Sweet liberty! We're venturing into the depths of 80s Dead with the complete show from 4/20/84 at the Philadelphia Civic Center and we're placing bets you'll think this one is more than fine. A strong contender for our mega 30 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN boxed set, 4/20/84 missed the cut by virtue of its setlist being a wee bit too similar to the years before and after. As DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 35, it's found its time to shine. The first set delivers yin yang harmony between Jerry and Bobby songs, yielding driven and powerful takes on tracks like "Feel Like A Stranger," "Cold Rain And Snow," and "Brown-Eyed Women." The second set begs the question - will we ever stop peaking? - with a monumental "Scarlet>Fire," a ripping "Samson and Delilah," a "Space" that pulls shapes that know no names, and that "Morning Dew" - get.in.to.it! And because this one might have ended just a little too soon, we've packed disc 2 and 3 with knock-your-socks-off bonus material from most of the second set from the previous night, 4/19/84. Grab ahold while you can!
Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.35: PHILADELPHIA CIVIC CENTER, PHILADELPHIA 4/20/84 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.
*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.
Angry Jack wasn't straw
but he was a man
He lived in the sand
At the Isle of this tripped out website page
Dad jokes, get your dad jokes
My Friend Jack
I doubt he is angry but ‘My friend Jack eats sugar lumps’.
I’m surprised no one has commented on Butch’s edict that no complete shows should be issued from later than 1978. While he/she is welcome to think this and to not buy them. I for one would miss the PNW, both Spring 1990, Formerly the Warlocks and several other boxes if they hadn’t been issued. The 30 Trips box would have also ended somewhat prematurely. Everyone is welcome to decide what they like and are prepared to buy but they shouldn’t dictate what others can do.
Dave's 35
I neglected this release for a while listening to other shows. Last night I sat down for a good solid listen to the second set of Dave's 35. My notes:
Scarlet Fire: Yes Jerry's voice is awful, but once you get to the jam, it's pretty hot. Weir is not very noticeable in the mix yet. You can hear Phil and Brent well. This is Jerry heaven for his fans, his sound is right out front. Sweet transition into Fire. More Garcia artistry in his soloing during the jams.
S&D: Weir suddenly appears in the mix-what a difference that makes! Jerry is on fire during the jams.
Miracle: Nice segue Space into Miracle. Hot Miracle out jam.
Dew: Pretty fast version. First jam gets a big WOW from me. Come on the last jam was so good I listened to it twice.
RnR>JBG: Rockin' JBG.
Day Job: I like this song, it's snappy and funny at the same time.
In my book, Dave's 35 is a keeper just from this second set, and I will give it a spin often.
Holy Brent Bashing Batman....
....are we going down this road again? Its bumpy for sure. I usually make a left turn onto country road 68 to help alleviate the suspension. That road is usually grated.
Or, to quote a recent stable genius, "It is what it is."
Its all good.
*Re/ butch
...holy Toledo, ok then, you don’t think it’s funny,I get it ,well the other 15,000 concert patrons sure thought it was funny at the time, what can I say more than when it comes to humor , to each thee own dagger. I answered your question, I explained it down to the sound of strings on Certain instruments feed thru the bla bla bla .Reread my posts , I’m not going to cut and past all my answers like some Frankenstein monster.geeze man. It’s pretty simple why theirs a difference, I provided more than one way. like you already stated I write fine. If you don’t like my answer than it is what it is, I’m not going to typ or provide the liner notes for this release! That would not be cool at all. Even if I can or cannot , the point is I’m not here to Expose every new release to its fullest caliber to ruin anything for anybody. A couple hints, riddles, clues never hurt anybody. and I share what I wish to share in a peaceful playful manner because that’s me. You can take it , leave it or just plain just ignore it & call it “spew” whatever, it’s all just a bag of wind to me, no more no less. Like I stated it’s none of my business what you think of me or for anyone matter of fact, I never would use the word P—-y on a Grateful Dead forum, my daughter comes on here and found it to be pretty disgusting. I think more than most would agree maybe not ? Maybe I’m just old fashion but that’s my trip. . I don’t pick or call anyone names on this forum who don’t agree or see eye to eye. I’m not mad you didn’t buy any of my CD I was selling in the past that would be really silly I believe. And to again remind you I wasn’t saying”let’s kick the shit out of butch! “ I made a simple reference to an old joke from the 70’s that’s being twisted into some riddle wrapped around aEnigma oh you’re own devise & imagination that I wish you harm in some way. Again I’m not mad I’m only interested in peace.
I also think it’s really silly if I don’t respond fast enough to you , it means I’m a liar. If you Pm me I gardnty I’ll answer all your questions in a timely manner. Ol righty then. I’ll let you get back to talking trash about me with your buddies here, it seems you get off on putting people and their opinion s down like saying nothen after year bla should be released because you don’t like it. Wow man I’m still flabbergasted over that remark! But I don’t hate you over it just a sadness falls over me when I read statements like so! Peace be with you butch , I really hope we can move on or at least Pm me about this matter in question if your still have more to add to this dulldrums
Concert Eras / Concert Poll
I find something to enjoy about every era of GD music. Of course I have my preferences as we all do. Regardless of keyboardist, 1 or 2 drummers or JG's particular guitar etc., there's usually something enjoyable in every era.
A concert poll:
Regardless of their place on the concert bill, what is a unique or unusual 3-4 band concert bill that you attended or know of and wished you had?
I remember the following but didn't attend:
Grateful Dead
Patti Smith Group
Roy Ayer's Ubiquity
Alumni Stadium
Univ. of Mass.
Amherst, Ma.
5/12/79
Bummer to read, indeed
GD era wars, yikes! Tense times for our country and evidently in this here forum.
Saw this “All The Years Live” 12/31/87 Bird Song from last Thanksgiving pop up recently. It’s a joy:
#brentsucks....
....put your money where your mouth is.
I'm listening to some Dead Kennedys.
So there.
Punk is an unusual animal....
....makes one angry yet understanding at the same time!
Might just be me, but that's just me.
Multiple Billing Shows
Faith No More
Metallica
Guns 'N Roses
Giants Stadium Summer 1993. I was there for my new found interest in G'NR. They came on about an hour and a half after Metallica ended, so people were impatient. They played for a little over an hour and then left the stage for the night because someone allegedly threw a lighter up at the stage and hit Axel. I saved a Life magazine article that documented that as one of the numerous occasions G'NR imploded during a show, showed up late, or didn't play at all. Pretty disappointing but they more than made up for at the Garden on the reunion tour. I think they played almost 3 hours, sounded great and looked like they were having fun.
Pot head pixies
There's a great quote from Daevid Allen, main man of Gong in last years book/box set.
"Whatever Gong may mean to you, its well possible that it means the very opposite to someone else. This is very pleasing to me."
It would be great if this applied to the Dead too-that people could get pleasure from differences in opinion, rather than perceive them as threats. If we all thought, saw and spoke the same we would be dead.
Multiple Billing Shows
Jefferson Starship - Grace sloppy & drunk
J Geils Band - should have topped the bill
Gentle Giant - prog rock with these other two??
The bummer on this triple bill was it was sold as an outdoor festival gig, but due to weather concerns, switched at the last minute to an arena, being 1976 it was pre-net, so word of mouth only, and guaranteed shite seats by the time you heard and made it to the arena! But Magic Dick & J Geils rocked, woke everyone up after the opener, and we missed most of the prog rock - which was a snooze - getting to the roof of the arena for seats.
To this day, I cannot name one member, album, or song by Gentle Giant.
Multiple Billing Shows
Iron Butterfly - Yes - Dada
1/16/1971 South Parade Pier, Southsea, England
Iron Butterfly topped the bill and played an impressively powerful set. At that time their current album was "Metamorphosis". If you've never heard it, check it out.
Yes were promoting "The Yes Album" which would be released a few weeks later.
Dada were a fine band with Robert Palmer and Elkie Brooks as their vocalists.
After Iron Butterfly's set, most of Yes joined them onstage for a lengthy jam.
Tickets cost 6/- (six shillings / six bob) if I remember correctly. The following month the currency went decimal and shillings no longer existed. Those were the days.
Seasons
Went for a run yesterday with all the beautiful east coast autumn views to enjoy. Was listening to the dead during the run, and the sights and smells in the air + the sound of the dead in my ears made me realize that of all the seasons, fall is the one that i most associate with the dead. Growing up in the Philly area allowed me to see so many great east coast fall tours (close proximity to so many venues up and down the northeast). Summer tours were fun but always so hot and sweaty. Spring (at least here) was still wet and cold, but fall tours where the thing i looked forward to the most. All these years later, i can remember the drives, the crisp air in the lot, the warmth of the arena when you walked in (or the in the case of the spectrum, the smell). I'd give anything to re-live those nights but thankful for the memories i have!
Multiple Band Bills
REO Speedwagon
UFO
Molly Hatchet?? Mid-September 1978-Baltimore Civic Center
DEVO
Jeff Marder(Local Comedian)-Really?? He was boo'd off stage 12/29/1978
Painters Mill Music Fair-Owings Mills MD
Last 5:
Richie Havens-1983
Don Cherry-Orient
Michael Hedges-3/20/1981 Ellicott City MD
Grateful Dead-4/26/69-Feedback/What's Become of the Baby/Feedback!!
Grateful Dead 3/18/1977-Terrapin Station(W/At A Siding/Terrapin Flyer)!!
as usual off subject
Guess I didn't realize till just now, that there are two "angel's share". Just ordered up the American Beauty version.
Appears to be only a download.?.
Though the price is "from 12.99".
Is there another version? Will it be available on cd?
Doesn't seem to be a comment section for it.
No Future
In the first year that punk rock took off in England-from summer 1976-summer 1977, a typical gig would have 4 bands on, all of whom played for about 30-40 minutes. In December 1976 I saw The Sex Pistols supported by The Buzzcocks and The Damned or The Clash-I forget which. Then I saw The Clash supported by The Jam early 1977. Good nights out, but I have no affection for this era really. They didn't hit me like Black Sabbath and Hawkwind had a few years earlier
The best multiple bill I saw - hands down-was Wembley 1998. Dig this-
Jerry Lee Lewis
Little Richard
Chuck Berry.
Amazing. Just to see those names lit up in neon outside the stadium was magical. Another cool one was
Ricky Nelson
Bo Diddley
....and, somewhat less cool... Bobby Vee.
DaveRock/Bobby Vee
But Bobby Vee would have been cool if Elston Gunnn was still playing piano in his band. Of course, he had his own career later as Bob Dylan!
Phil Steves?
Got a chuckle this morning when I saw a photo of Phil from 1975 and I thought it was Rick Steves for a minute! Then I realized they both toured Europe so it sort of works. I wasn't old enough to make that GD '72 tour but so glad to have the tape! Have to say of course, Phil is cool and Rick is a well-meaning nerd.
As for Dave's 36 - I see it sort of like the RFK box, two shows, two nights in one place. I like that format. Two nights at Red Rocks in 78. You hear the band stretch out over their material. I say, bring it on!
Double Bills
Biggest one I can think of is Dylan and Paul Simon. It must have been 1999 or 2000.
Multi-band Billing and (speaking of) Punk Rock
11-23-91 Electric Ballroom, Knoxville TN
GG Allin and the Murder Junkies .....
.... and three other bands. I forget who they were - go figure.
the 6 25 78 show I cited...
I wasn't there (was living in Wisconsin, straight outta 8th grade), but I bet it was fun. Eddie Money, though?
One I did attend:
October 9, 1981 in LA
Rolling Stones
J Geils Band
George Thorogood
PRINCE
RS were ok. I saw history, at least. Mick: "I want to come out into the audience and eat you all. boys AND girls." (as a high school senior, that made me feel a little...funny.)
J Geils were ok.
GT was fun.
Prince...awkward. thigh-high leg warmers? and it was 1981. people were not too receptive.
Glad I went for the history, but it wasn't an other-worldly experience.
Dylan/Simon
That was 1999 (at least that's when i saw them). Really fun show!
Multiple bills
The Who/Dead Day on the Green #? 10/9/76
Dead/Charlie Daniels Band/Greg Kihn Band 4/22/79
Megadeth/Nuclear Assault/Testament/ Sacrilege 1988
Rolling Stones/Meters 6/1976
Tribal Stomp 9/78: Butterfield Blues Band/Big Brother/It's a Beautiful Day/Canned heat/Country Joe & the Fish/Lee Michaels
Multiple Bills
in 2001, through a friend of a friend of a friend, i was given tickets to the taping of a Brian Wilson tribute that eventually aired on TV. Really fun night that included Brian Wilson, Elton John, Billy Joel, David Crosby, and many others. It wasn't meant for live tv so there were some stopping and starting which was odd (i'm looking at you David Crosby), but as far as experiences go, it was definitely unique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_All-Star_Tribute_to_Brian_Wilson
Multiple billings
Cousins, I was at Who Dead in Oakland and the Tribal Stomp at the Greek, also.
Dylan/Tom Petty at the Greek Theater, Berkeley CA
Commander Cody, NRPS, Beach Boys, The Dead at Oakland Stadium, 6/8/74
Eddie Money, The Outlaws, Santana, The Dead at Autzen Stadium, Eugene OR 6/25/78
NRPS, The Blues Brothers, The Dead at the closing of Winterland 12/31/78
To the Englanders out there (really off topic :-)
Watching a 1947 movie Lured, supposed to take place London.
Ad on front of bus - I assume ad and not a national message.
Just text - Buy Card Boxes of Fifty and get More Coupons
The shot cut the ending "s" and half the "n", so I'm assuming that.
What was the product? Tea? A box of 50 came with more "product coupons" , per count, then say a box of 10?
Nobody in this group old enough to know?
By product coupons I mean manufacturers coupons you collect and cash in for "gifts". In 'Merica, Raleigh cigarettes came with a "coupon" on the back of every pack, if you bought a carton, you got 10, plus extra in the carton. You could save up a 100 and get a Raleigh ashtray or go big,,, collection 30,000 and get the iron lung. My buddy's father was saving up for that.
Nite Cat / Tribal Stomp
I missed the Tribal Stomp, I think the S.F.Blues festival might have been going on that day, not completely sure but I think that's the reason I missed it. I would have liked to to see Paul Butterfield.
Mixed Groups
I couldn't think of any, then remember the Dylan/Dead/Petty scene.
Then I just remembered Lockn. Some wild mix moments there.
Biggest one two years ago. George Clinton -> Widespread Panic. This guy left the crowd shell-shocked. Panic came out and the place had silence over it like everyone was struck dumb by an electric shock. After about 30 seconds of this the Panic drummer was equally shocked and said " wow, that was a lot of music". That was a moment.
Ok, ok, one more
Back in like 82? Weir was going around with a thing "the sound of San Francisco", the one group was "Zero". Greatest "she's not there" EVER, EVER, EVER done. Believe me, I was there, trippin balls and it was THAT good. :-)
Davestrang
I was at that UMass, Amherst fest. An odd mix of fans. I do recall someone from the Hell's Angels revving his chopper to NFA as he wheeled up to the front of the crowd.
Couple of triple bills I recall:
Doobie Bros., Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Firefall at Nassau Colliseum, Fall '76 (Yes, Skynyrd kicked ass).
Rolling Stones, ZZ Top, and the Fabulous Thunderbirds (featuring a teenaged Stevie Ray Vaughan), Cotton Bowl, Fall '81.
Here's one I would have attended if I had been old enough, and I am an old Dukie:
Duke University, Joe College Weekend 1971: Paul Butterfield, NRPS, The Beach Boys, Grateful Dead, and Mountain.
Multi Band Bills
"11 August 1967. "Direct from England", Herman's Hermits, The Who and special guests The Blues Magoos are in Baltimore, Maryland and tonight play a show at 8:30pm at the Civic Center."
So long Herman's Hermits, Hello Who...I loved the Blues Magoos back in the day.
Another interesting combination - 9/27/1969 - Canned Heat, Youngbloods and Tracter at Merriweather Post Pavilion, Columbia, MD.