Dave’s Picks Volume 33: Evans Field House, N. Illinois University, Dekalb, IL 10/29/77

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January 22, 2020 - 9:18am

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clayv

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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January 27, 2020 - 10:10am

#621

Colin Gould

Joined:
September 15, 2009

Acid Mothers Temple

My CD collection needs to be indexed again so I’m not sure how many AMT releases I have. I certainly have more than 50. I’d guess that the only band I have more by is the GD.

Dave Rock
There is at least one more CD that has Daevid Allen on ‘Live in Nagoya’ by Acid Mothers Gong. I like their amusing album title e.g. ‘Do androids dream of electric tapirs’ or ‘Starless and bible black sabbath’.
Kawabata Makoto is a great guitarist.
January 27, 2020 - 10:03am

#622

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

Not sold out yet

We may be at 77 saturation level. As Jim said, some people get bored of their supermodel girlfriend and want something that is imperfectly brilliant.

Combine that with the fact that Rhino can no longer be trusted to actually deliver what you paid for and some people may be resistant to buy a 77 show they may never have heard of.

I expect a faster sell out for DaP 34, unless PNW Box has created a 74 saturation also.

Dave may need to pick an 80’s show for the third release, something from an unsaturated year.
January 27, 2020 - 9:59am

#623

Oroborous

Joined:
June 19, 2007

Vinyl, sell out, and the rapist

SELL OUT; I think if they initially sold all but a few hundred of the run that’d be perfect. Not too much extra inventory, but enough that folks could grab one down the road if need be. Also helps keep the resale price down, which also may help some head later on....

THE RAPIST; it’s a shame about the rest of the folks, and I don’t want to talk I’ll of the dead, but I live in the town where he was being prosecuted, and well “ I know a little something you won’t ever know” .....let’s just say that just because he didn’t get convicted doesn’t mean he wasn’t guilty....no means no, even if the say yes at first, and that’s all I’m going to say about that. The only reason I’m bringing it up is because it’s going to be hard watching all the praise and media hype about someone like that....
So what happens then when OJ dies?

VINYL: so since my server is off to its maker for some tweaks and updates, It got me to get the table set up finally.
Thus I’ve been listening to some old records, many that I don’t have on disc. Big time bummed though as I was looking for Wake of the Flood and American Beauty but can’t find them. I used to have everything “official” up to Go to Heaven except Long Strange trip. Couldn’t find 2112 or the first live Rush album either. Those I might of traded or sold decades ago, but I don’t think so cause I still have Farewell to Kings.....so I spun up that, a bunch of Dead, Jimmy Cliff Give Thanks, Soulive Rubber Soul, some macca, Kansas, Bromberg and some Hendrix I haven’t heard in decades; Midnight Lightning, soundtrack from the movie Jimi Hendrix, and Band of Gypsies. Forgot how good some of that was!
Also listened to Ready or Not some more, and Bless it’s pointed little head. New stuff that I’m getting used to.
So stoked for new release but bummed my initial listen won’t be via the mighty Ref 3 😟
The good news is when I get the server back I’m getting a emm labs Dac2X V2 which is a huge upgrade! Woo-hoo...

EDIT; PM me if any one needs a sweet DAC? I need to sell my Wired 4 Sound DAC 2. No I do not have the Dsd upgrades but it’s in mint condition....
January 27, 2020 - 9:55am

#624

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Hey Green Mtn Dead, welcome

I'm assuming that you're in Vermont, or were at some point. I did a cool backpack through the Greens in 1973, between Watkins Glen (7-27-73 and 7-28-73) and Roosevelt Stadium (7-31-73 and 8-1-73) and the fall shows at Nassau Coliseum (oh yeah, plus returning to school)... Moved on to the White Mtns and the Adirondacks, all in 3 weeks, hitch-hiking all the way. I turned 16 late that summer, with a few four-way blotters in my pocket...

Enough nostalgia! To your question, yes it seems that, at this point, Dave is unloading some so-so shows in the 3rd pick of the year. I do not like that approach. Rather than suggesting another 10 years of Dave's Picks (I think he has stated 20 freakin' years = his retirement) -- that's 40+ shows -- why not state that we're looking at a 10-year timeframe for the series, even the vault output?

Say two shows per year get released as RSD releases and/or studio album/companion live discs. Add six shows for an annual box. That's 48-50 shows over the next decade. I can name 20-30 classic or peak run shows that should come out and there's an equal number of under-hyped goodies that others could suggest. Sure, I'd like to hear many of the mere ~75 shows I attended, 1972-1992, but there's no need to dribble out the hum-drum, slack shows to leaven the gems.

I understand they have another 1,000 shows in the vault. So what? Why not keep the vault output focused on the very cream of the crop? And call it good within the third decade of the 21st century?

If the remaining band members and/or their heirs want to extend the legacy, then just reissue the very cornerstone recordings for future fans. (We can all cream over which ones qualify!)

Also, personally, I don't care for filler. Either put out a show or a compendium of partial shows, but don't stick a few random tracks onto a "short" Dave's Picks disc. The fact that these discs can hold 80 minutes is meaningless to me. Break up a show to fit properly on (3) discs and move on! Obviously, I do not suspect my view is anything like universally held.

That is all for now. I really look forward to the incoming Dekalb show, though I'm sated on '77, Dekalb was an early cassette blow-out we all got ~1980. It's a stone rocker.

To summarize, if Dave throws me 3 of 4 hot DPs and one so-so per year, I'm still an avid subscriber.
January 27, 2020 - 9:20am

#625

stoltzfus

Joined:
January 13, 2010

not selling out

looks like the upper limit has been reached

also shipping issues make some hesitant

well, at least there won't be any complaining about being shut out.

and don't worry...the GD organization is still solvent.

watching a show with my better half, "Grace and Frankie". On a recent episode, there was a plot line of a silent auction. One of the items up for bid was Jerry Garcia's sneakers.

The music over the end credits was Eyes of the World from WotF album.
January 27, 2020 - 9:18am

#626

stoltzfus

Joined:
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Acid Mothers Temple

I have two of their discs

goooooood stuff
January 27, 2020 - 9:15am

#627

Green Mtn Dead

Joined:
June 26, 2018

Lack of Sell Out....

Mostly just a reader on this board (so thanks to all the other contributors for providing me good reading on my daily commute)," but a topic for the group to discuss.... Does that lack of sellout of 33 mean that Dave will need to re-examine the 3rd release of the year? Think we'll all agree that the 3rd release over the past couple of years haven't been "just exactly perfect" - thinking Vol 31 Uptown in Chicago (12/3/79) and Vol 27 Boise (9/2/83).

Many have voiced their opinions that the 3rd release of the annual subscriptions have been more of a "filler" release and not "checking the box" for the vast majority of listeners. Without the incentive of the annual bonus disc, I could see a situation where folks could switch to an a-la-carte purchasing approach if they know they will be able to purchase releases once the show is a known item.

I can see Dave and powers that be, thinking long and hard about this and either raising the quality of the 3rd release or maybe even lowering the number back to 20,000.

Trust me - I love the 22,000 number as it allows everybody the ability to purchase and avoids the excessive resell prices on eBay (or sometimes even on this site - yes, you know who you are and we're not "blind" to the fact of what you are doing).

So anyway, just wanted to put out a topic and get folks' view on this.

Thanks
January 27, 2020 - 3:53am

#628

daverock

Joined:
September 1, 2014

Acid Mothers Temple

I saw them too once, supporting Gong about 20 years ago. Ferocious. The only cds I got by them are called "Absolutely Freak Out (Zap Your Mind!!), and "Acid Motherhood", made with the late great Daevid Allen.
January 26, 2020 - 7:38pm

#629

Mr. Ones

Joined:
July 25, 2017

World has gone crazy...

...The only thing that makes sense anymore is music!! Anybody check out the Elton Live From Moscow 2-cd set that came out Friday, I found very enjoyable for the most part. My only real complaint is that a couple of the songs go on WAY too long. But overall. a nice step back to 40 years ago.
January 26, 2020 - 6:23pm

#630

stoltzfus

Joined:
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6 9 77

SHAZAM!!!

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Just like the singular Cornell, just like the one later called Sunshine Daydream, just like hallowed Hampton, DeKalb stands legend on its own as one of the most sensational performances the Grateful Dead ever did do. Early tape-trading circles earmarked the show as upper-echelon and when you have a listen, we're sure you'll be inclined to agree. The original reel-to-reel recordings have been shined and polished to perfection, showcasing mighty fine fret work, sparkling keys, and unparalleled harmonies. In fact, we can hardly pick favorites - from start to finish, there's just too much good stuff!

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 33: EVANS FIELD HOUSE, N. ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY, DEKALB, IL 10/29/77 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Cardboard Cowboy....

....amazing.

Vguy

All that early early early stuff is great

I cant come down
Mindbender

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Anyone who, like me, has been to Bangladesh will be aware that the overriding "perfume" of Bangladesh is the smell of shit. A noseclip of the sort favoured by synchronized swimmers is a possible solution. The cheesy smile is not obligatory.

Why would an asian spammer trying to sell perfume consider dead.net to be a potentially lucrative market?

Ha

Ever been to New Orleans on a hot day in August?

Selling Perfume on Deadnet

Could be the smell of Patchouli attracting the perfume peddlers. They think we are an easy target. Interesting enough, patchouli is species of plant which is derived from the “deadnettle” plant family. One can’t make this shit up!

And vguy...seeing that I already have some enamel pins. I think I will opt for the bolt condomns that I can wear with shorts. Oro is right...i look cool just thinking about it!

winter blues

I got them old cosmic blues again. Darkstar, you are right on so many things, except some don't have a choice, and they are the ones who need the assistance the most.
I had a many paragraph post typed up for a response to your post, but I deleted it, as we all know, "it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world". This was said in a film that was released in 1942.
Shipping mailers, hey, anything to reduce cost, right? I don't expect there will be an increase in the production numbers next year for this series. I do expect a price increase soon tho.
I stand by my statement, may be the best show of 77, and it has a space too, short, but very sweet. I have not researched it but this could be one of the first jams actually labeled "space". I love to get lost in space. Space is the place. I had something on my mind, but I spaced. Some say some of my posts are just wasted space. I love it when Jerry goes out into space, more space please.

Merch

I can always use some new pint glasses and coffee cups.. especially insulated stainless steel and Tervis tumblers with a nice skull and roses on them or something.

My go to coffee mug is an insulated stainless steel Morning Brew mug.. but it is dented, old and the writing is beginning to chip off to become unrecognizable.

Maybe I will wrap the beat up mug in a the always stylish bolt-condom sock and give it a facelift.

02/02/2020

Lots of twos. I bet this doesn't happen often. If you took the average, wouldn't it be 11/11/1111?

Spent the day yesterday with my supermodel ex girlfriend. I'm ok with being friends with benefits. This show is as good as I remembered.. but I still prefer the Swing over this and Cornell. I am also looking forward for #34.

I do like someone's previous comment, might have been IceCreamConeKid?? I forget.. something like Dekalb is a nice transition from 77 to 78 where they took the polished feel of Spring 77 and stretched the sound out as far as they could without completely jumping off the tracks whereas in 78 sometimes the train left the rails.

I can buy that. Was he playing Wolf or the Travis Bean for this show?

Edit: Or would the average be 01/01/1010?

*RE/ Daves Picks #33

....boy oh boy , Phill and Billy & mickey Are Primo Love it a sweet 77 sound board back in Vault!!!! Yes! 🙏❤️😎💀🌹💀🌹

New Orleans perfume

Yes, Jim, I’ve been to NOLA on a hot, humid June day. There was a thunderstorm as my plane was approaching the airport. By the time I got to Bourbon Street about 2 hours later the sun was out and baking the place. The water was evaporating off the streets making it real humid. Water was draining out of trash dumpsters into the street, then getting heated by the sun and evaporating, filling the streets with Parfum de Landfill.

No, Jim, I did not write the description of 77>78.
But I don’t seeing anything wrong with playing on the edge.

Nice palindrome Jim.
0202 2020

DaP 33 has Space as a separate track, but Phil and Drums (about 3 mins) is included as St. Stephen. I may need to separate that when I put the show on my computer.

16151

Number 16151 is in the house!
Arrived Saturday 1 February 2020. I had forgotten that I ordered the Dave's Picks 2020 subscription package in November and ordered DaP33 ala carte, that copy should arrive Monday 02/03/20.
Definitely an audio upgrade for me from my old cassette trade from early 1990.

Sunday afternoon tunes

4-5-69 Miller.18701

Currently on Dark Star, like what I’m hearing so far. Good sound.
Recording info: SBD>Rm (7 inch master reels @ 7.5ips 1/2trk)>DAT.
Candidate for release?

I’ve been through 10-29-77 twice, so switching it up.

Merch

Yeah, what he said!

Dave's 33 Cover Art

Okay, I know I said I wasn't doing scans of Dave's 33, but when #18988 got here AHEAD of schedule yesterday, I couldn't resist. Here's a link to all the Dave's covers I've done – scroll down to my corrected scan of Dave Kloc's artwork:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl…

(And check out Kloc's website at https://www.davekloc.com/).

Just getting started, but from what I’ve heard so far, Dave's 33 really is going to be a face-melter. Hope I come back to reality in time for the kickoff! My bet's on a cool sixer of Deep Ellum IPA. . . Onward.

P.U., space, and the ensemble

Bangladesh, sure, NOLA, definetly, how bout Dead tour Summer of 88, say at Alpine......that’s some Pepi Lepew shit!

SPACE, is most definetly the place!

4/5/69: Bring it!

The Ensemble: lol, sounds like a Seinfeld episode. A few accessories if I may. “To obtain the full dapper hipster appearance, one needs short, tight, Levi cutoffs with obnoxious boxers sticking out the bottom about six inches, with white knee socks, a huge pare of old school leather Italian hiking boots (lace color optional), GD tee shirt, a very dapper paisley vest, topped of with a stylish hat (no ball caps!) a real hat is needed! (Feather optional)
Throw a couple of stealie condoms in your vest pocket and your ready to hit the town!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7wRHBLwpASw

Wow, what sound!

#14701 in the house and no skips or imperfections. Safely burned into iTunes. What an easygoing show with a great vibe, and the sound is delicious.

Getting prepped for our annual Super Bowl party. Wife out getting groceries and I have the absinthe station all set up.

Despite the Dead's connections to San Francisco, I'm going for the Chiefs myself. I consider Patrick Mahomes the best player on that field today, but he's going to have to step up big and toss at least 4 td's to get past the Niners.

My oldest son is wearing his San Fran jersey white side out to spite me. Ah, youth...

Dave's Picks ?? - 1969

4-5 and 4-6 can fit on three disc's. Just a reminder.

Palindrome....

....yes. today is 02.02.2020, but lest not forget. It's 33 days into the year. 333 days to go. 🤔 3's.

The Palindrome

Didn't the Dead play there once?

Listened to Dekalb a few times now time to cleanse palate

With 2/15/73!!! I know it is not a returned Betty but it is always like an old friend you haven't seen in a while. Once i start listening to it. especially Dark Star>Eyes, I'm always like why did i wait so long!!!

SuperBowl....

....equals super food. Fajitas, guac, margaritas are prepping. Mrs Vguy didn't want the Dead playing though. I asked her what do you feel like listening to? She said Journey. Admittedly, it has been a while since I've listened to them. Happy wife, happy life.

Early '73 (and Early '71)

I could see 2/18/71 Capitol Theatre and 2/9/73 Maples Pavilion getting released soon. All those new songs.. and the slinky, bouncing, loping Eyes of the world. Might not be the best ever but might be just about the perfect time.

Anyway, random thought.. back to your regularly scheduled programming and absinthe consuming rituals (Louche??)

I like the idea of a 1969 diversion. Who keeps starting all these naughty rumors?

Vguy, 3’s

And DaP 33

4-5-69 worked out so well

I’m now listening to
4-4-69 FM.87542

What’s that?
An April 1969 Box - Avalon and Ark together?
That’s a great idea Dave.
Sign me up.

@VGUY72

You're a good man and don't stop believing...

Looking forward to a SF win....

....i need some new socks and/or enamel pins. The wife is rooting for KC just to make it interesting (she could give two shits tbh).
Journeys Escape record is very good. Always loved their covers. Scarabs for daysss.

Super Sunday!!!

The Mrs. is down in Tucson visiting relatives...I will be leaving the salt mine shortly and ignore (for the most part) the game...got some pork chops to grill and then smother in a killer hatch green chili sauce I made last night for it...ahhh the life...and listen to some '71 stuff mainly the Taft in Cincinnatt I believe it is...

Green Hatch Chilies....

....so, so good. So, so versatile. Yummy. Nappyrags is all over it. Good call. Mrs Vguy has had one of my signature margaritas. Getting loose. Now she wants to listen to Van Halen. I've created a monster! Women and Children First it is....
Some good music released between 79-81. My childhood music cherry was popped during those years.

Vguy

"Happy wife" is an oxymoron

Professor Fuxworth sez...

The "Great Divide" in GD history is between 9 3 77 and 9 28 77

9 28 is when Drums became a halfway through 2nd set feature.

Too long to explain. But i know what i am saying

Bertha into commercial....

....fuck. yes.

Re: Berha Intro

From Skullfuck I believe, 4/5/71??. Noticed it too.. Quite cool.

edit: Bertha was 4/27/71, my mistake.

Socks

Start shopping for socks.

Sounds like Wolf

I listened to the October 29th 1977 show a few times on soundboard starting a couple of years ago after a particular regular poster here recommended it to me. Eyes of the World I recalled being one of the best from the post Hiatus era.

Listening to it now for the first time on the official release platform and really enjoying the sound. Jerry's coming through loud and clear, so much so I'm thinking it's the Wolf. I'm not sure at what point in Fall '77 he put down the Travis Bean - certainly by December as indicated in the Dick's Picks 10 liner notes, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what we're listening to here.

While I prefer Keith on the grand piano or Fender Rhodes, he's mixed pretty nicely on this one. He tends to come through a little bit hot on some of these Fall releases, but this is perfect (and much better than the synth-organ he was using in the April / early May timeframe - I'm thinking Polymoog - man that one drove me nuts - very prominent at Cornell). Actually, Keith did just get kind of loud on New Minglewood Blues, but he has it in Jazzy funk mode - not bad. Pretty sure it was a Yamaha. Also pretty sure he had no choice in the matter, just going by different articles I've read.

Yeah, so far so good....

CaseyJanes....

.....time to check your pm.

Congrats

Congrats KCJ.

Oh well...

...At least the Burns Twice Pork Chops kicked butt...and as far as #15,919 goes...I've never been a fan of post hiatus St Stephens...there's something off in the way it gets slowed down, a bit plodding...maybe it's Mickey I don't know but uh uh...occasionally they do the same with Bertha & NFA ... the Estimated - Eyes on this though kills it...BRING ON THE NEXT!!!

Brokedown Palace....

.....lovers come and go. The icing on the cake. Today was a good day. Despite the scores. Stay safe y'all.
10.20.68 is pumping. I was five months old. Mirror shatters...its all good.

Super Bowl Champions!!!

Wow...been waiting a long time for this!!! Feels just right.....be good y’all and may your team win the next one!!!

KCJ

Anniversary of the "day the music died"

I believe the Dead covered 3 songs, Not Fad Away, Oh Boy, and La Bamba... 17 million people on average call out sick today also.... Have a good week everyone. bob t

I saw someone thinks Kansas City Chiefs are based in Kansas

lol

whilst channel surfing last evening...

the details about the TV shows had the original broadcast dates

I saw three in a row:

2/13/70
2/24/71
2/28/69

interesting...

Space vs Jam

The Uptown show contained filler that was labeled Franklins Tower -> Jam
Spectrum had Jam into Dark Star

This show has Eyes -> Space?

Why Space and not Jam? What's the criteria here?

Space v Jam

Bobby is the reason for this. They finally got their space together for the second set jam.

Cover art fixed:

https://flic.kr/p/2ioDwm3

any word?

anyone have any word on the next vinyl release of fillmore (3-1-69)?

KC Chiefs of the Great State of Kansas

Yeah Stoltzfus...we were just chuckling about that at breakfast this morning. Really pissed off some folks from Missouri I heard....Sad, Sad

🤣🤣🤣

for the "meet up at the…

for the "meet up at the movies" this year i don't think anyone would complain if it was in black and white as long as the show rocked!? plus is there anyway that you all can get the theaters to guarantee a certain volume? (george lucas does it) both years i've went we had to complain about it being down too low. The first year they turned it up and man that theater was rockin' we had people dancing everywhere, it was flippin' awesome! Last year they had it at med-low volume but wouldn't make any adjustment. dissapointing... i mean we're goin to see a concert. I don't just want to hear it I WANT TO FEEL IT!!!! My system at home get's louder than what it sounded like last year. So what's the point? I'm gonna try one more time but if they do that again this year it will be the last time i go. Please you guys, try and get them to understand that WE ARE GOING TO SEE A CONCERT! thanks!

My DaP 33 coming today. Can't wait for the weekend! Will be my first time hearing this show and gonna make it special occasion if you know what i mean. 😛 []🤏🏻

This is suppose to be "upper eshelon" so i want to see if dave really knows what he's talking about or he's just blowin more smoke. You guys think this one's worth a trip down memory lane? I mean every release that comes out he hypes to death, but i have a good feeling about this one. It's '77 so it can't be that bad, plus it's got space. You don't see space to much in '77 so... but, i mean, they're saying this is in the same league as cornell??! But to me that's what cornell was missing WAS space. Because If i was trying to turn someone on to the dead i mean cornell was an awesome show but no space! space to me is part of the whole grateful dead experience. I can remember back in the 90's when i got on the bus my buddy had a tape and when it went in to space we were just like whoooaaa! ;) kinda separated them from other bands. all good though.

Spouses/Leaving Early

Sorry, I was unable to comment over the weekend(received Dave's 33 Saturday!!). Only through disc 1 so far, but excellent in every way, and I agree that the Let It Grow is one of my favorite LIG's already(also love Dire Wolf & Ramble On Rose).
Regarding leaving a show early, in 1981, I took my then wife to see XTC at the Bayou in D.C. Their bus broke down on the NJ Turnpike, so the show started LATE. My (now EX) wife had to go to work early the next morning, so we left about 1/2 way through XTC's set.
Starting the next day, she was NEVER asked to accompany me to another concert. Problem solved.
Thank God I got to see them a 3rd time in MD just prior to the end of their touring days in 1982.
Looking forward to 2nd set tonight!!

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