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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • KeithFan2112
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    DJMAC0520 China Rider Transitions

    I noticed the same thing on both nights. Even compared my rip to my CD and to a buddy's rip. Same thing. I don't know what goes into an engineering session like this, but the way this anomaly pops up right at the transition is telling. I'm just not sure what it tells us.....

  • jboeve
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    Digital Downloads - WASTE OF TIME

    I pre-ordered the ALACs on the day it opened up. To this point I have sent three emails to WMG and gotten a canned, automated response each time basically telling me that it’s “being worked on” and that they will provide an update when they are able. This hasn’t happened. These folks can’t even follow through on their own BS. I had a very similar experience when I pre-ordered the digital version of the Giants Stadium release.

    I’m sad that this poorly run, mismanaged, C team of an organization has the responsibility of delivering GD fans their digital marketplace. WMG’s customer service team is whack. An organization of this size, delivering this service should spend some time and energy putting together an execution strategy and finding a way to deliver on it. At the very least - when they aren’t able to deliver on it, they should be able to handle the response in a way that provides relevant, timely, and impactful information to their customers.

    Do better.

  • djmac0520
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    China>Rider 10/18/72

    So just digesting some of these and noticing somewhat odd transition, like a small cut, on this one and possibly 10/19 as well. Anyone else?

    Admittedly I had a bitch of a time ripping these discs with iTunes to get on my phone, though this would not seem consistent with that problem as it is not likely only a few seconds off the end of China Cat would just vanish.

    Also suppose that perhaps there is just an awkward transition in the way it was played, just need some confirmation from fellow experts. Much thanks.

  • darobace
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    Someone explain why????

    This goes on all the time with Deadnet customer service
    Ordered the St Louis set digital down load
    Got the singles
    The 12/9 show
    Paid my money
    This being said
    This is NOT the first time experiencing problem
    With the Almighty Deadnet
    I have contacted The Better Business Bureau on two previous orders
    Why does it take extreme measures to get the situation to be resolved
    Why is a crap shoot every time you order???
    Actually I know the answer to this
    You will wait
    And wait
    And wait some more
    And maybe some more
    And maybe
    Just maybe you’ll get your order before the new year
    That being said this rant is over
    It matters little to Deadnet
    Stay safe
    Stay healthy
    Be patient

  • raykski
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    Not worth buying the HiRess

    All of these Box Sets I purchase both the CD set and the HiRes FLAC files. I load and listen to the HiRes and keep the physical box set for keepsake purposes. However the last couple of box set downloads were very painful to get from DeadNet, wrong resolution, files missing, lots of emails trying to get what I bought and finally weeks later to get my order straightened out. So this time I thought I'd just get the physical CDs now and order the FLAC files from another vendor and save myself the headaches.

    Well very glad I did that because after listening to the CDs this box set is not worth the extra money to buy the HiRes. Only the '71 shows are decent sound quality. The 72 and 73 shows have so many dropouts, channels go missing, guitars go missing, Phil's base takes over a whole channel in many tracks. A few times they obviously switched from sound boards to an audience tape (10-29-73 - El Paso) that sounds as though it was hand held at the back of the arena.
    Just a mess.

    Buy the CDs for the collector's side of things, RIP them to digital and save your money by not bothering with the HiRes, these recordings aren't worth the extra money.

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    Monsters are the patron saints of imperfection…..

    50 years ago today…..

    October 21, 1971
    Auditorium Theater, Chicago, Illinois

    Set 1: Truckin'-Loser-Beat It On Down The Line-Tennessee Jed-Playing In The Band-Big Railroad Blues-Jack Straw-Cumberland Blues-Comes A Time-Mexicali Blues-“The Frozen Logger”-Cold Rain And Snow-One More Saturday Night

    Set 2: Casey Jones-Me And My Uncle-Dark Star>Sitting On Top Of The World>Dark Star>Me And Bobby McGee-Brown-Eyed Women-Ramble On Rose-Sugar Magnolia-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

    Encore: St. Stephen-Johnny B. Goode

    Deadicated to kcollins1974, musicnow, estimating prof, The Good Ole Grateful Dead, proudfoot, outpost, hbob1995, gfink, brianhahne, and Oroborous, just because…….

    The constant chatter and tuning up lends this show a fragmentary feeling. However, that being said, the opening Truckin’ sizzles, the new material sounds good, and there’s a Dark Star AND a Saint Stephen. What’s not to like about that? And who else but a logger stirs his coffee with his thumb?

    The meat of the show was released as part of Dave’s Picks 3 in 2012, if you want to hear the potatoes as well, check out the very nice complete Miller remaster. Hard to believe it’s been nine years since the release. Frankly, when it first came out I didn’t give it much attention, but over the years both of the Chicago shows have, in my humble estimation, appreciated nicely………

    Underrated, underappreciated, and recommended….

    Rock on!!!

    Doc
    It is my meditation all the day, and more than my meat and drink, to know how I shall make the Saints of God comprehend the visions that roll like an overflowing surge before my mind…..

  • DFBWM
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    12/10/71 has arrived

    I received a customer service email with a message to download the shows again. So, it appears that the problem is fixed.

  • DFBWM
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    Where is 12/10/71

    I still have had no response to my inquiry to Customer Service about when 12/10/71 will be available. Has anyone else gotten the 192/24 version? Does anyone have an update about whether this has been fixed and how?

  • Daddio125
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    Been watching these comments…

    Been watching these comments with mounting dismay since the beginning of October! You would have to be nuts to try and download this package! Anyway, yesterday afternoon I thought bugger it! I'll give it a try..... So with much trepidation, I filled in the papers.... First Pleasant surprise, was given the option by PayPal to make 3 monthly payments of £45 each, a much more manageable sum than a one off payment o $180. Then I downloaded the 7 shows effortlessly. And No customs officer trying to get £80 off me..... Just listened to 10/17/72.... jaw dropping at 192/24!
    BUY IT!!!!

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    Finally Fixed

    Update: Finally fixed. Thanks!

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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I noticed the same thing on both nights. Even compared my rip to my CD and to a buddy's rip. Same thing. I don't know what goes into an engineering session like this, but the way this anomaly pops up right at the transition is telling. I'm just not sure what it tells us.....

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One of those shows I really want to like..... but just doesn't sound right to me. I'm fine with the slowness, but the band sounds out of synch more often than not. Possibly Phil not being in the same place as the rest of the band that night. At first I thought it was just my ears but every time I give it another chance, I switch back to 10 29 and think to myself, 'yep, that's how its supposed to be done'. A show that gets better with each listen!

Not a complaint though. Still glad to have it for the HC Sunshine and Darkstar. And for completeness. Happens. Other releases with the same issue would be the Bonus Disc from DaP 34 (Jai-Alai Fronton- June 22, 1974) and first set from the July '78 Omaha show. Warts and all!

Just checked the ALAC files I made from the CD and yes there is a faint digi click between the tracks (sounds like a click or pop on vinyl), don’t which track it is associated with. It might be louder with headphones on.

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Am I from another paradigm? I do hope ....or I ho dope....but is it impossible to get 73 under any circumstances??

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just watching downhill from here (first time) Jerry really having some fun during the rider really good 1989 version from Alpine Valley. Also watched Romancing the Stone recently and the scene in the jungle where the two main characters find the down airplane the 'dead' pilot actually has a Grateful Dead jacket on... weird movie that somehow included the dead. Also been really digging the grateful dead movie soundtrack that wall of sound , sound still so unique. Plus the tons o March-April releases for anniversary purposes, and Europe 72 blah blah know you rider...

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send me a PM with your order details and I'll see if we can get this fixed. Sorry for your trouble.
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Considering how long this has been available I can not believe I purchased today 8-13-23 and it is NOT working. Can I get some help?

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please send me a PM with the details and I'll see if the Doc can straighten this out.
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I would like to purchase the FLAC files for listen to the river question is it fixed or should I not bother again since I got my refund from the first purchase that did not work?

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