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    marye
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    Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!

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  • June 22, 2009 - 5:45am
    TigerLilly
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    DannyC. Reread your post from October, and the responses to it. Why'd you ask me in particular? Can you be more specific about your insight into how Deadheads really think?********************************** Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. Mark Twain
  • June 21, 2009 - 9:23pm
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    Hey wow.
    Hey wow. I've been meditating on my previous post to the message board last October. The result is, after I've been labeled as meanspirited and paranoid, probably called a few other things, this darkstar isnt putting anymore energy into shows around here and hasnt been. Who cares? Does it really matter? No, do you care? I dont care. Does anyone care. Tigerlily, do you wanna care about any of this? The replies I got were an insight as to how deadheads can really think,feel, act and can be ,generally, towards anyone they are talking with,It doesnt seem to matter who people are. Thats just a heads up.Why should I put any energy into this, when people are like that? The same as anywhere else.Which is what I wanted to say in the first place. I'm not supporting any of this. Who cares. Thats my peace.
  • December 22, 2008 - 9:16am
    marye
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    brilliant, Mr. P!
    a classic...
  • December 21, 2008 - 9:10pm
    Mr. Pid
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    Dead Horses?
    Post vote whining is easy to doBut the pols are elected, and chosen by you McCain and Obama, they dealt different hands The counting's all over, you know where it stands Dead horses, they just won't go away Dead, dead horses, just won't go away I see that some aren't pleased how it went Now they've decided they still need to vent No calm acceptance of the new status quo It might just be better to just let it go Dead horses, they just won't go away Dead, dead horses, just won't go away I know we all dreamed the best for our guy But only one wins. I'm sure you know why. The choice has been made. It's time to move on. Let's just be happy the last clowns are gone. Dead horses, they just won't go away Dead, dead horses, they'll quiet someday. Dead horses, they just won't go away Dead, dead horses, they'll quiet someday. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
  • December 21, 2008 - 8:25pm
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    Dead Horses
    Yay Oroboros-you did very well......but I'm glad that grdaed73 agrees w/ me....this forum has to die.....it's like trying to revive a Dead Horse....well, like Marye says above......I'll just skip over it & be on my merry way! xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl
  • December 21, 2008 - 1:46pm
    johnman
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    gosh, marye
    why do you insist on making sense?
  • December 21, 2008 - 1:02pm
    marye
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    freezing this topic
    frankly, I'm reluctant to freeze a topic people still want to talk in, particularly when they do so as well as Oroboros just did. I would say, rather, as it says in the topic header, that if you're not into this topic, just let it go by. Thanks!
  • December 21, 2008 - 12:58pm
    johnman
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    heehee
    bill clinton, attilla the hun, and st. christopher walk into a bar.........
  • December 21, 2008 - 8:20am
    pkpotter
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    Very wise words indeed
    A beautiful and eloquent post, Oroboros. Those ideals that you layed out are what makes our country, America, a great country and an inspiration to much of the world. I believe you are expressing the hope and dreams the founding fathers put in motion. America is a work in progress. And the foundation must be strong, as I believe it is, and we must build upon those ideals, and work together to shape this country in order to form a more perfect union. We must unite and realize we are one people, and reach out to each other to both teach and learn, and then we will all grow, and the country will grow. If you look at the ideals that Oroboros has talked about here, as he said, we are really all in agreement, so the foundation is there. So let's all work together to build America into a better place brick by brick. I am happy that we have a leader that has assembled a staff that is from all sides of the spectrum in order to form a more perfect union.
  • December 21, 2008 - 5:19am
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    Absolutely brilliant
    post, Oroboros! Fine piece indeed.********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!
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Hey Good ol GD-@ my granddaughter's (now 2 yrs old) baby shower, as "gifts" we were all given artwork by my grandson (he's 2 years older than her) & what did I GET???? the letter "F" in a glued on kid fashion piece of paper (still have it with pride)......OF course I immediately cracked up & started singing "GIVE ME AN F" to which my son, replied "mom, noone here is going to know what you're talking about" WHICH of course I educated the rest of the family about Country Joe McDonald, Vietnam chant, etc.......1 of the grandma's said something about the GD, SF & me & we all laughed...........Bet you're right on the Honest Abe also! We can all be proud Americans, no matter who wins the election, better here, than anywhere else, no matter how unhappy we are about our politics, regimes, etc....xoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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Gypsy, thats pretty funny I like that, pretty ironic. I am proud to be an American and love my country, where else can you have so much FUN. Though I do or have done alot of things I don't completely agree with, for people I can't stand in many far away lands. I do it for all of us. So that others can live free and enjoy singing F songs and growing hair and go to shows.Able to Speak out against the madness. I'm really not political though it does affect my life greatly right now our situation worldwide isn't going to change overnight. Have you really ever seen some kind of drastic change or bettering by who was president. Mostly bad things come to mind but seems to be the way. Maybe some Americans just don't know how good they have it. Even the poor and homeless have it better than some others in the world. Old men sing about their dreams, Women laugh and children scream, And the band keeps playing on
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A tweak on Merle Haggard's "Proud to be an Okie from Muskogee".........I agree Good ol GD-change is slow........Hopefully being homeless & poor here is better than overseas in the 3rd worlds, except with the possibilities of our Native American reservations-they are still the poorest in the land (except the ones that have gotten the casinos going on-they got it better) I'm thinking of the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota in particular is supposedly the lowest income in our nation.......xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl......YEH! GIVE ME AN "F"...........What's that spell????? xoxoxo
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just realized & read your thing on "Introducing Ourselves" that you're the paratrouper in the Army.....now I see what you meant on the above post......my hubby is a Vietnam Vet from the Navy..........xoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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I meant "I'm Proud to be a Gypsy Cowgirl" from San Francisco..........xoxox
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Here's some more for ya Gypsy "I don't how we're gonna stop the war if you can't sing any louder than that, let me hear it And it's 1-2-3-what are we fighting 4, don't ask me I don't give a damn next stop is land of sand, and it's 5-6-7 open up the Baghdad g8s, just hope we're ain't to late, 15 month's thank's to Bobby Gates, be the first one your block to get blown up by a bomb in a box. What do you think next career in music? Gotta be humorous helps with long tours. Really gotta remember that I might just have something. I have a friend back home who was Navy, a Seabee in Vietnam Wish I was a headlight, on a northbound train
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yes, Good ol GD-husband was in the SeaBees in Vietnam, division of the Navy, I'm told.......& please, remember, I grew up on these lyrics......but, thanks......"what are we fighting for?" the eternal question, I suppose.....since the beginning of timelike your change of lyrics...can apply to anywhere! "This land is your land, this land is my land From California, to the New York Island From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters This land was made for you and me" words & music by Woody Guthrie xxooxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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Gypsy. I know you know those lyrics I put them out there cause I thought you would appreciate them and hope it put a smile on your face. I gonna do a full version. Even printed off the guitar chords for it. Of course where I am no one has a clue who Country Joe is or even Garcia. Anyway I learned "This land" when I was in kindergarten. I wonder if it is still taught in schools today. My son goes to school in in Italy to Italian school so he can't answer the question. Your patriotism is inspirational, keep on truckin. Nothingleft to do but smile smile smile.
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John McCain's plane TO Pennsylvania WAS - shot down - by friendly (self) fire...pretty funny story - I recommend reading that Rolling Stone article. Funny (but very sad) stuff. To whomever it was that called Obama "Anti-Life": ...That's a complete and utter LIE. Do some fact-checking before you believe every handout from the RNC you get and post it on here (whoever it was that said it). Barack Obama is far from perfect. I wouldn't want to vote for someone who claimed to be perfect. He's got the best plan. Period. ~ Pappy "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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Check out the last three verses we aren't taught in school, below is the address. Strong stuff. Thank you Woody. Country Joe who was mentioned with the Fish yell in the above posts did a tribute record for Woody consisting of his songs. I think it was his first post CJ and the Fish record. http://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/This_Land.htm If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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i'll look into that pappy....thanx fer yer input.....did i leave my keys in here?
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and pls don't put johnman and anti-life in the same sentence.......someone might mis-construe.........found my keys......seen my lighter?
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Hal Ichecked out that Guthrie site, yea pretty strong stuff thanks bro.
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Husband last night brought it to my attention that the lyrics to "Jack Straw from Wichita-GUNNED HIS BUDDY DOWN!" We should now probably change that to 'COSMIC CHARLIE FOR PRESIDENT" He's much more on our side than a gun-slinger-even being the cowgirl I am.........xoxoxox Gypsy Cowgirlps-CC's Back-CAN YOU CHANGE IT???? I haven't learned yet!! Oy, forgive me
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Gypsy Cowgirl... It's actually "Cut his buddy down." So, you're safe. Jack Straw, seemingly is a knife murderer, not a gunman! So, that should make things better!! ;) http://www.hunterarchive.com/files/HandwrittenLyrics/JackStraw.html ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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Really? Geez-is our hearing going? (must be) Sometimes it really sounds like, "gunned his buddy down"......thanks, wait til I tell husband! Maybe I should've googled the lyrics? either way-COSMIC CHARLIE FOR PRESIDENT! haha......Gypsy Cowgirl
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Did you check out that link? Pretty cool - handwritten by Hunter while writing "Jack Straw". There are TWO other lines that my buddies always used to sing incorrectly in that song: 1) MY FRIENDS: "Gotta settle one horse score" REALLY: "Gotta settle one old score" 2) MY FRIENDS: "Half a mile from Tucson by the borderline" REALLY: "Half a mile from Tucson by the morning light" Obama / Biden '08/'12 ;) ~ Pappy "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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ps-just to let ya know, I've actually done this "leavin' Texas fourth day of July"........after a Willie Nelson 4th of July picnic......xoxox Gypsy Cowgirlhusband says, YES-our hearing has been going for some time now! Oy! too much loud R'n R when we were younger............
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apparently mccain's third crash was due to "engine failure" a flame out. tried reignition 3 times with no luck cuz he forgot to switch to his backup battery....his own damn fault, sure, but he was'nt "shot down". may i have a cookie now?....or some cake? huh? pls? can i? huh?
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I got it from the link-it didn't go through the 1st time, since I had left off the "l" on the htm part..........DUH.........cool! thanks! COSMIC CHARLIE FOR PRESIDENT Obama/Biden in the meantime...........Gypsy Cowgirl
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Jack Straw is a Bobby tune and could have been sang god knows how. Not being critical I like when Bob misses a beat or forgrts lyrics, changes for whatever reason, Throwing Stones is great example. The whole GD improv live thing man gotta love it. Yea Cosmic Charlie teamed up with Tommy Chong gets my vote. The madness never stopped
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I'm talking about the accounts of July 29, 1967 aboard the Forrester. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_r… Too much. The worst part is how he cowers from the fire, rather than helps. I thought the old man did well for the first 30-45 minutes or so in last night's debate, but he simply loses his cool when he realizes he's not getting under Obama's skin. One is ready to lead, the other is ready to have a caniption. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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thanks for your research, Johnman on the plane/McCain thing.......find your lighter yet??? Let's hope it's a landslide for Obama........I don't know if I could stand another 4-8 years of the way it is now. (I do have Canadian relatives, ya know).......How's middle America doing behind Obama? (& for that matter the deep south?) Will have to look @ this link on July 29, 1967.................COSMIC CHARLIE & TOMMY CHONG! what a team! That might wreck Nancy Regan's "just say no" campaign........but I'm hoping she was talking the real BAD stuff........xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl
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"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom""And that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Quote from Gettysburg Address, by Abraham Lincoln Nov. 19, 1863 POWER TO THE PEOPLE!.......xoxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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that's a word ya don't hear often. my boot camp company commander was part of the flight deck crew when the fire started and told us many stories. he was on the second fire team to attack the blaze and saw the team in front of his obliterated when the burning fuel under mccains aircraft exploded the bomb that had been jarred from his aircraft by the explosion of the zuni rocket hitting the plane next to his. there were holes blown in the flight deck, allowing burning fuel to pour down in to hangerbay where, by reports, mccain was helping enlisted men jettison un-exploded ordnance out the hanger bay doors so it would'nt cook off by the excessive heat. mebbe he should have stayed on the roof, i dunno. we're trained to leave the scene once properly equipped personnel arrive on scene or when the on-scene leader orders it, whichever comes first. there may have been more he could have done on the flight deck....we'll never know. it was a tragic accident that cost many young lives. the films of the fire and subsequent attempts to control it are now used to train young recruits on proper firefighting tecniques. many mistakes were made that day. the forrestal did recover from her wounds to sail again. guess i went off on a tangent.....he still was'nt shot down.
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He was shot down - just accidentally. My whole point to McCain is that he's not this incredibly brave, Patton-esque supersoldier hero everyone thinks he is. That whole artice (10 pages long, btw Gypsy) is fantastic information and it shows his true colors. A Navy brat who has a VERY long history of making VERY poor decisions. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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I gotta quell the rumors that have been flying around, I am NOT Joe the Plumber! ( -: I'm CC Joe, the Cheeze Wiz! peace.
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I'm glad you guys enjoyed the R. Stone article. I read it one day in Barnes and Noble when I was gettin a paper to find a job.uugg.Anyway I wasn't startin s_it,just wanted to help Obama along. I didn't live in Fl during the last election but I don't want to be one of those deadheads Bobby was talking about(at the show).Hey Ted if I see one of those bumperstickers,I'll let you know. Thanks Hal R for the link.So who will be in the Cabinet...big prizes for the correct guess..........drumz>space
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Great question, billdrumz!!! Sec of State - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton? Al Gore? Sen. Dick Luger? Sec of Defense - Sen. Jim Webb? Gen. Wesley Clark? I would really put HRC as the next Supreme Court Justice, actually. ~ Pappy "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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and as i have said before i'm not for or against either candidate....but if an aircraft is not "up in the air" but "parked on the flight deck" it cannot be "shot down" and the missile in question did not hit his aircraft, although he said it did, anyway pappy i have found your posts informative and interesting, thank you for your time.
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CC's Back is Joe the Plumber in disquise....don't let him fool you......just kidding CC... Oh, I once knew a Hog Farmer that went by the name of Chee-Wiz....Are you related? She was a nurse, I think.........don't worry, Pappy, I can't stand to look @ McCain......& like my 92 yr old mom said about our current pres (with his 73% dis-approval rate according to the news last night) after his re-election/theft/ "God, I have to look @ his face again?" I said-don't look.............. xoxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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Oh, it was actually "I have to look @ his ### face" she was cussing.......GC
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and to think all i wanted was a little cake........or a cookie.....sigh!
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Johnman-go git yer cookie & make sure it's the Alice B. Toklas type..........xoxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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jeez!...... wot kind didja think i wanted anywayz? mebbe made wif a little "special" butter? heehee
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She was born Alice Babette Toklas in San Francisco, California-April 30, 1877 – March 7, 1967........Wow, now we're completely off the titled subject.....oh, well.....sorry Mary E.........xoxoxo Gypsy CowgirlONLY S.F. could have Alice B. Toklas & the GD to their name! I'm so proud to be from here for many generations, actually! Yee-Haw....
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THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY BOTH PARTIES!NOT ONLY THAT-- it is POLITICALLY CORRECT!! While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Stephen at the entrance. 'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Stephen. 'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.' 'No problem, just let me in,' says the man. 'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.' 'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the senator. 'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.' And with that, St. Stephen escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises... The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Stephen is waiting for him. 'Now it's time to visit heaven.' So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Stephen returns. 'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.' The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.' So St. Stephen escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't understand,' stammers the senator. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?' The devil looks at him, smiles and says, 'Yesterday we were campaigning.. .. Today you voted.
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People are saying that Barrack's middle name is actually "Hussien" or however you spell it. So, that would make him Barrack Hussien Obama. Osama and Obama sound almost alike to me. Am I crazy? We supposedly dont have a copy of his birth certificate. Was he born in the U.S. If everyone wants change. What kind of change are we going to have. If the U.S. changes, it could get even worse. I'm thinking about Russia and how it is over there now. I see alot of crazy stuff about Russia online. Or whatever the country is called now. Are we going to have terroist attacks after the election. Are the terroists that are still out there going to test the new president. Whoever it is. Are there even terroists still out there? Is the new president going to take action or is he just going to let it happen or is he not going to know what to do. If the terroists attack, should we just sit around and let it happen? They drove planes into the world trade center. Does that matter? Do we even care if we are attacked. I used to be a bleeding heart liberal mainly because of the environment and a peaceful planet would be nice, but does it seem like Barrack really gives a crap about that stuff? Yes, hes a democrat, it really doesnt seem like he is gonna do much of anything except let the country fall to pieces. Does that mean that the world is going to be in a blissful state of happiness, where I get mine and we brought the man down? As you can see I'm not much of an Obama fan. I think he is likely to make it much worse. Sure he can bring about change but, I fear it is a change for the worst.
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That there seems to be people getting on this site just to say some very mean things and to redbait and now to make statements about Obama and Islam and terrorism. People are getting on and there first posts are anti- Obama and that is all they post about. They do not write anything about themselves in the bio section or how many shows they went to, etc.. Not that people need to do that but these posters never do. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Do yourself a favor, Danny C. Put the stereotypes away and go visit (as I just advised someone else to do) www.snopes.com and put "Obama" in the search bar. You'll find all the ridiculous myths that you are apparently clinging to, put to rest and proven false - with sources. AFTER you do that, you may want to read his PLAN FOR CHANGE which is available on his website: www.barackobama.com . Read it. I'm not saying you will vote for him, but if you want to know what he actually plans to do with this country, rather than believe the fear and smear you are prone to believing, you should simply read what he wants to do (and how he wants to do it - paying for everything). FYI - his birth certificate is here: http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.j… The link from where I got THAT is here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp ALSO, check THIS out: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp Do some actual reading, before believing all the crap you're spouting (apparently heard on right-wing radio/tv or read on emails). No offense - but bring SOMETHING to the table. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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Pappy / Hal agreed think that the above has targeted the wrong audience, sounds like that person themselves should run a campaign. I like this forum cause there are some interesting discussions not a bunch of FU statements. There are many that only discuss pro's and cons of each or stating thier opinion on who the support but not in a FU manner. Maybe that dude should come join me for a year-15 month's if he's worried about terrorist's and insurgents. Hal bro also agree on your Bios statement, I like checking them out. Wonder if this is one of those guys who goes to shows and leaves trash everywhere. FYI mines Deadhead Paratrooper on intro's. I want to load some cool pics I got too, like on Haight street and at Red rocks but I gotta dig em out and scan them when I get home there was no digital cams at that time. Cause on the net it's like a blind date. And espcially here check peoples stuff, say wow man I was at that show or been there etc. Internet question? Anyone ever thought about what DSL is backwords. Hey Pappy checked out you site, listened to some GDTRFB, sweet, sounds really good. if I'm ever going through Pitt I be sure to look for you all. Strangers stopping strangers just to shake their hands.
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Is broadband for your brain! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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XYZ PDQ!!! quid pro quo?? huh? ok, I'll go back to being CC eoj never been a plumber, though I was a 'joint fitter' from time to time. peace.
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Thanks guys, maybe the internet is really not the best place to talk about that kinda stuff. See-ya later, Dan
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but didn't really think about it as i don't always check profiles....mebbe i should start...no matter the candidate, mean spirited posts just don't belong....thanx hal!!
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Thank you, Good Ol' GD - glad you liked it. We've got some pretty good vids up, too from this past summer (if you check out the "links" page on our website). Thank you for all you do, bro. Lemme know if ever you come to the 'Burgh. Thanks to you too, Hal!! Check THIS out for something funny...(well, actually kinda sad).... http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud18-2008oct18,0,1216330.sto… Figures, eh? ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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There's a good picture on of ol John having a heart attack in Stars and Stripes today 21 Oct. page 8. Itried to copy for everyone but it won't let me. Just google the paper and open it.