7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000
Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973.
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others.
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.
30 years ago tonight, I was at the Warfield Theatre, for the 2nd show of this great 3 night run. It was cool that Garcia was still playing these smaller places at this time, the Dead hadn't played at the Warfield since 1983 and no longer played small places by 1991, you could still see Garcia in small places like Keystone Palo Alto at this time. These Garcia/ Grisman shows were fantastic and Garcia was in top form.
Where is Justin Case when we need him????????
“Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos”
I learned that Marty Robbins sang El Paso when there was a short video clip of him singing it in one of those Time-Life Music TV commercials selling Classic Country on vinyl (actually it was probably CD by that time).
Another plagiarized quote:
“Make America Great Again”.
There’s video of Ronald Reagan saying it from the ‘resolute desk’ in the Oval Office.
Marty Stuart now owns Clarence White's sunburst Telecaster with the Parsons/White B-Bender; that's his main stage guitar. Can't say enough good things about their stage show, from Bluegrass to Americana originals, Byrds and garage/Psych covers, impeccable musicianship and vocals.
Looks like most versions of Help on the Way/Slipknot that have appeared on Dave's Picks and box sets(and the Archive as well), are split at the wrong spot: the Blues for Allah LP version of Help is 3:15, after which Slipknot start with the lick that sorta' musically simulates the action of a slipknot, which makes more sense to me; the same lick that also ends the Slipknot jam before Franklin's Tower. The timing on the other releases includes that lick at the end of Help, which doesn't match the original intent...This stuff keeps me up at night...
50 years ago today…..
December 9, 1971
Fox Theater, St. Louis, Missouri
Set 1: Truckin'-Brown-Eyed Women-Mr. Charlie-Jack Straw-Sugaree-Beat It On Down The Line-It Hurts Me Too-Tennessee Jed-El Paso-Run Rudolph Run-Black Peter-Playing In The Band-Casey Jones-One More Saturday Night
Set 2: Ramble On Rose-Mexicali Blues-Big Boss Man-Sugar Magnolia-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away
Deadicated to Rosie McGee, Ed Wolpov, Peter Corrigan, James Anderson, Michael Parrish, Ric Carter, and Alarmy.com, because I've been to too many dead concerts, there've been smokin' holes where my memory used to be…..
And now ladies and gentlemen here they are straight from Madison Square Garden in famous New York, the Grateful Dead!!!!
In retrospect this show suffers because it came right before the behemoth December 10 show. The first set is strong and has heartfelt versions of It Hurts Me Too and Black Peter. The second set is, well, short, but well played, and there’s no encore.
I thank TPTB for its official release………
Not a top tier show, but worth a listen…………..
Kinda rollin’ low………..
Beauty, sweet love, is like the morning dew,
Whose short refresh upon tender green,
Cheers for a time, but till the sun doth show
And straight is gone, as it had never been…..
Just a quick note to thank you for your post yesterday. Now I am not feeling so defensive, I would say you have given me something to think about - which is good. I would have sent this in a PM if they had been working, but as they aren't, I thought I'd slip it in here rather than say nothing.
12/9 - if nothing else it has the GOAT Run Rudolph Run.
Sometimes I sit back and marvel that we have all of these shows to listen to. I count roughly 25 officially released 1971 shows (partial releases and compilations). I don't have 25 Rush, Who, and Yes shows combined from their entire touring careers. I wonder what that cost them from night to night - and then take into consideration that they weren't exactly a wealthy band pre-hiatus. I know they used these tapes to analyze their performances, but where do they even find the time to do that...
I hadn't heard 12/9 until the box came out. I've listened to it a bunch if times now, and yeah, it's shorter, and doesn't pack the heat of a long 2nd set jam.....but hinking back to when the archive releases first got off the ground in the early 90s, and there we're long droughts between releases, would we have been as excited about a12/9 show? It's kind of a rhetorical question for me, because I wasn't into them at the time, but I imagine anything live would have been a treat. It takes a lot of listens for me to really absorb a show, but I think they played as well as 12/10, right?
No hard feelings Daverock.
Thanks for that-no hard feelings on my behalf either. It seems wherever you get people together you get disputes (whenever I've involved, anyway) - what matters is if and how you resolve them.
50 years ago today…..
December 10, 1971
Fox Theater, St Louis, Missouri
Set 1: Bertha-Me And My Uncle-Mr. Charlie-Loser-Beat It On Down The Line-Sugaree-Jack Straw-Next Time You See Me-El Paso-Tennessee Jed-Big Railroad Blues-Casey Jones
Set 2: Good Lovin'-Brokedown Palace-Playing In The Band-Run Rudolph Run-Deal-Sugar Magnolia-Comes A Time-Truckin'>drums>The Other One>Sitting On Top Of The World>The Other One-Not Fade Away>China Cat Sunflower jam>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away
Encore: One More Saturday Night
This is deadicated to Kevin Kelly……………
The solid but somewhat unremarkable first set gives no clue of the upcoming super nova second set. Highlights include the great Good Lovin’ to open and the massive jam that closes the set. Another monster December 1971 show, and one that actually does get widespread love and respect. I am eternally grateful to TPTB for its official release. Savor it!
Ladies and gentlemen we have a loose frap………..
The universe is built on a plan the profound symmetry of which is somehow present in the inner structure of our intellect…..
I wrestled sleep to feed this box set addiction. But screw it, TGIF. The Dark Star tease at the end of the 10/17 Bertha kills me every time. Rational thought reminds me that they wouldn't have played it the next night if they had gone into it on 10/17, but it gets me all the same. Kind of like the Wild Thing tease on DP 28 before GSET.
So yeah, 10/17 - I was on the Dave Hoffman forum, and there was much talk about the PITB - so I thought I'd pass that on. It wasn't a "yeah it's a pretty good 72 version"; it was a flat out "the 10/17 PITB jumped to my top 3" sort of remark. I fell asleep before it ever came on, so today for sure. What I did uncover was Billy's drumming on El Paso - I can't say I've ever heard him whip this song up like he does here. Lots of great snare pops and giddy-ups between verses (I think he was doing couplets or double time or some such musical term - any drummers in the house?)
12/10 is on the agenda for today. Doc I think you made a good call on the Good Lovin' jam section. I think it may be better than any of the E72 versions - looking forward to paying close attention to that one on its anniversary. In fact I have 50 minutes before work - I'm going to turn off Bird Song and turn on that 2nd set from12/10.
Daverock, yeah I did react emotionally. I tend to stay on the sidelines, but there are a few people here I keep in touch with well enough to call friends.
On second thought I'm going to let this Bird Song play through. Jerry brought the stuff.
This box rules.. if I have one complaint.. I think they listened to these masters a bit too before they put them in storage. You can tell the source tapes were dragged across heads a few times. ..but hey, that's testament that they were good shows. Pure speculation of course, but I just might be correct.
A great box. Now.. about BCT a couple months earlier. That's next.
Yes I went to see the show at Altamont...I mean it was the Stones, GD, Santana etc supposedly....I was somewhat upfront and as the day word on being by myself I moved closer to the stage, about 60 ft. from it...Angels were out of control...there were a couple of busses parked close to the stage and through the day they were sitting on top for a better view...by late afternoon they were tossing urine filled wine bottles into the crowd...fun...pundits like to call this concert the end of the hippy dream etc but I think that a buncha hooey...all the bands did their best and there were some great momentsbut still...
....firing up 10.29.73 from this box. The band loved long shows that year. Ain't complaining. Spent a couple days revisiting '79 on the Pick Of The Day board. So much music. So little time
And yes. This box rules Jimbo.
Golden Knights and Philly Flyers tied up after two periods btw.
Edit. We need more heads chiming in on that board. It's fun.
I was among those on the Hoffman forums touting the 10/17/72 Playin' jam as in my top 5 all time. This whole box is really a magnificent compilation of material. Second only to the E'72 trunk. I don't have the trunk itself but I have all the shows. Man, this band could cook.
I have't been here in a while, but hello again and enjoy it all. Special mention of He's Gone from 10/19/72: at 9:59, Jerry and Bobby emerge from their typical exit jam and somehow simultaneously drop into this gorgeous melody over chord idea that they nail in unison. Bobby then chooses to move to a harmonic counterpoint, but he and Jer move in an out of unison as Phil ramps up the intensity to a clear Jerry blast out at 10:31. These moments are why I buy these releases. That 32-second sequence paid for the entire box. No other rock band could ever do that.
God, not only were you there, you were "there". When I saw The Stones at the Knebworth festival in 1976, I was so far away I could have been in the next county.
Funny when we attend a gig/show/festival that subsequently gets perceived and represented as a historical event-when at the time it just seems like another night out. I have never been to anything that had the magnitude of Altamont. I can remember seeing the Sex Pistols around the time they became National threat in Britain - Decemer 1976. If there hadn't been such a fuss afterwards, I'm not sure I would have remembered it.
I'm listening to this off the headphones for the first time. I don't have the HD CD player but the DVD player on playing this through is doing something really cool with 5.1 surround sound on. I often wonder what I'm missing without the HD CD player. The headphones experience of a show is so much different than a live room. Now I'm curious to hear how does PNC 1973 shows sound on the 5.1 system.
Jimmy - great point dude, I never even thought of that. The Dead themselves could have worn parts of these tapes out from just reviewing their performances.
Philontap - I have a feeling it was probably your post that I read on the Hoffman forum. I posted a short comment. Haven't been back there in a few days. Will check out He's Gone. I love those little nuances in their playing.
12 10 71
Addendum...today doing stuff around house
12 10 71 disc 3 at full volume
Yes Relayer at full volume
I was very productive
First listen to the vinyl and it sounds grate!
Did the whole show and am now on GDTRFB, finishing up the last album.
lost all ability to see and hear and passed out. woke up but now I am not who I was. Weird but true.
Still savoring this extraordinary river box, interspersed with forays into jazz. Last five: My Backyard, Mose Allison; Astounding Eyes of Rita, Anuoar Brahem; Harmony, Bill Frisell; Live from A&R Studios NY, Allman Bros Band; UnEasy, Vijay Iyer. Reading various posts trigger memories, then distracted by others, down the rabbit hole... here goes: Nappy at Altamont, woah. I was at RFK Stadium D.C. the next time the Stones toured the USA, for the July 4th 1972 concert with Stevie Wonder, just after the release of Exile. A communal group of us had dropped on the way down, we had a "guide" who stayed sober, good thing, though by then, had experience to anticipate the chaos of crowds. The scene outside was wild, hundreds of people did not have tickets and soon began to scale the outside of the stadium. Safely inside, we relaxed until we heard shouting and saw D.C. police inside in riot gear. Tear gas drifted in briefly as the police got gate crashers under control, some had reached the third level, were climbing in, the cartoon was becoming edgy. Nearly 100 were arrested, the WaPo called it a near riot outside. I had been downtown to various anti-war demonstrations, had seen riot gear, tear gas before. Thankfully everything settled down quickly though Wonder was secondary to all that was going on at the start. Went to a few baseball and football games at DC Stadium as a kid (known as RFK in 1969), knew it well. Nappy wrote Root Boy had a chunk of hash the size of a baseball? He lived in Takoma Park for a while, near College Park (UMD), about the most hip place in Maryland suburbs of DC at the time. Back in those days, as told, reefer was generally low grade but the hash market in D.C. was exceptional, likely because of all the diplomatic traffic. Prayers sent for a full speedy recovery for Carlos after his cardiac procedure.
Box set, Casey Jones 10/17. This show is really growing on me as a whole. At first the box hit me like a firehose - just a massive amount to take in at once - a much different experience than a lone Dave's Picks. I am trying to do complete show viewings, but inevitably there are a bunch of partials as well. I think I've probably done complete listens of '71 & '72 most, maybe a total of 18 between of them, and the '73 shows around 5 total (2 for the 29th and 3 for the 30th). So clearly '73 is behind in the count. But it's only now that I'm beginning to get a mental framework of the '71 and '72 shows.
12/9/71 was the first I was able to separate and think of as an individual entity. 10/17 is just killing it now. I latched on and am immersed in the excellent audio and performance.
I'm looking forward to to the rest of them to gel as individual units. Man this box set kicks ass.
Since there's been interest shown I'd like to say that tickets for The Tedeschi Trucks Band & Los Lobos go on sale for Red Rocks on December 17th....
Keithfan, that 10/17/72 show really surprised me and reiterates the adage, don't judge a show by its setlist alone. On paper, no big jam in the 2nd set, so how great can it be. My first listen to that show blew me away-- it is the show that just kept going and going. Just a fabulous rock and roll concert with a top of the line Playing in the Band for the win. They threw down an energetic show that was a rarity, especially for that era, in that it didn't have the long jam with songs weaving in and out of each other, but a show of stand-alone songs that just rock out.
And then they played the next night and performed quite possibly my favorite jam of all time, that sick Playin-Dark Star-Dew-Playin.
Great description of 10/17. Everyone's rocking and rolling, and it looks like this show is a solid half hour longer than any of the others. Execution is near perfect and so on. I think we may be getting some special magnificence from Keith on the grand piano too; he seems to be having a night on just about every song.
I'm just keeping on Truckin' with 10/18.
Some '71 anniversary shows coming up this week too....
that Root Boy lived in Takoma Park, very close to DC and that reminds me of that story about the time he tried to run down Spiro Agnew in an ice cream truck.... at 60 mph. He mentions this incident in the song "used to be a radical" Every song on that debut lp Root Boy Slim and the Sex Change Band is great.
50 years ago today…..
December 14, 1971
Hill Auditorium, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Set 1: Truckin'-Sugaree-Mr. Charlie-Beat It On Down The Line-Loser-Jack Straw-Next Time You See Me-Tennessee Jed-El Paso-Big Railroad Blues-Me And My Uncle-Run Rudolph Run-Black Peter-Playing In The Band-Casey Jones
Set 2: Ramble On Rose-Mexicali Blues-Big Boss Man-Cryptical Envelopment>drums>The Other One>Wharf Rat-Sugar Magnolia-You Win Again-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away
Deadicated to Charlie Miller---and other like-minded individuals such as Mr Bill, Sir Mick, GEMS, and Scott Clugston, because memory is the personal journalism of the soul…..
Is it just me? I have listened to this show 203,842 times (yes, I kept track) and it never fails to deliver. Inspired, intense, intoxicating, occasionally even baffling. How did they do it? Why did they do it? Who did they do it to? How many young minds were blown on this evening of delights? For me this show has attained mythic status……….
Dream like, yet firmly grounded in the reality of rock and roll. Rocking, yet soulful. Creamy smooth, yet nicely edgy. Psychedelic, yet country. Greasy, yet jammy. All Dead things to all Dead people………..
For 1971, this is the complete live Dead package. Highly highly recommended!
If the world were clear, art would not exist……
Because philosophy arises from awe, a philosopher is bound in his way to be a lover of myths and poetic fables…..
I don't think I ever let this one steep long enough. It was a patch job of leftovers from the DaP 26 "main event", which itself was a white hot scorcher from the previous month. I just noticed this morning that I don't even have the songs in the correct set list order (half of them were on Disc 3; the other half were on the 2018 Bonus Disc, but out of sequence).
This was also the 4th Autumn '71 show in a year, as we received back-to-back helpings of newly returned shows for the 2017 and 2018 Bonus Disc Dave's Picks editions. Looks like Ramble On Rose is the only missing track (archive.org has an incomplete version of it). I think I may have been slightly underwhelmed by this show when it came out, being #4 of 4 with very similar set lists.
Listening this morning with fresh ears and Doc's enthusiasm, it's carving out its own identity finally. I'm just getting into the second set and yeah...they're tight and hitting all marks so far. Excellent recording too. Pigpen's Hammond during the Truckin' opener is loud and clear; the "big build-up" instrumental that concludes Tennessee Jed is as good as it gets; fantastic soloing by Jerry on Big Railroad Blues; perfect backing vocals on stuff like Jack Straw; and Pigpen's voice sounds strong to me on his tunes. It's by and large (so far) an outstanding performance. Will have to save The Other One and conclusion for later. Wasn't expecting this quality, but it just goes to show what Estimated Eyes reminded me of - when the beast was out, they could take a whole set full of the shorter structured tunes to great heights. There sure was a hungry raw enthusiasm that hovered over them in those days. Looking at this one with new eyes Doc.
New DiP (19!!!) vinyl on sale this morning at Real Gone
I agree with Doc, this show in Ann Arbor is top GD. Dave Picks 26 Disc3 is a touch stone between Skull & roses & Europe 72. I like all these 71'shows,Port Chester, Austin, Hollywood Bowl, Albuquerque, Felt forum, It looks like the first Gd I loved, Skull, live dead & Europe72.On 71-12-14, There's Kicking a.. uncle, Keith jumps on Run Rudolph, Pig pen shows he is back on Harmonica and it's rumbling until the closing time, when they storm the room for NFA- Goin Down-NFA, all you can expect in 71.
Glad they still had it by the time I saw the email, been on the lookout for it ever since they hinted at it in a recent email. Glad it was 10/19/73 to add to the Kiel shows a week and a half into the tour. Love this Dark Star> Mind Left Body Jam> Dew. With this, DaP 1, and 3/1/69, should be some groovy vinyl times in next several months. Though I'm none too confident in my 3/1/69 purchase, since the record stores all seem to say the same generic thing about refunding if not actually available when it comes time to ship. Though some of the stores I looked at disappeared from the search results after a few days, so maybe they do have accurate numbers of what they'll get. So odd no announcement on it officially, and that they would seem to be following the terrible rollouts of 2/28/69 and 5/9/77 as record store only releases. 2/28 is still on sale after coming to dead.net for sale, being on target and walmart and amazon as well. 5/9/77, however was COVID RSD slow rollout in record stores, but not available in reality it seemed, and only ebay was a choice, and that's in the Boston area. The record store I got it from thru ebay was in Iowa, and they had sold 77 of them at that point. And I couldn't find a copy in Boston, and two record store owner friends couldn't track it down either. I don't know what retail would have been on that, but probably far less than $185. Luckily 3/1 appears to be 80 bucks because the 3 LP nature of this beast, just wanna make sure my 80 bucks will be spent and delivered upon. But I'm confirmed with Real Gone, and they're great at fulfillment and updating you.
When shall we know the Meaning of the Universe, Life, and Everything Pick?
ETA: the 10/17/72 Playing shot into the upper reaches of my top 5 on the first listen. Better than Veneta, only one I'm for sure is beter is 11/18/72 Hofheinz. Bless Dave and Mr. Norman for that wondrous double gift of Dave's 11 11/17/72 and RSD 2014 Hofheinz 11/18/72. And then 7 years later we get more from that tour and bonus '71 and '73 shows. :)
50 years ago today…………….
December 15, 1971
Hill Auditorium, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Set 1: Bertha-Me And Bobby McGee-Mr. Charlie-China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider-Beat It On Down The Line-It Hurts Me Too-Cumberland Blues-Jack Straw-You Win Again-Run Rudolph Run-Playing In The Band-Brown-Eyed Women-Mexicali Blues-Big Railroad Blues-Brokedown Palace-El Paso-Casey Jones
Set 2: Dark Star>Deal-Sugar Magnolia-Turn On Your Lovelight>King Bee>Mannish Boy> Turn On Your Lovelight-One More Saturday Night
Encore: Uncle John’s Band
This is dedicated to Todd Sherman………….
High quality tapes of the massive, 18 song first set have circulated since the dawn of time and were a December 71 cornerstone in many collections. Highlights include the sweet China/Rider, fine Cumberland Blues, and a strong Hurts Me Too.
The second set appeared years later. It was worth the wait………
It kicks off nicely with the twelfth and final Dark Star of 1971, twenty minutes of jamming sonic sweetness that travels through many interesting musical spaces. The second set---and the last tour of the year---closes with mythic appropriateness with a rockin’, bluesy, rapping (hey, was Pigpen the first white rapper?) old school Lovelight.
A wonderful companion piece to December 14. When resonant harmonies arise between this vast outer cosmos and the inner human cosmos, poetry is born……
Sometimes at night I would sleep open-eyed underneath a sky dripping with stars. I was alive then.…
It is my hope that during my brief passage through this universe, that I may share with you the joy of hearing the music of the stars... knowing that the composer was from a distant place and the songs were written eons ago, which now fall gently on this place for all to hear…..
Thanks for the heads up. I always receive the email after they sell out
Deep Thought provided a fantastic twin to Dave's Picks 1 and 2 with 41 and 42, which are 5/25/77, 7/31/74, 5/26/77, and 2/23/74, respectively. Sure 2/23 isn't a full Wall of Sound show, but gee whillikers, He's Gone> Truckin'> Drums> The Other One> Eyes of the World> One More Saturday Night sounds pretty fantastic to me, even if it is essentially an hour in E with a drum interlude, and the G#m part of Eyes, and Saturday Night. Very enthusiastic about this Pick, pretty stoked for 41. Since retreads over earlier near Picks are happening, maybe some more of the 1969/70 stuff from the Houseboat stash is left over. Still tantalized by Dave's mention of a Dark Star in there that had "extremely unusual activity from Phil". I don't think it was on the Thelma bonus disc, but was mentioned in those liner notes. If something like that was 43, then a 44 4 disc Greensboro 1991, that'd be a damn solid year of Dave's. Halfway there.
Have listened to almost every 71 Grateful Dead concert direct on the half century mark. Was a day or so late on a couple of the anniversaries, otherwise will have made the full journey on the way come New Years Eve. Heavy dose. Maybe half of them first time listening. Thinking back to those effervescent days and creative peaks feels like a long view into the past. Saw them ten times that year, and here we are in the future, another winter coming down. Just finished hearing Dark Star from 12/15/71. Wow . Fresh - timeless. Big thanks to Doc 11. Big kudos to Dave in Canada. Thank you gentlemen.
Good tidings to all, “keep the Mother 🌎 rolling”.
Good to see ya!
Been hitting em all since 3/24 Winterland. Also tge Boxilla show and the Capitol run, so missed about a dozen early on?
But what a long strange trip it’s been lol.
Just hitting 12/15/71 for the very first time, wow, what show: Dark Star, Cryptical, a big ole heaping portion of grease, AND it has a Cumberland! Only missing a PEGGY O lol.
Looking forward to a 71 New Years celebration. Anyone know if there’s any video on Usetoob?
EDIT: oooopps, no Cryptical, still a top 71 in my book.
The hype email for the bonus disc mentioned several songs that are on it "amongst many others". I'm not sure how many more will fit, but I would be most pleased if they included Brokedown Palace, Wharf Rat, and Eyes of the World. Yeah, Eyes of the World is on the main show, but are there ever really enough from '74?
Also, one of the set list sites cites Here Comes Sunshine as "Highly Cited".
Ha, great minds think alike lol.
I was thinking the same thing: what will those “other” choices be?
So I took Avery brief look at archive times for the overall shows, and did a very quick “in my head” time count and fugue the tunes he mentions come in around 57 minutes or so?
So, will there be any, and will he then use, extra space on the “42” discs?, and what other songs will he include on the bonus? Hey, bored, inquiring minds wanna know! Lol.
- Truckin’/Nobody’s Jam/GDTRFB are around 18:40 or so.
- Eyes/China Doll, around 20:00
- Rat/Mags around 18+
- Jed/uncle, <12
- race is on, 3:06
Now this is all very general, so don’t shoot me.
I’d have to guess, if only tge bonus disc with no 2/22 filler on the 42 proper:
- US Blues
- Ship of fools
? Race is On (extra 3:06)
- Truckin’/No Jam/GDTRFB (extra 18+)
That would be around 79 minutes depending on editing. But as KF so rightly states, ya can’t beat those 74 Eyes, and into China Doll no less.
This is with Uncle John’s as the encore of course.
It’d be nice if they’d go with my first layout AND the Eyes/China fitting as filler, but who knows?
It will be interesting to see actual song list!
DISCLAIMER: I observe the right to be completely wrong!
We have 5 months to ponder it.
You clearly stole that from me with no footnote no less. In truth, my original statement was, "I reserve the right to be completely, fall on my face flat wrong..." But I digress.
How does the saying go, I may not be right, but I've never been wrong? I'm pretty sure that one was me too.. but I double digress.
Anyway.. just laughing at myself, because I know I have said that here and been both right and wrong about stuff.. Hey.. We do the best we can. Humility is understated in these troubled times. Fun, humor and GD Music is priceless.
....I think I started the Last Five thing when I was high. I know I own the copyright to four....dots. Not really saying much lol.
GOGD - 9.30.89 Shoreline
The Clash - The Clash
Tedeschi Trucks Band - 12.1.21 Boston
Phish - 6.18.04 Brooklyn
The Ramones - The Ramones
Current watching. The fifth and final season of The Muppets. Its the Gladys Knight episode. Loved it when I was eleven. Love it more now.
Edit....next guest is Hal Linden of Barney Miller. I don't recall this episode, but I recall The Barney Miller Show. Dad loved it.
Last five was definitely you, perhaps in the pre-Senator days. I was there and surprisingly I remember. Four dots too.
Hal Linden, Barney Miller.. classic. My favorite character was Phish. Just saying.
And I didn't even work this week. Man it was nice. What did I do, let's see....I spiked my coffee, sat on the couch, blew off responsibilities, read a bit, watched a Larry the Lounge Lizard video....and I listened to a lot of Dead. There may have been an anniversary in there, and I think I watered the Christmas Tree a couple of times. There was also a bizarre cat veterinary appointment, but I won't get into that here; let it suffice to say the ingrown toenail is fixed and the cat's been high on a shot they gave her for a week.
Slight diversion this morning - I'm going with a '78 show instead of the LTTR Box Set and1971 anniversary shows. Dave's Picks 37 is on tap, and wow, is this ever a change in sound. I believe I've been listening to only one-drummer Dead since the Box Set came out.
What great service the Owsley foundation provides; I ordered the Doc & Merle Watson box set for my brother and 3 hours after my order was placed, they have already shipped it out, that's fast. Bear Family Records is the same way, they really get your order out fast.
Lol, I thought about that also.
Hopefully it’ll leak before then, as it’s going to drive me nuts “figuring” ; )
Dude that gave me my first trip used to swear by Fraggle rock?
LOAD OF BOLLOCKS
This is what humanity has come to?
Has ONE positive thing come this claptrap?
TikTok "challenges": to bring out the inner shitforbrains in us?
the current "challenge" is violence in schools
Whatever the wait is.. once it comes, I am going to combine it with the missing songs using the best available source that circulates (likely the I already have). For partial shows like this I'd rather fork out the add $25 and have the whole show remastered. I'm curious if Jeffrey Norman mastered the whole show and then put just the 7 or songs on the bonus disc.. that seems most likely to me. ..and if they go through all that trouble, why not make it available.
Just the way my brain looks at a problem like this. I would have released the whole three show run as a mini boxset.
Oh well, missed opportunity.
I'm with you on that one Jimbo - just give us the whole show. I rarely comment on how the powers that be could have done things, but I liked your suggestion way back when DaP 13 came out, that it would have been a great mini box set to complement Winterland 1973 and Winterland 1977. I imagine it as the same box style with a variation of the Stealie logo (kind of the same way '73 and '77 are subtly different). Brick Red. Would have made the perfect Winterland trifecta.