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This is a known balancing act. Spam posts and obvious malfunctions (like six of the same post) aside, I've probably deleted a couple of posts a year on average and tend to deal with them pretty individually. In some situations, posting a notice that a comment's been removed functions more or less to pour gasoline on the flames, which is suboptimal. If you notice a post of yours disappearing, let me know. Sometimes they get stuck in a moderation queue for no apparent reason; the anti-spam filter is doing a pretty good job of keeping spam away, but it guesses wrong sometimes. Thanks.

Please stop with the insult-slinging. TOS aside, it's not exactly the civility for which Dead Heads are usually notable. It would be quite remarkable for any two Dead Heads to agree on everything; I've sure never seen it. Multiply that by about two million, and it becomes a matter of getting along, not figuring out ways to beat up/gang up on the people you don't agree with about something that would seriously mystify an outside observer. If Dead.net has done you wrong, send me a PM. If you and someone else really want to carry on your feud, take it offline. Thank you. And now, back to the Shrine.

This is one freaking hot show, whether on vinyl or CD or any other format. Listen to the music play.

Interesting point was noted Seth, The Doors 3LP set (RSD2016 release) is priced at $35 - live show from 60's. Double the price of Grateful Dead Shrine show. What gives ? Both are limited, Doors actually more limited (5,000) copies. And its physically numbered, what a concept Rhino has take this approach with other releases and constantly excludes Limited edition numbering from packaging on numerous GD vinyl releases. That is my number 1 complaint !!!!! Both Shrine and the Doors show are available in other formats, so it's not like the GD Shrine show is exclusive to vinyl, which in my opinion would make it cost more. So it's pretty obvious the folks at Rhino think the Grateful Dead stuff commands a higher price tag even without some of the bells and whistles the other products almost always have. Other comparisons can be made - these are other Rhino releases that will come out for RSD Monkees have a 10LP set for RSD priced at $135,, lol I think it was last year the Spring 90 Branford show was at like $130 in some places,, and that was a 5 LP with one side as an etching. The pricing on that one was so whacky Fleetwood Mac - Studio album - 2LP -$35 Grateful Dead - 30 Trips 1977 show - 4LP - $80 I'm sure I could pull a bunch more examples, but it appears as if the GD stuff Rhino has a hand in is there crown jewel and they are not parting with it for cheap.

Let's see something NEW next RSD.

Glad they're releasing it, don't get me wrong. I just wish it was something I didn't already have from Boxzilla.

If the cost of the Shrine record, which is a 3 record set, costs the same as 3 records from any other band, how are they screwing faithful customers? The Shrine set works out to 23 bucks a disc. I checked 4 bands on the website listed below (soundstagedirect), and they're all 25 - 30 bucks for 1 disc: The Who / Who's Next (1LP) $34.99 Rolling Stones / Sticky Fingers $24.99 Led Zeppelin IV / $24.99 The Beatles / Sgt. Pepper $22.99 The price of these 1 LP classics average $27, and you multiply by 3 (because the Shrine show is a 3 LP set), you get $81, which is $11 MORE than the Shrine set. How is this a rip-off? What should the price be? 180 gram vinyl is this price everywhere.

One of mine was deleted last week by MaryE. She informed me by PM, but it would be nice if some record of the deletion appeared in the comment thread. Reading the last few messages here made me think of that.Perhaps the original comment entry could remain, but with the comment content replaced by "Comment removed by moderator" or some similar message. The previous times I have followed threads where comments were deleted, the threads became disjointed and confusing. Revising the comment deletion process to leave a footprint would help maintain clarity...

My point was that it is bad business. Its bad business to constantly screw the faithful customers.But you know I'm kind of glad they are doing what they do because after you don't get the first big box its easier to keep saying no to high cost and find alternatives. But to your comment - what is it that you truly love that is getting dragged through the mud because of there is a price tag? It can't be the reasonable sustaining live and let live commerce of the old dead scene - thats not here It can't be the "for the people" rep of the band - yeah thats definitely no more So is it the music itself. Ok yeah thats getting dragged through the mud but not by me or others who criticize the PTB, its the PTB themselves who have chosen to charge a ridiculous price tag (compare the same product here and say Amazon, or even other Rhino releases), create limited editions, refuse to restock and resell rights to other makers who will then charge higher prices (dicks picks). Doing all of this because they know they can prey upon the attachment a deadhead has to the music and desire to get the best quality of what they love. Why would you defend that? Why not at least express disdain for the way they are doing business so hopefully one day when the purchasing volume goes down they can make some concessions? Hey you have your opinion - thats cool, not going to be hypocritical. But that doesn't allow you to go after anyone else who has a different opinion- especially in a nasty little way. Man the snarkyness is off the hook. I was being rude too and am sorry that I succumbed to that. Difference of opinion is good and getting others thoughts is good and can keep you from being blinded while you are getting screwed by a corporation. If that doesn't interest you and think everything is good here, fine - what did Zappa say? Keep it greasy...

Mine says made in USA and isn't warped sorry to burst your bubble. And who said anything about erasing comments? MaryE often gets on and tells people to play nice... In my 4 years of being on here, I've very rarely seen her delete comments and they were a lot worse than your pathetic rants. I like how you assume things to further provoke a ridiculous argument. whatever helps you sleep at night, i guess and for all I care, she can delete my comments...because people like you bring out the worst in people like me, people who are so nauseous from stupidity its impossible to sit idly by and have something they deeply love be dragged through the mud just because there is a price tag. parasite of greed? Seriously? Its just a business, plain and simple.