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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • Oroborous
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    You had to be there

    Really,
    Unless you were there, you’ll never fully grasp this show. (Toga 84)
    One of our best GD experiences, right up there with Oxford 88!
    In a word: ELECTRIC! The weather, crowd, vibe, cannot KNOW this show without all that.
    The Dancin in the Streets is pretty much the theme song for this show.
    Started the day before and didn’t stop until the next day.
    (I’ll share some more stories separately)
    Yeah the vocals are ragged on Dancin, but have been on every show opener on this tour so far. Dire Wolf has a little cocaine gargle but it’s not that bad?
    Minglewood is off the fuggin charts! Seriously, (besides Bobs slide solo going on to long and the unfortunate mandatory screaming badger being tortured noise) it’s a monster! And from there things just keeps on growing.
    Wonderland was good, but polite, which makes sense considering national radio coverage in two countries along with very pricey tickets (Seva Benefit).
    City Isle started out ruff, but creeped to where I felt the Drumz onward was good, but,…, but Toga…Insane!
    I’m sure the environment/vibe/energy or what not was so intense the band would have felt it, probably before arrival lol
    And they sure seemed to rise to it: going hard for it and having just as much fun as us, well, almost lol. Not only could you feel it, you could see they were way into it!
    I think the only critique I can make about this show was, too much energy. They were so jacked up on the vibe (on top of everything else; ) that at times I think over enthusiasm led to not always being just exactly perfect. Hard to describe, they generally played well, just not so perfect, if that makes sense?
    I’m onto Blossom currently, the third show we hit that summer, and so far it’s ok, but..kinda laid back after the opening volley of tour ragers.
    Oh, yeah, Merriweather I rehashed and they’re similar: start out ragged, but look out, the rocket lifts off and burns baby burns. Again, hot but excess sometimes perhaps leads to occasional less than perfect moments, but good shows if not RJ. Summer tour 84,
    Onward!

    Can’t imagine those shows on a bike. The rain was what helped make both those shows so fun, but in 85 by the next day we’d had enough, (even before Hershey lol) and we weren’t on bikes! But hey, the adversity usually helped make good shows great!

    Edit: added my story to the 6/24/84 show page if anyones interested.

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    Doc you were there? I normally don't spend time feeling envious, but this is one of those shows where I sure wish I coulda been there. After all these years it is still a show I'll listen to any day, any time. There's something for everyone: Weir was absolutely on, Healy with his bag of tricks, Phil on mad bombing runs (and that Tom Thumb's!!), drummers on point all night long, Brent so colorful and out in front (and just a demon on the organ), and I run out of superlatives to talk about Garcia's performance this day.

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    Hey Jim, no question, play Airto Moreira and the Gods of Jazz recordings Killer Bees, or Revenge of the Killer Bees. Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock, Stanley Clarke early fusion, like Weather Report but different, very interesting, under the radar stuff. For treatment, instead of toxic spray, Dr. Bronners peppermint castille in cool water, soak that nest from safe distance with a hose end sprayer on a cold morning . Bees, wasps etc hate peppermint and soap being surfactant, gets under their exoskeletal shells. Once the nest is soaked a time or two, they will abandon.

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    I have jumped off a balcony from the second floor.......

    Hey hey hey................

    As a certain Mr Pen used to say, "Baby I ain't no balcony hanger!"..........

    The 1985 SPAC show was the only Dead show I ever attended solo. Beautiful day, rode out on the bike, camped out on the lawn, had some green leafy material, just enjoyed the heck out of the whole experience!

    Early the next morning set out for Hershey. Got soaked on the way, but hey, when you're on a bike and you get soaked, you can't get any wetter. My best friend and my brother---both bikers---were supposed to ride down and met me there and we'd ride back together. LOL they chickened out. It rained, but we kept the blow dry. Another enjoyable and noteworthy experience..........

    Rode back solo the next day, those were the days!

    Rock on!!!

    Doc, paperwork day!
    Youth has no age.....

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    So why not.. SPAC 84 virgin listen.

    They played the beginning of the City Island show the day before on Today in GD History. I think I have one cursory listen a couple decades ago when I discovered Archive.Org. Jerry's voice is a big haggard on a few songs (thinking Peggy-O for example), which seems to continue on through to SPAC.

    SPAC is one of my many GD regrets. I never made it there and could have. I am particularly fond of the 85 show. Now which one of you was dangling from the balcony that night? never mind.. you'll never admit it, but you know who you are.

    Got a medium size hornets nest in my attic that needs to go before while summer is young. I think my attic fan is shot too. The exterminator is charging too damned much so I am going to brave this adventure tonight. Wish me luck (balanced with how much could it really hurt anway).

    What should I play for the dancing bees 🐝 to give me an edge? A good meltdown space, a rockin' Fire in the attic or Dancing in the Hive?

    Edit: Jerry's a little rough or Dire Wolf but recovered nicely by the time the Candayman came around. Similar to the rough start the night before but improving, apparently, as the night progressed.

    Edit 2: Finished this while cleaning the house. They did pick up steam as the night progressed. Vocals notwithstanding, a high energy Bertha helped pull things together, the highlight for me being the PITB>China Doll. The Other One was typical for the era but good, a soulful Wharf Rat reigned them back to the finish line with a well paired double encore that would a smile on anyone's face as they walked through gates realizing they have no idea where they left their car (or bike).. but who really cares anyway.

    Nice tales from the Road Doc. Creates a little visual and context for the listen.

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    Morning rockers!!!

    Can it really be 40 years ago that we stood in the rain at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center and enjoyed a fun Dead show, rain and all?!! Got drenched on the motorcycle ride down from Canada, but we kept our doses dry. Those were the days!!!

    Decent soundboards are out there, worth a listen.......

    We should not look back unless it is to derive useful lessons from past errors, and for the purpose of profiting by dearly bought experience.....

    Rock on,

    Doc
    One must always maintain one's connection to the past and yet ceaselessly pull away from it.......

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    ...yeah, 2 hour drive to harrisburg listening to the newly taped FM broadcast of WONDERLAND of CANADA show and ready for a great afternoon in the sun, several friends (3 car loads) would plan to meet, one car "alabama toot-away", one car packed with coolers of cold beer, another car "up in smoke". walking through the city enroute to the bridge to take us into the middle of the river, hey look over there at that guy passed out under the tree, damn he sure does look like our friend Chumpweed...keep walking, he would never miss Garcia by over indulging in the early afternoon. Next day, everyone safely back in town and meeting up at a friend's apartment to rap about the show...hey Chumpweed, what did you think of the show? ah, man I passed out under a tree and missed the whole show.....

    I remember most the opener: toot-away, a fun tmns to end 1st set, eyes, black peter, gdtrfb; and yeah it was a speedy GOGD event, and most unique venue to have seen the band.

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    They might have been talking about worm farming on the last GD Bulletin

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    Great story Oro!

    And Jim and DMC, bada-bing!
    Very funny stuff you guys.
    Keep bringing the good stuff now that the HN police are easing up some.
    Cheers

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    Hey little sister, who’s your only worm…

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Jerry's vocals here are so smooth and pure. Sometimes, I love hoarse and gravelly vocals on this tune ( I love the Augusta 10/12/84). But this one is sweet.
It's amazing how well Keith's electric keys fit in here. He was truly one of a kind.

That was awesome!

I'll save you the blow by blow as you'll all be feeling them... and they feel good.

RE: ORO - Ha ha, if the outing by Jimbo you speak of is Geeking Out majorly over the Grateful Dead.. then I'm afraid we've all been outed.
If it's something else to do with being a bot or a spy, then I'll let you, BOLO24 & JIMINMD keep rolling with that..
But yes, Here's to GD Geeks!

RE: ALL - Thanks for all your input yesterday on how you roll this fabulous music, I was too lazy & long winded to respond to each direct, but seriously good input and a lot to take away. ICECRMCNKD that's some next level backing up, you're hardcore, Impressive! ORO: Networking info, wow just wow! Like JIMINMD read it all, understood some. Glad to know you all. I'm not going to let this info go to waste and will continue to refer to it as needed.

This all put it into perspective... I'm NOT the only one who spends untold amounts of hours pouring over this stuff, collecting and perfecting and loving it!

Glad to be one of the many!
Keep on Rockin'

PS - JIMINMD - I think you're right about that fatty / bowl :) Hampton '87 might need some love one of these days!

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I really enjoyed listening to this. A consistently great show, from the first track, through to the last. I like the way the opening trio of songs are the same ones that open the Blues For Allah album, and the last track is the one that closes it. It feels like the whole show is encased withn the vibe of that album.
In many ways, its quite a strange show-unique. The fact that it is consistently great means that their are less peaks and troughs than in a lot of shows. It sounds almost choreographed - no rough edges at all. As Gollum says, the singing is excellent. I would single out Crazy Fingers in that respect - beautifully sung and played.

I listened to my vinyl copy of this, which sounds great. I wonder if a single show from the 76 box will come out on vinyl ? I am not getting the box, but I would go for that.

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What a great show from start to finish, heck I'd put it in my top 15 Dead shows of all time, it really swings.

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Just listen to one anniversary song if you have time. Playing in the Band 5/21/74 HEC Edmundson Pavilion... part of the Pacific Northwest Box... Longest Playing ever... bob t

ha.. I just did.

Had a nice 47 min soak in the tub to wash away the stress (etc.) from grocery shopping. Lossless, wireless Sennheiser's in tow.

Tomorrow might just be Portland '74.. one of my favorite China Riders.

I guess I need to be more faithful to the show of the day. Working on that.

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..and another BobT Shoutout.. is that PITB from the bonus disc from Jai Alai Fronton. I listened to that one soaking last night.

Both are holy shit good. It's no wonder I have a hard time conforming to the show a day play.

I might just prefer Jai Alai, so jazzy.. not a wasted note anywhere and not a note or chord too much. Notes, scales, chords and weirdness were performed exactly as needed.

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I was always a big fan of Milkin the Turkey. The first release! So good. Definitely short, but stellar. Is it the first analog digital digital CD?

And how about a Blues for Allah encore! When I was a young pup I always had an infinity for the Blues for Allah release. It was so different. I even had the Blues for Allah tapestry. I think it finally met its demise in the late 2000s. Should have held on to it.

Thanks again Oroborous! I have a lot of work to do.
What's on tap for tomorrow?

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Sounds like a good one, to kick off this weekend, the "unofficial start of summer".

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I'm in. Starting... Now.

10/19/73 came up on the Dave's Picks page.. I don't think we covered that one yet.. did we? If not.. we might slide that into the queue sometime over the next few weeks.

Great energy on this thread since day 1.. thanks to all of you and Bolo too.

First Official Recordings from the Lost Betty Boards seems fitting with Betty cued up for the AMA tonight.

Wish Betty would do a Shakedown Stream Pre-Show... that would be cool.

Good Pick Bob T!

I was on the fence of suggesting either:
9/27/72 DiP V11
10/19/73 DiP V19
But kept quite to see who else might have some input.

So I second a review of 10/19/73 soon!

And 9/27/72 is looking mighty good too.

Happy Friday Everyone!

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....today's choice is mucho excellente. I'm in. At work today, so trying to locate a good sounding version. Looks like there's only two out there. Both Wagner recordings.
edit. recordings sound ok, but I was spoiled by the 78 Box. Will listen at home tonight after Betty's AMA on Reddit.

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... what a gem! Agree with VGuy (and many others here,) first listen to this show was a hell of a nice surprise! Still my favorite of this beauty of a little box, which also happens to be my favorite 78 release - so I suppose that makes this show my favorite 78 so far.

Two discs of pure GD gold - all killer, no filler!

Peace

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Spent a lot of time there....suppose I'm obligated.

Loudest stadium in the country! I'm in!!!

KCJ

Edit: Loudest as long as there are people in it ☹️

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....are you still at your same address? Gotta mail you some local brews and a keychain/bottle opener to make good on our SuperBowl bet.

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Saw a couple shows there a few years ago, most notably Leftover Salmon. Fun show to catch if they show up near your town, btw. Anyway, H>S>F from One From The Vault was played during the set breaks, much to the delight of the assembled crowd.

On to Arrowhead and some good ol' KC BBQ courtesy of Willie and friends.

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Looking back now, remember all we had of the first 3 shows, Kansas City, Omaha, and St. Paul were audience tapes, never on my radar at all. 7/7 and 7/8 were widely circulated in tape trading days... Jimin MD we are on the same wave length with last nights 5/21/74 Playing, and when I was climbing the walls this morning I almost said 10/19/73, (I love the wheat field and sky on the cover!!!!) If you get a second, I never realized the Willie Nelson picnics had such a long history before and after!!! Doing yard work right now, on Big River, hope my neighbors enjoy this concert, because I am.... bob t

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About ready to have some myself...burnt end platter...yum! Same address Vguy, I’m not going anywhere soon! looking forward to those beers!!!

Is anyone familiar with Willy’s son Lukas? I just picked up his new vinyl, Turn Off the News And Build A Garden....good stuff!

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KCJanes has moved to Maryland. I am sending his new address via PM.

Edit: Heads-up.

In looking through the previous posts, it's obvious his previous account here was hacked, probably by a grifter, beer guzzling ex-neighbor who collects plundered bottle openers. Be careful with your passwords folks, this stuff happens all the time.

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...perhaps my love for this show was bolstered by the uniqueness of hearing it for the first time, the overall great SQ, and the excitement of it being the first show in a shiny new box.

I have listened to this show a number of times in the past, but this time through, I am seeming to notice a lot more of the "warts" than I have previously. "Bertha" starts strong, and the playing on "Good Lovin'" is hot, especially the end - but the singing is all over the place on that one. Not terrible, but just off. Donna has a number of miscues throughout the show, off-key clams, which I thought were pretty rare after hiatus. "Tenn Jed" is good, and "Jack Straw" is powerful, despite a few minor miscues. "FOTD" sounds flat and out of tune to these ears - "MAMU>Big River" is good and peppy.

I think I really noticed the "off" quality of this show during "Terrapin"... Jerry seems kind of lost and there doesn't seem to be a lot of "inspiration" to move him or the band brightly through this one...

"Playin" through the end is great though, and this is what I remember the most about this show. What are they saying right after "Drums"? Something about how "they set it up backwards..." then the crazy laughing/hooting/creepyness that goes on throughout the "Space" is awesome - must have been weird for a lot of folks there to see some good ol' boy country. "Estimated" is a high point, and "The Other One" is 78 power... "Wharf Rat" and the double shot of Berry to close it all out is hot, and in the end, they managed to pull out a good set, in spite of themselves.

I really do think that 78 is the most hit-or-miss year of the 70s.

An Ok, but somewhat mediocre disc one, HOT disc two (save that "Terrapin.") I still love a lot of what is here, but I think I am going to have to reevaluate this show as both my favorite release from 78, and even as my favorite of this box. Official score: 7 / 10. Kind of sad, but I suppose people change...

It was a fun listen anyway! What's on tap for tomorrow?

Peace

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A great box set . Arrowhead Stadium is a fun one long set. Any time the Dead could share the stage with Willie Nelson would have been Americana at its best before Americana became a hip term for a broad music genera .

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I am really enjoying this first set! On "Deal" now, and overall, I think this is a better disc than Arrowhead disc 1. I'd forgotten about the hilarious mess-up in "Mexicali" and how damn awesome this "Peggy-O" is!

I just may work my way through this whole box over the weekend, along with the Show of the Day (of course :)

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Lukas' band is Promise of the Real, they are fantastic. They played with Neil Young for a tour or two, missed that one, but have seen them live and they can really jam. All of their albums are good, but the first Lukas Nelson & Promise of the Real is the best one for sure. Catch them live next time you can.

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The thing I love most about this show is how it just SOUNDS like a hot sunny stadium show in Kansas City. I can imagine the KC BBQ, warm beer, and sweaty hippies packed liked sardines. Man, that all sounds good right now. I agree the show really starts to pay off in the Playin jam. This jam sounds louder and more aggressive than the sublime one from Dick's18 just a few months earlier, but vive la difference. Now I'm into the weird Space, hoping for a gentle "come down" by the end but who knows?....

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Welcome to the rock and roll barbecue. Can you imagine. The Dead as the opening act for Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson. Imagine if you were there for the country music and you saw these band playing Terrapin Station and then later the Other One? And I agree with Otis, this Terrapin is no 77 Terrapin, not smooth, but still a great show.

I still love listening to all these shows. They are all different.

Be well folks!

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Good stuff, good stuff.

You all wanna dig in to some 10/19/73 tomorrow?

VGUY72 - I see you over there asking Betty questions on Reddit... I hope she gets to it, seems like she's trying to answer them all. I decided to throw one in too, fingers x'd.

How cool is Betty Cantor-Jackson?

I'd say Way Cool!

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Ever since Fall out from The Phil Zone, i love this song... my emotions go crazy, happy.... sad..... you name it, especially at 1:20 in the morning over served!!!! Looking forward to Oklahoma City in the morning... Mind Left Body Jam is great!!! Good night all, be safe...bob t

....she didn't answer me. Yet. She answered some good questions. In Arrowhead Space currently. Seguing into Prophet. Nice.
Told ya I'd get caught up.....

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....Weir yells, "Easy now, easy". He followed that up the next show during the Mexicali stumble, "paying attention". Then they dare to follow up a raging Mama Tried w/ a Peggy-O?
I concur.

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*Complete Setlist- Primo!
*Disk #1
First set:
"Promised Land" (Chuck Berry) – 3:44
"Sugaree" (Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter) – 8:18
"Mexicali Blues" (Bob Weir, John Barlow) – 3:58
"Tennessee Jed" (Garcia, Hunter) – 8:00
"Looks like Rain" (Weir, Barlow) – 8:05
"Don't Ease Me In" (traditional, arranged by Grateful Dead) – 4:24
"Jack Straw" (Weir, Hunter) – 5:32
"They Love Each Other" (Garcia, Hunter) – 5:44
"El Paso" (Marty Robbins) – 4:51
"Row Jimmy" (Garcia, Hunter) – 9:23

*Disc two
"Playing in the Band" (Weir, Mickey Hart, Hunter) – 18:23
Second set:
"China Cat Sunflower" (Garcia, Hunter) – 9:11 >
"I Know You Rider" (traditional, arranged by Grateful Dead) – 6:18
"Me and My Uncle" (John Phillips) – 3:34
"Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:30
"Big River" (Johnny Cash) – 4:52

*Disc three
"Dark Star" (Garcia, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Ron "Pigpen" McKernan, Weir, Hunter) – 15:45 >
"Mind Left Body Jam" (Grateful Dead) – 10:41 >
"Morning Dew" (Bonnie Dobson, Tim Rose) – 13:55
"Sugar Magnolia" (Weir, Hunter) – 10:10
First encore:
"Eyes of the World" (Garcia, Hunter) – 14:31 >
"Stella Blue" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:57
Second encore:
"Johnny B. Goode" (Berry) – 4:08

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I will freely admit I only hunt and peck out bits and pieces of these picks of the day. It takes a real commitment to pound out a show every day. (commitment or committed?)

Also, unlike most, I don't know if I ever listened fully to my first show. My first show was 4/1/80 - Capitol Theatre. This is the show where they all came out behind different instruments at the start of the show.

Had it playing in the car yesterday, got to He's Gone. I floating along thinking this is a GREAT recording. It hit about 20 seconds of patch in the middle lyrics (audience) and I'm thinking it's one of the patches that everyone talked about. All through He's Gone I'm thinking I'm listening to a Dave's the sound was so good. Then I look at the dash and see the show date and remember I was listening to my first show.

I wish I knew more when I saw this show, but I was new to everything. The Capitol only held about 3k people.

So maybe try 4/1/80. Shakedown encore!

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Yes, nice call. I haven't appreciated this show as much as others in these forums and I'm sure it's just an oversight! 9/27/72 was also mentioned- that may be a keen idea. Surely that show is as great as the more celebrated 9/21/72? (Dick picked it a lot earlier!)
Spitballing:
*Winterland 6/8/77 Lemieux sez top 10 of 1977, 19 min. Eyes
*Cape Cod 10/27/79 Lemieux gives shoutout in Dave's 34 blurb
*Boise 9/2/83 unfairly maligned!
Just some ideas. We do have a whole Memorial Day weekend and there are no rules, right?

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Probably committed Dennis, but who would take us?? First show 4/1/1980. That is cool, one of my favorite Grateful Dead years, and not represented well at all with official releases. Did you make to any of the fall 1980 shows?

Holy shit Gollum, not one pick from you but three. All good ideas, but I will leave it up to the Committee. Always loved the Winterland 77 June shows.

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Listening to Dark Star 30 minute jam right now. Dicks Pick #11 is so good. Terrific concert and Great for Saturday morning.

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Let's go with Gollum's Cape Cod choice of 10/27/79.... Since we can't go to the Cape, and if you have an Orange or Yellow license plate our Rhode Island law enforcement is going to give you grief!! We can celebrate vicariously through this show!!! Lobsters, steamers, clams, corn, not included!!! bob t

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The Midwest leg of the fall tour of 73 looks super high energy. Was living in Kansas City that fall going to the Art Institute. Pre-internet , had nary a clue they were playing all around Kansas City within a few hours drive . I did see the them four times in the spring of 73.
One of my favorite Dicks Picks. Incredible Dark Star. Already sounding different from 1972 versions. All and all an amazing Grateful Dead concert from the heartland of America in 1973. Bet it wasn’t sold out either.

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We may have a quorum for the Cape cod?!! BobT - love the food/location carryover. We move from KC BBQ to a New England Clambake. Cape Cod sounds like a paradise.

I guess we don't have any foods to go with poor Oklahoma, but yeah, it really is the American heartland and the music is exquisite. I've spun the Playin' and Dark Star a couple of times today (so far).....