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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • September 24, 2021 - 12:12pm
    Oroborous
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    It’s like a rainbow

    All kinds of colors to address today.

    BLUCROW: glad you were able to get a live fix! Couldn’t believe how much of a soul hole got filled with P&F last week and that was just streaming, I can only imagine how great it would of been live...
    You talking “our” Eagle? If I’d known I’d have bought you breakfast! Lol, but I’m sure it was an unplanned stop...

    JIM: yass I’ve been fortunate to see ? (Perhaps more than Dead?) many post JG shows by TOO, Mickey, The Dead, P&F, D&C, Furthur etc, I don’t understand why some folks dislike it so much? Too each their own, one one gathers.....

    VGUY: bet 10/27 was a powerful show to be at! Looks like ole Strider was there too.
    Any comments on the other three shows from this run, as I’d like to tag those next week?
    I enjoyed this show, good energy, it’s yet another solid, well played 91. Only miss I recall was in Cassidy...great guests with extracurricular highlights take it up a notch. Must of been fun to be at!

    3/20/81✔️ Fuck this sucks having to do all this over again, ahem, but I digress..
    Hit this first thing today.
    Good solid show, perhaps not the barn burners of May 81, but good show. First perhaps a tad laid back, perhaps keeping things tight and right for the first return to the continent in seven years?
    Nice rainbow mix of songs to present to the crowd, many perhaps seeing the band for the first time?

    Second set picks it up with some good energy. Slight transitional hiccup from S-F, but overall a well played show.
    By Truckin’ their starting to feel their oats and bring it all home with a classic R&R ending!

    Okay, forgot what else I tried to post?...on to Dicks 17 9/26/91 as I need some higher fidelity R&R for FAC!
    Relative new comer to my collection, but I recall being pleasantly surprised when I first heard, so looking forward.

    Hoping to hit 3/21/81 and 9/26/91 mañana...really looking forward to 9/26 as it has a sexy set list and was on that early wish list of Dave’s...

    Sunday, I have a special request I think you’ll like?

    But, hup, hup, bavpck on the crazy train, I got shows to tag!
    Happy Friday Amigos!
    ONWARD!

  • September 24, 2021 - 11:47am
    Oroborous
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    Such BS!

    Just wasted another half hour of my life so this lame ass web site could eat my post and tell me I’m “not authorized”? WTF?

  • September 24, 2021 - 8:29am
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    Weirwolf

    Ha.. love it.

    I'm a convert to the after dead bands. I think I've written about this before here.. but after ignoring it for more than a decade.. I saw Phil by coincidence on Halloween in 2007 and kicked myself in the ass for being such an arrogant snob about my dead life. First, it was a good show, second.. I had so much fun. I was working in NYC and got off the subway to a complete circus in full swing, scored a ticket at cost still wearing my work garb, PC over my shoulder and the rest unfolded rather nicely. What a blast.. I get that people don't like or won't like D&C, but I think they are good.. listen to Oteil sing Comes a Time / China Doll or Chimenti throw out these incredible fills in Eyes of the World.. and yes, Help/Slip!/Franks is awesome. As much crap as people give Mayer, he is talented and capable. My favorite meme sent to me this week by someone here actually.. was of Chumlee wearing a steelie knit hat telling the Pawn Shop owner guy he wants to see Garcia on Acid.. and the reply.. the best I get you for that is Mayer and Advil.

    So I finished 4/1/91 this morning, a great little show.. I love Bruce in these years, but I think they kept Vince in a box. I would have liked to see him play piano more and synth less. As we rode down to Fenario....

    Anyway... I will start 10/31 later today and I have marked my Calendar on 9/24/2022 to start all those great shows Oroborous picked out. Really looking forward to them. :D

  • September 24, 2021 - 7:52am
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    10.27.91 is bittersweet....

    ....first show since Bill Graham died. Honored him by opening with Sugar Magnolia, which I believe was one of his favorite Dead songs.

  • September 24, 2021 - 6:35am
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    God Bless the Weirwolf - Dead and Co - Wrigley

    not potdwd but thought I'd share some outer world stuff. last week had to journey back to the Midwest for a family "event" - first time traveling like that since the beginning of the plague times. a solemn event at the center but good to see us together and to see family friends again in some cases after many years. and by complete coincidence Dead and Co. was at Wrigley during that time. wasn't originally planning on going but in the end that would have been a true mark of losing my "alleged" mind and with great urging from my brothers, the younger brother scored some tickets. vax card or neg. test for entry. so glad we made it. not quite as carefree as the old days but boy oh boy did i need some of what they were dishing up. first night was a weather night - lots of rain and lightning delaying the show and cutting the 1st set short. second night was picture perfect early fall evening. lots of great tunes both nights - gotta run to work so won't get into a detailed breakdown now - you can find the set lists on line. Scarlet > Deal> Fire and Dew 1st night with Ripple encore. better seats night 2 - Set II was freaking awesome end to end. China > Rider, Estimated > Eyes, Milestones out of space, into Days Between > Help > Slip > Frank. I get choked up just thinking about it.
    Drove both there and back, old school, didn't sleep in a cave in the hills but did crash out for a couple hours at the museum in Eagle at 3am on my way back.

    Take care everyone. Hold your loved ones close in your heart.

    Onward!!

  • September 23, 2021 - 3:09pm
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    Oroborous

    Holy crap man, you are busy.
    I don't want to miss another OB pick, so either of those 81 shows sounds good to me.

  • September 23, 2021 - 12:09pm
    Oroborous
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    Sorry...

    But I’m riding the rails of a crazy train!
    Did second set of 3/14/81 first thing, decent, but not perhaps 81 Hot?
    Then I hit 9/24/91✔️, good show, but perhaps overall a step behind the previous shows, even with the set list eye candy?

    Okay, I’m moving onto 10/27/91 as that looks fun!
    Maaaaaayyybeee, I can round back to the 3/14 first set I inadvertently missed and got faked out with the Bama/GSET start, and pick up the DHB Hat Trick!
    Aaaaaahahaahhaaaaahhaaa (cue the Ozzy laugh).....
    ONWARD!

    Mañana: looking at some combination of 3/20/81, DP 17 9/25/91, and 9/26/91, ASAP anyway....
    Hoping to tag Spring Europe 81, and at least the rest of Boston 91,...if not October Oakland 91, before the new box arrives.

    Whoa, 10/27 off to a strong start...can they sustain it?

  • September 23, 2021 - 4:54am
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    Take your pick

    4-1-91
    10-31-91

    They both have a Dark Star.

    Not sure if either of those has already been a pick.

    10-27-91 is also nice with Carlos joining.

  • September 22, 2021 - 7:39pm
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    91 (and 90 and 89)

    Feel free to pick one. 91 is hot here lately..

    I have to say.. I was pretty blind to the later years (post 91) until 30 trips came out. Many of the years people don't often recommend shine in that box. 86, 92, 93 and 94 come to mind. You just gotta poke around.

    That being said, 89 through 91 are strong years to these ears. Your pick Cone Kid.

  • September 22, 2021 - 5:14pm
    icecrmcnkd
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    I’ve been doing 91

    And 89 and 90.

    A few weeks ago I loaded a micro SDXC card for one of my music players with non-commercially released shows from 89-92 and have been working on those at home (commercial releases in the car).

    Been hitting up September 91 a lot this month.
    Did the Sixtus Special H/S/Fire last night. I had that show on cassette and played it a lot back then.
    Just fired up 9/22 which I also had on cassette.
    Notice during tuning at the start of the show Bruce fires off a quick little piano part from Quadrophenia.

    Yes, Fall 91 has lots to offer as far as future Box Set possibilities of complete runs.
    MSG
    Garden
    Oakland
    Yes, they all need to be Normanized and released.

    But, which one first?

    Oakland, because 9/10 and 9/25 have already been released.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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In process and it has been a while. Sound quality from my perspective is somewhat lacking. Love the Dupree's, It's all over now, good Passenger, Brown Eyed Women. Just finished Eyes, really good. Again, wish the sound quality was better.

Thanks Bolo and Mary!

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Disc one is fun (it's a mix of several shows, me remembers...CR&S is always welcome)
Disc two is sublime. Eyes, Playin' > Wheel > Playin'. I do notice some sound quality issues at times, but they are not horrific and permanent. I remember the Playin' is good as always, and then gets reeeeeeally good
Disc three is phenomenal. As I listened recently, I remember smiling at the glory of the show. Scarlet > Fire, Truckin' > The Other One > Wharf > Around

the Madison show took place about 50 miles north of where l lived at the time. but since I was in 8th grade, I had no clue or awareness of that fact.

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One of my favorites Scarlet>Fire's of all time.... Also love the Samson when after a prolong opening jam Weir does the woohoo type of shout out!! I've posted about the Scarlet>Fire before but there is a Jerry Keith chord interaction after the singing in Scarlet that for me is mind melting!!! Good first choice Bolo... One last ramble, for me this show 2/5/78 is in my mind is the last show of 77... The April tour after this has a different vibe..

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....listened to the first disc last night. Cold Rain, All Over Now, Duprees and BE Woman all top shelf renditions. Man. Iowa got all the good shows. Will start up disc two a little later.
Thats the show with the extended Samson due to Bob's mic difficulties, correct?

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A few momentous stand outs for me: The Music Never Stopped; this version easily made it onto a "best of" compilation early on and has never been supplanted. Fight me. Also, the Estimated > Eyes of so so good. Beautiful elongated Eyes intro, then just mad jamming all the way through, nice upbeat Eyes tempo. Great exploratory Estimated as well. I love the drop into Eyes here; expertly pulled off. The Scarlet > Fire is very awesome too. Long, jammy. Nothing new here, just adding my love.

Nice idea.
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The first thing I noticed is that it features two nights, but unless I am looking in the wrong place, there is no indication which nights which songs are from. I could have checked in Deadbase...but that's upstairs and as I was settled down to listen I didn't bother. It looks like one first and two second sets.

I have just played the first cd so far. Coming from Europe 72, this sounds a lot simpler rhythmically. During Spring 72, you can focus on Bill, Phil, Bob, or Keith - as well as Jerry obviously-and they are all playing with energy and imagination. Here, the focus is more just on Jerry. I like his fiery guitar sound on here, but I am not as keen on Bob's sound. Donna, on the other hand, sounds nice on Looks Like Rain. I prefer this version of Good Lovin to the ones played in 72. It sounds almost calypso-a real celebratory sound.
The cd picks up pace nicely on the last three songs, with great guitar solos from Jerry. It seems a bit more like standard "rock" in a way, compared to the swing they had with one drummer and a fully functioning Keith. I enjoyed listening to it, but I will probably leave the first of the set 2s for tomorrow.

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Not much left to say LLR crackled like a thundercloud!

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....Jerry fresh off his laryngitis. The crackling in his voice during Wharf Rat proves it. His voice was never the same, but still rocks my soul.
Trey Pistachio dropped another song. "Are You There Colleen?". With a message of getting off drugs. Methinks Colleen was his dealer back in the day. Might be wrong. Never right.
I had a dealer back in the day. Name was Chill. Called him from payphones. That was a long time ago though. Thank God.

At the start of 1978 I'd sort of lost interest in the Dead, having last seen them in 74. 78 was my fifth year in college (yeah I know) and I was way more into jazz than rock in large part due to an awesome jazz club on campus, the Backdoor. The place just had a constant stream of major talent coming through. McCoy Tyner, Charlie Mingus, Elvin Jones, Roland Kirk etc. So in early January I see the Dead are gonna be at Golden Hall so my girlfriend and I say "What the hell?" and I get tickets for 1/07. Now in 78 the Dead were not that big of a draw and I wasn't expecting much, sort of a nostalgia trip. Wrong. They were great, just awesome. So after the show we immediately get tickets for 1/08. These were the Bobby songs only nights but that didn't matter a bit. My girlfriend (now my wife) cried during Looks Like Rain. We were back on the bus until 85 when the arrival of our first kid changed everything. Footnote to that is our last show was a week before his birth and she was major prego and treated like royalty by all you wonderful heads. So I love DP 18 and I especially like the Eugene show release. Stay home.

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Nice! I'm overdue for a listen.

RE: DP18, agree with Jim - Brown-Eyed Women is PERFECT! For that matter, so is TMNS - powerful! And then there's disc 3. If I had to rescue only one single disc from my burning house, this one would be in the running. That Scarlet/Fire is a half-hour blissfest, Truckin' is solid, TOO is insanely good. Masterful music!

On to Wichita!

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....has metal influences. Garcia tapping into his inner Iommi. My ear told me so.
Wichita this soon into the game? Bold move Cotton. Let's see how it pans out.

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Love the Dodge Ball reference!!

funny how they didn't list out what shows the songs are from. even funnier, the songs in Disc 1 are actually from 3 shows - Its All Over Now and Duprees are from 2/4/78 Milwaukee! The Wikipedia entry for DP 18 lays it out if you're interested. Deadbase IX also lists a soundcheck of Ripple x3 in Milwaukee - what the heck is that??!!

As others have noted, among many highlights a great Music Never Stopped and Eyes of the World from 2/3 - love the super long intro to Eyes, it reminds me of a post-hiatus favorite, 6/8/77. They Love Each Other is fantastic. The 2nd set from 2/5 is just wild. Such a raw sound to the Wolf! Would love to see released the Uptown shows that immediately proceed this. Worth noting how rare The Wheel was at this time - 2/3 was first time played since mid fall '77, another year until played again on 2/17/79 (Keith & Donna's last show), and then another year and a half before it finally re-entered regular rotation.

A couple technical notes - based on Dick's Caveat Emptor, 2/3 appears to have been recorded at a slower tape speed (7.5 ips vs. 15), and so the sound quality is a bit rougher. Also, IIRC, there is an unpatched gap (sad face) in the jam between verses 2 and 3 in Eyes of the World. There's a very nice audience of 2/3 on the Archive if anyone wants to hear that.

Now on to Wichita!!

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After listening to almost 4 hours of insanely wonderful music, the overriding conclusion is that, in my opinion, NO ONE can play guitar like Garcia did. At times subtle and nuanced, at other times raging, but always just exactly perfect within the context of the song they were playing. Remarkable, really. Feeling blessed to have experienced GD/JGB live so many times.

Garcia may not be the "best" guitarist (highly subjective, as most of those inane "best of" polls demonstrate), but he is the only guitarist I can listen to every day. That includes Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Gilmore and whoever else you want to throw in there.

It's grate to be a Deadhead!!

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You're a harsh taskmaster! Listening to Grateful Dead concerts will continue until morale improves.

Bluecrow - thanks for the tip. There were a couple of compilations that came out in the 1990s that featured songs from multiple shows, but didn't indicate in the sleeve notes which song came from which show. Ladies and Gentlemen from April 1971 and Dozin' at the Knick from Spring 1990 were two others.

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Agree 100% with your comments on Jerry, what a genius! The whole band was.

Just finishing up Dave's 11 now. Comments to follow.

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Dooo, just listened to that last week, for first time, so maybe we’ll sneak another round in after this 71 grease fest we’ve got going on today .....fall 72 is def fo shizzle....

EDIt: MHAMMOND12...whoa. I’m not sure what’s more impressive, seeing the laryngitis shows or all that top shelf jazz in a club setting???

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Dicks picks vol 21 , not the main show the extras , Iko iko > morning dew > sugar magnolia . Absolutely sublime , and without doubt one of the best dew’s 😸

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I shouldn't really call the Backdoor a club. It was an empty room on the ground floor of the Student Union and Performing Arts building on campus that the A.S. booking people converted into a small concert venue. Just a stage and corked walls. No seats. No refreshments. Bring your own. The talent that appeared there was unbelievable looking back. Freddie King. John Lee Hooker. Two memories...sitting under McCoy Tyner and watching his right sock working its way down past his ankle has he stomped his foot keeping constant time...Roland Kirk playing the flute with his nose, playing three saxophones at once, playing the piano with his elbows and head, and careening around the room playing saxophone being led by his handler (Rahsaan was blind you know) who had an air raid siren he would blow off in your face if you didn't get out of the way fast enough. And none of this seemed like a gimmick. Bright moments indeed.

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This show and bonus tracks from Oklahoma City is definitely top stuff. Sound quality is A+. A great Bear recording! Man, he did great work.
The whole show flows nicely, although not a long second set. Love the Sugaree, Bird Song is awesome, Jack Straw, Box of Rain! Come on. Casey Jones to close the first set and than open with Cumberland. Great Truckin Other One, very unique Other One. Always loved Brokedown Palace and this one they play flawlessly.

I will throw out 12/28/79 Road Trips 3.1??

Let me know Gents.

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I like the post-space UJB and Bertha on that one a lot mainly for Brent's harmonies. Overall a classic pick with a lot to like. I might give DP5 (12/26/79) the edge however. That pick is hefty.

Listened to both Dave Picks 11, 11/17/72, and Europe 72, 04/07/72, as assigned by Bolo. Dave's Picks 11 is one of my favorite releases. Great recording by Owsley improved by the treatment of Mr. Norman. Has an incredible Bird Song. Just a wonderful release.

Europe 72, 04/07/72 Wembley just blows it away. Leaves a smoking crater where Wichita used to be. Europe 72 can not be bettered.

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This one has a nice slow relaxed build up with some ripping Jerry. TOO than blows the roof off! The only TOO>Brokedown Palace. End of set 2 all great. A perfect prelude to the next to nights.

ps. 4/7 Rips the paint off the walls from the first note. No contest.

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Okay Bolo, what are your thoughts?
Next show for today?

I suggested 12/28/79. RT3.1

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I’m down, right after my John Prine compilation

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I relocated last week and since that time I have been unpacking as much as I can and maintaining my workload from home. So I have been out of commission here for a while. I came across this pick of the day and I am all for it.

Just to throw a show out there ( not for today) but how about 9/8/73? I have never heard it but Dick Latvala spoke highly of it. It might be nice to give it a listen.

Meanwhile it looks RT 3.1 will it be for today. Maybe I will add 4/8/72 as well.

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Nice - been a while since that one hit my headphones.

MHammond gets a gold star. But what did you listen to AFTER lunch?

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I was at this show, it was a blast! Sugaree, High Time, The Music Never Stopped, this show was great from start to finish. This show sounds so much better then Dave's Picks 31 from just a .sound point of view. Yeah, this show was a hell of a lot of fun!

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Sugaree lovely, the rest of the set is okay Music rocks! Set 2 Alabama grooving, GSET explosive!, Terrapin super sweet jam, PITB end jam is sick!, UJB outta drums/space yes!, short Miracle, Bertha>Good Love, CJ , OMSN rockin!

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....on it. (I'm the tour buddy still in the car doing bong rips as y'all are heading to the gate.)

https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1983/09/10
Santa Fe Downs. Give me this. But for Friday. I'm working tomorrow, but off Friday.
I've stood at Santa Fe Downs and looked east. The view is spectacular.
Whats all the hubbub, bub?
It's got a Music opener and a Cold Rain encore. Warts and all.
Things are strange outside. Bird Songs all day.
edit. Found something!!
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/grateful-dead-jerry-garcia-favourite-song/
Spoiler alert. Row Jimmy. Also a favorite of Bill The Drummer. It was playing as I read it (12.28.79. Disc one. Track four).
I still don't believe in coincidences.

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DaP11: Last half of disc two - the whole He’s Gone thru BDP is incredible

Just starting RT3.1 now , if the first song is any indication of this night, I’m in for something special!

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Hendrix Freak threw this one out a couple days ago but yall were onto something else.....it got me thinking about some primal dead, and haven’t had a good 68 fix for a bit....So Wadaya say Laddys?

MHammond: RT 3.1, nice pick. Started to go through the 79 stuff when DaP 31 came out but didn’t make it, rember liking this one more than 31, and yesterday confirmed that. Really need to get to DP 5 from 12/26, it’s been so long for that one. Maybe this weekend I’ll roll that?

VGUY: I’m down with some Santa Fe tomorrow. Heard about this one for years but don’t think I’ve ever checked it out. Plus 83 would be a nice change up here....

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12/28/79! Is this the best RT release? Maybe, certainly the best 79 release from the Vault so far. Betty did another excellent job here.
I like this release more and more every time I listen to it. Sound quality is A+.Sugaree opener! Different feel to this show without Keith and Donna, but I dig it. Brent's keyboards really shine. Really good flowing Terrapin, Playing, UJB. The show closers are fun and groovy. Makes me want to get up and dance.
And then there is the bonus disc, from 12/30/79. 10 additional songs of bliss. Scarlet Fire, Let it Grow, Truckin! Sweet.

Would love to see more 79 and of course 80. The early Brent years! I know the Chicago release didn't match this release but 79 has a lot to offer.
Yesterday I also listened to 9/1/79. Not an official release, but again great 79 sound.
If you have not heard it, check it out.

Looking forward to our next pick. Let us know!

I can't take credit for that pick. I'm trying the Europe 72 night by night thing and I'm already behind.

Playing now.
Is that today’s pick?

First got this on cassette in mid-90’s and loved it right away. Then got a CD-R copy. Was really happy to get it as a commercially released CD.

This show needs a Plangentized/Normanized remaster 180g vinyl record store day release.

Edit:
Looks like I’m a day behind. No worries, I’ll catch up.

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Good to have you kid.

Bolo, what are your thoughts on the last pick. Sounds like the crowd is feeling Dick's 22 for today/ tonight. I will have to sit this one out as I don't have this one. Looking forward to tomorrow's choice.
Be well folks!
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