy named Don Juan. Read it 50 years ago and just found a signed copy so read it again. It's a great story and written very well, easy to read and lots of fun.

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The official Miles David estate shows a new release in the Bootleg Series - Volume 7 That’s What Happened - is being released in September. This bootleg series is remarkable, in sound and scope, and this new edition focuses on some of the last works he did in the 80s. One of the discs features a live show from Montreal in 1983, featuring two of the best guitarists he worked with - Scofield and Stern - and sometime Rolling Stone bassist Daryl Jones. No hesitation- already ordered.

For today, I received the new Jeff “Skunk” Baxter CD to play - long overdue - and I want to give the TTB “Crescent” another spin, because there was some quality guitar playing by Derek, and a little less vocals from Susan, which suited me fine.

To any Philly Flyer fans - Lucky you getting John Tortorella as your new coach. His blowouts with the press are legendary and hilarious, and I expect this guy to go Tuco from Breaking Bad by about the third game coaching this underperforming and sad sack team.

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Fair Isle, looks perfect!

Tortorella as Tuco, snicker, snicker

Ok, Bluecrow, ISTSHOW et el. Here’s my last time trying to I’d these damn birds lol.
“woo woo wooo woo wa wa woo woo woo” very fast repetitive sounds, especially when there flying around, which they seem to keep in motion and sorta low to the ground?
Call is sorta like the three stooges, but more like when as kids they would have us do the Indian dance and go woo woo woo woo with your hand over your mouth, sorta fast and staccato like?
(Sorry if that’s culturally inappropriate or offensive? They had us do it in school but it’s probably wrong nowadays?)
PLEASE help me figure this out, it’s driving me nuts! Lol

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re Talking Heads-the above is one of the best live concert films I have ever seen. It's also, apart from the 12" single of "Psycho Killer", the only Talking Heads music I ever actually got round to getting.

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We’re going downtown, and look at a few mug shots, a few lineups, see if we can’t narrow down this perp that has been driving you crazy.

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I hope the next box set will be from 1968, 1969, or 1970. It could all be from all 3 years or One single year.. Hopefully, if it's from 1970, there will be some acoustic Dead included. That's what I hope it will be, what I think it will be is is something between 1979 to 1991 and it could be from multiple years. If it's from the latter, I hope its Frost ,Greek, and Ventura shows. It could also be Winterland March 77. Now back to your Ornithological disscussian.

....all fun and games unless you watch Hitchcocks fiim lol.
My son and I went and watched Lightyear last night. #1 reason was because we are huge Pixar fans. #2 reason was to see what all the hubbub was about.
Sorely underwhelmed regarding "the scene". Lasts like a second and was in the first fifteen minutes of the film.
People are freaking out over that?
Never mind other 90 minutes of the movie that teaches the value of friends, teamwork and sadness of loss.
Keep picking the low hanging fruit.
Banned in 19 countries, and some US citizens cheer that on and wish Lightyear was banned here.
Over a kiss.
Rant over.
Vegas Golden Knights hired Bruce Cassidy from Boston Bruins fame as their new head coach.
Last name checks out.
Y'all stay cool and safe.

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I wish I'd got married in a suit like that, cracks me up every time.

Got home this afternoon to find the Little Feat 5 album set waiting for me. Got a second hand one from Amazon for £10 including postage. Great to hear Dixie Chicken again, what a fantastic record. The sounds a bit weak mind you, I'm looking forward to seeing how the other 4 sound. £2 a disc I can't complain.

I've just finished Jonathan Evison's West of Here. Very underwhelmed I'm afraid. Cliched, shallow characters, no story or plot to speak of, I doubt I'll try another of his.

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ORO
Fair Isle is a beautiful island, but very isolated. I was last there in 2015. We stayed in a guesthouse owned by an American who had lived on the isle for a while. He had previously found a very rare bird for UK (Citril Finch). It took some time to convince the bird observatory staff that it wasn’t a joke. Shetland has great scenery and is fantastic for birding so I’m envious of anyone looking to move there.

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Never heard of it. What happens for chrissake ? On second thoughts...don't say if it's too bloodthirsty.
In the old days if something was banned it was usually considered as a heads up for something that was worth seeing or hearing. I guess the threshold is so low now that that no longer applies.

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I'll take a shot. Fast, repetitive call, over water on your raft trip, even after dark.
Swallows? They make all kinds of chittery calls while feeding on insects flying with their mouths wide open.
Four or five varieties. Barn, Rough Winged, Violet Green, Bank, Cliff, etc.
Total guess but WTF (welcome to Fruita around here).
Cheers

Edit; no forget I said that. Doesn't match your call description. I'm actually watching the Three Stooges right now.

Edit 2: A cuckoo? Now I'm going crazy.

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....been in a punky mood, sooooo.....
Bad Brains - I Against I
Clash - Give Em Enough Rope
Motley Crue - Theatre Of Pain
Queen - Queen 2
Prince - Musicology
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I would toss in Talking Heads, but I would be a day late and a dollar short.
There are a few bands I regret not seeing when I had the chance. TH is one of them. Prince is another.
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Little Creatures filling out the final sixth. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Good record.
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Prior to that, it was GD Hampton '84.

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I didn't know there was a guest house on Fair Isle Colin. I thought it was the bird observatory or nothing and since the observatory burned down it was nothing. I'll have to look into that I wouldn't mind a couple of nights there next time I visit. The Isle of Vaila is up for sale. £1,700,000 or thereabouts, I'm a bit short of cash for that.

Listening now to Philip Glass solo piano music. It's annoying me a bit at the moment to be honest but it's early and it's quiet enough not to wake my wife.

Thanks for all those posting pos vibrations my way. As of a few hours ago, both Pops and Bro are recovering at home. Nobody died, a good thing. Dad is doing great, my brother had a much tougher go, but hey.. he broke on through to the other side. Time will tell, but he is doing fine, in good spirits and he still loves the GD and Birds.. (yes, an avid birder or as we call it here a Ornithological freak). My first exposure to the GOGD was through him.. and he got me stoned the first time too. Should I be horrified or simply thank him?

As you were, but thanks so much for the positive thoughts. It means a lot to me. It's been quite the week.

Love 1974 GD. Know any good ones?

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I'm half way through the 3rd cd of 5/17/74, the first 1974 show in the PNW box. It's not the most spectacular show of the year, but like with all shows from that timespan, there is plenty to enjoy. Very different from the Road Trips compilation of 6/16/74 and 6/18/74 that I played yesterday. On that set you are in the zone from the first song on the 1st cd through to the last one on the bonus disc. 5/17/74 is a lot bumpier, with many of the aspects of the year that aren't so good, sitting alongside most of those that are.

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Just cost me 75 bucks for the new Miles stuff. Ordered the cd's and the white vinyl.

If you're gonna be poor, be happy!

Thanks on the heads up

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Make mine not too tall and not too expensive please!

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Finally!! Someone says something that speaks to higher consciousness...

Wait, I'm serious! Confession: I have the complete, remastered works from Ted Healey days to the reels starring criminally underrated Shemp. And I say that as a dedicated Curly fan.

Good stuff for difficult times.

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Broke out Wembley LPs and suddenly got the urge to listen to Wes Montgomery - Willow Weep For Me. Have spent the whole week blasting DAP 42, 41and 33 to soundtrack last night's hockey game...Happy Father's Day to all

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Cheers!

Oro - Did you finally locate the name or species of the feathered flyer that has driven you crazy lately? Wouldn’t you be pissed if it was your neighbour’s budgie!?

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Wrong thread and totally irrelevant, but I found it interesting, I just heard on the telly that Bram Stoker, author of Dracula, was the manager of the Lyceum back in the day.

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On this date June 19th. I would have like to have attended the Grateful Dead show on 6/19/68 at the Carousel Ballroom in S.F. Hopefully, there is a tape of the show and it will be released one day.

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Made it through the first listen of this new release, I really dig it! My fav was Freedom Jazz Dance kicking off the second set on CD2. Really jazzy. I love having a sax in the mix, also. Makes Jerry's band swing a little. And that drummer is wild! Really interesting drummer. This makes me want to dive into other recordings from this early Jerry/Merle period, like the Lion's Share, Keystone Korner, and Complete Fantasy recordings from Keystone Berkeley.

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I’m with you Nitecat, first listen yesterday was very nice!
I’ve always dug the Garcia/Saunders Soul Jazz vibe, some of my favorite all time JG comes from there and other non GD outings. And I love the other, similar GL stuff, but this one seemed to be a little jazzier, but also tighter? like you can tell they’ve been playing together for a few years at this point. Some stuff can be a little too loose, but I don’t recall much here? Going in for round 2 momentarily…

MIKE: nope, my “research” (ya know, sitting on the patio wearing a warm glow and a beer, with cool tunes playing softly in the back ground so as not to drown out the awesome night sounds of nature!). Ahem, but a I ment to put shoes on and go atop the berm and try and see one, but fortunately we’ve been blessed with some rain the last couple of evenings thereby putting the Kibosh on said “scientific” research.
I can totally mimic it using that flat hand on the mouth trick I mentioned previously. Add a slight speed and frequency modulation and it’s dead nuts on. I’ll update when appropriate.

Oh, and holy Toledo, did the white death come down hard last night, seven Zed, against the Bolts in the finals??? fo-git-a-bot it. I still don’t think the Bolts are finished yet…

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I’m glad the “research” is on going. Man’s quest for knowledge, and all. I’m just hoping your neighbour doesn’t plop his budgie or parrot cage by the TV, and after hours of Nat Geo or Discovery Channel “Birds of The Amazon” showings, it has started mimicking the rare Ogopogo Thrasher of the rainforest, and you keep hearing this thing through an open window. Solution: One skilfully placed hungry stray cat.

And wow - I knew Colorado was good, but they were dominant last night, like they were playing some Tier 4 college team, not the two time Champs. As I said a few weeks ago, start chiselling the AVs player’s names on the Cup now. Bolts - Get to know your golf clubs again.
(PS - When I was 13/14 I used to caddy at this exclusive golf club, where a lot of NHL players were members - anyone old enough to remember Derek Sanderson, for example? Some of these guys could hit that ball like it was launched from a rocket. It was a phucing dot on the horizon, and the caddy was supposed to follow it for like $3 a round. An Eagle with a telescope on its best day couldn’t see where those shitting balls went half the time!)

VGuy - You too! Happy Dad Day to all the Dads. We often don’t get enough due for our efforts. But it’s the best gig ever.

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You might be calling that bird to mate with your head or ... something worse. Like, if it's a jailbird, ya know ....

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Derek Sanderson?? Wow, haven’t thought about him in a looong time. One of my favorite Boston Bruins. He’s no Bobby Orr(nor is anyone else), or even a Gerry Cheevers, but he’s high on my list of fave Bruins.

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This was 1970 - 1971, prime Derek Sanderson - healthy, fit, that characteristic moustache, before his demons got him (and Orr saved him). Good golfer, too. Another player I remember clearly was Brad Park of the Rangers. Heady stuff to be around these athletes as a young kid.

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TOO>space>st.stephen. Ignore alien orders.

I can explain cryptocurrency very clearly to you.

Don’t ever buy it.

Do you understand?

If you don’t believe me, look up the Dutch tulip bulb mania.

Derek Sanderson. Tremendous hockey player. Sadly, I heard many stories about him hanging out at Daisy Buchanans on Newbury Street. After his downfall, he came to give a talk at the school where my dad taught. Since he was the only one who knew anything about hockey, my dad got to spend the day with him. Said he was a great guy.

The Avs look good, but remember that the Rangers were up 2-0 in games and 2-0 in game three. The Bolts are a team full of talent and experience. As I have said before, they are grinders who don’t get rattled.

If I were able to start a hockey team with any of today's NHL players, it would be:

Kucherov
Stamkos
Mackinnon

Hedman
Makar

Vasilevskiy

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Great minds think, or listen alike. V too.

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