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Definitely levitation

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2018/10/1968-show-list.html

A curated list of '68 shows and tapes. Caution! You'll break out the sickles and pitchforks...

Just to echo ... was it Daverock? ... that a '66 to '68 collection ranging from multi-song segments to even just one surviving, unreleased track per show over even two discs would sell like hotcakes. (Just confessing I'm not 100% certain on the identity of "hot cakes," but I digress.)

If you read that blogspot biz for '66, '67 and '68, it's enough to get ye olde pitchforks sharpened up for the inevitable seige of The Vault.

Cue in the Monty Python visuals.

Hendrixfreak, that's a great post, very informative. Looks like there are still a few complete shows that can be released. I guess there are 37 shows in the vault from 1968, not all complete, that exist. Looks like they have a complete copy of 10/12 & 10/13/68 in the vault, that would certainly make for a cool re!ease someday.

Great clip of T.Bone Walker. Beautiful tone. This was where Chuck Berry discovered some of his signature licks.

Good information on 1968 Dead, too. If we had a box set that focussed on the 60s it could be the most exciting release since Europe 72.

I listened to a Jefferson Airplane cd I haven't heard in ages last night-"Sweeping Up The Spotlight" from November 1969 at the Fillmore East. Nearly knocked me out of my chair. Diamond hard rock led more by Jorma Kaukonen and the rhythm section. More hokey cokey than Alice in Wonderland, as they rip through rhythm and blues and up tempo Marty Balin songs. Enough to make your speakers explode the way they attack "You and Me and Pooneil" and set closing "Other Side of This Life".

1968 or bust. Let's storm the vault, who's with me?

In the spirit of revolution I say, "Let them eat cake" (...and by cake I mean the cake with the dosed icing).

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s7enKyN9Jm0

Im in. It is time for some '68 and Pig

I saw an old pitchfork for sale

Made out of branches and sticks

I'll go get it today

RELEASE THE 68s!!!

ah.. that kind of pitchfork. Good choice, makes for a great get-away vehicle once you learn how to fly them.

The dreaded double post. Taking advantage of the wasted space, 3 words:

Bolo
Bolo
Bolo

Wow

3/17/68

Wow

3/16/73

Wow

Went looking for the 3-17-68 in my files and coudn't find it... so I went searching Deadlist but no copies there, then I remembered the old Download series. Been awhile since I dug into those and there it was. With all the bounty that is released, it is easy to forget what is already out there. Love that Cleveland Dark Star into the Philo Stomp. Hell I love all the Dark Starry nights

10 28 72
12 6 73

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2gxE28bGtk. Sonny Boy Williamson, one of my favorite harp players.

I hear Jerry studied the Quran. C'mon folks, this BS should be weeded out automatically.

Merry Christmas to all of our Quran reading and studying friends!!

Spam for Allah. Looks like they got rid of it.

Fragment of soundboard available

Could the returned reels include this show?

Does of a list of the returned reels exist?

Or is Dave not tipping his hand?

Star performed ...???? Man, I miss that grateful feeling!
Happy holidays to everyone, have a grateful blessed day my sisters and brother s! Peace be with you all!
🙏❤️💀🌹

Grateful Dead Live at Starlight Theater on 1982-08-03
by Grateful Dead
1982-08-03
Soundboard, Charlie Miller*
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Resource DeadLists Project
Set 1:
d1t01 - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo ->
d1t02 - Franklin's Tower ->
d1t03 - New Minglewood Blues
d1t04 - Peggy-O
d1t05 - El Paso ->
d1t06 - Cumberland Blues
d1t07 - Althea
d1t08 - Cassidy
d1t09 - Big Railroad Blues ->
d1t10 - Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
d1t11 - Might As Well

Set 2:
d2t01 - Shakedown Street ->********!!!!!WoW!
d2t02 - Samson And Delilah
d2t03 - To Lay Me Down
d3t01 - Let It Grow ->
d3t02 - Drums ->
d3t03 - Space ->
d3t04 - He's Gone ->
d3t05 - The Other One ->
d3t06 - Stella Blue ->
d3t07 - Sugar Magnolia

Encore
d3t08 - Casey Jones

....to me by the summer of 82’ the band is just playing a beautiful timed performances in the dead’s time frame. ‘The Stella Blue’ is a 5 star performance by Jerry & the rest of the band is really on ! The ‘He’s Gone’ is sung with heavenly voices ! Even the sound of the crowds singing is apart of the complete experience primo Audio quality captures the experience!
* https://archive.org/details/gd1982-08-03.sbd.miller.77196.sbeok.flac16/…

“**Some people only saw the beginning in the 60s, others the 70s, 80s or even the 90s. Many crossed decades. But every decade had its ups and downs (albeit more downs as time wore on.). But one thing holds true: When they were “on” it was “on” for sure, a musical and social event with no rivals. My heavy time was 1980-1989 and I am blessed for being at some truly incredible shows that I would rack up there with some of the best. True, I had to wade through some clunkers, but that just made the great ones that much sweeter.

Drum Roll please
Duke 1978/04/12

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JoQVAWbA-F8. For all the guitar pickers here on the forum.

Feliz Navidad y Nuevo Cumpleaño tambien...hope everyone has a great and safe holiday in these crazy times...

Proudfoot, I don't recall all details, but "the returned reels" actually comprise multiple sources.

There's the big batch of 100s of reels of Betty Boards rescued from the three purchasers of her abandoned locker stuff that Rob Eaton assisted with preservation and ABCD did legal work on. We've seen many releases in the '73-'78 timeframe from those. I'm not even sure that the "third" batch has been secured, cleaned and digitized yet.

There's a batch of tapes that Jerry possessed and Mtn Girl returned maybe 8 years ago that resulted in that sweet April 18, 1970 tape of acoustic GD with nice Pigpen set, released in 2013.

There's a reference in DaP 10 to returned reels that resulted in the Thelma '69 release.

I also know that the Owsley Stanley Foundation has located and digitized several reels of GD in their possession -- potential release TBD -- and that there may be more at OST. I inquired, so far without success, about the missing reel to 9-19-72, my first show.

There's another release that slips my mind that resulted when a late roadie's ex-girlfriend found reels in his former possessions and returned them, resulting in a ('69?) release that slips my mind right now.

That's five sources of returned tapes and probably there's more in that category.

Though it's frustrating to some degree, I can understand why Dave & Co. do not reveal all details of the Vault holdings. They've got the element of surprise, which, like it or not, maintains interest among the fans. Personally, if I knew they had recovered all reels from my first show, I'd be hammering them to release it. How tiresome! Although I/we do it anyway...

Enough details on the Vault's holdings have slipped out over the years -- yet generally without official confirmation -- that it's a giant mystery wrapped in a tortilla. As the most-recorded band in history, with the most aggressive archival release schedule, we've got a holy mother fantabulosity on our hands. And if that's not a word, it should be.

resulted in DaP 6 (SF, 12-20-69, and maybe St Louis, 2-2-70).

I actually turned on the light over part of my collection and saw the only candidate was late '69 and boom, there it is.

The liner notes said that no complete shows were in this stash, but that the many reels completed multiple incomplete shows in the vault.

Having seen with amazement how tapes of Jimi Hendrix kept (and may keep) turning up over the past 50 years, one can still dream that long-lost tapes may find their way home. Certainly, one holy grail for me is the soundboard for June 17, 1975, which is said to have returned to the Vault. Someone pointed out that that's the only other live show from '75 yet to see release and, of course, is the logical companion to a 50th Blues for Allah.

Okay, now for a second cup of coffee here on a sunny day in Denver.

I know I am but one star in the Grateful Dead universe

and one orbiting the Dark Star in the center

But man, when you hear 10 28 72 and other "heaven on Earth" shows

a person lusts for more, preferably RIGHT NOW

it's in my nature

Hendrixfreak pretty much covered it, but I still feel it necessary to point out that in the batch of returned "Bettys" were also Rex Jackson tapes, which makes sense as they were married. But there was also at least one show released that was a tape by Owsley: DaP 24 8/25/72. How many of his reels ended up in her collection is a great mystery tome, and how many tapes did Rex make while Betty wasn't on tour? Did she also have any of Kidd's tapes? Kidd and Rex seem to be the primary tapers for the '73-'74 shows, so it will be interesting to see if 9/7-8/73 were also part of the return, or if they really sat on a show Dick was planning to release as far back as 1997.

I'd also really be interested to know exactly what the OSF has in regards to Dead material, because I'm just not sure they can put out a commercial Dead release through OSF alone, they would need permission and probably to team up with Rhino/WMG for a release.

I'm definitely with Hendrixfreak in wishing a Vault index was available, and I'm constantly amazed at the stuff that people already know is in there in complete form, which shows are missing a reel or two, etc. Most of the focus on the variables of what has returned seem to focus mainly on the Bettys because she was a fantastic recording engineer, and probably because there's no list of Rex Jackson tapes that are known to be missing, because I don't know of a list of shows he's known to have taped. He and Kidd knew how to get a damn good recording.

I do not intend my comments to put any damper on any dreams, Proudfoot. Rather, that's why I used my own lust to hear my first show as an example. And to offer hope that everyone's dream show gets released someday.

However... tthe key word is "someday." You more sensibly call for "now"!

At age 63, with no serious health issues (at least from the neck down) but also 50 years into my live music 'career' and proud possessor of ... I dunno, thousands of CDs of archival music (my coffee table for new or re-listening probably has 30 releases on it) I would at least speculate that in years to come my interest may wane. It's a theory at this point. Example: Leslie West, guitarist for Mountain, just passed. I once interviewed him about his encounters with Hendrix for a Hendrix magazine. Upon the news of his passing, I immediately pulled the original Woodstock release off the (Jimi) shelf and played the two cuts by Mountain, then ordered "The Very Best of Mountain." I should add that I'm divorced and single -- not that the two subjects (music madness and single-ness) are related -- but with no constraints involved, they'll probably find me someday in my chair, covered in cobwebs, surrounded by CDs with rats nibbling on my toes....

Wow, third cup of coffee is the trick. Call it a cry for help... I think the topic was "how many more years will I eagerly await the next GD release?"

Well, got my 2021 subscription squared away (within minutes of the earliest pre-order announcement) and if the 2021 box is $200 or under and offers fall '72, check that one off as well. (Oh hell, you know I'm buying such a box regardless of price.) AND if they release Wake of the Flood 50th this year, with a 3-CD '73 show attached, I'm on that like white on rice. Between fall '72 and fall '73 I caught seven Dead shows and that Wake material, mixed with Euro '72 songs, was my baptism.

This is the longest post I've made lamely trying to question the longevity of my dead-ication, while affirming that I'm still fully in the grip of GD madness. Okay, time to take a walk, breathe....

Check out the OSF Facebook page. They mention one specific GD show with an unbelievable setlist that their tape-preservation project has digitally archived. The preservation and archiving does not guarantee release, unless the GD org agrees. OSF did release an ABB set from the Feb '70 shows, so anything's possible. When feeling flush in 2019, I did contribute the requisite $400 to preserve a reel of the New Riders from spring '73, when I first saw them in a standalone format in a small theater. But OSF did just release a 5-CD set of proto- and early Riders, so another show release may take awhile.

If by chance the OSF finds the missing reel (who taped Sept 19, 1972???) to my first show I would expect in that case they would reunite it with the other reels in the GD Vault and yield to Dave & Co. on release plans.

But I should have prefaced all of my remarks today but acknowledging that, like Sgt. Schultz, in reality "I know NOTHING."

with 2/24/73 as the accompanying show

or anything else you wish, ptb

I'm not sure if that was just fortuitous timing on their part, as the ABB were now officially broken up, and only putting out archival material, and at some point set up Allman Brothers Band Records, which is now distributing the new releases of Duane material Fillmore West '71 and Owings Mill 10/17/71. The original release of that February 1970 Fillmore East stuff was in conjunction with GDP and Dick and Kirk West, the ABB archivist. My guess is they had settled on the rights on that, and OSF was able to re-release it with sonic upgrades, then the Deluxe Edition. I would love for the OSF to be able to release a Dead show, I just don't see how they can put out one of those tapes without WMG/Rhino getting some sort of compensation. The ABB situation seems to be one where, as with Hendrix, if they find a good sounding Duane tape, they will release it. The fanbase is there for any and all Duane material. The Dead have proven there is a tremendous market for their archival releases. Now exactly how big is that market is the question, because Rhino and Dave are putting out almost a dozen shows per year with the Dave's Picks, box sets, and 50th anniversary releases, and only the last are unlimited (or at least not limited to a published number). Sure, every Dave's is snapped up, and put on ebay for ridiculous prices, but that could also be people realizing the secondary market's value. Dave often hints at the nuts and bolts behind the scenes such as how many boxes to limit the box set to, PNW 73-74 still has some left, RFK 89, as well. Both were 15,000; June '76's 12,000 are gone. July '78 took four years to sell out. So, I'm curious as to whether OSF can justify the cost it would take to put out one Dead show, as they would probably need to sell 25-30,000 copies to make it a success. I really hope they do it, and are able to do it. I just wonder at the legal complications to it. I hope to sponsor a reel with OSF one day, they are doing a great thing. The Doc and Merle box is fantastic, the ABB release is a major upgrade to the 1996 release, and I'm planning to get the Ali Akhbar Khan release soon. I should get the NRPS and Hot Tuna releases, too, just haven't yet.

Oh, and I just ordered the OSF ABB vinyl. And I just looked it up to see if that was put out by OSF or ABB Records, and it's ABB Records, so maybe the licensing only goes so far for so long? I did see OSF has a 2LP 45 RPM show from Doc and Merle at the Boarding House on their label, too, so they apparently can get vinyl cut, but did not for the ABB release. So, like you, I'm left with more questions than answers. But that is absolutely par for the course.

Edited to add: Proudfoot, give me 2/9/73. Speaking of more questions than answers, why has that show not been released long ago?

A looong time favorite

Got the cassettes early on. I remember the second set in a backyard....

Lysergic listening in my dorm room....

Eyes after that show in Ventura...

Yahoo!

2 9 73

Yes yes yes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UJu97xdUPDs. These shows at the Warfield in 91 & 92 were really special. Let's hope that Santa Claus brings us a nice box set next year from 1969, or a compilation 67'68'69 box set, or an October 1974 Winterland complete recordings audio and video box, which would sell out in minutes. Merry Christmas everybody, there is a light at the end of the tunnel, 2021 is almost here.

Twas The Night Before a Dead Show...
’Twas the night before a Dead show and all through the place,All the heads were dosed - just trippin’ to space.The joints were all rolled with precision and care,With hopes that St. Stephen soon would be there.The freaks were nestled all stoned in their beds,While visions of Johanna danced in their heads.With me in my poncho and her in my hand,Just dyin to hear “Uncle John’s Band.”When out from the stage there arose such a clatter,I sprang to my feet to see what was the matter.O’ way to the stadium I flew with my stash,I kicked down the gate - it fell with a crash.the light from the orb, hanging so high.Blinded me like I was Born cross Eyed.And what to my red glossy eyes should appear,A shadowed figure, could it be Mr. Weir?No, too big to be Bob, too short to be Phil,Could it be Mickey, Vince, or maybe even Bill?He started to sing and the sound from his lips,Assured me at once that he was Captain Trips!His eyes how they twinkled, his dimples how merry,I exclaimed in excitement, “Oh Wow! It’s Jerry.”I couldn’t believe it - just Jerry and Me,“Play something” I said. “Play Sugaree.”The Fat man jammed - he was on a roll,With his sweet songs, he rocked my soul.Jerry spoke once, and his message was plain:“Gotta go now,” he said. “It looks Like Rain.”But I heard him exclaim as he walked out of sight,“Good Lovin’ to all, and I bid You Goodnight."

Wishing all friends and family a joyful holiday

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-RJJwk-Opw4. I saw Charles Brown play at the 1976 S.F. Blues Festival in McLaren Park, he was great, Mike Bloomfield was also on the bill. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone.

A Jerry Christmas to all.

Yes, very well done.

Right on. That's what I call some Christmas poetry! Thanks for the positive vibes... :-)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4oPInSfh6H4.

I love "Dead Flowers"...reminds me of the '72 tour...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-IR95IrAZ2k. What a great song.

38 & 39 years ago today, I was at the Oakland Auditorium for the start of two great runs of Grateful Dead shows. High fun times.

I wasn't there - but this date always reminds me of 12/26/79, swiftly followed by 12/28/79. Shows I have had since the taping days - great jams which are totally different from anything ( I have heard) that they did in earlier years. In a good way.

I am blown away by a new cd I bought myself called "Truckers, Kickers, Cowboy Angels" Volume 1 1966-1968,-a double cd of country rock records from the years in question, Its a Bear Family release, and sounds superb-the telecasters really ring out. Its a double, and there are releases in this series chronicling the progress of country rock from 1966 to 1975. I might get the lot.

No comment box on the page for this set, so I'm throwing it here.

Wife gave me this box set for Christmas.

It's a very nice box, weighs a ton! I got in on the first 2500 so it's "hand" number AND includes a "tetzoscope" slipmat. A tetzo-who? Just what I thought. It's a double side mat to put on your turntable that has a moving picture when the turntable is spinning. Pretty neat.

picture - https://ps-af.facebook.com/VinylMePlease/videos/301939414139782/

The lp's are on different color vinyl (180 gram), all in those plastic-no static-cushioned sleeves.

They really did a nice job on the collection.

I'm really going to have to get the turntable up and running!

Thanks for the Truckers series info, I'll probably get all of them at some point(still need the Bakersfield box though); I highly recommend the 1968 Everly Brothers' Roots LP, one of their best and a great mix of psych and country rock(coupla' tracks included on the BF box.)

Little Bob & The Lollipops...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifo_VDdZm6s

...was the start of a three day run at the El Monte Legion Stadium...Highlights included an "Easy Wind" that i thought was going to blow the back wall out of the building...

...and by the way, Happy St Stephen's Day to all...

going to El Monte Legion Stadium"

FOR THREE DAYS OF GRATEFUL DEAD

thank you for the reference, Nappyrags

Those three shows are spectacular

Nice box set idea, Dave and pals...

A belated Merry Christmas to those who celebrate. A very Happy New Year to all.

I’m sure this doesn’t need to be said, but just in case......beware of links from posters who just signed on the day of their post!!

Music is the Best!!!!!!

Wow, I had not thought of El Monte shows for a looong time. Not sure which night I had a tape of, but it featured a crushing "Other One." Good though not great sound on a Maxell cassette in, perhaps, 1980? I'll look it up. Wow -- the 12-26-70 setlist is killer. Holy mackerel -- 12-27-70 is also freaky good. So my tape was from 12-28-70 and probably partial, as I don't clearly remember (amazing, after 40 years, you'd think I'd remember this setlist...) the astonishing setlist on this night.

Just when I think my GD-mania will calm down, it's blazing up again. If they have these nights complete on good tape, by all means send this to the priority release list. Looks like plenty 'o grease on these nights as well.

Boy oh boy...

Edit: Does anyone have any insight into these tapes and the Vault's holdings? I see in the Taping Compendium that 12-26 may still exist as an intact soundboard of 110 minutes' length. 12-27 is not listed as a circulating tape. And 12-28 is listed only as an audience tape. Much as I've rattled the cage for a fall '72 box in 2021, I'd take the three nights in El Monte as a box in a heartbeat. Gawd, I'm easy.... AND "El Monte" achieved iconic status when some Cheech & Chong routine had "El Monte Slim" on it, if I remember correctly.