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This is fun... I’m going to lob in a guess too.I’ll go with summer ‘73 also - it’s a very logical choice. 3 complete shows: 5/26/73 - Kezar Stadium, San Francisco - 4 discs 6/9/73 - RFK, Washington DC - 3 discs 6/10/73 - RFK, Washington DC - 4 discs 11 discs total. My thinking here is that 6/10 and 5/26 are both legendary shows and neither one can ever be a Dave’s pick because they can’t fit on 3 discs. They absolutely have to be released and a box set is the only way. Maybe they call it “sea to shining sea” or “coast to coast” or something like that. Whatever it ends up being, I’m going to be buying it.

If this is the box set, then it may sell out within days. Can't think of another era that's in as much demand other than Ark '69 or Fall '72. I think it's gonna be a larger box, probably 12 shows (6/9 through 8/1). Don't see them wasting the 5/26/73 bullet on a box, when its an obvious stand-alone release candidate, and 6/10/73 will surely be taking the stand-alone release from this possible set.

I'll go with 3 from '76: 6/11, 6/14 & 6/15 All returned Betty Boards, and there has yet to be a '76 box

Once a year Dave's Picks puts out a four disc release. Could ya imagine 6/10/1973 as a Dap with the third set with the Allman Brothers as the bonus disc. That would definitely sellout sub's.

The presence of bacon in the Muppet box would indicate that the "donor" of said bacon had, shall we say, moved beyond this earthly realm.

miss piggyslaughtered old slaughter houses in Chicago Chicago box? doubt it nnnnnnnnnnnope. not getting anything.

So it’s 7 hours of video of Kevin Bacon rehearsing for Footloose?

greasePigpen, who has departed this Earthly realm 7 how many shows in 68 NW tour? 68 box, babies, to go with Anthem re-release

Too easy. Mel Blanc (voice of Porky Pig) passed on 7/10/89. GD played two nights at Giants Stadium where Jimmy Hoffa is buried. /s

I'm watching the National Championship game on mute- Go Nova! and streaming the Jam of the Week right now. We are the luckiest bunch of bastards around. I am so grateful for this band, this community, the archive, the people who recorded it all, and all the folks who make all the releases happen... it just blows me away how much we have to listen to and love. I can't get enough, and I am grateful. That's all.

Ha.. I always look at those monthly newsletters from Rhino with a bit of skepticism.. I expect the Footloose box will be the big news on next months newsletter.

Been enjoying reading the speculation about the next box. I would be most psyched to see a summer '73 box, but it seems like there are an awful lot of Pig and bacon references in Bolo's "clues". Looking at the other reference by Bolo to "6" and "2" and noticing that there are 6 shows from the month 2 of '71 in the Capital Theater, Port Chester, NY run (2/18/71, 2/19/71, 2/20/71, 2/21/71, 2/23/71 and 2/24/71) and all are on the list of returned Betty Boards. Of course, 2/19/71 was previously released as 3FTV, but one can always hope. These shows came up in discussion somewhat recently on these threads, mostly as the subject of high praise, so maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part. Pretty sure that I will be glad to get whatever the selection is for the box set, haven't really been disappointed so far.

I would really love a box full of Pigpen shows, the people who suggest a Spring '73 (Pig passed on March 8, 1973) may be closer to the mark. Could include these two shows where they played He's Gone. 1973-03-24 - The Spectrum - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1973-03-26 - Baltimore Civic Center - Baltimore, Maryland And possibly the previous shows in NY depending on the number of discs 1973-03-15 - Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, New York 1973-03-16 - Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, New York 1973-03-19 - Nassau Coliseum - Uniondale, New York 1973-03-21 - Utica Memorial Auditorium - Utica, New York 1973-03-22 - Utica Memorial Auditorium - Utica, New York

I'd be fine with that. They all shine although I am partial to 3/24 and 3/26.

Bolo's clues are for once pretty clear. I'd love a 73 box, but it's obviously Pigpen. Maybe next year on the 73.

Remember that we're talking Bolo here. It could be anywhere from '66 to '95. Never trust a prankster.

First Danny Gatton, and now Pat Martino? Damn man, you know your music! I hope it reaches some new ears, that's always awesome...

Jim, was hoping to touch base with you, maybe next time... Peace, all. (This user name is now deleted.)

I mentioned this a couple of times before... There used to be an Allman Brothers fanzine called "Hittin' The Note" that was incirculation from the early '90's until a few years back around the time the ABB stopped touring. There was an article in one issue with an interview bewteen Dick latvala and "Tour Mystic" Kirk West around the time that ABB "Fillmore East, February 1970" was released by GDP. Recorded by Owsley at the same famous FE '70 Dead shows that comprise Dicks Picks Vol. 4. In the article interview, Dick Latvala and kirk West discussed a project they where to work on involving sets of both, the Allman's and the Dead's sets from RFK '73 in a box set package. When I have a few minutes, I'll dig out my collection of issues of "Hittin' The Note" so I can cite the exact issue number (it was mailed out quarterly. I have most of them), the author and maybe transcribe the article in it's entirety, as I'm not having luck finding it online. They were discontinued, but can still be found on Ebay amongst other places. So, my hopes for an RFK '73 box would be to fulfill Dick Latvala's and Kirk West's vision for the "Allman/Dead RFK '73" box they once discussed. To truly and properly appreciate the historic nature that this event must include the full program of what transpired those two days. If they can pull off getting the Betty boards back, and pull off $200-$750 box sets, they can do what needs to be done to make this Allman/Dead RFK '73 box happen, just as Dick Latvala wanted. Maybe even dedicate it to him, Gregg Allman, Butch Trucks and everybody else involved who is no longer with us. ...also would make a great crossover project to bring together fans of both iconic bands. Otiel is now yet another link, even though the shows happened long before his time (and Warrens's for that matter).

Dead of the Day: April 3, 1970http://www.gratefuldeadoftheday.com/04-03-1970 University of Cincinnati Field House Cincinnati, Ohio The show gets off to a solid start with a clipped entry into Casey Jones. From there we get a standard, but oh so good China>Rider. Then Pigpen makes his first appearance and throws down on the Hard to Handle; it will not be his only highlight on this night. Bobby then calls for a “drummer’s choice,” which elicits a rocking Dancing in the Streets that devolves into a smoking jam, dominated by Mickey, Billy, and Jerry. The second set is acoustic and all Jerry tunes, save Pig on Katie Mae. The early Friend of the Devil includes some alternate lyrics. Deep Elem, Candyman, and Uncle John’s are all tasty and clean little nuggets of Dead sweetness. Jerry’s voice is so resonant and touching throughout all of them. Then Pig gives us a solid Katie Mae to cap off the middle period. The third set opens with a fine Good Lovin’. With Pig on vocals, the boys enter into a straight-up blues-rock jam in the middle of the tune that has the whole band playing as a single writing beast, culminating in some awesome vocal vamping to end the song. Next up is an Other One Suite that is the standout of the entire evening, especially the second Cryptical which arches outward and then thrashes about before heading off soaring again; it is a thing of beauty. A great Cosmic Charlie follows only to lead to a short, hard jammed Not Fade Away that sort of breaks into Lovelight. While Pig does not get into a full-on rap at the end of it, he still takes out all the stops and delivers a monumental effort. Unfortunately, the We Bid You Goodnight encore is not on the recording. On this night, the Dead highlighted a bill that included the Lemon Pipers and Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. The Lemon Pipers were a psychedelic bubblegum pop band that had a number one hit that year with Green Tambourine. One can imagine that they played a fairly standard musical set. However, it is entirely unclear what the Merry Pranksters would have been doing for their act, short of handing out LSD. Lossless Bootleg Bonanza: Grateful Dead – Cincinnati, OH (04/03/70) grateful dead - cincinnati - 1970-04-03-Cincin-Field-House Grateful Dead 4/3/70 Field House, University of Cincinnati Cincinnati OH gd70-04-03.sbd.cotsman.sbefail.flac16 Download: FLAC/MP3 https://themidnightcafe.org/2018/03/05/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… SBD from bootleg “Cincinnati 1970″ This is a flac encoded & tagged version of shnid: 4283 –Setlist– –Electric– 101-d1t01 – //Casey Jones 102-d1t02 – China Cat Sunflower -> 103-d1t03 – I Know You Rider 104-d1t04 – Hard to Handle 105-d1t05 – Dancing in the Streets 106-d1t06 – Me & My Uncle –Acoustic– 107-d1t07 – Friend of the Devil 108-d1t08 – Deep Elem Blues 109-d1t09 – Candyman 110-d1t10 – Wake Up Little Susie -> 111-d1t11 – Black Peter 112-d2t01 – Uncle John’s Band 113-d2t02 – Katie Mae –Electric– 114-d2t03 – //Good Lovin’ 115-d2t04 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 116-d2t05 – Drums -> 117-d2t06 – The Other One -> 118-d2t07 – Cryptical Envelopment -> 119-d2t08 – Cosmic Charlie 120-d2t09 – Not Fade Away -> 121-d2t10 – Turn on Your Lovelight% notes: -missing encore (We Bid You Goodnight). -Casey Jones fades in at…at trouble junction.” -Good Lovin’ fades in about 30 seconds before the drum solo, during the chorus. -There is a minor splice in Lovelight during Pigpen’s rap. -This is the first known Candyman. From the original uploader: As this show is from a bootleg, no source info was given, though the sound indicates that at least one, and probably two analog generations occurred before being transferred to digital. The pitch was corrected using Sound Forge as the original recording was flat. Retracking was done with CDWave. There are occasional, very faint pops in the recording as well as occasional oversaturation. Lastly, and significantly, an intermittent buzz occurs throughout the show from a bad connection somewhere. It is most evident during the acoustic set. 4/3/70 Poster http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1970s/19700403a.html

April 3, 1968http://gratefuldeadoftheday.com/04-03-1968 Winterland Arena San Francisco, California This show does not seem to exist in recorded format. There is even some questions about whether the Dead even played on this night. What is known is that this was a benefit fo the employees of KMPX, a San Francisco free form radio station, who had gone out on strike. There were a number of concerts in support of the strikers, including a street show as soon as news broke that the workers went out on strike that some also put the Dead at. On April 3rd, it seems very likely that the Dead played with The Youngbloods, Moby, Electric Flag, and a few other San Francisco-based bands in support of the KMPX employees. Reports have the setlist as Cryptical> Other One> Cryptical> New Potato Caboose> Born Cross-Eyed, Alligator>Drums> Alligator> Caution. 4/3/68 Poster http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19680403c.html

We've got Pig . . . We've got "Departed this earthly realm" . . . And we've got a grassroots populist movement for summer 73 . . . So maybe its a run from 73 shortly after Pig departed this earthly realm?

https://archive.org/details/gd1985-04-03.sbd.walker-scotton.miller.1062… https://archive.org/details/gd86-04-03.sbd.samaritano.18509.sbeok.shnf Here's night 2 at the Centrum '87. https://archive.org/details/gd1987-04-03.140292.sbd.miller.flac2496 This was my second show and only Easter Sunday show. Jerry was sick so the show was OK. If you can get past the vocals Black Peter was good. Walking around the back of the civic center before the show I was almost hit by the gold van that was dropping off Jerry for sound check. https://archive.org/details/gd1988-04-03.sbd.miller.91161.sbeok.flac16 Grateful Dead Download Series Volume 9 - 4/3/89 Not as much energy as the night before but a very good show. Set 1 Greatest Story Ever Told, Bertha, Walkin' Blues, Jack A Roe, El Paso, Built To Last, Victim Or The Crime, Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues, Don't Ease Me In Set 2 Blow Away, Estimated Prophet-> Crazy Fingers-> Uncle John's Band-> Drums-> Jam-> Gimme Some Lovin'-> I Need A Miracle-> Stella Blue-> Sugar Magnolia, E: Johnny B. Goode, E: Black Muddy River The last Spring 90 4/3/1990.

... for all my brother and sisters!!! http://youtu.be/x1YuCc9qJDk

Hey Dantian.. Saw your post, gave you a shout-out at the end of my reply yesterday... I'm still alive and kicking. Shoot me a PM the next time you're around. Good to see you..

To badly invert and paraphrase Hank Williams... Bolo writes: "HF: The presence of bacon in the Muppet box would indicate that the "donor" of said bacon had, shall we say, moved beyond this earthly realm." That's either the biggest head fake since March Madness or Bolo is saying "not Summer '73," but "think Pigpen." I'm suspicious of Bolo's obviousness. BUT, if instead of Summer '73 we get a Pigpen-centric box, then that's even better. What would such a box look like? If truly Pig-centric, they'd have to put together one entire CD of Pig's home tapes and any studio outtakes they may have. Then a few complete shows that really feature Pig. And there's the returned tapes angle. If Bolo means grease = Pigpen, then I'd have to place my bets on a series of 1971 shows, some from returned tapes. Perhaps this is the box that should have been released for the 50th to honor the GD's first frontman? But released in the back half of the year to avoid too much redundancy with DaP 26? And what is the commercial potential for a Pig-centric box? Unless it's just a holy @#$%!^&* slice of primal GD to rouse the faithful. (It's all about ME again...) Ah, Bolo, when you toss a pebble into the pond, many concentric circles result. You obviously enjoy your "work." If my musings hold any truth, then Bolo's role is to get speculation redirected to the actual planned box. Perhaps an announcement is closer than we think. Mr. Hype-ster Numero Uno, that's me. Never would've thunk it.

I'm terrible at these but here goes. I think the Seven movie reference was just there because we were all clamoring for what the next box was going to be hence a good ribbing from Bolo. I think the bacon reference was code for the Beacon Theatre. The 6 is for June, the 2 is for two shows June 14, 15... The Johann I have no idea. At the end of the day i will buy whatever it is and then start wondering what the next box is going to be!!! Please no more snow in the Northeast.. be good bob t

Muppet box is a reference for Manhattan. Who knows what year they chose. Would love to see the Manhattan Center shows! I'm A Hog For Ya Baby!

I wonder if the 6 2 reference has to do with the band configuration. 6 band members, 2 drummers? That would make the years of possibility somewhere between late 67-early 71. I don't think it would be the Brent or post Brent years...only because of the Pig references. Hope to find out today...man I am tired of the same info on dead.net every day!

Dave's Picks 6 tee shirt (navy blue) and Dave's Picks 10 tee shirt creme color with Tony Millionaire Alligator artwork ? Size Large or XL , anyone score these a few years ago from here ? other question is what cool merch / items have you purchased from this site or from GD almanac in years past ? Anybody get any cool patches or pins ? Years ago when the Closing of Winterland 1978 CD / DVD was released, the almanac sold a jean jacket with big embroidered patch on the back, the blue rose. I hope they put another cool jacket up for sale soon, last one I saw here was from 2015 varsity style jacket. http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19691024.html

Checked out the link, I watched most of New Riders, but what really caught my ear was Beth Hart. Though I have a chunk of her, I guess I've never listened. I guess she survived and overcame heroin(?), pictures of her over the years show quite a change over time. But what a voice.

Muppets Take Manhattan. Got it.Bacon....... Beacon. Got it. so "6 2" would be 2 shows from 76 (ie 6/14 & 15/76 at The Beacon Theatre, NYC). Had rough transfers of the boards from these dates back in my cassette collecting days. Both shows are WORTHY! Of course, Pigpen shows float my boat too... and 5/26, 6/10/73 are monsters....

hendrixfreak, I think you hit the nail on the head, that it's Pig-centric, not summer '73, and that this statement you made is the format: "they'd have to put together one entire CD of Pig's home tapes and any studio outtakes they may have. Then a few complete shows that really feature Pig". Seems to be what Bolo is saying consistently. Bolo - how's it feel to be spoken about in the 3rd person so much :D ? I also think that a Pigpen box set is a creative way to keep a fresh veneer on the archival releases. I know I tend to go into auto-pilot when guessing at these things, and presume the "theme" of the box set will be a run of shows from a specific period. But they switched things up with 30 Trips Around the Sun (what a treat that was). Maybe they've switched it up again and are focusing on a person. And why not shed some focus on Pigpen? He was a huge part of the band in the early years, and a fan favorite. Looking back at the Dave's Picks releases, he was only featured on, let's see.... 1 out of 4 shows each year from 2013 - 2017, and no shows in the DaP flagship year 2012. That's let's see... 20%. This is interesting, now that I'm really looking closely at the recent Pigpen releases. Outside of the Dave's Picks series, here are the releases (skipping over "doubles" that were released on vinyl only, as well as single show releases from box sets): 2012 Winterland: May 30th 1971 (LP only / incomplet show). Hardly counts as a release :D Anyone have an extra copy? Spring 90 (6 shows) 2013 Family Dog at the Great Highway, San Francisco, CA 4/18/70 (acoustic only). May 1977 (5 shows) Sunshine Daydream (1 show) 2014 Spring Too (8 shows) Live at Hampton (incomplete show) Houston, Texas 11-18-1972 (incomplete show) 2015 30 Trips Around The Sun (6/30 shows feature Pigpen) 2016 July 1978: The Complete Recordings (5 shows) 2017 July 29 1966, P.N.E. Garden Aud., Vancouver Canada (LP only) May 1977: Get Shown the Light (4 shows) RFK 1989 (2 shows) This tallies up as approx 57 shows without Pigpen to 9 with Pigpen (1 which was an incomplete vinyl release, 1 which was acoustic only, and 1 which was vinyl only). That works out to about 13%. Tallied altogether (Dave's Picks + the rest), there were approx 91 shows released from 2012 forward (excluding Fare Thee Well), 9 of which featured Pigpen - that's a meager 15%. I'd say it's time for a Pigpen box set. But what to call it?

I think there were some shows that the Dead played where bacon was actually fried on stage. A quick look seems to suggest the shows played in Manhattan in Nov 1970. I’d have to look later when I’m back at a computer to be sure. If correct that seems to tie into a lot of the clues.

https://bklyner.com/remembering-the-deads-trip-to-bensonhurst-bensonhur… may be onto something.

Could it be a Fillmore East '71 box. I have a vault pic showing last reel of 4/27 all reels of 4/28 and the 1a reel of 4/29 and partial pic of 4/29 1b reel. Looks like the multi-track reels are intact and this would tie into a late release date like Europe 72 Complete recordings. Taking time to get everything exactly perfect. Announcement would be in June and box would ship in September. 04/25/71- Fillmore East - New York City, NY 04/26/71- Fillmore East - New York City, NY 04/27/71- Fillmore East - New York City, NY 04/28/71- Fillmore East - New York City, NY 04/29/71- Fillmore East - New York City, NY

There's a Daves 6 shirt on Ebay right now. Its XXL though. And no, I'm not the one selling it :)

that it still could be a Port Chester '71 box, based on the clues and some prior guesses. Bacon - Pigpen, plus Capitol Theater was once a catering hall per wikipedia. Muppet clue - Jim Henson died in NYC. Miss Piggy could also be the bacon in the box. Peptol Bismol - using Seth's interpretation that another 70-78 might nauseate some (but not me...). Also, Miss Piggy was a pink one too, and she may have nauseated Kermit more than a few times, which made him turn so green. Johann 6 2 - Six being the six shows in Feb (month 2), as someone previously mentioned. Johann, well here's a stretch, but there are 4 upcoming performances of Johann Strauss music at another Capitol Theatre (in Salt Lake City) in May 2018. Four performances also equals 6 minus 2. https://concertfix.com/tours/johann-strauss+capitol-theatre-ut+salt-lak… So, a Port Chester '71 box announced in May? I don't buy the overlap problem of the next DaP being '71 ruling out a box set from that year too. After so-so sales on the 78 and 89 box sets, I think they may want another quick homerun like the high that the GSTL box sellout gave them, to keep the momentum going. Port Chester would do that, I presume.

Bolo has become the poster child on why they should not give internet access to inmates in California. My brain is sufficiently numb from thinking about this.. I'm more likely to hit it big with scratch off lottery tickets than solving some of these clues. :D

which I think is slim, is a box with Pigpen demos, studio outtakes and the early, incomplete shows that feature his frontman status, 1966-1971 (because '72 has been released), a couple of complete shows that his music dominates; e.g., one of the least-known shows that came back with the returned tapes. Seems like ABCD Enterprises has to figure into it somehow. Or, Frosted has the likeliest scenario, and it might include returned reels. Yes, JimInMD, all this speculation "Hurts Me Too."

I find myself nodding yes to all these possibilities.. I always hold out hope for a little surprise/twist of fate. Perhaps there is a mystery reel or two in our future.. Although I suspect one of us nailed it this time. Happy trails..

If they follow their usual schedule DaP should go on preorder the week after next and Anthem 50th in the middle of May. If they announce the box preorder too is there anyone on this board who wants to preorder one of my kidneys?

I'll take two. Will they make me trip?

Only if you eat them with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

That hurts. You KNOW I was framed. Besides, all my efforts are always for God and country. And my Deadhead brethren, of course.

Are any or all of us close to guessing the next box? haha #Fakenews

This is the year of the moment for me, and so I would like to see a box released from 1970. I seem to remember reading on here that there weren't as many good quality tapes in the vault from 1970, which would lessen the likelihood of a release, I suppose. But I would welcome a release even if the standard of sound was slightly reduced form what we have come to be used to.

See, we know that you know that we know that you know what the next box is... Wait, doesn't the list of priorities go: Deadhead brethren FIRST, then "God" (advice: cut back to half a tab) and country (think Merle Haggard). The judge decreed it, judge he wrote it, judge he wrote it down: Deliver a Pigpen-centric box and I send you a "get-out-of-jail-free" card, though restrictions apply...

it is the 20th anniversary of the Island Tour.

....hey. I knew that!!