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  • daverock
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    What's in a word?

    Thinking about this subject took me back to 1990, and those three shows I saw at Wembley. Listening to The Dead had really taken off for me in 1987, when I discovered a fanzine in England called "Spiral Light" which was devoted to the band. Through them a tapers library, and through them other tapers. Incredible shows coming through my letterbox every week. It was virtually all I listened to - on a very basic mobile cassette recorder. I didn't know anyone else who knew, heard or cared about The Dead. My girlfriend did, of course, but she wasn't really into music of any sort.

    Fast forward to Wembley and I am in the balcony surrounded by crowds of shouting, singing, talking, dancing people. On average, they looked younger than me - I was 33. A lot of noise before the band came on, and it increased when they did. They responded as loudly to Stella Blue as to U.S.Blues. I wondered if they were actually listening to the music at all, or if they had seen so many shows that it was just background music to them for their own partying. In a way it was more like being at a giant football game than a music concert.

    When I got back home, my mates asked me what it was like. I told them it was incredible - and that there were all these people from America there, who had followed the band around Europe. I told my mates these people did this all the time, across America and that they were called " Deadheads". They seemed very different form the kind of people who write on the board - but maybe they are the same people.

  • mkav
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    continued Deadhead commentary

    I am sure I am a Deadhead by most definitions, but I still don't necessarily like being called a Deadhead (or being labeled as anything, for that matter). The narrow connotation of the unemployed unwashed drifter may not even be current anymore. I've enjoyed the music, overall scene, concerts, etc. since the mid 70s so I guess I'm still hanging onto a passé trope.

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    I guess the definition of a lunatic is a man surrounded by them

    Hey rockers!!!

    Previous/other definitions of deadhead:

    one who has not paid for a ticket
    a dull or stupid person
    a partially submerged log
    a faded blossom on a flowering plant
    to make especially a return trip without a load
    excess metal in the riser of a mold

    I guess that explains it...............

    Rock on,

    Doc
    Deadhead

  • Graceful_Dead
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    The Age-old Question

    Doing my homework, I came across salient entries in the Skeleton Key: Dictionary for Deadheads (Shenk and Silbermnan, 1994).
    Much like the sentiment expressed by MKAV and DAVEROCK, under the entry "No but I've been to shows" is:
    "a reluctance to be tagged with the word "Deadhead", not wanting to be lumped in the category with Tour Rats or with the negative portrayal of Heads in the media".

    And again, under the entry for Deadheads, Blair Jackson is quoted as saying, "I wish I had a dollar for every person I've met who said "I like the Grateful Dead but I'm not a Deadhead".

    I'd say this is a different response than saying "I don't wish to be labeled that way"; many people have heard a few tunes and liked them, and otherwise do not show outward signs of having caught the bug (e.g. downloading shows).
    Later Jackson adds "..what it IS about is a certain openness in spirit and attitude" and "...if you say you're a Deadhead, you are". Yep, no barriers, no qualifications to meet.

    But I am left wondering how to regard those who appear to be Deadheads, but who have broader tastes that covers all the acts at a jam band festival: Jam Hearts?

    PS Enjoying the holiday

  • daverock
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    The first Deadhead

    I can remember reading an interview with Jerry Garcia once, in which he was asked about Deadheads and how many shows some of them had attended. The interviewer said words to the effect that no matter how many shows that was , no one Deadhead had attended all of them. Jerry responded by saying he was wrong, because he had. Pretty cool.

  • Forensicdoceleven
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    If you want to see the sunshine, you have to weather the storm..

    Hey, Sunshine Daydreamers!!

    We weren't Deadheads at first, but once we morphed into that we were all in. Never viewed that label as derogatory. To us it always meant folks who are very into the music of the Grateful Dead. Not everybody made it to shows, but that didn't matter........

    LOL everybody in my office knows I'm a Deadhead, one look at my car and you can just tell........

    So Jeff, how do I join? Can I afford the dues? Are there meetings??? LOL maybe all these years I was an "honorary member" and never really knew it..............

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    Everyone has a dark cloud hovering over them at some point, but then there is sunshine.....

  • Oroborous
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    Just exactly perfect HG

    And
    Howdy Jeff!

  • JeffSmith
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    Are You Kind?

    What he said: Just exactly perfect HunterGatherer.

  • huntergatherer
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    What/Who is a Deadhead

    It's a simple answer: whoever loves and identifies with the music. I used to (36 years ago) resist the label for myself, but who am I kidding? It is just a love for the music, a love for sharing the live experience, and recognizing the very real alchemy that exists between this music/band and its listeners, especially in a live environment. There should be no gatekeeping, nor any stigma. Are you kind? It really doesn't need to go any farther than that. And we are especially kind and caring to each other at a show. Sometimes we are absurdly nerdy about the music (somewhat like an obsessed sports fan), but even this is not a requirement. Go to a show, and celebrate life with 15,000 of your best friends, most of them complete strangers! Maybe even convert others to the joy of subsuming your ego to the greater whole.

  • mkav
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    @Jeff

    very elegantly, and accurately, phrased.

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The bus came by. We got on. That's how it all began. Almost as soon as the Fare Thee Well shows were announced, folks started planning to meet in Chicago. They met. They connected. Things were never the same. And now, further! Or maybe Furthur.
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teaches that the number of Deadheads is not static, but rather a dynamic number and as such, is unknowable.
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However, we may be dodging the more important question of "How many Dead Heads can twirl on the head of a pin?"
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just exactly perfect question
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"unknowable" is not unbounded. I am going to start the bidding at 250,000 (+1) (the RCF*) *rrrrgrrrr Correction Factor
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.....if you need the music and spirit every day to lead a happy life.....doesn`t matter if you have been to 1 , 100 or no shows at all.....
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'Mornin' Geoeclipticalenvelopmentmeister!Here're a few: Dark Star - Grateful Dead Sunshine Daydream - Grateful Dead Standing on the Moon - Grateful Dead Dark Hollow - Grateful Dead Here Comes Sunshine - Grateful Dead That Lucky Old Sun - Jerry Garcia Band; Brian Wilson Midnight Moonlight - Jerry Garcia Band Picasso Moon - Grateful Dead Mountains of the Moon - Grateful Dead Anthem of the Sun (album) - Grateful Dead And then there's: Blood of the Sun - Mountain Moon Struck One _ The Band Aquarius/Let the Sun Shine In - 5th Dimension Moonshadow - Cat Stevens Birthday of the Sun - Melanie Fat Old Sun - Pink Floyd Moon Turn the Tides - Hendrix Moon Song - America Dark Side of the Moon (album): Eclipse - Pink Floyd Here Comes the Sun - Beatles; Harrison; Havens Sun King - Beatles Moondance - Van Morrison For Yasgur's Farm (Who Am I But You & The Sun?) - Mountain Moonbeam Song - Harry Nilsson And You And I: CordOfLife>Eclipse>ThePreacherTheTeacher>Apocalypse - Yes My Only Sunshine (The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine) - Beach Boys Bad Moon Rising - Creedence New Rising Sun - Jimi Hendrix Judgement Of The Moon And Stars - Joni Mitchell Sunshine of My Love - Cream Moonglow - Artie Shaw Tequila Sunrise - Eagles Flor d'Luna - Santana Sunshine Superman - Donovan Third Stone From The Sun - Hendrix Wake Up Sunshine - Chicago Who Loves the Sunshine - Velvet Underground You Are the Sunshine of My Life - Stevie Wonder Let The Sunshine In - Crowd at Woodstock
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That's some 2nd choice list!
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Dark Star by Grateful DeadFacts Total Plays 1101 times by 50 Artists From the release Live/Dead (Live) First Played in Concert December 13, 1967 by Grateful Dead at Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA, USA Most Recently Played August 9, 2017 by Gov’t Mule at Maine State Pier, Portland, ME, USA
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set the controls for the heart of the sun, pink floydcheap sunglasses, zztop
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You wear them Cheap Sunglasses you might get Arrested For Driving While Blind and lest we not forget Black Hole Sun Soundgarden
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Into The Sun by Grand Funk RailroadWaiting on a Sunny Day by the Boss btw IPA alert....Flying Monkey Brewery Barrie Ontario Canada....Juicy Ass IPA....a worthy brew....
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Forgot about that one! I'll look for flying monkey. Thanks
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Sunrise, on the Paul Kantner's Blows Againts the Empire
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Killer seats! Just take an inflatable raft and you'll be fine. And keep us posted. Onward!
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stay safe. Have an awesome show!
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Congrats on the kickass ducats. I'm sure the better half will have a blast. I saw the forecast and it's no joke. 15-20 inches of rain in Houston, hope DFW is spared a bit. Prayers to you and yours from da Buff....Remember when you load the arc take 2 of everything, dancing bears, twirlers, terrapins, dire wolves, cats, puppers, ravens, ahhhh you get the idea. Stay dry brother. Missing Jerry something aweful today....
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Most of the rain will be arriving Sat-Mon, and we are hauling our buns out of there early Saturday morning, along with probably half the population of the Houston metroplex. It's kinda fun, monitoring four twitter feeds, three websites, two weather channels and a soggy partridge inna pear tree for news. NRG stadium, site for the soiree, is being benevolent. They will let us bring umbrellas inside, but we gotta keep them closed. Anybody want a box of rain? Free, while supplies last.
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Glad the Stadium is allowing much needed shelter. Stay safe and dry if you can.
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1) Canoe2) Kayak 3) Extra Oars, and a call out to Jimmy and his pack-a-row 4) Life Preservers 5) Big shout-out to Neptune 6) The fickle finger of fate award to Harvey da Hurricane, 'cause... Bliss. Unpack. Show was just postponed. http://images.spaceref.com/news/2017/ooHurricane_Harvey.jpg Under that big blue blob just to the NE of the eye, is Houston, where the Coldplay crew is desperately packing up and loading out. When you can't even see the coastline, you know it's bad. Never mind the creeks rising, or the rivers, lakes, ponds and bays. This time, the ocean is rumbling and a rising storm surge, with all the boxes of rain in the gulf, is set to hammer that fair city. Harvey; not just an invisible rabbit anymore. Couch-tour commencing in DFW...prayers to those en-route or already onsite.
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good call by Coldplay, that storm is a monster, nothing worse than climbing steel in that crap
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At least you weren't en route. Good to see even Harvey can't dull your great attitude and sense of humor. Onward.
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The Titanic sails at dawn....and everybody's shouting which side are you on? Glad you bailed Georgie boy.... God does work in mysterious ways.... Stay safe, stay dry, hug those who matter most...and pet the rest.... (Coldplay is waaay overrated) ;-)
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Mayer and Sons Fall 2017 tour dates...Tickets go on sale beginning September 16th... preregister at Ticketmaster to get presale codes.... November 12 New York, NY – Madison Square Garden November 14 New York, NY – Madison Square Garden November 16 Philadelphia, PA – Wells Fargo Center November 17 Boston, MA – TD Garden November 21 Washington, DC – Verizon Center November 22 Hartford, CT – XL Center November 24 Detroit, MI – Little Caesars Arena November 25 Columbus, OH – Nationwide Arena November 28 Charlotte, NC – Spectrum Center November 29 Atlanta, GA – Philips Arena December 1 Dallas, TX – American Airlines Center December 2 Austin, TX – Frank Erwin Center December 5 New Orleans, LA – Smoothie King Center December 7 Orlando, FL – Amway Center December 8 Sunrise, FL – BB&T Center ASL and T, congrats on the home game, prayers and well wishes from the tribe, stay safe with Irma... Georgie boy....move over little dog, big dog's movin' in for a few days.... I can sleep in the shed....
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Fall D & CO Tour announced. Daydream Fall reunion, Dallas, Price of admission, who gave out the licorice at FTW 2015? Those who know, are in the know.
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ticketb*st*rd, WTF?? What happened to mail order? Must be tough to find a bot to mail all those requests. In their misguided efforts to "get the tickets directly in the hands of the fans" they now have the foxes guarding the henhouse. This is the same procedure employed for the Boss's run on broadway. Tickets were immediately on sale on stub hub for upwards of $6,000.00.
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Hey Mkav- preregister with the new ticketmaster verified fan site
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Just heard the posthumous Gregg Allman album Southern Blood in its entirety. What a fitting tribute to a vital part of music history.... https://youtu.be/DtJHGb5923Y RIP brothers Gregg, Duane, Berry, Butch and Lamar... it is worth a listen... now back to our regularly scheduled programming... To those affected by Irma....be well....
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Just as a friendly reminder, you all got one more day to get your yayas at Ticketmaster, get verified. Don't be like Bob, who missed out, be like Shirley, and jest: https://deadandco.tmverifiedfan.com/ I think you need to pick a city in the preregistration, so if you are going to multiple shows, register for each one separately Deadline is tomorrow. Presale is 9/12.
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Last night of the summer tour and first night of the fall tour. Call me a fan.
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luckily, The Ticketmaster Wheel didnt go flat. We're in for Dallas. what say ye?
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Well the joint was rockin' goin' round and round... just like the wheels on ba dus.... out on the road late at night, I see my pretty Alice in every headlight.... Alice, Dallas Alice.... Norton.... gonna pitch a wang dang doodle All night long....
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Smiles. No puppies were hurt during the wheel-a-thon.
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in! it was actually very painless for me...very happily surprised and grateful for that
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Sticking with the Indians then?Francona deserves another ring. I look at him and think he is made of horsehide
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yep...Indians have all the pieces. Last year they got to the last game of the WS with 3 healthy pitchers.. Klu-bot was worn out by game 7. They're all healthy this yr, knock on wood, so hopefully they get it done. Players and the city really seem to appreciate Francona, Now, if the BROWNS get a 21 game winning streak, that's a story!!!
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will get to spin the wheel today, as the masses queue up for Dead & Company tickets. Billie is busy sorting socks. He has priorities, you know. Public sale starts at 10 AM in whatever time zone your show is in. Don't be like Billie, and end up with a nice drawer of socks but no tickets. Be like Joe, be like Martha, give it a twirl, and smile, smile, smile.
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I have 2 extra tickets for Dead & Company’s Dallas show on 12/1/17. Not bad either: First Level, Section 117, Row K, Seats 1 & 2. You can have ‘em for face. Let me know this week if you think you’re interested. Onward!