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I remember Buffalo '90 we had motel room like right across the street from the stadium I know it was in walking distance. Anyway we went up a day ahead and went to The Anchor Bar for wings and pizza. Then we went to The Falls Canadian side my buddy had family up there. That night we got back to the room we took the bed spread off the beds and went down where they were camping and stayed up all night eating Orange Sunshine and drinking Fosters.

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I know it’s a surprise, but the Highlight = Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight

The Infamous Dark Star Suite of ’69!

Dark Star
If I waxed poetic, I’d go on and on about this Dark Star, but mostly I wanna say, it’s got the Vibraslap, and I love the Vibraslap, especially in Dark Star, and therefore I love this Dark Star.

St. Stephen!
Can’t beat a Classic Version like this. You get the Xylophone, Cannon, William Tell Bridge, it’s all there. This is a great St. Stephen of old.

The Eleven
It’s good! Crazy good you ask? Well.. Crazy good might be a bit much, but it’s good I say!

Turn On Your Lovelight
Sir Ron McKernan aka Pigpen with his blues and soul. I’ve come to feel that Pigpen is a tragic figure, and the band would forever change with his passing, but here he is young and alive and that’s how I like to remember him.
Cause she’s got Box-backed nitties… what’s he say?!?!? (Let’s leave that for the scholars)
Calm down Bobby.. it’s no time for screaming like that!

Alright, well.. that was fun.
I guess I should put on the next show and follow my bliss.
5/24/69 you’re up next…

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When they rehearsed and played St. Stephen with regularity, like in 1969, it was such an amazing song.. alas Jerry would remark that he felt that the song was a cop and due to that and less time spent rehearsing, St. Stephen would leave the garden.

If you watch the Grateful Dead Movie with the director’s commentary, Susan Crutcher tells a pretty fascinating story about how, she wanted to include St. Stephen in the section with the photo montage and Jerry was like, we don’t even play that song anymore, and Susan said yeah but it’s sooo good. And while listening to the song repeatedly during the editing process, Jerry’s interest got peaked and that led to the band resurrecting the song in 1976. The story holds water as they were editing the movie in ’76 when St. Stephen came back. Not to mention Susan strikes me as a cool person who would have no reason to embellish a story like that. I found that to be pretty cool and wanted to share.

I love St. Stephen of old!

FOURWINDSBLOW: How much of that there Orange Sunshine did you eat? That's the question...

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Enough! That's all I'm saying.

There were just the three of us out of ten that went to the camping site, we were the crazed of the group. The next morning when we went back to the motel room waking everyone up with a hearty breakfast of Orange Sunshine.

Good Show! CSN and The Dead! We went in early and sat right up in front of Jerry.

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FWB - That sounds like Good Times!

You seen that Doc on Orange Sunshine? Pretty fascinating.

That and Heads by Jesse Jarnow.

So much info. Such a Taboo subject... You gotta love it!

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I just remembered that right before set 2 the band on the stage and the camera rolling a camera guy center stage got me giving the thumbs up as he panned the crowed I know he saw me cause he smiled. Hope it makes it on the official video.

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....I'll fill you in later.
I have a pick to throw into the ring. It's not official, and I'm sure most have you have heard it, although maybe not in a long time (like me). 10.16.81 Club Melk Weg. Amsterdam. Bobby's birthday. One acoustic set. One electric. Borrowed instruments. High AF on hashish. Lovelight bustout after nine years. It's a really fun show. My two sense.
https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-16.sbd.miller.110351.flac16/gd81-…

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Not sure why this would be a taboo subject here.. the band certainly didn't try to hide it. Besides.. most of this is folklore by now, happening between 55 and 25 years ago. It could be just because I am old and in the way.. but you don't see or hear of it that much these days.

I enjoy reading peoples stories, most of which (probably all that are told on these threads) by far predate any statute of limitation. Like it or leave it, this is American and World History. Let the good times roll (deja que los buenos tiempos pasen, deixe os bons tempos rolarem, laissez le bon temps rouler).

Edit: Speaking of LSD, I finished discs 1 and 2, 3 later. Still one of my favorite 69 releases behind FW and Fillmore Auditorium. I agree with the Good Ole GD.. disc one probably delivers the goods and is the highlight, but my favorite is disc 2 simply because He Was a Friend of Mine > The Eleven speaks to me... As for disc three, I have never met a Morning Dew or an Alligator I did not like. Even the squatty little yeller one with no tail.

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There was a video of both shows on Youtube, a few years ago, don't know if it is still out there!!

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I actually was awarded this for a prize back in 2010 for the inaugural version of 30 Days of Dead. It was on the 5th day and the song was Playing in the Band from 5/20/73 UCSB. As I recall it was a totally random guess! Funny the things we remember (and what we forget!)

Had a good time listening to 5/23 & 24/69 today.

The opening Lovelight almost seems to be a prankster response to the rookie mc telling people to be seated... never trust a prankster.

All the banter is fun. The difference between the closing Lovelight & opening Lovelight was interesting as well.
The opening Lovelight seemed to be much more exploratory with different themes being introduced, especially around 14:30, Jerry gets into a cool groove. The Drums > St. Stephen transition was a trip too.

Good stuff all around.

Milkweg is cool, I like Milkweg

11/17/73 Dap 5 is calling me too, I can feel it's pull.

WILFREDTJONES - 30 Days, look forward to it every year, and that's a good prize! Thanks Dead.net for being cool.

JIMINMD - I agree! That subject should not be taboo. May the human exploration into the cosmos and beyond continue!

Alright you all, keep on rockin' looking forward to the next pick here and in my mailbox.. shipping noticed received!

Be Well

What's on tap for tomorrow?

Jimbo, good to see you over here. Time for a pick. Send us one.

Still no shipping notice here.

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Oh,.. the pressure. I am not good at this. But since we are on the best sounding of the road trips. I would humbly suggest either the WOS road trips (6/18/74) or the 5/15/70 Road Trips.

If I had my way.. I would pick Louisville 74 in honor of the eminent release (Road Trips Vol 2 No 4). One other ask.. on or about the first received date of the next Dave's Picks. Would it be possible / make sense to hold this show open for a week so both the folks that get it first have time to comment and the folks that get a day (or six) later have time to participate? Seems reasonable to me. So a week and day of 1974?

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We could do 'From Egypt With Love?' Mix it up a little.

Real great Stella Blue even with the audience patch.

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I want to pick a show Vguy saw. It was his second and it cooks!

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Good choice, let's do The RT.2.3. Shows from 6/16 and 6/18 74.

I like your idea for Dave's #34.

FourWinds, let's hit up The From Egypt with Love RT tomorrow. 10/21 and 10/22 78. I have not listened to this one in a while.

Thanks guys.

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How funny i was grilling last night and I listened to half of the first CD!! Now i have a reason to listen to the rest.. bob t

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there was orange sunshine in the 90's? I only remember it back in the 60's and early 70's and it was the bomb, 4 way hits, which meant you only needed to take a quarter of a hit and they were kinda small, so it was quite easy to take a bit too much. :o fun times indeed. Did some yellow sunshine back then too, it was suppose to be 8 way, never did more than a crumb of that stuff, talk about mind blown. They don't make it like that anymore.
Mexican quaaludes, mandrax I think they were called, not the same as 714's but still lots of fun, they had an antihistamine in the mix to help keep you awake the first 30 mins or so, then it was all fun and stumbling and falling and laughing and feeling invincible, sure wish they hadn't outlawed that drug, one on my favorites. Ever try ludes and acid together? wow, what an experience that was, add some black nepalese hash on top and you are now in heaven. Back in those days, it was ok to have a trove of drugs, like Hunter Thompson said in fear and loathing:
"We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers...and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can." and push it we did.

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If it wasn't O S it was very good and very clean. After our first dabble we stayed up all night looking for the girl that had it bought a bunch and ate it all day. Don't want to put misinfo out there but, thats what she called it, we had a good time.

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....cueing it up now on the Archive (i don't own the physical copy). Avatar updated. Four winds says he wants top pick a show i saw? I recently listed my attended shows if you want to look. Just don't choose 5.19.95. Yuck. Vocal drop outs during the Freedom Hall Promised opener. Good ole Wall Of Sound.

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Many happy Road Trips over the years. Just finishing 5/23/69 lovelight . Amazing all the changes from live-dead era into Workingman’s era , nothing short of phenomenal creative drive.
There were a few lackluster Dead shows in the 70s ,but I never went to one back then that was less than amazing.
Would like to see a board tape of UCSB May 74 with Great American String Band set official release. Maria was real hot also. 74 was a banner year.
Seminole Powwow kicked ass. Dark Star was super improvisational . The 11 was exciting . Love-Light was also reflective of the youthful vigor of the band at that time.
Miss Indian World ,Cheyenne Kippenberger 2019-2021, is from the Hollywood , Florida Band of Seminole Tribe. Met her in Albuquerque during Gathering of Nations Powwow a year ago. She’s a real good person from one of the strongest of all the tribes in the country.
I still nominate 5/2/70 for this Saturday on its 50th anniversary .

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I suggested the 2nd ever show you saw. I thought this show had some unique Jerry playing on it especially for the time period. If we don't get to listen to it I'll understand but, maybe you can give your take on it I thought it was good for the time.

Ps. Fun fact, though I've never counted till today I got 28 of the 39 I saw on video.

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....it's View From The Vault 1. Maybe a video of the day with discussion is in order?
6.18.74's Ramble-On Rose was so good, i played it twice!!
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Alright, firing up 6/16/74 and already WOW on Sound Quality and playing on China Cat..

My Completist OCD has prevented me from frequent listening of this & from Egypt with Love.
It might be cool to hear them both again in their compilation order... already struggling with the whole notion of rearranged songs.. Deep Breath.. they sound good.

Talking about Orange Sunshine, Mexican Quaaludes, Ludes & Acid, HST gave me a nice Contact Buzz!

Thanks UNKLE SAM & FWB for that.. Keep ‘em coming.

I was still tripping from the Great Pow Wow! Both nights rocked real good. I dug that.

He Was A Friend & Death Don't were real good too hear again, along with all the rest of that psychedelic stuff.

Good times!

Meet Up At The Movies Quarantine Style sounds Awesome!

Shake up the Shakedown Stream.. with a little bonus footage:)

This Eyes sounds real nice..

EDIT: And 5/2/70 Anniversary sounds promising as well!!

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Eyes, Playin. Nice! Nobodys Jam, now were going old school. Love it!

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VGUY - Saturday works for me! PST

And 6/16 Eyes > Stronger Than Dirt > Big River is super!

Keith's piano... is he using a pedal or what's going on there?

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If nobody has interest in the '87 Anaheim second choice would be in honor of the resident care-taker of the Vault, the man on the inside. With Dave's very first pick 'Truckin' Up To Buffalo' '89.

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FWB - 4/10/20 - Shakedown Stream was "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" but 7/7/89 "Crimson White & Indigo" might have you in the crowd somewhere? Haven't seen that in awhile.

I'm down for View From The Vault V1 or '87 or whatever, just maybe something other than "Truckin' Up To Buffalo" as I just watched that recent. Just sayin'

DL said this week Shakedown Stream would be Closing of Winterland.

Alright, stoked to hear this 6/16/74 PITB for 28 minutes, but gotta wait till later and take care of some business first...

Be Well you All

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Yeah I forgot they did the '89 show but , The one I was talking about that i could be on film was Buffalo '90. Sorry for any confusion. JFK '89 we were in the bleachers half way back Jerry, Brent side.

I have the opener and the main act on audience video from Buffalo '90.

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Had to cue this one up on archive too, (and will tomorrow's "From Egypt" pick.) I really don't know why I slept on these Road Trip releases - I guess I was put off by the cut-up nature. Oh well - LMA is a-ok with me :) Just now on "Roses."

I had to run out for my weekly grocery trip yesterday, and Sirius was playing "To Lay Me Down" from Jai-Alai - sounded very good, though I am not sure if it was the soon to be delivered version or not.

I know that many here already know this, but if not, the Freedom Hall show "Eyes" is the version that Holly Bowling does on solo piano. She apparently transcribed the whole jam. I have never directly compared them note for note, but her version is really great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voLdRQ-19dc

EDIT: She actually does her own "version" of the verses, but the jam is transcribed. On "BTW" and it looks like the WoS has settled in and is sounding better - still some vocal drops, but the band sounds incredible!

Peace

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Check your PM.

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It's amazing the Jams and all then you get a China Doll that just melts your heart.

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One of my favorite road trips was this one... favorite bonus disc of the road trips was 12/6/73 with the 45 minute Dark Star from Cleveland.... bob t

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Am I the only one that still doesn't have a shipping notice?

Looks like Friday isn't happening for me.

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....no. You're not the only one.

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Yeah, I don't see Friday happening for the new pick.

Even with the shipping notice the USPS tracking is still showing awaiting package so I think we're looking at early to mid next week arrival.

But that's give us more time to pick cool shows to listen too!

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Taking a listen on the 49th anniversary of this show. Beautiful SBD recording with the Charlie Miller touch. Certainly I think easily within the cream of the Grateful Dead crop. Making it hard to focus on "work from home" at the moment.

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The best Lucy I ever heard and I think Eyes is better than the 6/16 may have to listen to it again, but WRS Jam, O1, I's a Sin, Stella maybe the best ever.

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  • bluecrow
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    Broadcast locally on KSAN. Reading now elsewhere (quadraphonicquad dot com) it was broadcast on KBFH 11/28/76 - 90 minute show so not whole concert. Lead post says it was broadcast in SQ Quad according to cue sheets? Seems some debate on this later point.

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    I didn’t know about it being a King B, thought it was local FM etc?
    So again, oh boy, come Dave WTF!
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    Yeah captcha needs to get fired!
    I’ve “failed” several times lately when I was correct and it was not!
    Like minivans being considered busses, cars that are in frames but captcha misses, etc
    “Captcha, yer fired” in best dumpster fire voice..lol

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    As memory served, I've thought for a few years that I'd read reference to multitracks for 7/18. So just now did a little search and came across post on deadthinking blog from 1/24/16 on the July '76 Orpheum run. first comment is from a reliable contributor, Light In Ashes, that Dave L. himself has said that they have multitracks for the show. As you know the show was broadcast nationally on King Biscuit flower Hour and I think King Biscuit shows were recorded in multitrack as a matter of course?
    Gonna have to dust off my copy of DaP 18 plus bonus disc from previous 2 nights and which contain some of my favorite released music from that era. Super way way out there and cool.
    recapcha was a real pain in the a** this morning - very drawn out, and at times super lousy pictures - missed once and I'm like what am I not seeing.

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    Is there multis…ooohhhh, “that would be something, really would be something…”
    Yeah, as I mentioned, I got the scalpel out this time and there is some hum at times (in left channel) and I think JGs guitar distorts at times, unless I’m thinking of a previous night?
    The track changes are sometimes kinda abrupt too, maybe to edit out pesky radio announcers/station ids etc?
    Oh, and the sound stage is flipped compared to every other previous show from the year?
    I only went with “my” version, but you had me at multis lol
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    Come on Dave, why oh why are you hoarding ANY good multitracks at this stage of the game, and don’t just dump it on PD, those deserve more, WE deserve more! Lol
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    And, if your gonna make us do recaptcha, PLEASE maybe make the images big enough so blind old people can see it, especially on a tiny device, THanks

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    I like that! 7/18/76 it shall be! Had a fine tape of Set II bitd but its been ages. Gonna spin the Charlie Miller remaster of the KSAN pre-FM.
    Edit - wow that Scarlet!!
    Edit - did a cursory A/B with Ashley Bertha remaster and think I like that a touch better. Interestingly sound stage is mirrored for the two? Ultimately a buzz/hum/pre-FM or no are moot points when we get an official release from the multitracks, right??!!

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    I have a very good copy of this show,,, it may have come from the archive back when you could download soundboards. Listening to Looks Like Rain. Bob and Donna are sounding GREAT together! Recording has great sound stage.

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    Been a favorite since I was a neophyte high to a grasshopper!
    One of my earliest tapes and this show just keeps getting better!
    I thought back in 77 or whenever I got the tape, that this was how they were supposed to sound all the time!
    Has the precision and well rehearsed, well played, majesty of the years previous shows, but after slowly working some jams back in, have cumulated in a veritable monster of quick, tight, precise segways and a desert island second set sequence not easily topped!
    You get some nice freshy, not overly played numbers at the time like 1/2 Step, Minglewood, Loser, a sweet Candyman as well as excellent versions of the standard fare from June July 76. I let you discover for yourself…
    Now I don’t recall a dud in the bunch from Boston all the way through the Orpheum, and the consistency is rock solid, but as could occasionally be the case with the dead, sometimes the first sets though very good, were maybe just a tad less enthusiastic for lack of better word. Some I like to call creepers. They start out ok, but slowly build up to a set closing peak, followed by an excellent, more exuberant second set.
    Not the case here. This beast has a top notch first set and a second set to die for.
    A prime example of the tight precision, and a always favorite moment, is when they slam back into LIG after one of those neat brief mini drum interludes with such force and precision it’s startling (at volume at least lol) even being familiar for decades. Oh, love JG calling the audible for St Stephen though you can hear Phil is totally heading for Stella Blue…so many moments, so much going on as their in one of those awesome super tight phases when they really listen to each other, tossing subtle cues around, to see what sticks etc…

    Only thing my greedy ass could add is imagine if there were one of the superb 76 Crazy Fingers and the H/S/F sequence somewhere lol hey, told ya I was greedy!
    But enough of my pontificating, get right and become one with one of perhaps the best GD shows of all time!
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    Oh, about sources.
    I’ve had a good copy from something my cousin picked up on that South American river several years ago called GD SF 1976 The Orpheum Theatre Broadcast on 3 CDs.
    Now I’ve stated that this copy is good enough that selfishly/greedily, I’d rather not have it officially released to save the pick for something else. But after giving it more of the scalpel this go round, and knowing there’s Betty’s of at least the last three shows (we know DaP 18 is fo sho) and knowing how ridiculously good many of the gussied up, released Betty’s are…well, I bet I could learn to live with it ; )
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    Onward!
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    In the spirit of “SeventySixtus”, think of it as your patriotic duty ; )

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    Good morning rockers!!

    Pick of the day? Go no further than Kirkwood, Missouri on May 14 1970. Why? Well.......you know.........May 1970.................

    Been avoiding the 58 thread. Why? Well............you know....................

    I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there.......

    Rock on,

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    I have a very good sound system and find the HD streaming absolutely exceptional. Stellar quality. Listen to Dave's 57...........

  • Shimanto
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    I agree on picking something and listening together. I have a big collection of Lossless recordings a good many of which are HD. I have Apple Music, a Dave’s Picks subscription and all. Why would I need a subscription to Play Dead? I got one just to check it out. Good God! Even though I am familiar with HD, I have a good DAC, amp, speakers etc. so I know the benefits of HD. Play Dead has blown me away and I haven’t even put it through the DAC yet. I have just been listening via USB in the car and with wired Apple earbuds. I don’t know if it is only in my head or what. It all sounds so great, I can’t believe it. Today 4/24/78 and Workingman’s 50th. It is like the heavens opened up and gave me a new form of music. Is this happening to anyone else or am I having some kind of freak out? It is so amazing. Every note is so clear. Phil’s bass is so detailed. I need a reality check to be sure I am not losing it.