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    "And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

    We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • joshua362a
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    Crowd noise unbearable and unnecessary

    Just listened to a few tracks on SiriusXM, Dave's usual preview special. This music is great and special as promised for the songs he presents however they went overboard with adding in fake crowd sounds since it came from a soundboard. Its overbearing, unnecessary, clearly unauthentic and nonstop. Its like listening to an old TV sitcom again once you've gotten used to no phony soundtrack. Please remove else I won't buy it. You've been warned. Thank you.

  • billy the kid
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    Every era of the the Dead

    I can find something I dig in every era of the Dead's music, every year there is something they played I can find I enjoyed..

  • scooterpoo
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    So predictable you can set your watch to it > New Release, then a flood of narcissism.

  • daverock
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    I always enjoy reading critical assessments of the band on here from people who obviously know what they are talking about. People who all think the same way - uniformity in any field always turns me off. Indiscriminate positivity does, too. It just doesn't ring true for me. Its quite patronising to label others as "naysayers" or "haters" if they don't like something connected to The Dead.
    Recent posts by Doc and Dark Star have surely been well worth reading. Whether you agree with the sentiments expressed in them is beside the point.

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    Well stated elbee and Forensic Doc

    you summed up my feelings on it. What on earth would motivate me to listen to a Bird Song that sounds like a cover band doing Bird Song?

    Hendrix freak it sounds like it's ok to dump on it as long as there is a description of the dump, yes? Something subtantative I think you said? The Bird Song melody in the 80s and 90s ends on a completely different note. Someone mentioned this a while back. You go to the 70s and Jerry ends on a high note and Bobby ends on low note. Jerry is typically higher in the mix so that's what you hear out of the melody, and it works to much better musical affect than the whole band ending on the low note which sounds yuckers compared to the 70s where Bobby played the same phrase lower to fill out the sound and compliment the main melody Jerry was playing. Jerry still sings the end of those verses on a high note, so it's not even like they're doing it to compensate for aging voices which get lower over time. Everytime I listen to an 80s bird song it's like the melody ends on a discordant note.

    How's this for substance. Brent hasn't the foggiest idea how to fill musical space in about 50% of the songs he plays. He sounds great as a chord guy which is great for Hammond playing, but as soon as you put him in front of the Fisher Price, he's just playing notes all over the place, as if he can only hear Phil, Billy, and Mickey. No regard to what the guitar players are doing. When Brent is off the Hammond, timing is good, musical coherence and improv note playing is way off. Did I notice this at the shows? Not really. I always got as close to Jerry as I could and the PA mix the crowd hears at the show is always much better than what ended up released in the 80s. I could barely hear Brent at the shows. I would much rather have a Bruce Vince keyboard combo atmospheric and ethereal. But even the Hammond was overplayed by Brent. Go listen to Pigpen in the WMD Port Chester show from '71. Did Brent have more energy and flexibility on the Hammond than Pigpen? Absolutely. Was it necessary? I guess so since the guitars weren't filling in the sound as they once did. Was it a better version of the band? Not even close. Pigpen knew exactly when to play and exactly when to keep his hands off the damn keyboard. Can hardly fault Brent for that when it came to the Hammond because nobody else was really pulling their weight full time instrumentally by 1987. It came and went throughout most shows. But this is really the whole point why there are a lot of people who don't care for later era Dead.

    There's your substatitive Hendrix freak. I wasn't going to post anything at all but just tell me I don't have a right to and I would be happy to provide an earful every time. Have some couth. Your analogy was cringe worthy, as if you were the one exhibiting the show in the middle of the room. Stick to your grease calls and concert stories. Those are good posts.

    Note to Space Brother - I am very happy for you. Regardless of my taste in 80s Dead, I know how much you love this. It's been a long wait for you, enjoy this one, enjoy the last one, enjoy the Giants Stadium box, and enjoy the RFK mini box.

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    I used to have 3/31/87 via WMMR-FM broadcast> VHS-HiFi> cassette (and VHS-HiFi> CD-R) and 4/7/87 via WNEW-FM broadcast> VHS-HiFi> cassette (and VHS-HiFi> CD-R). These shows are not excellent but very good shows in my humble opinion and I had pre-show and post-show DJ chatter on both recordings and on the 4/7 recording had commercials for Ben & Jerry's and a "Club Dead" (on 2nd Ave. in NYC, if I recall correctly). But for the life of me, I cannot find any of the recordings - original VHS or cassette or CD-R clones. Over the years, I heard that the Hartford shows were much better than the 3/31 & 4/7 shows. Replacing good for better ones, I guess.

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    HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOB!

    Happy birthday, Bob Weir!
    72

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    Hey rockers!

    Been a subscriber since day one and will continue to do so. We've always had to take the lesser with the greater, that's not a new phenomenon, here and in life itself...........

    Having a critical opinion is not being negative. Blind fandom is not a good thing. When somebody says, “Doc I can’t really dig 1971”, I get it (which I do, and accept), but my comeback isn’t “Man, stop being so negative”. Truth be told, as much as I love 1971 shows, not every one of THOSE is worthy of release……

    I’m not an armchair sniper. People here know who I am, what I am, where I am, what I do, and what I believe in. Paid my dues and saw my fair share of shows (including some that WERE clearly “bad”), but not an expert. Have never pretended to be, just another guy who loves the music. Ungracious? Certainly not, thankful for all the hard work TPTB put into all this. Selfish? I don’t know, ask the hundreds of people I’ve spread thousands of shows to. Before people throw stones, look in the mirror first. Do I poke fun at DL, you bet, but I don’t attack people who disagree with my opinions about shows.

    Some Grateful Dead shows are black and white, but yes most are varying shades of gray. Did I say those Hartford shows sucked? Absolutely not. On the other hand, I didn’t say---and never will---that they’re classic either. What I DID do was to question the selection itself. And from what folks have communicated to me in private, I’m not the only one who feels that way. But from what I’ve seen and heard, I’m one of the few who dares to question it in public.

    Which leads me to believe---and I may be wrong----that many folks here just don’t like contrary opinions about shows. Folks, not every Dead show was sweetness and light. Yes, I’m opinionated about the Dead and won’t apologize for that. And yes, I will continue to poke the bear when and where I see fit……………

    Rock on rockers,

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    Not sure if this has already been mentioned but now that a 4-disc show is possible for this series for the first time, maybe that opens the door to shows like 5/26/73 and 6/10/73 being officially released? Would not complain one bit...

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    Jerry back on the East Toast, did not attend and have never listened to Hartford 87, but all the shows that year where just high energy a lot of band and crowd symbiosis going on. For 87 the MSG run should be released as a box set, just saying. Sun going up and then the sun it going down, shine through my window and my friends they come around............

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I love The Rolling Stones and -- ain't it the truth that Keith is quite the survivor. Kryptonite. Silver Bullets. Nuclear Bombs. Nothing stops him. If you pounded a stake through his heart then he would just pull it out and have you down for dinner!

Yes old venues are a pleasure for a show. The Furthur shows here in New York City at the Beacon were a treat, and, likewise, Radio City Music Hall plus The Capitol Theater in Port Chester New York.

I would love to get a turn table and collect vinyl LPs. My place, however, is small so perhaps when I have more room. Yet I would not even know how to make a wise purchase on a turntable with stereo system because it has been so long since those days of having one in the family room as a kid, or lad, with the family. The salesman will try to sell me everything. I have got some research and catching up to do.

Holding vinyl albums in your hand and reading the liner notes while admiring the artwork is a pleasure! Everyone "in the know" says that the analog sound is superior to digital. I did get an iBasso DX80 dual audio chip music player used off of eBay which plays flac , wav, etc., and, added extra memory so it hold a tremendous amount of music and the sound is much, much, better than MP3 which is not a surprise.

I did not know about Setzer doing a Christmas show? Not to be callous, but after everything that has happened in Minnesota and that area -- I am surprised the venue is still standing and not a smoldering ruin.

Are we even allowed to celebrate Christmas this year or Hanukkah?

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When is a Telecaster not a Telecaster? Is any guitar with a Tele body shape considered a Telecaster? I have a Charvel Tele-style with a natural ash body and two Seymour Duncan humbuckers, and let me tell you a brutal metal sound can be gotten out of that thing. Also a Schecter Pete Townshend model like the one Pete plays in the Eminence Front video. Was always a sucker for the Kenney Jones era for some reason. It too has dual humbuckers with a coil tap and you can dial in anything from twang to crunch.

I have always admired Gretsch guitars, in the hands of other players. I can enjoy handling them in music stores but have never owned one. The necks aren't particularly forgiving. They seem to fight back a little, perfect for the aggressive pick attack of rockabilly... I could see dating one but don't think I could fall in love. Their greatest contribution to rock and roll, imo, is now realized as the Malcolm Young G6131-MY Signature Jet.

Been listening to Roy Buchanan and other blues all morning. Perfect for a chilly Colorado winter day, overcast... blues and strong coffee and a Fender Tele in my hands is feeling just fine. I tore out the stock pickups on this Tele (it's from the 2000's, not vintage) and installed a Roy Buchanan-cloned set. Cuts through nicely, cries and screams like a good Tele should.

Bunch of my friends are getting into the vinyl resurgence. We're all in our 50s and grew up with 8-tracks and vinyl to some extent, of course, then moved away from it but now many of them being older and gainfully employed are getting into filling up their houses with vinyl.

There's something to be said for admiring cover art and holding a record in your hands, and I do love the hisses and pops when the needle drops. The vinyl aesthetic is unparalleled, in my opinion. But I'll argue that the sound is not better. I believe it's an argument rooted in nostalgia and a purist's philosophy. Vinyl, to my ears, even on very high end equipment has a wonderful acoustic warmth, but suffers from midrange boominess and a loss of clarity and definition in the high end. Vinyl sounds like someone placed a pillow over the speakers, to a degree.

Now I know that's not a popular position to take these days, an inconvenient truth, but my ears don't lie. The human ear cannot hear the tops of the waveforms that are cut off by the digital format. Neil Young and Eric Johnson can argue the point all day long, and good for them. It's just my own personal truth after many side by side comparisons through the same speakers and power amp, going from vinyl to remastered cd's, there's no comparison.

Most prominently with Led Zeppelin and Steely Dan, there are buried tracks low in the mix of acoustic guitar and percussion that you can barely hear - or sometimes not notice at all - on the records, while on the cd the full sonic spectrum is crisp and punchy with no loss of bass, just that boomy pillow is removed.

It's cool, I love hanging out at listening parties where everyone gets to place one side on the turntable and drop the needle and pass around the album cover. I pretty much think everything was better in the 60s and 70s - the music and the movies, to be sure - but at the risk of invoking the wrath of purists who insist their high-end system says otherwise, vinyl may be cooler but digital sounds better.

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I never owned a turn table but our family had one. Having never listened to vinyl and cd in a side by side comparison, I can not give and informed opinion. I have, however, listened to a cd ripped to mp3 and then transferred to an mp3 Zen Creative player and then plugged the same headphones into a cd player and listened to the same track . . .. and it sounded much better than mp3. Richer. Fuller. Warmer. The same words people who are pro vinyl typically use.

Maybe I won't get the turntable after all?

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I don't compare the sounds -playing the cd then the vinyl - between the two mediums, but to me, vinyl has a distinct sound that I really like. It seems to fill the speakers more somehow, and the live records sound a bit more like a live concert than a recording of a live concert. Its hard to put into words. Some cds do sound better than vinyl - and sometimes its the other way round.

Ledded - to me a Gretsch really comes into its own when you try a bit of finger picking. I am very basic on a guitar-but that one pictured as my icon sounds incredible playing the bass strings as rhythm and using the top three for melody. It seems to have echo built into it-but play it through a valve amp with a Memphis Sun echo pedal and your on the way to the moon. The Keeley Ibanez analogue delay pedal is also great for a bit of slapback.

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I haven't seen them that close since I was a little kid.

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The Jerry/Lobo clip you posted was the night before the AIDS Benefit gig at the Oakland Colliseum Stadium...friends who were backstage hanging with the Lobos & crew before the benefit in Oakland told me that Hugh Romney came walking by ...My partner Mouse (who was one of the 'Bo roadies) yelled out at him "Hey Hugh, how about a picture" Hugh walked over thinking he was taking a picture with them, instead Mouse handed him the camera and friends and crew bunched up for a shot...Hugh stood with the camera for a few seconds then nodded and grinned, snapped the shot and walked away chuckling...Mouse was the one who got a copy of the New George's video for us...there's also video of Jerry playing with them at New George's in '86, supposedly his first post coma appearence in public...

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Nappy, that's a funny story. I've seen the other videos, Santana is in one with Garcia, it's in Nov. 1986. Garcia looks like he's having a good time.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp_LbYql79I. Sixtus, that is a very cool video you posted, Santana and Garcia really tear it up on there. I posted the one I was mentioning to Nappy, it took place at a Los Lobos gig, in Nov. 1986 at a club called New George's in San Rafael.

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Hi Sixtus...the dude with an eye patch on accordion is Norteño legend Steve Jordan....rock on...

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Thanks People - cool links, lots of accordion! Gives me a newfound appreciation for this when 'ole Brucey busts it out from time to time.

Happy Holiday Time to All.

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Ole Brucey sitting in on Keys.

Somebody out there must know that show...

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...I swear Jerry says that during one of the Garcia Band performances that was released where Bruce sits in (forget the date, it was a '91'er I believe); I wanna say either right before or just after they do Chuck Berry's 'C'est la vie' (which is the best song from Pulp Fiction IMHO). ....Or maybe it was Breadbox (another JGB favorite).

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In between Waiting for a Miracle and think from 11/9/91 Hampton, a few songs after You Can Never Tell (C'est La Vie).

At the end of band introduction we get "...and ole Brucey sitting in"

There's a few late era JGB songs I get.. Bright Side of the Road and Shining Star come to mind. I don't think Jerry ever hit this song out of the park and I wish he got to it a few years earlier when his voice was less haggered.. but I have a soft spot for What a Wonderful World as well.

I forget what my last Garcia Band show was.. but I have a sneaking suspicion they weren't doing many of these then. I tried like hell to see them when they were around, but they didn't venture East nearly often enough. I sure am thankful for the Garcia Band shows I was able to attend. Informal, relaxed, less ticket hype and crowd stress.. and he sure did like to stretch out some of the jams. There were some hard rocking shows mixed in.

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...with Brucey sitting in? Didn't realize he made such a late appearance. I shall also check this one out.

Jimmy, great breakdown of the quote. I always loved JGB shows for exactly the reasons you describe. Not so crazy in terms of the scene, but man he would play and jam. My only gripe might be shorter setlists and more often repeats, but at the end of the day it was all fantastic....just like the Good Ole GD.

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Yes, SMR is excellent.
Just finished Days Between which was also pretty good.

I like the sound of the hula girl guitar.

This show is good, possibly release worthy. A few vocal flubs in ScarletFire, but overall a good show.

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Such a fun show! I was able to make all three nights in Charlotte and was a wonderful time for my first shows in the South. The Unbroken Chain Scarlet->Fire just set the place ablaze. I think it took another 20 minutes before my feet touched the ground

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Gosh darnit. That Quran learning post fooled the gosh dang heck out of me. I thought for sure it was a legitimate post. I mean, he mentioned Brucey and everything!! Then, when I clicked on the link......my computer blew up.

Won't Get Fooled Again.

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It's funny that my post was swept up in the spam purge.

It did have the effect of either consciously or subconsciously drawing ones attention to the Blues for Allah period. A nice little 1975 studio effort.. a perfect album for the band at that time. Paradise waits.....

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I was at that show also and was blown away that they did Unbroken Chain. Also was unexpected, seeing Bruce again with the boys. That show was the last I saw of Jerry.
Hope everyone stays safe and has a great holiday!

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.....that if you drop down your user profile menu, there is a chat box option?

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Happy Christmas everybody!

Sad to hear of the demise of Leslie West. I was fortunate enough to witness Mountain live in 1971 at the first Crystal Palace Garden Party in London. The line-up was Quiver, Mountain, The Faces and Pink Floyd. Mountain were impressively loud and powerful. That man sure could play guitar. An influence on many who followed him. Another one gone. Damn.

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Anyone having issues receiving 36? Mine still says "processing". I reached out and they replied "sorry for the delay,blah,blah etc.

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Hey Ryan,
Just an FYI - I got my 36 in the mail Christmas Eve.
Customer service told me a month or so ago that they were waiting for a new printing to come in.
So, just make sure they know you did not get yours and they should get you one in the mail soon.
Have a great New Year !

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No Dave’s 36 here as well. Sent numerous emails, got the standard response then finally a response by Dr Rino last week which gave me some hope but no shipping notice or product as of today.

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I am still waiting for mine.

I did hear back last week regarding my copy that they are aware I have not received my CDs and there is help on the way...

In any case they seem to be short on product for confirmed orders for some reason and are working to resolve it. Guessing by the amount of time all this is taking, it might be they had to make a second, smaller production run??

I'm fine to wait a bit but understand those that are frustrated.

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I'm glad y'all have at least gotten recent email responses, my last response was 11/27, I sent a followup seeking a status update on 12/15. Zilch. I don't think an update is asking too much, certainly not with 2 weeks having gone by since I last asked and 4 weeks since they last led me to believe it was being handled, and 8 weeks since I alerted them to their shipping error. Yeah, I'm bitching about cds when worse stuff is going on, but I paid for them, and this isn't my first 2+ month wait for fulfillment on Dave's Picks volumes.

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...so I've listened to this gig like 3 or 4 times over the past week or so. It is amazing just how much Bruce adds to this show. In some instances, Jerry totally steps back and just lets Bruce rip on the leads all over the place. But that second set is pretty monumental as noted by others; I was particularly taken aback by the Corinna > Matilda sequence following the aforementioned Scarlet > Fire. Excellent Bruce embedded throughout and then inspiration carries into the start of drums with even more Brucey wailing away with Billy and Mickey for a bit.

It's shows like this that surprise without intention and consistently keep me turning over new stones in search of such gems.

Happy Holidays to All!

Sixtus

Thanks dude...although looking at the link, it appears this one is from March 19th 1995 in Philly, not the Bruce show. Nonetheless, a rarity is always appreciated!

FURTHERMORE, it also appears I was actually at this Philly Show; it's the same one when they busted out Unbroken Chain, and the place erupted. Scored tix in the lot from my housemate who at the time had some excellent green to trade and his efforts did not disappoint.

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....at least i get partial credit.

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I have not listened to it yet but am DLing it now. Although I DLed it a couple of days ago there was a problem with that torrent and now a "fixed" version is up today in both 16 and 24 bit. Happy New Years Eve to all here!

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JamBase has a neat and tidy package of the NYE shows between 1978 and 1991.

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You weren't kidding bigbrownie! A whole stash of entire NYE shows in video and good sound quality:
https://www.jambase.com/article/grateful-dead-new-years-eve-videos-gues…
What a score, thanks for the tip.

And among them is indeed the show I had referenced, how sweet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sMQyZLS7Jg&feature=emb_logo

Happy New Year indeed!
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...tumbeweeds 'round here in the New Year.

Nonetheless, here's to a positive outlook for '21 to all of those in Deadhead Land and beyond.
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This seems like a silly complaint in light of world events right now.

Still haven’t received my copy of Dave’s Picks 36 more than 2 months after it was supposed to ship. I changed my address in mixed October with Customer Service for which they acknowledged the address change but not only have I not received it to my new address but it didn’t arrive at the old address. I live in Hawaii on Oahu so not a far distance away from my old house who my friend owns. Customer Service finally answered my inquiry in early December and said a “replacement copy” was shipped. Now my emails are being completely ignored since late December. You’d think after faithfully ordering Dave’s Picks Subscriptions for 9 years running there’d be some kind of response. I hope everyone else got there copy and are enjoying it. I’m not really sure what to do at this point. Demand a refund? If anyone has experienced this let me know what I can do. Cheers and Happy New Year!

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