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    Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!

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  • Bamski
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    I am not really interested in politics and don't think this site should be a forum for political conversation. But that is niether her or there. I view John McCain as the best of the options likely to be on the ticket for President. I am interested in increased levels of defense spending, lower taxes for both corporations and individuals, smaller government, and the privatization of social security (which will likely never happen). Nonetheless, my vote really means nothing in liberal New York, where I just get my vote on the record and is not enough to put a Republican candidate over the top. Mr. Pid, you are correct when you say that the President gets too much credit and too much blame regarding the strength and weakness in the economy. Actually, the Federal Reserve probably plays a greater role in the health of the economy than the President does. This is something that is lost on most people. Just my quick 2 cent political rant.
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    I wouldn't purport to speak for Mr. Obama, but I would like to make a response to the thrust of Ms. Glick's piece. Given the target audience and venue of publication of her article, I can well understand her preoccupation with the import to Israel of the US Presidential election. While US foreign policy is certainly a relevant and germane issue, it is NOT the most ordinate one. The election of a US President is about what's best for the US, not what's best for Israel. Further, US policy towards the Arab and Muslim worlds hasn't exactly been a shining beacon of success and infusing some fresh perspectives there might produce a more constructive future for all, including Israel. As far as a President's ability to "lead" our economy, I think it's important to remember how the basic structure works. All money (i.e. spending) bills originate in the House of Representatives, and must pass muster in the Senate before being forwarded to the Executive branch for final authorization and implementation. The Executive branch has no power to introduce any spending plans of it's own. It is more than welcome, and usually does draft suggestions of what spending they would like to make, but it is the Legislature that actually creates the acts and laws that cause all government spending to occur. That's why I chuckle every time I read some rose colored glass filtered story about the economic prosperity of the Clinton administration. As though Mr. Clinton had anything to do with it. Does everyone remember who was running the Legislature in the 90's? Nevertheless, it is the common misconception that the President deserves the credit - or blame - for the relative success of what is basically a free market economy. In addition to electing a new President this November, every single seat in the House is also on the ballot, along with one third of the seats in the Senate. Just something to keep in mind. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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    I like Obama for his support of small buisness, but Id be cool with having just about anyone besides Bush in office. Nader would be cool too. yay cool moose party.
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    I'm ready to see some real unity in this country and to get back to a place where people around the world take us seriously again. The problem I see with all of these candidates is that non of them seem to have a strong stance on foreign relations.
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    Does he have the ability to lead this country out of it's current mess? Or will he behave like most Democrats and be afraid to govern? All his talk about change will go out the window when he fails in universal health care, aiding Kosovo, tuirniong the econonmy around. Remember, this country will expect quick results and when the country does not get the results can he handle the pressure?
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    that nasty Mr Obama, consorting with foreigners, getting dressed up foreigner outfits, knowing people who have radical views, taking an interest in different perspectives as to how things are and might be, not buying into the orthodoxy of the paranoid 'us (=US) and them' world view. Hell pretty soon we are going to hear that he was once mean to a puppy and went to a Dixie Chicks show.
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    I support Obama as any good Head with their eyes open can see Obama isa great man! All the negativity is amazing! If you are a SEER as are Bob, Phil snd Mickey we ALL saw the X factor in Obama- you can HEAR Truth in his voice just as you COULD HEAR IT in the DEAD. I was ASTOUNDED TO FIND MY BROTHERS all agreed enough to reunite- SOMETHING is Happening here and all the pro Israel pro war posters have lost touch. Feel the FORCE- OBAMA has it! WE ALL INDEPENDENTLY CAME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION! ASTOUNDING! LIKE- HEY THIS GUY IS DIFFERENT! Great work boys......and play like its your last GIG always! Black Peter is upon us all...... AUM Peachy!!! GO OBAMA! "if the Thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!"- The Wheel "Gonna find out something only dead men know" - Silvio Class of Red Rocks '79... Life without the Dead is not life...and so we carry on...
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    As a person that support Obama, I would like him to answer this.
    I find this disturbing, and have not seen any response to it. THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH Caroline Glick Jerusalem Post, January 21, 2008 …Barack Obama has a good chance of securing his party's nomination for president and winning the general election…. Although the rumors that Obama—whose father and step-father were Muslims and who was educated in Muslim schools in Indonesia—is a Muslim are demonstrably false, his Christian affiliations are a cause for alarm in and of themselves. Obama belongs to the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Its minister and Obama's spiritual adviser is Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. In an investigative report on Obama published last week by the American Thinker Web site, Ed Lasky documented multiple examples of Wright's anti-Jewish and anti-white animus. Wright has called for divestment from Israel and refers to Israel as a "racist" state. Theologically, he believes that the true "Chosen People" are the blacks. Indeed, he is a black supremacist. He believes that black values are superior to middle class American values and that blacks should isolate themselves from the wider American society. Wright is a long-time friend of the virulently anti-Semitic head of the Nation of Islam—fellow Chicagoan Louis Farrakhan. The two traveled together to Libya some years ago to pay homage to Muammar Gaddafi. Last year Wright presented Farrakhan with a "Lifetime Achievement" award…. Obama's affiliation with Wright aligns with his choice of financial backers and foreign policy advisors. To varying degrees, all of them exhibit hostility towards Israel and support for appeasing jihadists. As Lasky notes, Obama has received generous support from billionaire George Soros. In recent years, Soros has devoted himself to replacing politicians who support fighting the forces of global terror and supporting Israel with politicians who support appeasing jihadists and dumping Israel. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Obama opposed defining Iran's Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist group. He calls for the US to withdraw from Iraq - only to return if genocide is being carried out and then, only as part of an international force. He also supports opening negotiations with Iran even if the Iranians continue to enrich uranium. In forming these views, he is assisted by his foreign policy team which includes Zbigniew Brzezinski, Mark Brzezinski, Anthony Lake, Susan Rice and Robert Malley. All of these people are known either for their anti-Israel views or their pro-Arab views—or both. Malley, a Palestinian apologist invented and propagated the false claim that the 2000 Camp David summit between the Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat and then prime minister Ehud Barak failed because Israel wasn't serious about giving the Palestinians a state. This view is disputed by Barak and Clinton. For her part, as chief foreign policy advisor to Senator John Kerry during the 2004 presidential elections, Susan Rice reportedly convinced Kerry to announce that if elected he would appoint Jimmy Carter and James Baker to serve as his envoys for Middle East peace. Mark Brzezinski has openly called for unconditional negotiations with Iran. For more than 30 years, Zbigniew Brzezinski has distinguished himself as one of Israel's greatest foes in Washington. Unfortunately, in the anti-war frenzy now gripping much of the Democratic Party, one could say that there is nothing notable about the fact that Obama has hired anti-Israel foreign policy advisors, attends an anti-Israel church, and receives financial backing from anti-Israel billionaires. But even in this atmosphere Obama stands out—for not only does he theoretically support appeasement, he is actively advancing the interests of Islamists seeking to take control over a state allied with the US. [In] Kenya…elections pitted incumbent President Mwai Kibaki against Raila Odinga who leads the Orange Democratic Movement. While the polls showed the public favoring Odinga, Kibaki was declared the winner. Odinga rejected the results and his supporters have gone on rampages throughout the country that have killed some 700 people so far…. Kibaki is close ally of the US in the war against Islamic terror. In stark contrast, Odinga is an ally of Islamic extremists. On August 29 Odinga wrote a letter to Kenya's pro-jihadist National Muslim Leaders Forum. There he pledged that if elected he would establish Sharia courts throughout the country; enact Islamic dress codes for women; ban alcohol and pork; indoctrinate schoolchildren in the tenets of Islam; ban Christian missionary activities, and dismiss the police commissioner, "Who has allowed himself to be used by heathens and Zionists." Although Odinga is an Anglican, he referred to Islam as the "one true religion" and scorned Christians as "worshipers of the cross." Obama strongly supports Odinga who claims to be his cousin. As Daniel Johnson reported recently in the New York Sun, during his 2006 visit to Kenya, Obama was so outspoken in his support for Odinga that the Kenyan government complained to the State Department that Obama was interfering with the internal politics of the country. …. It can only be hoped that in the coming weeks and months ahead of the presidential election, the political center of American politics will reassert itself and that the final race will be between leaders who abjure bigotry and understand that foreign policy is neither about minding your business nor being polite. It is about opposing enemies, supporting allies and knowing the difference between them.
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    Obama has great pr, but I fear it is all an optical illusion.But before you hand him the keys to the store, try goggling Obama/Exelon. This guy is heavy in bed with nuclear, and that scares the shit out of me. And anyone else remember recent elections where you've been bombarded this heavily with how charismatic and charming the candidate is? Hell, they said Reagan was an orator. And Bush was the guy you wanted to have a beer with. I haven't seen much content from Obama, but I have seen a lot of spin, much of it painfully dishonest. I wish the band had stayed on the sidelines a little longer on this one.
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    Hey.. I created a Deadheads for Obama widget (sprout) using my new company's technology at http://sproutbuilder.com http://greenhouse.sproutbuilder.com/sprout/seed/FACwDX14AGFPBBwp You can also see updated versions at: http://sproutbuilder.com/deadheads Hope you all enjoy it and spread the word. peace, carnet
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Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It. So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic! And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!
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Hey Good ol GD-@ my granddaughter's (now 2 yrs old) baby shower, as "gifts" we were all given artwork by my grandson (he's 2 years older than her) & what did I GET???? the letter "F" in a glued on kid fashion piece of paper (still have it with pride)......OF course I immediately cracked up & started singing "GIVE ME AN F" to which my son, replied "mom, noone here is going to know what you're talking about" WHICH of course I educated the rest of the family about Country Joe McDonald, Vietnam chant, etc.......1 of the grandma's said something about the GD, SF & me & we all laughed...........Bet you're right on the Honest Abe also! We can all be proud Americans, no matter who wins the election, better here, than anywhere else, no matter how unhappy we are about our politics, regimes, etc....xoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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Gypsy, thats pretty funny I like that, pretty ironic. I am proud to be an American and love my country, where else can you have so much FUN. Though I do or have done alot of things I don't completely agree with, for people I can't stand in many far away lands. I do it for all of us. So that others can live free and enjoy singing F songs and growing hair and go to shows.Able to Speak out against the madness. I'm really not political though it does affect my life greatly right now our situation worldwide isn't going to change overnight. Have you really ever seen some kind of drastic change or bettering by who was president. Mostly bad things come to mind but seems to be the way. Maybe some Americans just don't know how good they have it. Even the poor and homeless have it better than some others in the world. Old men sing about their dreams, Women laugh and children scream, And the band keeps playing on
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A tweak on Merle Haggard's "Proud to be an Okie from Muskogee".........I agree Good ol GD-change is slow........Hopefully being homeless & poor here is better than overseas in the 3rd worlds, except with the possibilities of our Native American reservations-they are still the poorest in the land (except the ones that have gotten the casinos going on-they got it better) I'm thinking of the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota in particular is supposedly the lowest income in our nation.......xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl......YEH! GIVE ME AN "F"...........What's that spell????? xoxoxo
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just realized & read your thing on "Introducing Ourselves" that you're the paratrouper in the Army.....now I see what you meant on the above post......my hubby is a Vietnam Vet from the Navy..........xoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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I meant "I'm Proud to be a Gypsy Cowgirl" from San Francisco..........xoxox
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Here's some more for ya Gypsy "I don't how we're gonna stop the war if you can't sing any louder than that, let me hear it And it's 1-2-3-what are we fighting 4, don't ask me I don't give a damn next stop is land of sand, and it's 5-6-7 open up the Baghdad g8s, just hope we're ain't to late, 15 month's thank's to Bobby Gates, be the first one your block to get blown up by a bomb in a box. What do you think next career in music? Gotta be humorous helps with long tours. Really gotta remember that I might just have something. I have a friend back home who was Navy, a Seabee in Vietnam Wish I was a headlight, on a northbound train
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yes, Good ol GD-husband was in the SeaBees in Vietnam, division of the Navy, I'm told.......& please, remember, I grew up on these lyrics......but, thanks......"what are we fighting for?" the eternal question, I suppose.....since the beginning of timelike your change of lyrics...can apply to anywhere! "This land is your land, this land is my land From California, to the New York Island From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters This land was made for you and me" words & music by Woody Guthrie xxooxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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Gypsy. I know you know those lyrics I put them out there cause I thought you would appreciate them and hope it put a smile on your face. I gonna do a full version. Even printed off the guitar chords for it. Of course where I am no one has a clue who Country Joe is or even Garcia. Anyway I learned "This land" when I was in kindergarten. I wonder if it is still taught in schools today. My son goes to school in in Italy to Italian school so he can't answer the question. Your patriotism is inspirational, keep on truckin. Nothingleft to do but smile smile smile.
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John McCain's plane TO Pennsylvania WAS - shot down - by friendly (self) fire...pretty funny story - I recommend reading that Rolling Stone article. Funny (but very sad) stuff. To whomever it was that called Obama "Anti-Life": ...That's a complete and utter LIE. Do some fact-checking before you believe every handout from the RNC you get and post it on here (whoever it was that said it). Barack Obama is far from perfect. I wouldn't want to vote for someone who claimed to be perfect. He's got the best plan. Period. ~ Pappy "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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Check out the last three verses we aren't taught in school, below is the address. Strong stuff. Thank you Woody. Country Joe who was mentioned with the Fish yell in the above posts did a tribute record for Woody consisting of his songs. I think it was his first post CJ and the Fish record. http://www.woodyguthrie.org/Lyrics/This_Land.htm If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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i'll look into that pappy....thanx fer yer input.....did i leave my keys in here?
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and pls don't put johnman and anti-life in the same sentence.......someone might mis-construe.........found my keys......seen my lighter?
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Hal Ichecked out that Guthrie site, yea pretty strong stuff thanks bro.
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Husband last night brought it to my attention that the lyrics to "Jack Straw from Wichita-GUNNED HIS BUDDY DOWN!" We should now probably change that to 'COSMIC CHARLIE FOR PRESIDENT" He's much more on our side than a gun-slinger-even being the cowgirl I am.........xoxoxox Gypsy Cowgirlps-CC's Back-CAN YOU CHANGE IT???? I haven't learned yet!! Oy, forgive me
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Gypsy Cowgirl... It's actually "Cut his buddy down." So, you're safe. Jack Straw, seemingly is a knife murderer, not a gunman! So, that should make things better!! ;) http://www.hunterarchive.com/files/HandwrittenLyrics/JackStraw.html ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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Really? Geez-is our hearing going? (must be) Sometimes it really sounds like, "gunned his buddy down"......thanks, wait til I tell husband! Maybe I should've googled the lyrics? either way-COSMIC CHARLIE FOR PRESIDENT! haha......Gypsy Cowgirl
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Did you check out that link? Pretty cool - handwritten by Hunter while writing "Jack Straw". There are TWO other lines that my buddies always used to sing incorrectly in that song: 1) MY FRIENDS: "Gotta settle one horse score" REALLY: "Gotta settle one old score" 2) MY FRIENDS: "Half a mile from Tucson by the borderline" REALLY: "Half a mile from Tucson by the morning light" Obama / Biden '08/'12 ;) ~ Pappy "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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ps-just to let ya know, I've actually done this "leavin' Texas fourth day of July"........after a Willie Nelson 4th of July picnic......xoxox Gypsy Cowgirlhusband says, YES-our hearing has been going for some time now! Oy! too much loud R'n R when we were younger............
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apparently mccain's third crash was due to "engine failure" a flame out. tried reignition 3 times with no luck cuz he forgot to switch to his backup battery....his own damn fault, sure, but he was'nt "shot down". may i have a cookie now?....or some cake? huh? pls? can i? huh?
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I got it from the link-it didn't go through the 1st time, since I had left off the "l" on the htm part..........DUH.........cool! thanks! COSMIC CHARLIE FOR PRESIDENT Obama/Biden in the meantime...........Gypsy Cowgirl
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Jack Straw is a Bobby tune and could have been sang god knows how. Not being critical I like when Bob misses a beat or forgrts lyrics, changes for whatever reason, Throwing Stones is great example. The whole GD improv live thing man gotta love it. Yea Cosmic Charlie teamed up with Tommy Chong gets my vote. The madness never stopped
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I'm talking about the accounts of July 29, 1967 aboard the Forrester. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_r… Too much. The worst part is how he cowers from the fire, rather than helps. I thought the old man did well for the first 30-45 minutes or so in last night's debate, but he simply loses his cool when he realizes he's not getting under Obama's skin. One is ready to lead, the other is ready to have a caniption. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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thanks for your research, Johnman on the plane/McCain thing.......find your lighter yet??? Let's hope it's a landslide for Obama........I don't know if I could stand another 4-8 years of the way it is now. (I do have Canadian relatives, ya know).......How's middle America doing behind Obama? (& for that matter the deep south?) Will have to look @ this link on July 29, 1967.................COSMIC CHARLIE & TOMMY CHONG! what a team! That might wreck Nancy Regan's "just say no" campaign........but I'm hoping she was talking the real BAD stuff........xoxox Gypsy Cowgirl
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"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom""And that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." Quote from Gettysburg Address, by Abraham Lincoln Nov. 19, 1863 POWER TO THE PEOPLE!.......xoxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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that's a word ya don't hear often. my boot camp company commander was part of the flight deck crew when the fire started and told us many stories. he was on the second fire team to attack the blaze and saw the team in front of his obliterated when the burning fuel under mccains aircraft exploded the bomb that had been jarred from his aircraft by the explosion of the zuni rocket hitting the plane next to his. there were holes blown in the flight deck, allowing burning fuel to pour down in to hangerbay where, by reports, mccain was helping enlisted men jettison un-exploded ordnance out the hanger bay doors so it would'nt cook off by the excessive heat. mebbe he should have stayed on the roof, i dunno. we're trained to leave the scene once properly equipped personnel arrive on scene or when the on-scene leader orders it, whichever comes first. there may have been more he could have done on the flight deck....we'll never know. it was a tragic accident that cost many young lives. the films of the fire and subsequent attempts to control it are now used to train young recruits on proper firefighting tecniques. many mistakes were made that day. the forrestal did recover from her wounds to sail again. guess i went off on a tangent.....he still was'nt shot down.
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He was shot down - just accidentally. My whole point to McCain is that he's not this incredibly brave, Patton-esque supersoldier hero everyone thinks he is. That whole artice (10 pages long, btw Gypsy) is fantastic information and it shows his true colors. A Navy brat who has a VERY long history of making VERY poor decisions. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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I gotta quell the rumors that have been flying around, I am NOT Joe the Plumber! ( -: I'm CC Joe, the Cheeze Wiz! peace.
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I'm glad you guys enjoyed the R. Stone article. I read it one day in Barnes and Noble when I was gettin a paper to find a job.uugg.Anyway I wasn't startin s_it,just wanted to help Obama along. I didn't live in Fl during the last election but I don't want to be one of those deadheads Bobby was talking about(at the show).Hey Ted if I see one of those bumperstickers,I'll let you know. Thanks Hal R for the link.So who will be in the Cabinet...big prizes for the correct guess..........drumz>space
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Great question, billdrumz!!! Sec of State - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton? Al Gore? Sen. Dick Luger? Sec of Defense - Sen. Jim Webb? Gen. Wesley Clark? I would really put HRC as the next Supreme Court Justice, actually. ~ Pappy "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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and as i have said before i'm not for or against either candidate....but if an aircraft is not "up in the air" but "parked on the flight deck" it cannot be "shot down" and the missile in question did not hit his aircraft, although he said it did, anyway pappy i have found your posts informative and interesting, thank you for your time.
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CC's Back is Joe the Plumber in disquise....don't let him fool you......just kidding CC... Oh, I once knew a Hog Farmer that went by the name of Chee-Wiz....Are you related? She was a nurse, I think.........don't worry, Pappy, I can't stand to look @ McCain......& like my 92 yr old mom said about our current pres (with his 73% dis-approval rate according to the news last night) after his re-election/theft/ "God, I have to look @ his face again?" I said-don't look.............. xoxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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Oh, it was actually "I have to look @ his ### face" she was cussing.......GC
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and to think all i wanted was a little cake........or a cookie.....sigh!
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Johnman-go git yer cookie & make sure it's the Alice B. Toklas type..........xoxoxo Gypsy Cowgirl
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jeez!...... wot kind didja think i wanted anywayz? mebbe made wif a little "special" butter? heehee
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She was born Alice Babette Toklas in San Francisco, California-April 30, 1877 – March 7, 1967........Wow, now we're completely off the titled subject.....oh, well.....sorry Mary E.........xoxoxo Gypsy CowgirlONLY S.F. could have Alice B. Toklas & the GD to their name! I'm so proud to be from here for many generations, actually! Yee-Haw....
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THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY BOTH PARTIES!NOT ONLY THAT-- it is POLITICALLY CORRECT!! While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Stephen at the entrance. 'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Stephen. 'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.' 'No problem, just let me in,' says the man. 'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.' 'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the senator. 'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.' And with that, St. Stephen escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne. Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly & nice guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises... The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Stephen is waiting for him. 'Now it's time to visit heaven.' So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Stephen returns. 'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.' The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.' So St. Stephen escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above. The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't understand,' stammers the senator. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?' The devil looks at him, smiles and says, 'Yesterday we were campaigning.. .. Today you voted.
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People are saying that Barrack's middle name is actually "Hussien" or however you spell it. So, that would make him Barrack Hussien Obama. Osama and Obama sound almost alike to me. Am I crazy? We supposedly dont have a copy of his birth certificate. Was he born in the U.S. If everyone wants change. What kind of change are we going to have. If the U.S. changes, it could get even worse. I'm thinking about Russia and how it is over there now. I see alot of crazy stuff about Russia online. Or whatever the country is called now. Are we going to have terroist attacks after the election. Are the terroists that are still out there going to test the new president. Whoever it is. Are there even terroists still out there? Is the new president going to take action or is he just going to let it happen or is he not going to know what to do. If the terroists attack, should we just sit around and let it happen? They drove planes into the world trade center. Does that matter? Do we even care if we are attacked. I used to be a bleeding heart liberal mainly because of the environment and a peaceful planet would be nice, but does it seem like Barrack really gives a crap about that stuff? Yes, hes a democrat, it really doesnt seem like he is gonna do much of anything except let the country fall to pieces. Does that mean that the world is going to be in a blissful state of happiness, where I get mine and we brought the man down? As you can see I'm not much of an Obama fan. I think he is likely to make it much worse. Sure he can bring about change but, I fear it is a change for the worst.
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That there seems to be people getting on this site just to say some very mean things and to redbait and now to make statements about Obama and Islam and terrorism. People are getting on and there first posts are anti- Obama and that is all they post about. They do not write anything about themselves in the bio section or how many shows they went to, etc.. Not that people need to do that but these posters never do. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Do yourself a favor, Danny C. Put the stereotypes away and go visit (as I just advised someone else to do) www.snopes.com and put "Obama" in the search bar. You'll find all the ridiculous myths that you are apparently clinging to, put to rest and proven false - with sources. AFTER you do that, you may want to read his PLAN FOR CHANGE which is available on his website: www.barackobama.com . Read it. I'm not saying you will vote for him, but if you want to know what he actually plans to do with this country, rather than believe the fear and smear you are prone to believing, you should simply read what he wants to do (and how he wants to do it - paying for everything). FYI - his birth certificate is here: http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/Polarik/BO_Birth_Certificate.j… The link from where I got THAT is here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp ALSO, check THIS out: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp Do some actual reading, before believing all the crap you're spouting (apparently heard on right-wing radio/tv or read on emails). No offense - but bring SOMETHING to the table. ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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Pappy / Hal agreed think that the above has targeted the wrong audience, sounds like that person themselves should run a campaign. I like this forum cause there are some interesting discussions not a bunch of FU statements. There are many that only discuss pro's and cons of each or stating thier opinion on who the support but not in a FU manner. Maybe that dude should come join me for a year-15 month's if he's worried about terrorist's and insurgents. Hal bro also agree on your Bios statement, I like checking them out. Wonder if this is one of those guys who goes to shows and leaves trash everywhere. FYI mines Deadhead Paratrooper on intro's. I want to load some cool pics I got too, like on Haight street and at Red rocks but I gotta dig em out and scan them when I get home there was no digital cams at that time. Cause on the net it's like a blind date. And espcially here check peoples stuff, say wow man I was at that show or been there etc. Internet question? Anyone ever thought about what DSL is backwords. Hey Pappy checked out you site, listened to some GDTRFB, sweet, sounds really good. if I'm ever going through Pitt I be sure to look for you all. Strangers stopping strangers just to shake their hands.
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Is broadband for your brain! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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XYZ PDQ!!! quid pro quo?? huh? ok, I'll go back to being CC eoj never been a plumber, though I was a 'joint fitter' from time to time. peace.
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Thanks guys, maybe the internet is really not the best place to talk about that kinda stuff. See-ya later, Dan
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but didn't really think about it as i don't always check profiles....mebbe i should start...no matter the candidate, mean spirited posts just don't belong....thanx hal!!
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You keep after those villains for us, eh?********************************** Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live. Samuel Clemens
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Thank you, Good Ol' GD - glad you liked it. We've got some pretty good vids up, too from this past summer (if you check out the "links" page on our website). Thank you for all you do, bro. Lemme know if ever you come to the 'Burgh. Thanks to you too, Hal!! Check THIS out for something funny...(well, actually kinda sad).... http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud18-2008oct18,0,1216330.sto… Figures, eh? ~ Pappy www.theCAUSEjams.com "Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places, if you look at it right." - Robert Hunter
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There's a good picture on of ol John having a heart attack in Stars and Stripes today 21 Oct. page 8. Itried to copy for everyone but it won't let me. Just google the paper and open it.