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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • January 24, 2022 - 7:02am
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    Taking a liberty with the word classic

    Doc - with those 1978 shows - Egypt and Winterland, I was thinking of them as being classics because of the surrounding circumstances, not the actual playing. I would agree that the Winterland shows in October 1978 are better than both. But Egypt has become legendary merely because it took place in Egypt...again, The Taping Compendium goes to town on them. Maybe its a case of - nice shows, shame about the music.
    With Winterland 78, that seemed classic because again, you had Ken Kesey in the mix - and John Cipollina jamming away there. The Other One and Dark Star show up. All very legendary. Unfortunately none of these ingredients are actually all that good - the Dark Star and Other One are very pale compared to the great earlier ones. And John Cipollina doesn't look as though he knows quite what to do half the time. According to Lenny Kaye, in his recent book "Lightning Striking", when Cipollina played with Man in 1975 -"True to form, he is out of tune, as if tuning matters in his moving target of temprament." He was John Cipollina for chrissake.
    But that Dead New Years 78 show feels like the end of an era to me.

  • January 24, 2022 - 6:13am
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    Dave's 19

    Yes, great show, Honolulu. Jim, we did hit this one up within the last two months here, but, repeats are always welcome.

    Thanks Doc.

    Okay, I would like to offer up 6/6/91, Deer Creek. This is a good period for the Dead and very well recorded. Another Pearson Healy.

    Oh and if you didn't listen to it yet, you should check out Otis's pick of 12/30/86, worth a listen, good show.

  • January 24, 2022 - 5:35am
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    Hands down classics

    2/14/68, 10/12/68, 2/27/69, 3/1/69 (the 1st set opener is hard to top from any era), 5/2/70. A short list, There are so many great shows after 5/2/70, but I don't listen to enough Dead music to really know which would be considered classics, I'll leave that to the pros around here.

  • January 24, 2022 - 4:46am
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    It takes a very deep-rooted opinion to survive unexpressed.....

    LOL I feel like poking the bear this morning.............

    Egypt? Not classic. The Winterland shows that followed----pretty fine, maybe semi-classic. 12/31/78? One Dark Star does not a classic make, especially if under rehearsed. Not classic, but pretty good--and big fun---New Year's show.

    When it comes to classics, don't forget 10/12-13/68, 4/6/69, FW 2/70, 5/15/70, Port Chester Fall 70, 4/28/71, 11/7/71, 12/5/71, 5/3/72, 5/26/72. Well, I could on and on, but I'll stop now and maybe do some work...........

    Doc
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  • January 24, 2022 - 4:37am
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    The universe is transformation: life is opinion............

    Hey there rockers!!

    Just one man's opinion:

    The 8/27/72 Creamery Benefit is one of the greatest overrated shows ever. Granted, it has it's moments, but almost every E72 is better and many Fall 72 shows are equal or better. I think back in the day it acquired classic status based on the circumstances and the fact that it was one of the first widely circulated 1972 recordings.

    Speaking of overrated, don't forget Cornell. LOL!!!!

    One man gathers what another man spills.............

    Rock on,

    Doc
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  • January 24, 2022 - 3:52am
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    The classics

    Would it be fair to say that a classic show is one where they play a typical set list for the year, but to an exceptional standard?
    Some shows seem to have attained "classic" status over the years. Shows that have been written about by acclaimed Deadheads, and which somehow seem more than the sum of their parts. All the obvious ones- 2/14/68, the Fillmore West shows from Spring 1969, Fillmore East February 1970, Binghampton 5/2/70 etc etc. On up to Winterland New Years Eve 1978, which plays like a grande finale to the 70's - 12 months early. Obviously a subjective view !

    Egypt 1978 seem to me to be classic shows on account of their circumstances more than the bands actual playing. I do think the Veneta Fairgrounds show from August 1972 is exceptional...but I sometimes wonder if that has been accorded legendary status, to some extent, on account on its circumstances. There are pages and pages about it in the Deadheads Taping Compendium. Is it really so much better than lesser known shows from Fall 1972?

  • January 23, 2022 - 6:11am
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    January 1970

    Never enough 1970. I'm in. Been a while since I have listened to this one also. I'm expanding this to include 1/24 we we get an always welcome Mason's Children and Dancing in the Streets

    Edit: We might have done this recently.. which is fine with me

  • January 23, 2022 - 5:06am
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    Classics never make a comeback........

    Fellow rockers!!

    I forgot to put this out there...............

    What is a classic show? Can it be defined? Is it based on facts, or feeling? I know what "my classics" are, what are yours? If there are too many, does the idea get diluted?

    I'm interested in people's thoughts, in a conceptual sort of way............

    Doc
    Periodically, I return to the classics for inspiration and refreshment.......

  • January 23, 2022 - 4:48am
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    The purpose of life is a life of purpose…….

    Hey, rockers!!!

    Pick of the day: Honolulu, Hawaii, January 23, 1970

    Officially released as a Dave’s Pick in August 2016, here we have an interesting look at the band just prior to the classic Fillmore West/East shows of February 1970, when they were still in the process of transitioning from the large jam format to a more song oriented approach.

    Which isn’t to say there aren’t big jams here, because there are. An Other One AND a Dark Star. Plus some new Workingman’s Dead material, cowboy songs, and greasy Pigpen material. Can’t go wrong with all that………..

    It seems that sometimes official releases get shelved, neglected, oft time forgotten. This one is worth revisiting, as is the “bonus material” from the following night (which includes another Black Peter, more Pigpen, and the rare Mason’s Children).

    Farewell, TC……

    As far as official releases go, we can’t always get what we want, but we get what we need……

    Enjoy!!!

    Doc
    Every man regards his own life as the New Year's Eve of time…..

  • January 23, 2022 - 4:43am
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    Well, any good comeback needs some true believers…….

    Hey, rockers!!!

    It seems I just can’t stay away. Perhaps I have too much free time on my hands. Maybe I’m just addicted to deadnet…………

    What unfolds now is a series of intermittent, occasional, never predictable but always reverent excursions into the underrated, underappreciated shows of the 1968-1972 era. Follow along as we explore the curvilinear sonic history of the early Grateful Dead. Officially released, as well as not so. No Classics, and no 71s. Gems and duds. The bitter with the sweet……

    Dust off the shelves---and the hard drives---as we revisit so many gems lost in the glare of official releases and Miller remasters…………

    This won’t be an every day thing, maybe three or four times a month, lol until I find something better to do!

    Let’s play!!

    Doc
    Making a comeback is one of the most difficult things to do with dignity……

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Yes, for sure Vguy!I

Holy shit, not that I forget about it, but, this one for me always deserves a very loud and focused listen.

I know there have become naysayers regarding this release, but man it is really good.

Be well folks.

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I have been keeping an eye out for them, but they are pricey! I would love to see an "All Music Edition" released - I would be all over that, but if I recall, there was mention at release of the original box that there would not be an AMR, nor would the individual shows be released for sale.

Thankfully, I have access to most (all?) of these shows from LMA, and I have a number of them DL'd that sound good.

Now, I think I hear Cornell calling...

Happy Friday, DeadLand

Peace

I’m going to save my listen of 5-8-77 until late afternoon/evening, when the beer starts flowing.

Oh yeah, Shakedown Stream. Don’t think I’ve ever seen the 7-2-89 video, so need to fit that into the schedule too.

But for now it’s coffee, and what to listen to....?

6-24-85 30 Trips it is.
One of only two official 85 releases.....
More 85 please Dave.
So many good ones from the summer, can’t pick just one, might need a Box.

I think I'll join you! I started Set I of Cornell, but only made it to "El Paso" before work interfered. I think I will put a pause on 5/8/77 and hop on that 30 Trips 85 show with you! Looks like a killer 2nd set, and there is a nice looking Miller SBD on Archive.

Of course, things at Cornell will resume once I can sit down for a nice focused (read drink in hand) listen :)

Shadowboxing the apocalypse...

Peace

and the occasional story. Nice.

I will try to fit in 5/8 today.. I wanted to take advantage of downtime coinciding with Morel Mushroom season this year too. Perhaps I will load up a device and head out / try to undo my so/so luck at finding these tasty critters.

Big fan of Summer (and fall) '85. Yes.. the tapes can sound just a tad thin, but at least for the most part Healy was not pumping a bunch of audience noise into the boards. I am biased.. but I could really did a twofer 6/30 and 7/1/85. And that marked the end of the GD at Merriweather Post Pavilion. There were tents tucked away in just about every semi-secluded spot in town. What a scene (cool for the most part) but a scene that was sure to clash with suburban life and the city council.

I only just started because I first went out to retrieve the trash can and recycle bin, which then meant I also had to let my dog walk around the street sniffing stuff and peeing on other people’s mailboxes.

Yes, I want to be in the right frame of mind for Cornell.

Good luck shroom hunting Jim. Wonder if I could train my dog to sniff out morels? He would probably just eat them.

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Listened to Cornell Set 1, didn’t have that back in the day, it’s good, nothing mind blowing (in my current state of mind) but good.

I’ll save set 2 for later and hop on the 6/24/85 Riverbend train.

Definitely a favorite tape growing up. Love me some Cryptical, was just getting into the Dead in ’85 and was stoked to get Cryptical ’85 on tape. Would play this show and the next night 6/25 from Blossom with Day Tripper all the time! Heavy Rotation, takes me back…

Went to Riverbend the next year but alas, no Cryptical.

Hot Dog, gonna jam some epic Dead followed by Shakedown Stream with Pre-Show Bobby Weir & Playing In The Band show opener.

Happy Friday!

Be well

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Now palate cleansing with CCR 7-4-71, Closing of Fillmore West, KSAN FM, apparently pre-FM.

Then I’m hitting Cornell Set 1, then going outside to cover my plants from freezing tonight, then Cornell Set 2, then Shakedown Stream.
I like it when good plans come together.

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6 to 10 inches of snow that night back on 5/8/77 and it is suppose to snow there tonight!!! Thanks for remembering and celebrating with us nature!!!

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Vault 3, enjoyed more than I thought. Listening in the background whilst working, so might check back in the tonight with fresh beer to be delivered today, on the big boy system. and what’s that you say?....Summer 85....don’t have to twist this arm! That’ll be this afternoons working fluid...nice mix, some killer spring 90, then some killer 71, then some killer 85! Yeah baby!
I’ll prolly have to skip the Cornell which I don’t mind because I want to try and check out 7/2/89. Haven’t seen that one yet and would be some Good Friday prime time enjoyment!
I can just access that via YouTube no? Anyone know what time that starts without looking it up? Thanks

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Thanks!
Did this start yet? There was a clock countdown to 6:30 est but nothings happening...guessing this is just open time, kind of like FTW? ....or am I just geezing out here?
I’ve never checked this out yet, does the pre-game start at 8 or the actual show?

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Yep.. they just gave out the secret code.

Edit: Geeze.. I suspect you missed the new secret handshake too.

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I'm actually looking forward to this. It's one of the few from this era I am not super familiar with.. plus, it's got a PITB Opener and Serendipitously.. a reportedly good To Lay Me Down.

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It on the GD YouTube channel.

Pre-show is live, with Bob as special guest.
Show at 8:30e/5:30p

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....seemed like the right thing to do.
Nothing wrong with a Playin' opener! Ever!!
Just learned that Spotify teamed up with the GOGD and Dead & Co and will match every Covid donation $ for $, up to a million $'s. That's cool.

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Hi!

I won't go through this show, it needs no commentary.

I will add this, my older sister who left for college in 1985, left behind two tapes in our Mom's blue Civic hatchback, Shakedown Street and 12/31/83. I grabbed those cassettes and never looked back. Back in the 1980s I had no idea that the live recorded shows could ever sound this good. In May of 2017 all those years of bad cassette recordings seemed to maybe make sense.

I never had those second or third generation tapes.

Be well folks.

Best shows, way too many!

On to Dave's 34, just arrived today.

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I love those old stories of analog

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Holy Quacamole Batman! How did I never hear/see this one before?
It’s a virtual Jerry fest and interesting set list in general. Only quibble I can think of was after He’s Gone, why the Hell did Bob bail on what first sounded like Smokestack, then Jerry mosdef was playing Spoonful? You could see the whole band waiting on Bob and then things seem to fizzle, so Jerry breaks out Eyes, but you could tell something was up? Maybe Bobs Barrett’s were too tight, lol. Yeah, what was up with that? Can’t believe the band, no, the crew let him get away with that weirdness? Started watching 7/4 right after and that shit was gone...
Speaking of 7/4, as good as 7/2 was, you could tell immediately that 7/4 was gonna give it a run for its money if not top it, and imho 7/4 does best it. Funny I don’t recall much from this show. Member it was definetly a great show, but didn’t think I’d be going on about it 31 years later. Hearing shows many years later, especially ones for the first time, and comparing with my memories, increasingly blows my mind. Some I thought were meh turn out to be good, and some I thought were fantastic, turn out to be ok etc...so much fun!
Sorry, a little off topic but really enjoyed this show last night. Oh, and why the hell isnt this released? Hopefully just saving it? It’s already been produced enough to distribute to theaters for MUATM, so why not put it out?
Also, why is Dave so hot on summer, but not fall 89? Summer was awesome, but fall was even better, and of course spring 90 was the peak.

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7/2/89 = Fun Shakedown Stream!

When it became the pick for Meet-Up At The Movies in 2016 this show began to peak my interest, but I missed it in the theaters. Prior to that the show was off my radar, as no SBD circulated. But with the PITB > Crazy Fingers Set 1 & FOTD Set 2 openers, I put it on my list of too get, and eventually Miller hooked it up in May 2017.

I agree an official release seems doable... maybe a freebie download of the video mix for all us obsessed and oh so loyal fans?!?

After listening to Bob & Dave talk about July '89 again last night, it got me curious. I can see with Bobby requesting July '89 specifically, that alone would totally place those shows on Dave's radar.. and we've reaped some of the benefits:
7/02/89 - MUATM 2016 & Shakedown Stream Last Night
7/04/89 - Truckin' Up To Buffalo 2005
7/07/89 - Crimson White & Indigo 2010
7/09/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/10/89 - Giants Stadium Box 2019
7/12/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/13/89 - RFK Stadium Box 2017
7/15/89 - Truckin' released on The Music Never Stopped Movie Soundtrack 2011
7/17/89 - Downhill from Here 1997 (majority)
7/18/89 - MUATM 2012
7/19/89 - MUATM 2015 & Downhill from Here 1997 (3 songs)

I decided today I'd listen to 7/15/89 and check it out a bit more.. It's pretty fun, not sure it'll get the release nod anytime soon.. but maybe we'll get a video of it. Nice Bird Song, and Truckin' is worth the ride.

Well how's the snow you east coasters? We're supposed to hit 85 today in Portland.. seems a bit early for that.

Be Well Friends!

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Berry interesting...didn’t know (more likely forgot) about 7/18&19 being MUATM/released? Again, if they already incurred the production costs to make these some what releasable, why not release em? I know they haven’t done well on the video stuff which I believe is why they mostly stopped, but if you already have usable product, why not just do a pre-order where you know just how many units to run?

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Based on your response, I say let's go for it. Cool Dave Lemieux?

Like most things, I imagine money is the issue. Quantity = Price breaks on production costs / if Quantity doesn't sell.. yada yada. These kind folk here at Dead.net been testing those waters for some time now, the formula seems pretty set lately. DVD is dead, heads tend to want to have physical copies so they can play, rip, look at, whatever... not sure what the next model is in that regard.

But for the record, I can make DVDs, CDs and artwork, so if you all over here at Dead.net need any help, just lmk and I'd be happy to assist.

That all being said, I've moved over to 7/18/89 Alpine night two, and this Set 1 is well worth a revisit for any and all needing a musical suggestion.

Alpine '89 might make a good box release DVD & CD, all 3 nights in their entirety. Might be too well known due to Downhill from Here & MUATM..

But maybe we'll get 7/18 & 7/19 Shakedown Streams.. I'm calling it, we'll either get one or both.

Bets?

If it happens I want a burrito...

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....if not, may i recommend 2.11.89 Great Western Forum in the City Of Angels?
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1989/02/11?source=102940
If nothing else, check out the second set. I attended this one, and the second set was one of the best I can recall (which is saying a lot if you get my meaning). Airto Moreira, Flora Purim and Diana Moreira sat in during drumz and Eyes (out of Space mind you). I nice I will Take You home into drumz as well. I was pretty pie-eyed on acid and ecstasy at this one and drumz took me out of the roof of the arena and back again. Messed me up so much i sat for the rest of the show, getting all introspective and such. Felt tinges of a bad trip coming on. Thought the band sounded bad, etc. Only stood up for Black Peter, then proceeded to sit for the rest. Yelled that Box Of Rain was a shitty encore. My buddies sensed things were amiss, and proceeded to try and cheer me up at the hotel room afterwards. I was a mess. I definitely had too much too fast. No hallucinogens for me the next night, or for awhile after to be honest.
When I listened to a tape of it later, I realized they sounded great and it was all in my head. Don't mix drugs kids.

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GOGD, good point, saturation etc, but you have to think SOMEDAY? Alpine 89 will get the full treatment as it seems like that run gets as much lip service here as any of the top “not if, but when” runs that folks continually mention here.
Or maybe I’m just biased?....

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VGUY: I don't think there was a pick today, peeps were still trying to catch up on Cornell, Riverbend '85 & Shakedown Stream .. so much Dead so little time.

I jumped on the July '89 train after Shakedown Stream got me thinking. On Set 2 of 7/18/89 if you wanna give a listen. Decent show for sure, Set 1 seemed nice and strong, mid set 2 as we speack. Me and OROBOROUS were talking about the likely hood of Alpine '89 getting released someday...

OROBOROUS You are correct sir, those shows sure have a lot of love supporting them and July '89 seems to be on both Dave & Bob's radars... so I guess we'll see. For the quick fix, I think our best bet is the upcoming Shakedown Streams, I'm thinking we might see 7/18 or 7/19 possibly both. FWIW this 7/18 Miller SBD is dope.

I'd love to know more about what sells and what hasn't worked. For instance this year, I had good copies of the Giants Box set shows, but since it was multi-track & a DVD plus cool liner notes, they got me and I was in. Same with June '76. And Jai-Lai '74, again I've had good boards of those forever it seems, but getting the official release, I was in... not to mention already had the sub. So.. yeah, from what I can tell... if they build it, we will come.

VGUY - Tripping too hard.. been there. I'll make note of 2/11/89 and try and see what you was missing...

Time for some delayed 4:20 as Eyes heads into drums. 7/18/89 is nice especially as I can picture wonderful ole Alpine Valley and all those happy people boogieing down.

China Doll out of Space after 4:20, Do it!

Nice Mr. Fantasy too so far.. wide open Alpine feel, or maybe It’s cause the sun is shining & the breeze is blowing at same time.. or maybe it’s both..

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It’s been awhile but 7/18/89 has some good jams!

The Set 2 Eyes> D> S> China Doll> Fantasy> Jude> Throwing> SSDD, Quinn just now sounded sublime.

Almost identical song order as 7/2/89 but different pace, tempo, feel makes it completely different. And sounded esp good right now.

Dug it, now I really hope they stream this show!

Have a good one everybody it’s OMSN!

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I hope all are well on this Sunday, and I hope every mom is happy, wherever she may be :)

Here is a little listening for us on this great day - Kid tested, mother approved!

Set II of 5/10/80 - maybe one of the greatest pre-drums second sets of all time...

https://archive.org/details/gd1980-05-10.set2.sbd.miller.91938.sbeok.fl…

Set II - 5/10/80 Hartford

China Cat>
Rider
Stranger>
Comes a Time>
Estimated >
He's Gone >
UJB >
Drums >
Space >
NFA >
Sugar

E: Alabama >
OMSN

Peace

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Yeah, it is great! The band is hot, and I love the whole thing, but check out the jam from He's Gone to UJB... super cool.

I hope you and yours are well!

Peace

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Looks like we need a pick for today and I saw Bob T mention 5/11/77 at the St. Paul Civic Center. Sounds like a winner to me.

Week 9 in quarantine for us here in MN.

Be well folks.

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May of 77... no brainer.

I have to say, I'm a bit surprised that we haven't done more 77... may I suggest 12/29/77, aka Dick's Pick #10 for Tuesday?

Peace

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I am in on that for tomorrow, thanks Otis.

Yes, 5/11/77 is a stellar Spring 77 show. The Jack Straw and Peggy O kind of melt your face. Love that Sugaree to end the first set. Scarlet Fire, and what a finish! Throw in a Brokedown Palace encore. I love this show.

Fry, Bueller?

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....if I recall, that's the show where Jerry forgot an entire verse of China Doll. Could be wrong. The down side of so many awesome releases is that it gets hard to recall correctly at times. I think I'm right though.
Busy day at work. Had time to check out 5.11.86 though. Miracle -> US Blues to open the second set caught my ear. Cool banter by the Boyz that gig. Passed 5.11.77 by today. Catch it later.

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Weir was dropping China Cat teases after the hiatus all over until the breakout including 10-3-76 and Winterland 6-8-77 during NFA (just rediscovered that one the other day). You could tell he really wanted to bring that one back.

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Yep, sounds good! Dang, I've had this ever since it first came out (98) but I've barely even listened to it. I guess back then I was obsessed with pre-hiatus and this one fell through the cracks. Better late than never!
I just listened to the Bonus material from 12/30- wow! The Estimated jam really catches fire, then fine Jerry vocals on Eyes, then a sweet quiet jam into St. Stephen. The crowd goes wild at the first St. Stephen notes. Powerfully jammed Stephen and Sugar Mag to close- whew- a great sequence. Latvala never let us down!

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Had the meat of the second set on tape courtesy of David Gans and the Grateful Dead Hour since circa 1990?? then in something like 91 or 92 I hit dreaded record on my portable player and handn't removed the tabs on the cassette. So I had this two second break in the tape where you could audibly hear the word (think slow motion) F uh uh chk chk chk, then back to the music. It wasn't until the Dicks Picks came out that I had it complete again. Whew,..

Always a personal favorite. The transition in China Rider is both sublime and unique. Super smooth and fluid.

Anyway.. my little personal story about that release. How many people out there used to record The Grateful Dead Hour back in the day because.. well because it was almost always better than the tapes I had of those shows at the time. It was almost like an early version of the Internet Archive for lots of us. David Gans for Pres? ha..

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I wrote a story about being at that show that is in the comments section on 12/29/77. I’m lucky to listen to every other suggested show in this forum. Will definitely listen today even if a day late. It’s on my IPod so I can listen at home. Shows not on my IPod I tune in by iPhone off of a cell tower 35 miles away that I have to get up to a ridge top a couple miles from home. The 50th anniversary of my second Dead show is Friday . Was at the early show. If no one has picked for Friday , 5/15/70 would be great. NRPS was there the same night.

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Good idea Strider.

For what it's worth, I took the time to compile the best available audio from the New Riders sets and combined it with the Fully Normanized version, arranging the songs in the correct order, etc. I forget if there was (were) missing song(s) on the released version, I think yes.. if so they are included. It's as good a quality, full show experience as you are going to get 50 years into the future. It's monster long, meaning big.. and of course full of big fun.

I think Ziffle who posts here sporadically was there also and spoke quite highly of the whole experience. These are the type of shows I am most envious of and if I could set the dials to the wayback machine, one by one I would hit them all.

Anyway regarding the full show experience, you know where to reach me.. 7 CDs worth of music in one night.. I believe the sun was already up when the noise inside finally subsided and the people began pouring out into the sidewalks of New York having the difficult task of making sense of what in the hell just happened and what became of their minds (sounds of jaws scraping up sidewalk debris as they walked to the subway to go home).

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Wolf makes a reappearance at the New Years run. Jerry played a Travis Bean earlier in the year. (77) Only saw him play the Bean once , one time in Eugene, Oregon March 1976 with his own band.
May 15, 1970 was far different from my first GD show in the dead of winter. Springtime in NYC is a rush of a different feeling . NRPS plus acoustic Dead, throw in Workingmans Dead release and one small detail , I was fucking 16 years old! Main difference at my first Dead show, I pretty much stayed in my seat, second Dead show besides acoustic set I was up dancing at my seat during NRPS set and the electric set as much as possible.
A shame more of the acoustic sets of the 70 odd mas o menos from 1970 , 1980 were not taped or were lost.
When I think of the Fillmore East and later Winterland I hold golden memories in my heart.

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5/15/70/ is on my top 5 list of Dead shows that I would attend if I could go back in time. Along with, 5/2/70, 2/27/69, , 3/1/69, and 6/11/69.

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Gonna try and get everything just exactly perfect here...

Haven’t heard this one in awhile.. and so far so good, Jack Straw is def a stand out in this here first set. Nice Pick!

JIMINMD - The Good Ole GD Hour.. was definitely my first reliable source for good quality tapes. I still have a bunch of the tapes I made in the garage… memories. David Gans is yet another colorful and beloved character in the rogues gallery of GD collecting. A true pioneer that one..

STRIDER 88 - Wow.. What a time to be 23!! Great story, I can kinda picture it, it must’ve been great to be in the balcony at Winterland and just be able to scope out the scene and see friends. Fillmore East & Winterland the two most Hallowed of halls… keep the stories coming!

OTIS - Enjoyed 5/10/80 Set 2, smoking China > Rider!

BILLY THE KID - 6/11/69 what if it’s no good and you time traveled back to catch a bunk show? Unless of course you know something we don’t.. like where the tapes are?

Looking forward to Friday’s trip back to 5/15/70! That’s gonna be good, it’s been awhile.

You all ever think this is all a dream we dreamed?

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I might drop back in for a bit if you're doing that one. I am always led to this show after listening to 5/2/70-Sam Cutler announces it as a forthcoming New York show as the show on 2nd closes down.

In fact, I listened to 5/14/70 the other day in preparation. Part of this show is on the second half of the bonus disc which accompanies 5/15/70. Great snaky New Speedway Boogie on here.

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There was no soundboard in middle of floor in Winterland. There was a mirror ball directly above . 12/29,30 have a dynamic sound of flight or winged feet or winged heads. Mythic in proportion. Unique sound on those nights.