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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • September 27, 2021 - 6:34pm
    DeadVikes
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    Watch out OB

    Yes, watch out Oroborous, 1-2!

  • September 27, 2021 - 6:34pm
    JimInMD
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    Hundred Year Hall

    Holy Crap... it was that long ago? Two comments.. I am old and Garcia has been gone a long time now.

    Thanks USam.. Agree, one of the best releases... ever. The whole show is great and that transition from Lovelight into GDTRFB is super special.

  • September 27, 2021 - 3:02pm
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    yesterday Hundred Year Hall was released. What a great recording, the art work for this release was and is out of sight and the liner notes by Hunter are just exactly perfect. So I am recommending it even though it is not a complete show, it still sounds mighty good. Of course you can hear the entire show if you bought the steamer trunk.

  • September 27, 2021 - 2:01pm
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    Totally

    Yeah, 81 was the last time they played there, never played the “the MA”, (until post JG) the venue that replaced the old Aud
    The Aud was one of those old war memorials that were everywhere, and especially up and down I 90, a big nasty drafty old place. Think they only played at the Aud 5 times? Twice in 73, and once in 77, 79, and 81? Hell, they didn’t play Buffalo much until Rich stadium...Starting in 86, they did five shows at “the Ralf” as known to locals, aka Rich Stadium. But I think only like 12 times total, if you count the legendary 3/17/70 philharmonic show! I’d give up my front seat in hell for a Beatty of that one!
    Earl of Bud was always a smile! Bet Angry Jack knows of Earl from both the Aud and the MA.
    I’ll take it as a sign since this show keeps popping up on “official” channels!
    Hey, Hendrixfreak doesn’t get to be the only one lobbying for @ shows lol!

  • September 27, 2021 - 1:39pm
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    Dave 9/26/81

    Dave was hyping up 9/26/81 for TIGDH. He was speaking generally about the venue.. that he had never seen the Dead there but had seen several hockey games at the same arena. ..and the Earl of Bud dancing. Does that make more sense?

    Got my only On the Road Again at my first show a few months later in Baltimore.

  • September 27, 2021 - 11:31am
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    Go Vikes!

    Lol, glad they won!
    Glad y’all dug 9/26/81! ...glad we’ve been digging the 81/91 pre 71 cleanse.
    I sorta remember something about BJ and the Europe 81 tapes, but was it the spring, or the longer and more well known fall Europe tour? Hmmm, have to research that one since slacker GOGD isn’t here to do it for us LOL.
    We miss ya buddy!

    This was my sixth show, (over span of almost 3 years, later I’d routinely tag that many in one tour lol)
    It was perhaps the only time I attended a show that was part of a social gathering (I can even remember most of the bars we went to after), and the first time not in prime seating location.
    Though we had decent seats: right side, up and back probably half way: I’d been fortunate to see 2 Front row, 2 third row, and ? probably 10-15 rows back on the floor for 11/9/79, so this was a big difference and sorta distraction, not that I would be able to understand that then. I just knew it sucked not being close up!
    Yep, Jim, Klondike Keek, and I, better know then collectively as the Booze Brothers, with Milton Wikelberry Steamer III, Tammy M, aka Buzz Kitten, and a couple of the Gates brothers that hung with Milty...perhaps more?
    So I remember On the Road Again (my only one) as Reckoning was new and in heavy rotation, and I know I loved it, but back then our knowledge of all things Dead wasn’t like now with Net and deadbase etc. so it was just sorta another Dead show. Over the years I had kinda forgot about it, and when I finally did hear it back a couple years, it was only a superficial treatment. I think late at night at a party on a shitty smart speaker?
    But my cousin kept telling me how Dave and Blitz kept playing it or parts here and there and seemed hot on it, so I’ve been wanting to catch up with it, and have been planing on it for a while. So of course the day comes, and I was hoping to get a nice mellow Sunday morning listen with some coffee, and when the weed is just right and hasn’t taken over the conversation for the day yet,...but, well, shit happens lol.
    So long story short it’s gettin on late afternoon, so ended up watching football before, which long story, was a bad tactical error lol, so when I did hear it I was sorta wrecked, definitely burnt after afternoon beer buzz etc, so needless to say THAT run through wasn’t productive lol.
    But got up today and have been quite digging on it this beautiful AM!
    So come on Dave, bring it! Ha!

    BLUCROW: still laughing/smiling over that Weirwolf story and the vendor...Think many of us have had a similar experience! Great stuff eh! Sounds like we were at many of the same front range shows back 96-05! Good Times fo sho!

    JIM: I’m confused? You mentioned Dave speaking on XM? about 9/25/91, and Earl of Bud etc,?
    Earl of Bud, Earl Patterson Howze Jr, was a fan favorite and staple at many Buffalo events for decades. He was a Beerman but wore this white tux and did the pee-wee big shoe dance during breaks in the game etc. he became quite a local celebrity over the years...id lynx if I could, ahem...
    So if 9/25/91 was in Boston, which is a rink with a despicable lol, but pretty good hockey team ; ) but Earl was in Bu fa falo, I’m confused? Perhaps Dave was discussing 9/26/81, again...?, which gives me hope! Lol, see, it’s always about getting shows released!
    Rural West Viginny, yasss sir that there is pretty country, just keep an eye out for that random banjo music ; )
    Sounds awesome, git yer paddle on Bra! Boo yah!
    ONWARD

    perhaps 10/28/91? Kinda burnt, maybe later...

    Still have 3 spring 81, the last 3 Oakland October 91, and 4/1/91, and Blucrows 80 suggestions....yeeshk
    Well, if the box comes on time, sorta?, then these outta keep us busy till then!
    Hope y’all get yers sooner than later!

    PS, if you haven’t checked out 9/26/91 ya should!

  • September 27, 2021 - 7:43am
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    9/26/81

    Yes, bring us some more 81!
    Took a crack at this show yesterday. What a show to be at Oroborous. The first set recording that is available needs some work, but yes I agree the second set Healy that is available sounds much better. You would have to think he has quite a few recordings of his own that will continue to drip out.

  • September 27, 2021 - 6:50am
    JimInMD
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    Release The Hounds

    Ha.. serendipitous. They played the post space part of 9/25 on TIGD History yesterday on SiriusXM. Dave got into quite the tangent on the venue, hockey and the guy called The Earl of Bud that got rowdy at hockey games and danced to the Tequila song whenever they had faceoffs...

    I was up early and gone all day driving into some of the more remote areas in Southern WV for some river fun.. what a beautiful state, had a blast.. so I had a lot of time in the truck to listen to music and out the door at 7am brought me to the later half of the second set. ..but it only had the Playing Reprise.

    I was in the truck 12 hours later and got a relisten, so I hit the full second set when I got back. Sweet second set, plus there's a pretty good Miller update that came out somewhat recently. Double Sweet.

    I guess I will have to hit the first set today. Great pick guys.. nice early show Oro (I think that came somewhat early in your show seeing days??).

    Onward.. have a great week all. Fall has arrived here in the mid atlantic.

  • September 26, 2021 - 5:32pm
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    9/26/81 - oh yeah!!

    Oro - a great pick made even better that you were there. A sweet listen end to end. It was that very rare Sunday morning when I'm up in the work space and it was a perfect show to stream. Must say, like about every drummers birthday riff, Bob is totally making it up as to Chuck Berry's birthday. I'd love to ask him about that made-up birthday thing he's got - he was trotting it out all the freaking time.

    Gotta hope that the first set is in the vault in well-recorded entirety . Great songs, excellent and spirited playing. full throttle Shakedown > CC Rider to start. Oh my goodness. V Guy has his Cumberland thing. My "thing" is a slightly more expansive. Not just Cumberland, but Brown-Eyed Women, Peggy-O, and Jack-a-Roe(!!). Big Railroad. Me and Bobby McGee. This show has both Brown-Eyed and Jack-a-Roe, plus (added bonus) On the Road Again. Before 8/7/82 my youngest brother (#1 son counting backwards) said he wanted to hear On the Road Again. I said no way they're playing that. You bet, they played it.

    That pre-drumz second set has got to be unique. The transitions from Bertha > Estimated and Estimated > Going Down The Road are pretty B/W, as is GDTR > drums, all very cool in the energy shift. Love the tone on circa '81 Not Fades (just wish they'd jammed it out a bit more.) Bobby has a tiny misstep trying to bring back the NFA chorus. But Jerry is all focused on Morning Dew, not that it's immediately evident, but no big deal Bob.

    Given an earlier comment I made, the portion of the show available from Healy's cassette master sounds pretty damn good.

    Dave L. - release the hounds, I mean, release this show ;)

  • September 26, 2021 - 6:56am
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    9/26/81

    9/26/81 - all in!!

    glancing at set list night before that and there's something I've never seen - a Sugar Mag / Sunshine Daydream sandwich post drums. '80 and '81 are filled with great shows and it would have helped if Betty had been at the helm recording a whole bunch of them on reels (cue picky deadhead comment).

    DeadVikes - trust me the Midwest is still the land of my childhood heart. I know you're back there but was thinking you were somewhere a bit north of Chi-Town?

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

If we are going to do 11/8/69, I am going to have to carve out the requisite amount of time like we did Saturday.. no distractions, no cell phones, no texts, no questions, no one tapping me on my shoulder.. and not the dreaded words, "one more thing" .. and of course get in the proper frame of mind beforehand.

Honestly.. these two shows, add in 2/14/68, 2/13&14/70, sprinkle in FW 69 for good measure and I have taken a liking to 1/2/70 + Bonus disc and an honorable mention for what I think of when I want to get in the transportation business.

Boy does listening to these shows take a lot out of you.. perhaps that's why they wrote AB & WMD.. to slow things down just before we careened off that cliff and into mental oblivion.

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GMLSG sounds as smooth as butter,,,

re, Well... I just hit play but, I paused it. Jim, when is a good time for you I'll wait??

The planets seem perfectly aligned this Thursday. That seems enough time to plan.

That will give us some time to switch things up too.. play around the calendar, pick shows from different periods too.

Does that give us enough time to plan?

That's a pretty nifty number ya got there!

I am all for Dick's 16, but if we need to pause on it to soak up Jai-Alai, I get that too. Let's keep this thing going! I am all for GD from any era!

Today was a good day for 74 Dead around here. Shortly after my early morning Dave's 34 was delivered (at 6:30 am!) I got another package from Real Gone containing Dick's 31, which I looked into after all of the discussion around these parts.

I hope I don't over do the 74 stuff - wait, I don't think that will ever happen.

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....and the sound is already impeccable. And to quote Bobby "Its the real thing".
Just like Billy Sunday in a shotgun ragtime band. This pick came at the right time.

We can pause while the WOS gently peels the plaster from our ceilings.

Whatever works.

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Okay on the pause for the Picks. I will keep my own going tomorrow as my #34 is still in CA.. Okay, no whining here, that gets old.

Oh yah I might have chased a couple women around..., the waiting is the hardest part.

Week eight of this crap, be well people.

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No problem all good. Those who have received the 34 happy listening!

"New ones coming as the old ones go"

Alright, sounds like the Pick of The Day is in hold pattern as we wait for & listen to the Pick of The Dave.

#34 to be exact - 6/23/74 & 6/22/74 Bonus Disc

Roger that.

I'll proceed accordingly...

Sherman set the Wayback machine to June 1974, we're going to listen to the Wall of Sound.

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I love the overlap of old ( psychedelic ) & new ( country/workingmans ) . It’s the palindrome 69 major phase shifting. The sound of small venues compared to larger halls or outdoor concerts all have different ambience . Same goes for instruments ( Jerry’s guitars) . Gibson SG in 1969-70. A whole slew of different axes in 1971. Wall of Sound 1974, with Doug Irwin Wolf Guitar.
Suggesting different eras of GD has been educational, even heard / seen fresh, and in 2020. Who would have known fifty years ago.

RE: STRIDER 88

Interesting observation and I believe you've tapped into something.

Hypothesis:
Does inspiration then lead to a love of learning?

I would venture to guess.. Yes!

Prediction:
Being inspired by Grateful Dead music, if I listen to the Grateful Dead from many eras over and over and over, through the course of many days and years, I'll want to learn more and will be loving it!

Test Prediction:
Continue listening to lots and lots of Grateful Dead from many different eras and discuss with friends.. ad infinitum

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Perfect timing. I got an amp and speakers on the way. Had to take advantage of the 30% offer. I got the speak's for half price and ac line filter for free. I'll be putting off listening to 34 till I get set up.

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Carson, CA 5.5.90. 30th anniversary.My final Brent shows.
https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-05.141262.sbd.miller.flac2496/05S…
Rumors were rampant these shows that Timothy Leary was backstage dosing everyone. The band does sound "fat and juicy", so I can see where it could be true. Phil was turned WAY up.
I remember hanging out with some hare krishnas after the show eating free rice.

Strider...I think Jerry started playing a strat at some gigs in 1969, and on through 1970, as well as the mighty SG. This always seemed to me to be a signifier of the bands gradual shift to a more country based sound. As you indicate, they could still turn on the psychedelic power in 1969 and 1970 - but the times they were a changing .

Whew.. saved from an 11/8/69 induced nervous breakdown.

Edit: Saved for now. It's always the bats that start these things. Well, a melty PITB, then the bats. Look out for Dark Star>The Other One>Dark Star's too. A sure sign that society is in collapse.

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Bats have got themselves a bad reputation lately. Hunter knew it long ago.

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DaveRock , I can only go on photographs before 1970. I believe you’re correct, Jerry would use a strat for some late 69-70 songs. Of the ten times I saw them in 1970 I only remember the Gibson SG. 1971 was all over the map. Starting with seeing the SG my last time same night as Mickeys last show 2/18/71. The next few nights was the peanut Alembic experimental . By April Jerry was playing a Les Paul and then the peanut some nights. First time I saw Jerry play a Fender Stratocaster was at the Felt Forum 12/4/71. Then 2-3 strats through 72/ 73. The Wolf was a real game changer.
This is a fresh way of listening the good ole Grateful Dead.

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Strider...I am only going off photographs of course-I have nothing like the first hand experiences you are talking about. It must have been amazing to see them in 1970-1971-truly a mythical time. The photos I remember of him with a strat in 1969-70 are mainly in the Taping Compendium. Jerry is holding a sunburst strat in the picture accompanying the Feb 70 shows.
Its always interested me which guitars he played at shows-and Bob too, to a lesser extent. I watched the Festival Express dvd a few weeks ago, and Jerry is jamming with...a band who's name escapes me...but he is playing a tele. I don't think he played one of those very often.

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Good call Daverock, I need to watch that this weekend

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Thanks for joining in on this one Vguy and Jim. Loved the cover last night Vguy. Recording is Multi Track excellence as all these shows are. Have not listened to this show in maybe three years. Of the three Omni shows, I usually pull 4/3/1990, maybe because of that glorious Shakedown opener.
Anyway, Vguy, agree with you on this show. Great first set, with a great Althea, to Lay me Down, Music Never Stopped. Even the Victim is good. China Rider, what did that guy say last night about Ship of Fools??
Great Truckin, Stella, Sugar Magnolia and one of favorite encores, It's All Over Now Baby Blue. Great show.

Check it out if you have not listened in a while.

Be well all!

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....Victim -> Lay Me Down -> MNS is solid. Raucous Sugar Mags. And who doesn't like a Baby Blue? I know this guy does!

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I'm half way through 4/1/90. Althea was playing on our boombox at a motel room at an airport at the giants show in '89 with my friends. Like anyone would care.

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He called us fools talking about potholders and other normal things. Strange.

I didn't make it through the whole show.. but made it beyond the Victim/Lay Me Down. Let it be known I LOVE To Lay Me Down, but the Victim was so much better ( a song I don't normally adhere to).

Anyway.. just had to comment. Not coherent enough to add much more than that.

Who's fucking idea was it to watch Festival Express anyway.. a great yet terrible idea all at the same time. Thank god nobody drives cars anymore. My liver and my lungs both suddenly hurt both at once.

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Man, it was HOT down there!

Anyway, just catching up. I did dabble with disc 2 of Dick's 16 the other night... that is some mind-altering stuff. It looks like yesterday was 4/1/90 - just started "Touch" now.

Today is Three from the Vault? Sounds good to me :)

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Sounds grate, and it’s not even Plangentized.

Smokestack Lightning! Grease it up.

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I’m there. And was there.

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I loved that Omni show! I didn't get either of the Spring 90 boxes, so this show was new to me (at least for a good, quality sit-down and listen.) I LOVED it! The band is so hot, Brent in particular was on fire, the Bobby tunes rocked, and there were so many high-quality Jerry ballads. I mean, a show that has a "Candyman" "To Lay Me Down" "Ship of Fools" "Stella Blue" AND "Baby Blue" - c'mon... all played very well too!

Just started on 2/19/71 - the first Billy-solo show. Was this chosen to celebrate Billy's b-day? Good choice! I haven't listened to this one in a while!

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I remember from 2/19/71 was, “where’s Mickey?”. Was disappointed at the beginning of the show. The level of musicianship had greatly evolved since 1967 or last time as five piece. They blew the roof off the Capitol Theater that night. Jerry played his Alembec experimental “peanut” guitar for the first time on 2/19 and continued to play it the next several nights.I went Thursday through Sunday nights. I vaguely remember Weir commenting on Sunday as it being slow. As I remember it was sold out all nights. Unlike November 1970 shows in Port Chester when I could buy tickets night of the shows at the box office. Fillmore East was harder to get Dead tickets and February 71 shows sold out in hours . I bought tickets by getting in line at 5 am on a December (1970) Saturday morning. “What’s become of the baby that cold December morn”. Blair Jackson was in that same ticket line. 70/71 was quite the phase shift. Keep em guessing.

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Strider...do you remember much about the ESP experiments at these shows?

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Nice pick Conekid!.
Always thought it was odd this came out in 2007 and with no real explanation why it took so long to get it out.

Great recording with A+ sound quality. Really good Truckin, Dark Hollow, China Rider. Really liked the Greatest Story, early Bird Song. Did somebody say, Easy Wind? This was great and I wish this got more play as well as New Speedway Boogie.
Great finish!

Strider, you were there, really cool.

Good to see you here Oroborous, I thought a Spring 1990 pick might peek your interest.

Otis, as a huge Brent fan, you should consider the Spring 1990 box sets. Highly recommend.

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I think this is the thread where Jim mention Victim -> Lay Me Down (1990-04-01). I'm a huge fan of Victim, this is a great one. I think this is the depths that, Just a Little LIght, Blow Away, Foolish Heart (if Jerry could remember words when he came out of jam :-) ) could have reached. Picasso Moon probably didn't have much too go! :-) But I really like a good Corinna.

Great Victim though, thanks for pointing it out.

Is there a better "Just a Little Light", than Dozin' at the Knick? Come on? Is there? Just took it off , best.

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Only that it was a random image , not all the time. I do remember Bob and Betty being set up on a side balcony booth. Saturday night was the major rave up night. NRPS finishing their set w Honkey Tonk Woman and the crowd going bonkers, balcony shaking. Weir, Pigpen and Pigs girl friend Veronica watched the end of the NRPS set from back stage right, Bobby shaking his head as if to say”tonight’s the night”. Highlights from 2/19 for me are Smokestack Lightning. Jerry’s use of the Alembec experimental peanut guitar looked amazing after he used his Gibson SG the night before. The peanut guitar was very small in its size but belted out a sweet big sound that was especially evident during Johnny B Goode, that had most of the audience up dancing. A few people at my high school would go one night only , but I was completely consumed.
Too bad there are not many (any)more 1970 tapes. Anything from either 1970 or 1971 is no less than spectacular .