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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • September 27, 2021 - 6:34pm
    DeadVikes
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    Watch out OB

    Yes, watch out Oroborous, 1-2!

  • September 27, 2021 - 6:34pm
    JimInMD
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    Hundred Year Hall

    Holy Crap... it was that long ago? Two comments.. I am old and Garcia has been gone a long time now.

    Thanks USam.. Agree, one of the best releases... ever. The whole show is great and that transition from Lovelight into GDTRFB is super special.

  • September 27, 2021 - 3:02pm
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    yesterday Hundred Year Hall was released. What a great recording, the art work for this release was and is out of sight and the liner notes by Hunter are just exactly perfect. So I am recommending it even though it is not a complete show, it still sounds mighty good. Of course you can hear the entire show if you bought the steamer trunk.

  • September 27, 2021 - 2:01pm
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    Totally

    Yeah, 81 was the last time they played there, never played the “the MA”, (until post JG) the venue that replaced the old Aud
    The Aud was one of those old war memorials that were everywhere, and especially up and down I 90, a big nasty drafty old place. Think they only played at the Aud 5 times? Twice in 73, and once in 77, 79, and 81? Hell, they didn’t play Buffalo much until Rich stadium...Starting in 86, they did five shows at “the Ralf” as known to locals, aka Rich Stadium. But I think only like 12 times total, if you count the legendary 3/17/70 philharmonic show! I’d give up my front seat in hell for a Beatty of that one!
    Earl of Bud was always a smile! Bet Angry Jack knows of Earl from both the Aud and the MA.
    I’ll take it as a sign since this show keeps popping up on “official” channels!
    Hey, Hendrixfreak doesn’t get to be the only one lobbying for @ shows lol!

  • September 27, 2021 - 1:39pm
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    Dave 9/26/81

    Dave was hyping up 9/26/81 for TIGDH. He was speaking generally about the venue.. that he had never seen the Dead there but had seen several hockey games at the same arena. ..and the Earl of Bud dancing. Does that make more sense?

    Got my only On the Road Again at my first show a few months later in Baltimore.

  • September 27, 2021 - 11:31am
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    Go Vikes!

    Lol, glad they won!
    Glad y’all dug 9/26/81! ...glad we’ve been digging the 81/91 pre 71 cleanse.
    I sorta remember something about BJ and the Europe 81 tapes, but was it the spring, or the longer and more well known fall Europe tour? Hmmm, have to research that one since slacker GOGD isn’t here to do it for us LOL.
    We miss ya buddy!

    This was my sixth show, (over span of almost 3 years, later I’d routinely tag that many in one tour lol)
    It was perhaps the only time I attended a show that was part of a social gathering (I can even remember most of the bars we went to after), and the first time not in prime seating location.
    Though we had decent seats: right side, up and back probably half way: I’d been fortunate to see 2 Front row, 2 third row, and ? probably 10-15 rows back on the floor for 11/9/79, so this was a big difference and sorta distraction, not that I would be able to understand that then. I just knew it sucked not being close up!
    Yep, Jim, Klondike Keek, and I, better know then collectively as the Booze Brothers, with Milton Wikelberry Steamer III, Tammy M, aka Buzz Kitten, and a couple of the Gates brothers that hung with Milty...perhaps more?
    So I remember On the Road Again (my only one) as Reckoning was new and in heavy rotation, and I know I loved it, but back then our knowledge of all things Dead wasn’t like now with Net and deadbase etc. so it was just sorta another Dead show. Over the years I had kinda forgot about it, and when I finally did hear it back a couple years, it was only a superficial treatment. I think late at night at a party on a shitty smart speaker?
    But my cousin kept telling me how Dave and Blitz kept playing it or parts here and there and seemed hot on it, so I’ve been wanting to catch up with it, and have been planing on it for a while. So of course the day comes, and I was hoping to get a nice mellow Sunday morning listen with some coffee, and when the weed is just right and hasn’t taken over the conversation for the day yet,...but, well, shit happens lol.
    So long story short it’s gettin on late afternoon, so ended up watching football before, which long story, was a bad tactical error lol, so when I did hear it I was sorta wrecked, definitely burnt after afternoon beer buzz etc, so needless to say THAT run through wasn’t productive lol.
    But got up today and have been quite digging on it this beautiful AM!
    So come on Dave, bring it! Ha!

    BLUCROW: still laughing/smiling over that Weirwolf story and the vendor...Think many of us have had a similar experience! Great stuff eh! Sounds like we were at many of the same front range shows back 96-05! Good Times fo sho!

    JIM: I’m confused? You mentioned Dave speaking on XM? about 9/25/91, and Earl of Bud etc,?
    Earl of Bud, Earl Patterson Howze Jr, was a fan favorite and staple at many Buffalo events for decades. He was a Beerman but wore this white tux and did the pee-wee big shoe dance during breaks in the game etc. he became quite a local celebrity over the years...id lynx if I could, ahem...
    So if 9/25/91 was in Boston, which is a rink with a despicable lol, but pretty good hockey team ; ) but Earl was in Bu fa falo, I’m confused? Perhaps Dave was discussing 9/26/81, again...?, which gives me hope! Lol, see, it’s always about getting shows released!
    Rural West Viginny, yasss sir that there is pretty country, just keep an eye out for that random banjo music ; )
    Sounds awesome, git yer paddle on Bra! Boo yah!
    ONWARD

    perhaps 10/28/91? Kinda burnt, maybe later...

    Still have 3 spring 81, the last 3 Oakland October 91, and 4/1/91, and Blucrows 80 suggestions....yeeshk
    Well, if the box comes on time, sorta?, then these outta keep us busy till then!
    Hope y’all get yers sooner than later!

    PS, if you haven’t checked out 9/26/91 ya should!

  • September 27, 2021 - 7:43am
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    9/26/81

    Yes, bring us some more 81!
    Took a crack at this show yesterday. What a show to be at Oroborous. The first set recording that is available needs some work, but yes I agree the second set Healy that is available sounds much better. You would have to think he has quite a few recordings of his own that will continue to drip out.

  • September 27, 2021 - 6:50am
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    Release The Hounds

    Ha.. serendipitous. They played the post space part of 9/25 on TIGD History yesterday on SiriusXM. Dave got into quite the tangent on the venue, hockey and the guy called The Earl of Bud that got rowdy at hockey games and danced to the Tequila song whenever they had faceoffs...

    I was up early and gone all day driving into some of the more remote areas in Southern WV for some river fun.. what a beautiful state, had a blast.. so I had a lot of time in the truck to listen to music and out the door at 7am brought me to the later half of the second set. ..but it only had the Playing Reprise.

    I was in the truck 12 hours later and got a relisten, so I hit the full second set when I got back. Sweet second set, plus there's a pretty good Miller update that came out somewhat recently. Double Sweet.

    I guess I will have to hit the first set today. Great pick guys.. nice early show Oro (I think that came somewhat early in your show seeing days??).

    Onward.. have a great week all. Fall has arrived here in the mid atlantic.

  • September 26, 2021 - 5:32pm
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    9/26/81 - oh yeah!!

    Oro - a great pick made even better that you were there. A sweet listen end to end. It was that very rare Sunday morning when I'm up in the work space and it was a perfect show to stream. Must say, like about every drummers birthday riff, Bob is totally making it up as to Chuck Berry's birthday. I'd love to ask him about that made-up birthday thing he's got - he was trotting it out all the freaking time.

    Gotta hope that the first set is in the vault in well-recorded entirety . Great songs, excellent and spirited playing. full throttle Shakedown > CC Rider to start. Oh my goodness. V Guy has his Cumberland thing. My "thing" is a slightly more expansive. Not just Cumberland, but Brown-Eyed Women, Peggy-O, and Jack-a-Roe(!!). Big Railroad. Me and Bobby McGee. This show has both Brown-Eyed and Jack-a-Roe, plus (added bonus) On the Road Again. Before 8/7/82 my youngest brother (#1 son counting backwards) said he wanted to hear On the Road Again. I said no way they're playing that. You bet, they played it.

    That pre-drumz second set has got to be unique. The transitions from Bertha > Estimated and Estimated > Going Down The Road are pretty B/W, as is GDTR > drums, all very cool in the energy shift. Love the tone on circa '81 Not Fades (just wish they'd jammed it out a bit more.) Bobby has a tiny misstep trying to bring back the NFA chorus. But Jerry is all focused on Morning Dew, not that it's immediately evident, but no big deal Bob.

    Given an earlier comment I made, the portion of the show available from Healy's cassette master sounds pretty damn good.

    Dave L. - release the hounds, I mean, release this show ;)

  • September 26, 2021 - 6:56am
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    9/26/81

    9/26/81 - all in!!

    glancing at set list night before that and there's something I've never seen - a Sugar Mag / Sunshine Daydream sandwich post drums. '80 and '81 are filled with great shows and it would have helped if Betty had been at the helm recording a whole bunch of them on reels (cue picky deadhead comment).

    DeadVikes - trust me the Midwest is still the land of my childhood heart. I know you're back there but was thinking you were somewhere a bit north of Chi-Town?

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....between Four Winds and myself. Middle of TN Jed. I'm staring straight at that Morning Dew like a headlight on a northbound train.

What a release Jim, thanks for this pick. I am with Daverock on this one, might be one of the best releases.

I shied away from this one forever, because it was not a complete show. What a huge mistake that was.

Sound quality is A++. If Dave's 34 sounds anything like this we are in for a huge treat.

The China Rider is awesome. Two unreal Eyes. Yes, That Loose Lucy is really good. How about that Morning Dew. WRS, Truckin! All top notch stuff.
To the great soul that turned me on to this release, this one is for you!

Tommorow, we hit up FourWinds pick, From Egypt with Love!

Be well folks!

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....features an If I Had The World To Give. A top five song that I wish they played more often. The others?
Gentlemen, Start Your Engines (saw one and it was pretty cool)
Brother Esau (never saw one)
Built To Last (tough lyrics. I get it. Saw two)
Clementine (nada)
France (saw three. In dreams).
Dead & Co brought back World To Give. And they were pretty nice.

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On the waterproof shuffle, WOS Road Trips. Both shows are excellent as is the sound. 6/16 highlights for me are China>Rider (powerful), Race is On (one of the better versions, sometimes in these electric versions the vocals are all over the place.. this one is a ok), a monster Eyes (more on this later) and nice Big River and a monster PITB.

Excellent

But 6/18 delivers the goods. One of the all-time Eyes>China Dolls. The performance and transition flawless, poweful and seamless. A jazz masterpiece. I think the version on the GD Movie (10/19?) is more popular and certainly sounds better.. but on the movie soundtrack, they cut and edited out one of the jams. I think the transition from 6/18 is better, and it's my favorite. Not a wasted note or chord, everything on purpose and just exactly right. but I am biased. A high water mark.

WRSuite, TOO, I Know It's a Sin, Stella Blue, and perhaps the best Morning Dew of the period rounds out the release. There is a bit of mayhem but it works.. just be patient. I have gotten used to the I know it's a Sin jam and when I listen to it.. I fill in the words. Powerful stuff. A potent part of the set.

Too bad it's a chop job, but it's a great release.. also, to my ears, this was the show where Jeffrey Norman went from Jeffrey the Grey to Jeffrey the White. This was about the period when he really stepped up his game to wizard status. This sounds (to me) head and antlers above the best copies on the archive. Working directly from the Master Reels and by this point in his career having acquired quite the bag of tricks makes a big difference.

That's all I have. Also.. I was remiss last night asking for more time for the new 74 release. There is a whole other place for that on the Dave's Picks thread. We should keep this the way it is. I like the idea of 5/2/70 on it's birthday and I hope someone brings up the 5/15/70 road trips as well.

Edit: Thank goodness they deemed whitewater kayaking as an acceptable social distance sport.. but the shuttles in the truck are a bit taboo.. but not if you bike the shuttle, which just gives you a little extra alone time to grove to the GD.

On it for Saturday. Good idea Strider, Jim and Vguy.

Vguy, interesting you bring up "If I had the world to give", I used to sing this song to my daughter when she was really young.

Okay, never thought I would post that but you brought it up.

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?
If I had a song to sing, I'd sing it to you
As long as you live, lullaby or maybe a plain serenade
Wouldn't you laugh, dance, and cry or be afraid at the change you made
I may not have the world to give to you
But maybe I have a tune or two
Only if you let me be your world
Could I ever give this world to you
But I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give,
I will give what love I have to give, long as I live.
If I had a star to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you have the time
To watch it shine, watch it shine
Or ask for the moon and heaven too? I'd give it to you.
Well maybe I've got no star to spare, or anything fine or even rare,
Only if you let me be your world, could I ever give this world to you.
Could I ever give this world to you....
....why they only played this live four or five times is beyond me. The lyrics remind me of Attics Of My Life. Which, incidentally, is a song I sung for my son when he was really young.
They brought that one back, to much rejoicing.

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A good time to check the mail. Got a package from Bolo24, CIA.

Gonna let it sit for the required time.. just in case it self destructs or something.

What a hoot. Thanks Bolo.

For what it's worth.. to wide awake to sleep.. youtube is serenading me with the acoustic set of 10/31/80. Works for me.

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That is cool Vguy! This band sure brings us all the emotions.

What we all wouldn't give right now to hear, "We will be back in just a little bit, so everybody hang loose." Man, I am trying real hard to hang loose.

Spill the beans Jim, what did Bolo send you for winning the contest?

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Great idea. Count me in. Extra credit for the NRPS set.

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I've got the New Riders set.. I will do my best to send it as Alac or Flac to anyone interested. Just PM me.

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If I had the world to give, I'd give it to you
Long as you live, would you let it fall, or hold it all in your arms?

I guess we all know the answer. Sorry had to say it!

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You ever listen to the 10/17/78 version that is not on the bonus disc. If you haven't during space right before If I had the World to Give, you can hear a woman say to Jerry "I want to take banjo lessons" He responds that he doesn't do that anymore... bob t

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What a great show! Love the acoustic set . Garcia says something about demon rum right before Dire Wolf.

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Mark me down for it.

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You saw a lot of great shows!!! P.S. You will never believe it is raining in Rhode Island again!! Be good everyone bob t

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Winterland October 1978

Can any one or TPTB tell me why we can't get all 5 shows released like June '76 box??

Thanks.

PS, Wouldn't be funny if this was the fall box set to be released Oct 6 according to LMG.

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Bob T, I didn't make it to this show, I went to the shows on Oct 20 and 21. My brotther told me about this incident with the girl and the banjo lessons. Garcia used to give banjo lessons when he worked at Swain's House of Music down in Palo Alto, my brother knows a couple of guys who took banjo lessons from Garcia back in the early 60s.

I don't teach anymore..

How cool is that? Nice call Bob T and cool story BTK!

WOS Rocked me yesterday, both 6/16 & 6/18 were so great to hear again.
I am fully pumped now for the Jai-Alai Fronton Release.
Can't Wait and well executed stoke you good pickers you.

Waited until later in the day, to get the full effect, and it was wonderful.

The Eyes > China Doll & WRS > TOO > It's A Sin > Stella is such an incredible trip to take.

And having read your posts I knew what was coming all day, and the magic part, even with that and having heard the show many times in the past, I couldn't wait and was excited when they broke into Morning Dew and it is EPIC, better than I'd remembered.

And that's what this trip is all about!!

6/18/74 - Eyes, WRS & Morning Dew up there with best evers.

Alright set the time machine for Winterland October 1978 you say?!?!

Right away!

Had to start with If I Had The World To Give after that sweet serenade last night courtesy of you all.

JIMINMD - What's in the box?

It's gonna be a good day!

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Jim, If you're saying you have that day for NRPS, I'd take a copy. I don't have?

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Got em.. will send later today.

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I too opted for the full 10/21/78 show - on "Roses" now, and I have enjoyed this show so far, save for Bobby's slide playing during "Sugaree" and "Stagger Lee." My copy of this show (the Miller one that Vguy posted,) sounds pretty darn good.

I know that 5/2/70 DiP 8 is on tap for it's 50th anniversary Saturday, but what about tomorrow? May I suggest DiP 5 - 12/26/79, one of my personal favorite picks, for Friday's listen?

Of course, I think a number of folks should be receiving DaP34 tomorrow... but if not...

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Thanks, my man!

Ouch - this patch in the climax of "Stella" hurts. Still - this has been a good listen!

Peace

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I have the complete shows on a HD but they aren’t loaded on the microSDXC card that is currently in my music player.
So, chop job it was.
Yes, definitely time for the whole run to be Plangentized, Normanized, and packed up in a nice little Box that fits on a shelf.

I didn’t initially go for RT because I wanted complete shows, not chop jobs. Probably the wrong choice because I missed out on the bonus disc which I believe allows you to reassemble a complete 10-21 set2.
But, all that can be remedied with the release of a Winterland Oct. 78 Box. Bring it on Dave.

Now I’ve ventured into torrent territory and am listening to 3-25-83 148801.Clugston.
Sound quality is not terrible, but the cymbals are a bit too loud.

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Definitely a different feel than our listen yesterday with the wonderful RT2.3.

Sound quality is mediocre at best and I agree the patches are rough.

Does anyone have a tracking arrival date for tomorrow for Dave's #34.

Mine still is saying label created.

Conekid, check your PM.

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Agreed! Not the same high as yesterdays '74 trip.. But The Other One is ripping and has a moment of IT for sure.

Actually having listened again, I'm surprised that this got released with the number of patches that were required. I'm not holding my breath on a rerelease.. there's so much other stuff in that there Vault.

Fun to revisit.

12/26/79 tomorrow you say? So Be It!

I might have to dig in to some 5/1/70 for it's 50th as well.

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But I wasn’t into chop jobs.
I did start ordering when full shows started coming and I got those bonus discs.

I also didn’t order Rockin’ The Rhein, and missed out on that bonus disc. Still don’t know why I didn’t order it.

....just wrapped up. 6.8 goonie birds out of 10. Mojo working goes on a little too long, but everything after that was fire. Very nice Must have Been The Roses. Moving onto an anniversary of a show i attended. Irvine Meadows 4.30.89. Box Of Rain, Iko to open the second set.

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Thanks!

Luckily we have a new C. M. audience release so there is a better patch for the Stella Blue and some other small patches but, on a bad note the taper only got a partial set 1 so no new patch for Sugaree which sucks.

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If ya don't mind me calling you that. Is this the NRPS 5/2 you have?

nrps1970-05-02.sbd.reel master.cass.dat.flac16

Thanks!

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Ollin> Promised, Sugaree, Ramble On, Passenger, LLR, all good! Stagger- Miracle brings it down.

Bertha, Good Love it's back, MHBTR sweet, Estimated blowing the roof off! He's Gone okay, this show kinda goes up and down. Mojo starts out nice, TOO - Stella - Sugar Mag all good. I got them U.S. Blues.

I think I blew or singed a voice coil in the mid-range speaker yesterday. I got a Emotive xpa-2 amp 70lb monster (all most gave the Fedex guy a hernia). Hard to find speakers that this thing can't blow out. Thinking of going with Airmotiv T2+ loudspeaker anyone familiar with these speakers?

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Yes, there are two versions actually.. I haven't had time to see which one sounds better yet. I think the one that comes as a whole show is slightly better.. I need to figure that out a couple people hit me up.

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The one I have listed is the SIRMick seed.

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

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You might just have a better version than the two I have. It seems to be one or two steps closer to the master reel and my best, although it's a soundboard, has just a touch of hiss.

Shot you a message..

If you could compare All I Ever Wanted from yours to this..

https://archive.org/details/gd1970-05-02.sbd-fm-aud.unknown.108955.flac…

That should give us the answer. Yours seems to be a generation or two better.

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If there is any interest in the more complete version I am seeding it at the etree.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?torrentId=588035

NeW Riders Of The Purple Sage
Harpur College
Binghampton, NY
Saturday, May 2, 1970

Source: Soundboard > Reel Master > Cassette > DAT (48k)

01 //Workingman's Blues
02 Brown Eyed Handsome Man
03 Truck Drivin' Man
04 If You Hear Me When I'm Leavin'
05 tuning
06 Whatcha Gonna Do//
07 All I Ever Wanted
08 Henry
09 Lodi
10 Weir intro and tuning
11 Saw Mill *
12 The Race Is On *
13 Mama Tried *
14 Me And My Uncle *
15 The Weight

John 'Marmaduke' Dawson - rhythm guitar, vocals
David Nelson - lead guitar, vocals
David Torbert - bass, vocals
Jerry Garcia - pedal steel guitar
Mickey Hart - drums

guest:

Bob Weir - guitar, vocals *

Notes:

- This has been provided by an anonymous source.
- There were several nasty high-pitched squeals caused by feedback, which have been removed and some level adjustments have been made.
- Although the start of "Workingman's Blues" is cut this is the first time that any of it has circulated. It's completely missing from the FM source.

edited and mastered
SIRMick
March 2013

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Along with 8/13/75 this made me a dead head... I love this version so much.... I use to listen to it every day in college before I started getting tapes... bob t.... P.S. i am excited to hear Donna tonight!!! bob t

Cool to hear your story re: Wharf Rat & 8/13/75

Definitely have some tunes like that, first Dead album I got was WALSTIB from the ole Columbia Records and Tapes club, 11 Albums for a Penny!

Anything from that album takes me back but in particular Born Cross-Eyed and that Europe '72 Jack Straw.

Despite heavy rotation in bootleg circles, never heard 8/13/75 until the Dead released One From The Vault.
But I was stoked when I did get it.

And I totally forgot about Donna tonight! She's a kick, thanks for the flash:)

How's 12/26/79 going everyone? I had to get some 50 year old 5/1/70 in my ear hole.