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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

If we are going to do 11/8/69, I am going to have to carve out the requisite amount of time like we did Saturday.. no distractions, no cell phones, no texts, no questions, no one tapping me on my shoulder.. and not the dreaded words, "one more thing" .. and of course get in the proper frame of mind beforehand.

Honestly.. these two shows, add in 2/14/68, 2/13&14/70, sprinkle in FW 69 for good measure and I have taken a liking to 1/2/70 + Bonus disc and an honorable mention for what I think of when I want to get in the transportation business.

Boy does listening to these shows take a lot out of you.. perhaps that's why they wrote AB & WMD.. to slow things down just before we careened off that cliff and into mental oblivion.

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GMLSG sounds as smooth as butter,,,

re, Well... I just hit play but, I paused it. Jim, when is a good time for you I'll wait??

The planets seem perfectly aligned this Thursday. That seems enough time to plan.

That will give us some time to switch things up too.. play around the calendar, pick shows from different periods too.

Does that give us enough time to plan?

That's a pretty nifty number ya got there!

I am all for Dick's 16, but if we need to pause on it to soak up Jai-Alai, I get that too. Let's keep this thing going! I am all for GD from any era!

Today was a good day for 74 Dead around here. Shortly after my early morning Dave's 34 was delivered (at 6:30 am!) I got another package from Real Gone containing Dick's 31, which I looked into after all of the discussion around these parts.

I hope I don't over do the 74 stuff - wait, I don't think that will ever happen.

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....and the sound is already impeccable. And to quote Bobby "Its the real thing".
Just like Billy Sunday in a shotgun ragtime band. This pick came at the right time.

We can pause while the WOS gently peels the plaster from our ceilings.

Whatever works.

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Okay on the pause for the Picks. I will keep my own going tomorrow as my #34 is still in CA.. Okay, no whining here, that gets old.

Oh yah I might have chased a couple women around..., the waiting is the hardest part.

Week eight of this crap, be well people.

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No problem all good. Those who have received the 34 happy listening!

"New ones coming as the old ones go"

Alright, sounds like the Pick of The Day is in hold pattern as we wait for & listen to the Pick of The Dave.

#34 to be exact - 6/23/74 & 6/22/74 Bonus Disc

Roger that.

I'll proceed accordingly...

Sherman set the Wayback machine to June 1974, we're going to listen to the Wall of Sound.

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I love the overlap of old ( psychedelic ) & new ( country/workingmans ) . It’s the palindrome 69 major phase shifting. The sound of small venues compared to larger halls or outdoor concerts all have different ambience . Same goes for instruments ( Jerry’s guitars) . Gibson SG in 1969-70. A whole slew of different axes in 1971. Wall of Sound 1974, with Doug Irwin Wolf Guitar.
Suggesting different eras of GD has been educational, even heard / seen fresh, and in 2020. Who would have known fifty years ago.

RE: STRIDER 88

Interesting observation and I believe you've tapped into something.

Hypothesis:
Does inspiration then lead to a love of learning?

I would venture to guess.. Yes!

Prediction:
Being inspired by Grateful Dead music, if I listen to the Grateful Dead from many eras over and over and over, through the course of many days and years, I'll want to learn more and will be loving it!

Test Prediction:
Continue listening to lots and lots of Grateful Dead from many different eras and discuss with friends.. ad infinitum

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Perfect timing. I got an amp and speakers on the way. Had to take advantage of the 30% offer. I got the speak's for half price and ac line filter for free. I'll be putting off listening to 34 till I get set up.

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Carson, CA 5.5.90. 30th anniversary.My final Brent shows.
https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-05.141262.sbd.miller.flac2496/05S…
Rumors were rampant these shows that Timothy Leary was backstage dosing everyone. The band does sound "fat and juicy", so I can see where it could be true. Phil was turned WAY up.
I remember hanging out with some hare krishnas after the show eating free rice.

Strider...I think Jerry started playing a strat at some gigs in 1969, and on through 1970, as well as the mighty SG. This always seemed to me to be a signifier of the bands gradual shift to a more country based sound. As you indicate, they could still turn on the psychedelic power in 1969 and 1970 - but the times they were a changing .

Whew.. saved from an 11/8/69 induced nervous breakdown.

Edit: Saved for now. It's always the bats that start these things. Well, a melty PITB, then the bats. Look out for Dark Star>The Other One>Dark Star's too. A sure sign that society is in collapse.

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Bats have got themselves a bad reputation lately. Hunter knew it long ago.

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DaveRock , I can only go on photographs before 1970. I believe you’re correct, Jerry would use a strat for some late 69-70 songs. Of the ten times I saw them in 1970 I only remember the Gibson SG. 1971 was all over the map. Starting with seeing the SG my last time same night as Mickeys last show 2/18/71. The next few nights was the peanut Alembic experimental . By April Jerry was playing a Les Paul and then the peanut some nights. First time I saw Jerry play a Fender Stratocaster was at the Felt Forum 12/4/71. Then 2-3 strats through 72/ 73. The Wolf was a real game changer.
This is a fresh way of listening the good ole Grateful Dead.

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Strider...I am only going off photographs of course-I have nothing like the first hand experiences you are talking about. It must have been amazing to see them in 1970-1971-truly a mythical time. The photos I remember of him with a strat in 1969-70 are mainly in the Taping Compendium. Jerry is holding a sunburst strat in the picture accompanying the Feb 70 shows.
Its always interested me which guitars he played at shows-and Bob too, to a lesser extent. I watched the Festival Express dvd a few weeks ago, and Jerry is jamming with...a band who's name escapes me...but he is playing a tele. I don't think he played one of those very often.

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Good call Daverock, I need to watch that this weekend

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Thanks for joining in on this one Vguy and Jim. Loved the cover last night Vguy. Recording is Multi Track excellence as all these shows are. Have not listened to this show in maybe three years. Of the three Omni shows, I usually pull 4/3/1990, maybe because of that glorious Shakedown opener.
Anyway, Vguy, agree with you on this show. Great first set, with a great Althea, to Lay me Down, Music Never Stopped. Even the Victim is good. China Rider, what did that guy say last night about Ship of Fools??
Great Truckin, Stella, Sugar Magnolia and one of favorite encores, It's All Over Now Baby Blue. Great show.

Check it out if you have not listened in a while.

Be well all!

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....Victim -> Lay Me Down -> MNS is solid. Raucous Sugar Mags. And who doesn't like a Baby Blue? I know this guy does!

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I'm half way through 4/1/90. Althea was playing on our boombox at a motel room at an airport at the giants show in '89 with my friends. Like anyone would care.

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He called us fools talking about potholders and other normal things. Strange.

I didn't make it through the whole show.. but made it beyond the Victim/Lay Me Down. Let it be known I LOVE To Lay Me Down, but the Victim was so much better ( a song I don't normally adhere to).

Anyway.. just had to comment. Not coherent enough to add much more than that.

Who's fucking idea was it to watch Festival Express anyway.. a great yet terrible idea all at the same time. Thank god nobody drives cars anymore. My liver and my lungs both suddenly hurt both at once.

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Man, it was HOT down there!

Anyway, just catching up. I did dabble with disc 2 of Dick's 16 the other night... that is some mind-altering stuff. It looks like yesterday was 4/1/90 - just started "Touch" now.

Today is Three from the Vault? Sounds good to me :)

Peace

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Sounds grate, and it’s not even Plangentized.

Smokestack Lightning! Grease it up.

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I’m there. And was there.

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I loved that Omni show! I didn't get either of the Spring 90 boxes, so this show was new to me (at least for a good, quality sit-down and listen.) I LOVED it! The band is so hot, Brent in particular was on fire, the Bobby tunes rocked, and there were so many high-quality Jerry ballads. I mean, a show that has a "Candyman" "To Lay Me Down" "Ship of Fools" "Stella Blue" AND "Baby Blue" - c'mon... all played very well too!

Just started on 2/19/71 - the first Billy-solo show. Was this chosen to celebrate Billy's b-day? Good choice! I haven't listened to this one in a while!

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I remember from 2/19/71 was, “where’s Mickey?”. Was disappointed at the beginning of the show. The level of musicianship had greatly evolved since 1967 or last time as five piece. They blew the roof off the Capitol Theater that night. Jerry played his Alembec experimental “peanut” guitar for the first time on 2/19 and continued to play it the next several nights.I went Thursday through Sunday nights. I vaguely remember Weir commenting on Sunday as it being slow. As I remember it was sold out all nights. Unlike November 1970 shows in Port Chester when I could buy tickets night of the shows at the box office. Fillmore East was harder to get Dead tickets and February 71 shows sold out in hours . I bought tickets by getting in line at 5 am on a December (1970) Saturday morning. “What’s become of the baby that cold December morn”. Blair Jackson was in that same ticket line. 70/71 was quite the phase shift. Keep em guessing.

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Strider...do you remember much about the ESP experiments at these shows?

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Nice pick Conekid!.
Always thought it was odd this came out in 2007 and with no real explanation why it took so long to get it out.

Great recording with A+ sound quality. Really good Truckin, Dark Hollow, China Rider. Really liked the Greatest Story, early Bird Song. Did somebody say, Easy Wind? This was great and I wish this got more play as well as New Speedway Boogie.
Great finish!

Strider, you were there, really cool.

Good to see you here Oroborous, I thought a Spring 1990 pick might peek your interest.

Otis, as a huge Brent fan, you should consider the Spring 1990 box sets. Highly recommend.

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I think this is the thread where Jim mention Victim -> Lay Me Down (1990-04-01). I'm a huge fan of Victim, this is a great one. I think this is the depths that, Just a Little LIght, Blow Away, Foolish Heart (if Jerry could remember words when he came out of jam :-) ) could have reached. Picasso Moon probably didn't have much too go! :-) But I really like a good Corinna.

Great Victim though, thanks for pointing it out.

Is there a better "Just a Little Light", than Dozin' at the Knick? Come on? Is there? Just took it off , best.

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Only that it was a random image , not all the time. I do remember Bob and Betty being set up on a side balcony booth. Saturday night was the major rave up night. NRPS finishing their set w Honkey Tonk Woman and the crowd going bonkers, balcony shaking. Weir, Pigpen and Pigs girl friend Veronica watched the end of the NRPS set from back stage right, Bobby shaking his head as if to say”tonight’s the night”. Highlights from 2/19 for me are Smokestack Lightning. Jerry’s use of the Alembec experimental peanut guitar looked amazing after he used his Gibson SG the night before. The peanut guitar was very small in its size but belted out a sweet big sound that was especially evident during Johnny B Goode, that had most of the audience up dancing. A few people at my high school would go one night only , but I was completely consumed.
Too bad there are not many (any)more 1970 tapes. Anything from either 1970 or 1971 is no less than spectacular .

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    David Letterman said someone walked up to him and said, "Are you who I think you are?" to which he replied (had this ready as it probably happens a lot) "Who do you think I are." and the guy says Dick Van Dyke. David had a funny look as he's telling this. Not sure if insulted or pleased. Must be the beard!
    Cheers

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    Hadn't seen it mentioned but Dick Van Dyke turned 100.

    (que music and trip over otterman)

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    Alright, always enjoyed this show from Providence. I am in. Thanks OB.

    I will add the post Egypt shows in 78 are my favorite part of the year. Besides RT1.4, they haven't released much from this time period.

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    I'm in!
    You had me at '78.
    This SBD Charlie Miller sounds damn good even on my crappy computer.
    Cheers
    Donated to Archive too.
    Here's the discussion part :
    Through Estimated now and a great the bus is firing on all cylinders show so far. Jeez I like so many but Big River, BEW like a good bourbon, smooth and smokin'. Longest LIG? Like a jammy middle that so many of these songs have this show. Keith's intro in Samson and more put this Samson in my top 5 but I don't know who gets bumped off that list. Jerry growls into Ship of Fools. The party favors were so pure those years, lol. Quality!
    Dang this Eyes giddy-ups!. And this NFA starts so beautifully. I'm 6 min into it and we're still noodling. Yeah, Oro's got it, JG just rips here.

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    Or, careful what ya wish for ; )

    5/14/78 JG just rips!

    So in case your the one person out there that doesn’t know it, I listen to A LOT of Dead.
    All kinds, usually by the tour or even concerted efforts to do whole years.
    My quest has become to hit em all…for good or for I’ll…
    Just sorta serendipitously started here on POTD during the vid when many had nothing better to do lol
    It became apparent that my obsession/project was not conducive to a group of folks attempting to coalesce around one particular show, at the same time things were beginning to “normalize” (ahem, that’s debatable), So participation dwindled, especially when our awesome friend GOGD stopped hanging : (
    Fortunately, Loyal diehards like DV and BC have tried to carry the torch, and Doctor Death has tried to keep it alive with his organized campaign of favorites etc.
    But it was obvious that my methods were not appropriate for this board.

    So I’ve been going native and quietly but diligently continuing onward, through the fog!
    Part of that has been a more slow, thoughtful digestion of the ETR box instead of the more normal approach of just gobbling it up, then back to my quest.
    But since the 60th seemed like kinda a big deal to me at least, not just another reason to buy shit, I figured I would make each show count by including other picks from that year to get reacquainted, and compare and compliment the box choice. Sometimes I tied the box choice into the flow of my quest i.e., second half of 72, where I started at 6/17/72 and listened in order to probably 98% of everything through the rest of the year, including most but not a couple of repeats.
    I also took a couple weeks and went hard on 1975 with the BFA anny etc.
    I listened to each ETR box show at least twice (some more) and usually via a sit down deep dive. This approach has been thoroughly rewarding and enjoyable, though I’m only a little past half…so far!
    My latest was the 5/13/78 show, which I’d heard once and liked, but didn’t find it RJ.
    I’ve also been fortunate this past year or so to pick up some “real” copies of some shows I had copies from some very fine folks here, but it’s always fun to get the real deal for the collection etc. So I figured Id play the actual discs to ensure they were trouble free as part of my treatment of the 78 show.
    So I started with Dicks 18, then Dave’s 15 and 7, back to Dicks 25, followed by the ETR 5/13 show, and the 5/14,( my pick today, from Boxilla). I’ve also started on the July box and am currently on 7/5. Next I’ll skip RR, and move to December 78 to hit the last 8 or 10 shows I’ve not yet heard from this year.
    So why 5/14? Well, I finally dug into DP 25 a bit as I’d not fully before, and it is apparent like Dave mentions in the liners for 15? I think, that something changed after the end of that spring run. Perhaps not drastic, perhaps nuanced enough causal listening won’t illuminate it?
    But the rest of the year seems to progressively get a little more dangerous, less buttery smooth 77 super model? Exciting, only those who go over the edge know where it lies to butcher HST.
    Personally, I’ve always liked the not so perfect, dangerous, occasionally off the rails Dead, but that’s just a personal preference, as I like all eras etc. But primal, 78, and 85 hold a extra special sentiment for me.
    So the run after spring is good, but different, with good consistency if not RJ status, though I noted 5/8 stood out a bit. The May run seems to eventually rise above this perfectly fine plateau. starting to peak with the DP 25 shows, continuing slightly upward with the ETR show which I enjoyed much more with a proper listen and in my new listening room, finally dialed in after several months.
    But I found the peak of the May run to be the Boxilla 5/14/78 show!
    Thought I’d heard it at least superficially once (still not sure I’ve “heard” all of Boxilla yet lol)
    But maybe I hadn’t as I had no notes and boy howdy did this one sit my up and slap me silly!
    Set and setting or…?
    Ya know, sometimes ya get shown the light. Specifically, JG just rips!
    That’s perhaps one of the variables of “the change” sometimes individuals are just stepping out and blowing their top and going for it rather than the more laid back listen to the whole and build slow style.Again, subtle, though you can clearly hear it on the 7/1 huge stadium show as their trying to rock so hard to move that huge crowd, versus that slow group gestalt flow of buttery yore. They sound like individuals trying to hard individualistically to effect the whole. Rocking and fun, but nothings like that “More Than Human” kind of big band peak style.
    Don’t misunderstand, it’s all good, just different and why some of us nuts have to listen to whole tours etc, to “furthur” understand!
    So 5/14 is a sweet combo of this still very cohesive smooth Dead, but JG is not afraid to let er rip, even if sometimes there’s a little road kill left behind. Maybe A tad less group cohesivenesses?
    But Right outta the gate, loud and proud through 1/2 Step and Cassidy, yee dang ha! Pulls back a tad on TLEO, but let’s go again in LLR, continuing on cruising speed to build up to a rollicking set closing LIG! Phew, good sheet Mon!
    The second set continues at super sonic altitude with my personal highlife being Estimated, and the Eyes out jam etc. that’s the stuff!
    Previously, I dug the next Chi town and two odd west coasters, but this 5/14 show really does seem to be a peak of sorts before something new is waiting to be born, as it always was with the band. Or maybe just the beginning of the end of that wonderful band version?
    Perhaps necessity required both?
    I dug the fall shows back aways, another time full of holes that needed filling, and look foward to completing 78 with the December shows I’ve missed. And there’s too much to even touch on about spring tour, but that little period end of May is yet another of those little treasure troves, a little outta the way place, possibly easy to miss, or not fully appreciate in light of the rest of the superb year!
    So maybe give 5/14/78 a good listen or two and let er rip!
    Onward!

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    As one of many regular lurkers hereabouts, hopefully, maybe, possibly, perchance this thread ain't dead yet. Thanks for your recent rekindling efforts Forensicdoceleven. Maybe Oro will, sooner than later, end his boycott – that'd help. The format may be funky, but the banter is clean. . . Onward?

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    Hey rockers!!!

    This being December 2, we should all be listening to the fine Boston Music Hall show of December 2 1971. I think I'll do that right now!!! See ya there!!!

    As I recall, there's some odd things about this show, and yes we discussed all that LAST year lol....

    Memory is a complicated thing, a relative to truth, but not its twin.....

    Rock on and savor the memories!!!

    Doc
    How strange are the tricks of memory, which, often hazy as a dream about the most important events of a man's life, religiously preserve the merest trifles.....

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    Morning rockers!!

    This thread appears dead, let's bring it back to life....................

    Houston, Texas November 19 1972

    One of the first Fall 72 shows I ever had. Some jammy goodness in the first set.A Box Of Rain. Rare Tomorrow Is Forever. Always loved the Dark Star/WRS prelude/Half Step. Really strong show, think I'll listen on my morning commute.....

    When will the Texas 72 box set be released? HendrixFreak wants to know.......

    Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?

    My friends, life is short, so rock on!

    Doc
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    Proudfoot -That was my first proper album, which I got for Christmas in 1971. I didn't know what you meant concerning the lyrics for Planet Queen, so I've just had a look. I see what you mean...amazing what was considered acceptable back in 1971. I don't think anyone would have noticed anything wrong with that back in the day. But now..

    As for Good Morning Little Schoolgirl....it's hard to imagine a song being quite as wrong as that. It was really popular among blues rock bands of the 60's and 70's too. True what they say about the past being another country.

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    gotta hear that album again soon

    even though track 2 on side two has a Jeffrey Epstein vibe

    as does Good Morning Little Schoolgirl (never one of my favorite GD tracks anyway.)