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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Charlie3
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    Took a little dead break over the weekend.
    Bob Marley - Exodus, definitely a classic album, spun me off on a recollection of a previous listen in days gone by with a now dead friend.
    Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual, sometimes it just fits a mood.
    JGB - Eel River 6/10/89, currently my favorite show from the Eel River box.
    Sly & the Family Stone - There's a Riot Going On, been too long since I listened to this one, good stuff from start to finish.
    Peter Tosh - Bush Doctor, great album, and something cool about hearing the Mick Jagger vocals on (You Gotta Walk) Don't Look Back.
    Currently started spinning the 5/9/77 Buffalo show from the GSTL box, probably the show I have listened to the most from that box. Sounds great so far.

    Interesting post by Thin, really a bummer to see the decline of the disc and the rise of streaming. I just can't get behind what seems like renting access to music or movies when I can own them outright on a disc. There is also the issue of data as I am in a location where my internet access is satellite only, with enough data each month to last me about two weeks without any streaming. No cable, as I long ago lost all interest in a monthly bill to watch television. I get a bunch of free channels over the air in high-def that provide me with an abundance of opportunities to waste time on TV, and anything that I really want to see from a pay service I can usually still find on disc. Also, hard for me to get behind hooking up a TV to the internet, seems a lot like the watchful video screens from Orwell's 1984 now that there are camera's and microphones in many smart TV's. The smart devices often just seem like an invitation for a giant corporation to spy on your day to day existence to better understand your interests and how to better market more products to you. So yeah, the demise of the disc is a bummer for me.

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    Hi All,
    I haven't commented in a while but I have been following along since the DaP 29 forum discussion. So first order of business is that I cant wait until DaP 30 arrives. I have never heard these shows so this is adding to my excitement. I think the bonus disc will give us just about everything from 1/3 that is not on the other 3 CDs. Dave has become very savvy about fitting as much as he can on the main release and on the bonus discs with copyright & royalties accounted for too. These DaP's with the bonus discs have really become like mini box sets.

    Second I am always happy with just about every release, box sets too. I am hoping that this years box set is from 69, or in keeping with anniversaries in decades, maybe some select shows from 79. I know this often comes up from many of us but I really would like get some new releases from Brent's rookie year. I feel that he inspired the band and the playing reflected that. Now I wouldn't complain about a Warfield box, but to me there are other 80s shows I wouldnt mind having out first. Maybe they save the Warfield box for next year - 40 year anniversary? In the end it doesn't matter as it's all good.

    Finally I have been neglecting E72 and Spring 77 shows during this anniversary time. I recently acquired the Spring 1990 TOO box and I have been giving those shows a good run. What a fantastic box set. Plus I have to admit I have revisited the PNW box as well. I suffered from the defective disc pandemic so that stunted my listening to those shows when it first came out.

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    While it seems believable that most 20 year olds don't own dvd/blu ray players, it also seem unlikely that Dead are trying to sell products to people of that age group anyway. 20 years olds weren't even born when the band were functioning, so trying to aim for that market may well be futile.

    No, I would think, and I haven't seen a survey on the subject, that most of the people who buy music by The Dead are over 40. And people of that generation are more likely to favour older technology.

    Having said that, I don't watch Dead dvds, or any other dvds of live concerts for that matter, with the same regularity that I play records or cds.

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    They did reissue Winterland 74 in BluRay.. I have both. Had to get the BluRay.

    I get the feeling there just isn't as much enthusiasm for GD DVD's/BluRay's in general. There must not be as much money in them. Still, I would like to see more.

    I fired up the John Deere.. Took some time to get it started, been a while.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Groundhog Day, rehashing old releases

    Aoxomoxoa,
    Pre-order the re-release now.......

  • Thin
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    Folks, PLEASE stop the madness of asking for Blue Ray video reissues! They ain't gonna waste time, effort and resources reissuing existing videos into Blue Ray. It's not 2005 anymore. DVD/BlueRay players are in only 67% of homes, down from 73% IN JUST ONE YEAR (that's a MASSIVE hockey-stick statistical drop). Most 20-year olds don't buy 'em - hell, they don't even want cable much less clunky players and discs that scratch. (https://media.thinknum.com/articles/dvd-blu-ray-sales-tanking-as-stream…), and taking a blurry/grainy image from 40 years ago and hoping a 2nd round of digitization makes any noticeable difference form the first round is a fool's errand. It wouldn't sell.

    The Dead are interested in exciting new projects, not rehashing mediocre releases with video that will be twice as disappointing as the original grainy releases 20 years ago (since people weren't used to HDTV yet - we were still staring at clunky tube TV's).

    This is why I don't comment much anymore. I feel like I've said everything once already (twice, actually) - feels like Groundhog Day.

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    Hard to know for sure what Dave was referring to with other formats, but I too would love the idea of more DVD or Blu-ray.
    Good to see JiminMD back in the mix. Their last full show release on DVD was CW&I and to my eyes was the best to date. Looked better than the View from the Vault releases of the early 2000s. I still get chills when I see the Box of Rain and they sing the chorus. Reminds me of the Box they played at Alpine shortly after that. Was a dream of mine at the time to hear that one live.
    And for this year's box, I am starting to believe what others have mentioned that their has been a correlation with the RSD release and the box set. If this is the case bring on the Warfield Box, can't wait!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    45th anniversary of Winterland 10/74

    I’ll take those on Blu-ray instead of Alpine 89.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Jim, your mission, if you choose to accept it

    Use the John Deere to deliver high quality film to 89/90 Dead tour.

  • JimInMD
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    I think the problem with all those 89/90 videos is how they were recorded. They were recorded by Len Dell'Amico on 4" magnetic video tape. Essentially high quality VHS tape. It was popular in the 80's, you can notice the same grainy look on all those low budget sitcoms that are in syndication, they look dated and grainy but nobody cares much because, well, we are talking about low budget 80's TV. We do care about the video of the good ole Grateful Dead, however.

    Upgrading to BluRay will not provide a video upgrade over a DVD because both medias are much higher quality than the capture of the source tape it was recorded on. You would get a sound upgrade though and better detail on the grainy source (which can in a way make it look worse).

    Anything recorded on film (The Grateful Dead Movie, Sunshine Daydream, perhaps Château d'Hérouville) can be greatly improved by bringing to bringing it to BluRay, that's where you see the improvements. You can magnify and enhance the hell out of film with good results so long as it was in focus. But film was and is expensive.

    I still want all this 89/90 stuff released.. I don't watch concert videos as often as I used to, but sometimes you just want concert time in the home theatre.

    That's my take.. bring on the 80's video but expect it to reflect the technology of the day. The video will still be grainy.

    As for E72.. I sad to admit I just finished 4/8. Perhaps there is time to catch up.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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The next box set will be announced next Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at approximately 1:00PM EST. The box set will contain the 6 shows played at The Capitol Theater in February 1971 or maybe every show played at The Capitol Theater.

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....if true. Three From The Vault is already an official release of one of that run, so I'm skeptical.

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How about a box that's got all the different piano & keys players representing all the band configurations through the years?
Pig, TC, Keith, Brent, Vinnie & Bruce.
That would be something...

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Would love that! So many debuts, the ESP experiment and the Dark Star> Wharf Rat (debut)> Beautiful Jam> Dark Star would be on the 3 cd compilation for sure. Amazing that they only ever did Wharf Rat in the middle of Dark Star once. One of my bands does Wharf Rat quite a bit, and it's hard to avoid doing Dark Star teases in it. I've even labeled some of them Wharf Star jams as we'll go back and forth. We also like to throw The Other One jams into Wharf Rat at the bridge when it crashes into E, or other songs in E scales, like Phish's Carini, but I digress... I'm not expecting the Capitol Box this time around, but they have to at some point since the Bettys came back, and they were among the most sought after. If they indeed do announce it, I'll definitely be on board. It would be odd to release the already released show as part of it. If they did, I would hope it would sort of be a buy 6 get one free type deal to keep it the same price range as the PacNW box, which was $50 more than July '78's 5 shows.

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....and I'm sticking to it. Dude was the showman of showmen. I have a couple of aunts that approve. And one uncle. Eating flaming hot Cheetos as I type this....phone getting orange. Gonna go there.... Liberace was gay. Flaming is a term for gay. 🤔 that one out.

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Really, where to start....

That’s why we need more than one per year.

Mini-Boxes: Pigpen/TC, Keith, Brent, Vince/Bruce.

That way people can choose their era, and for those whose era spans 65-95, they really score.

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Moved to the second hockey game (muted), now spinning 5-19-74 vinyl.

Vinyl sounds awesome with the volume turned up.
Starting to think that the return of vinyl in 180g form was a good idea by those people who keep coming up with ways to get me to send them money.

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Little known fact.. In his later years, he covered a mean version of Day Job.

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"Are anyone of you Homosexuals......Like Flaming......No but we are willing to try"

Sorry VGUY I couldn't resist everytime I here that word I think of this very famous 1981 (big Hint) Movie

Any takers

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Ding Ding Ding you are correct sir.....Give that man a Cigar ( Quote from another classic 1982 movie) Did not mean that it just came out..

KeithFan after I wrote that I saw your Stripes quote....."A foot without a big toe" LOL....

I wanna party with you Cowboy.....

....John Candy. "is there a good movie on this flight?" Yessir. Early 80's is my wheelhouse.

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Don't call me Francis. And don't none of you homos touch my stuff. Or I will kill ya.

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.... savoring the '67 Boxilla gig. I love Alligator. This take pulls Jerry and Phil into the ether. Don't look at me! It's not my fault....

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The title to Bolo's post is reminiscent of some of the opening lines of the song In the Beginning by the Moody Blues from their 1969 album Threshold of a Dream. Another clue for a 1969 show, or was he just paraphrasing Descartes?

Fugazi always meant fake when I heard it used and that seems consistent with the context in which Bolo used the word.

Bolo's reference to the captcha thingy showing stages of his life - does this mean shows spread over different years or decades, or is it just a fugazi clue?

Chrono-synclastic infundibulum? Gotta say never heard of this before and had to look it up to see what it meant. As I understand it now a person who has entered a chrono-synclastic infundibulum exists at multiple points and lines in space time. I like ShaggyFraggle's thoughts on this and his pointing out that it is from a Kurt Vonnegut's book Sirens of Titan. So are we getting shows from different points in space and time throughout the dead's career? Or did Bolo just want use the phrase chrono-synclastic infundibulum in a post?

So many questions...

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We will be getting a box announcement soon.. It's not going to be 73/74, thinking earlier. Ark or the Capitol?

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McArthur Court, August 16, 1981, Eugene Oregon, Grateful Dead with Ken Kesey, Zane Kesey, Ken Babbs and the Thunder Machine.
Hmmm...
Looks like Kesey and his Thunder Machine also made an appearance at some other shows as well, including maybe 6/25/78 Eugene, Oregon, 5/8/84 Silva Hall, Eugene, Oregon and 6/23/90 Eugene, Oregon. I think I see a pattern here.
Making me think maybe it will be a series of shows from Eugene, Oregon with appearances by the Thunder Machine.

....'cause, you know, that's how it works.
8.16.81 is fine. Gotta give kudos to a Stranger 2nd set opener. Right?
edit.... Scarlet is fast. Fasten your seatbelts.

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After checking to see at which shows Kesey's Thunder Machine made an appearance, and all of the ones that I was able to find looked pretty hot based on the comments that I found with the shows. Looks like the Thunder Machine also made an appearance at the closing of Winterland show on 12/31/78, but that has already been released. If that is what the box will be, a series of shows with the Thunder Machine, I'll be a happy camper, and if not I am guessing whatever it is will make me smile.

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...a grateful morning to all my brothers and sisters in Dead Land...drinking my coffee with the Grateful Dead Road Trips Vol. 4 Number 1
“Big Rock Pow Wow” May 23rd-24th 1969!!! Playing in the background while I prepare myself for another day of love, laughter and joy! Everyone enjoy your parcels today of Daves Picks #30 / Plus this years Bonus Disc!
Sit back and get transported to a time long long ago in a galaxy far far away thru the space continueum transporter... peace be with all. Smile Smile Smile my friends, guaranteed to make you feel better than good; great! Lol ha ha . Take care and Rock On! 🙏❤️😎

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weekend plans confirmed. Although I will have to mix it up with some of the New Orleans Jazz Festival broadcasts on WWOZ.

I gotta say the Bolo clue sleuthing seems really on point. If the box doesn't turn out to be a collection of shows from different eras; then he has to admit he's just f*ing with us :)

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"My trip back here to this site has been long and strange. Hmmm...that sounds oddly familiar. I was trapped in a chrono-synclastic infundibulum a couple parsecs from Earth for what seemed like a decade, and only made it back here by the grace of God and my life-sustaining supply of flamin' hot Cheetos®".

I'm going with a box of Greek shows. One from each run of shows for the entire 1980's decade.

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Yo!! Rockers!!!!

It has been a year since I had my stroke. To all those who sent thoughts & prayers, good kharma, and general encouragement, I am eternally grateful. I am feeling fine, doing well, life is good!!!

In honor of this auspicious occasion, anybody who needs/wants any 71s, you know where to find me...………

Rock on!!!!!

Doc

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if there are Greek shows on the way...

:)))

to buy, or not to buy? that is the question.

got a "few" discs here at home, plus a change of abode coming up, plus other expenses.

just gotta wait and see. "now let's go wait and see, wait and see, wait and see....."

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claim to fame: Chewbacca actor.

RRRRRRRRR!!!!

it was funny at the time: my kids (as teens) and I used to joke that Wookies sound like they do because they are wasted drunk.

Chewie forever; thank you PM.

What did you think of DaP 26? I'm sure you had 12/14/71, but nobody had the SBD of 11/17/71 and just curious, in your 71 expertise, where did that improved sound land that one in your books? Glad to hear you're well!

May everybody get their 1970 fix today!

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*Bonus Disc: January 3rd 1970
Cold Rain and Snow, Alligator >, Drums >, Alligator >, Feedback, Casey Jones, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One >, Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band.

...I might of wrote it down wrong, I’ll check when I get back home. Driving home from the doctors. 🙏

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Well, my guess was off, surprised the UJB> Black Peter segue is cut (Dave seems to love Black Peter) and at the cut of Cumberland and especially Dire Wolf given the cover art, but no complaints. Didn't realize CR&S was public domain, but I love any disc that opens with that.

2 weeks ago I predicted:
Only clue given was Alligator, and they very wisely used the key covers as filler on disc 2, and the rule about originals or public domain leads me to think the bonus disc will look thus:
Cumberland Blues, Alligator> Drums> Alligator> (Caution Jam tracked?) Feedback, Mason's Children, That's It For The Other One> Cosmic Charlie, Uncle John's Band> Black Peter, Dire Wolf

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#952 has landed in N.Y.C. via UPS just one minute ago! Wow! Usually we are late in receiving a Dave's compared to the rest of the country but not this time. What a complete surprise. Having said, and to our European friends, my heart goes out to you for those long waits and #$%^& damned tax/postal fee collectors who 'Shake You Down' for extra money to get a cd in the mail. I got lucky this time.

It looks beautiful on an unseasonably cold May 3rd. Smiling on a Cloudy Day!?!

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Two things here:
1 - The confirmed ship date for DaP30 was April 26th. Now we hear that Dead.net / Rhino is moving to a different warehouse and shipments will be delayed!! Why was this move not done on Feb. 2, right after DaP29 went out? C'mon Doc! We are dying out here! 3 months was bad enough. This is just insult to injury!
2 - Most of us call for "complete" shows. While DaP30 may include the complete show from Jan. 2, looking at my Deadbase it appears that this release has completely reconfigured the set list of the show and they have changed the flow. Not cool. It may be complete, but it is not the way the boys offered it up that night.

Rock on

It’s friday, the snows gone for now, it’s a bright sunny Friday in the high country, new Dead showing up everywhere, Bolos got this place jumpin’ , new box on the horizon, and if that ain’t Enough,, WELCOME BACK DOC!

Edit: oh yea, and the AVs came to play last night too!

Doesn't look like I'm getting it until next week which is fine since I do a lot of quality listening driving to/from work...

Doc - very happy to see you here. Every time I think of April 71, I think of all the great shows you have sent my way over the years. Glad you are well!

and of course, keeping with tradition, now that the release is starting to hit everyone's mailbox it's time to guess the next one. I say Dec 79!

They have done this before.. I think someone, perhaps KeithFan?? has a handle on re-ordering them using some software package.

Agree it's not ideal, but first world problems. I am more interested in getting the music. Got my shipping order last night, the arrival date is not yet in the system. 1970, what a pivotal year.. Bring it! I think one day we will get 9/19 and 9/20.

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Grate to hear from you Doc and glad to hear you are doing well. I will have to scan the 71 catalogue for gaps...are there any recent upgrades from 71 that you are aware of?

Bolo...glad to see you are back from your interstellar galactic travels and as cryptic as ever. Maybe you could at least tell us where to find one of those chrono synclastic infundibulum things you’ve been riding around in/on. I spent the whole morning searching Amazon, eBay and Craigslist...cant even find a used one...WTF?!?!

Anyways, finally got my shipping notice today and was saddened to learn that without the infundibulum thing, I will probably have to wait until tomorrow for my subscription copy of Daves 30...I have stalled out on Europe 72 for now. Stuck back on 04/26...but I did give a listen last night to 04/27/85 that Sixtus called out the other day...fun show with lots of 80s energy, and a cool setlist. Also busted out 05/05/77 New Haven...love the Sugaree in this one, but the highlight for me is Peggy-O...Phil’s base seems to be especially Grate in this one as well.

Peace all...please play it loud today...maybe I’ll catch a tune!

KCJ

Edit: Bonus Disc problems. I was hoping for the Morning Dew, but not surprised. Am surprised about possible reordering?....seems odd
Double edit: never mind on the Dew...found it...track listing on my phone has it in the same line as The Monkey and the Engineer so I missed it...:

Daves 31 guess: would love some 79...think it’s been a while? would also like to see some 82 or 85. Also think we are due for something from the 90s.

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As we wait for these Fillmore shows...

The 30 trips 1986 show is from this date at the Cal Expo center. I love the eclectic set-list on this one.

And check out 5-3-87 at the Frost: https://archive.org/details/gd87-05-03.sbd.hinko.18848.sbeok.shnf/gd198…

The soundboard is really clear and there are a couple cool moments in the first set. Brent preforms a rousing version of Little Bunny Foo Foo as Bob is plagued by technical issues. looking forward to jamming the second set at work and hoping Dave's 30 hits the mailbox this weekend.

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Blimely that was quick!

I have received mine in the UK today. It usually takes at least a couple of weeks to arrive here.

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Thats how a DaP30 got to the UK so fast.

My shipping notice didn’t have a tracking number, but UPS sent me an email saying that I have a package coming tomorrow.

Song reordering?
Same thing a year ago. Took me quite a while to undo the damage. It’s not as simple as reordering the songs on the computer because, at least on last year’s release, tuning for the next song was appended to the end of the previous track, and so has to be edited. Very annoying.
Hope they didn’t screw that up again this year.

What’s up Doc?
Glad you’re doing well.

Great news for you that you got the latest installment in the Dave's series so quickly. I would have to agree with the "leave the setlist flow as originally played alone" criticism. That is as they say: A No Brainer.

Stoltzy - I'm here with you my man. Pouring one out for Ole' Chewbacca - RIP Peter Mayhew.

Heya Doc. Glad to see you are good.

I am happy with the Bonus disc, but I am feeling VGuy's displeasure for No Cumberland....pouring one out for you too, homey.

Sixtus

I hear you icecreamkid on the DaP 26 bonus reordering, I normally would have edited out all the tuning and teases, but just stuck ordering it correctly and trying to ignore when that Tennessee Jed tease goes somewhere else (I think that was the most prominent one) but I honestly don't listen to the 12/14 part of that Pick as much. Not because of that, but because the 11/17 portion is sooooooo much better to me, and the setlists are so very similar, so I can't get myself to listen to those back to back again like I did when it first arrived, and I usually listen to 11/17 then move on to another era. Since I mainly listen on a USB drive in the car, I'll reorder 1/2 and 1/3 accordingly, but I may take the time to do those edits this time around, because I think this one will get more consistent play of both shows. Or all 4 shows, however you wanna look at it.

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