Dave's Picks Vol. 39: The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA 4/26/83

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We're feelin' Philly 4/26/83 and its '80s highs. See what we're on about when you pick up DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83, the final show of a three-week tour, played at the venue that the Dead played more than Madison Square Garden (there's your daily dose of Dead trivia). This one fires on all cylinders, with extremely well-played, high-energy tight sets featuring newbies "West L.A. Fadeway," "My Brother Esau," rarities like Brent's tune "Maybe You Know," precise medleys "Help>Slip>Franklin's," an inspired new pairing "Throwing Stones>Not Fade Away," and the Dave's Picks debut of "Shakedown Street." And before you come down, we've got a prime slice of bonus material from the previous Spectrum show 4/25/83 and an extra dollop of '83 from the War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester, NY 4/15/83 (featuring the Bobby rarity "Little Star").

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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October 10, 2021 - 12:20pm

#41

Oroborous

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60s

It is puzzling that so few sixties have come out?
Yes their very repetitive, but look at this box, obviously that doesn’t stop em...
And yes many are short,
And there probably not as many good recordings,
but I’ll bet there’s still enough quality there to do something?
Been way too long fo sho!
October 10, 2021 - 10:28am

#42

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Thanks gents

Icecreamed I appreciate your logic. I'd agree that ABCDs will continue to come out, interspersed with what's in the Vault. Clearly, for this St Louis box, that one ABCD reel enabled the entire box. Frankly, the list of returned Bettys is rather stunning. I'm still panting for every release and that's 50+ years after hearing AB and Skull & Roses for the first time. (Actually, I borrowed Live-Dead from a friend when it came out -- I was only 12 and couldn't make sense out of the opening to Dark Star, so I took it off the stereo and returned the LP unheard!!) And I'll leap at any '80s shows that are hot, after all, I did attend my share. Agreed, cassettes of hot shows beat multi-tracks of lacklustre performances.

Here's a curveball: whatever happened to the tape stash that Mtn Grl turned over? Those were Jer's tapes and Dave did release that killer April '70 acoustic show with the Pigpen set. But I haven't heard anymore about them, nor ever seen a list. (That probably doesn't exist outside Dave's files.) Then there are the tapes that the roadie's ex turned in, which helped create the Fox Theater/FW 69-70 release (DaP 6) and an undisclosed source of returned tapes that enabled Thelma 12-69 (DaP 9). There's a bunch we simply don't know about. And primal stuff, too. I'd think they still have a fair amount of '69 suitable for release. (DaP 40???)

Though thinking about the Vault holdings can drive me a little crazy, I'm kinda glad that Dave doesn't release a list. It keeps the surprise factor going and my earlier posts about the Vault -- how many excellent shows remain unreleased -- run to the optimistic side because Dave has many aces up his sleeve and, as I surmised earlier, he's looking for commercial patterns that could lead to a box and one-offs that work for the DaP series. I must say, while I really don't want his job, it's gotta be mighty fun. A couple tokes and a tour of the Vault would probably leave me quite worn out.

As to preservation, it's not clear to me what the process or pace is. I did get the impression from Dave's description of his DaP process that he selects a show, and THEN it gets digitized and a technical once-over to see if will stand up to release quality. I'd love to hear Dave talk about his process, which shouldn't reveal anything he doesn't want to reveal.

Meanwhile, it's been established that the OSF still has reels of GD. I asked them to keep an eye out for 9-19-72, which is in the Vault, but missing a reel. Fingers crossed, that was my first show. I did sponsor a reel myself of 1973 NRPS. OSF told me that they had opened a box marked NRPS, only to find it empty -- disaster! Yet it seems they've recovered quite a few reels somehow (mislabeled, misplaced?) since then because, obviously, they did that early NRPS box and, presumably, more NRPS releases to come in the future. Johnny Cash at the Avalon is coming out soon! They must have feelers out to innumerable artists for permission to release and they've been careful to go outside the San Francisco bands to broaden our palate. I'm, grateful.

Man, I never tire of this stuff.

And Icecreamed, the new box is pretty sweet. The setlists are mindblowing. You're gonna love it, I'm sure. I'm gonna stretch it out into the early winter just so I savor every skull fuck.

Edit: P.S. Yeah, the demographic angle (Giants box sell-out) is a strong one. I suspect that each era has its fans. I didn't see any '60s shows, but I'm on 'em like white on rice. I caught one '91 and two '92 shows after leaving the GD concert scene in '87, and I'd love to have those properly restored. And I caught shows in every year, 1980-1987, which of course I'd love to hear again. Think of it this way: if you were 25 in 1985, you're ~61 now. Still rockin'. I kinda doubt that, except for Billy the Kid, that any of us did catch '60s shows, but we're hot for 'em. Crazy good stuff.
October 10, 2021 - 10:17am

#43

Oroborous

Joined:
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Cone kid DL

maybe that’s it Conekid, save up the working capital from profits now so they can afford to fix up and digitize, then add a DL series, but one that not only works, but excels. Ya know, something the Dead used to be known for: cutting edge, leading technology...
October 10, 2021 - 10:13am

#44

Oroborous

Joined:
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As far as as digitization

now that Plangent can be used on cassettes, wouldn’t they want to wait on digitization?
I agree that they should get digital back up ASAP for everything, starting with the best sounding good shows as ICCK suggests, but it seems like they wait to cover the production costs until they have the years submoney in hand?

Remember this was one of the big riffs that happened between band members: some wanted to “sell out” to some corporation who would have the financial resources to digitize the whole collection, so you could get any show ala carte, but Phil was like “I’m not turning on the TV and hear Truckin’ during a Chevy commercial” not an exact quote, but he wasn’t about just selling out, he wanted to maintain control and do it their way, well maintaining the respect the music deserved. Or remember the whole Terrapin Station debacle, where Mickey said there’d be a kiosk, so you could put your order in at arrival, and pick up your shows after you toured the museum etc,
So there has been talk at least of trying to make the vault more accessible. But now that Rhino has bought at least some level of control, I don’t think their in a hurry to do any of that, which sucks.

Now if there was any forethought, Rhino et el would of been reinvesting some of the profits from all these years of windfalls to build up enough scratch so if/when the Beatty well etc runs dry, they have the cash to fix up the better cassettes, properly!, and then start pushing them out en masse? Not sure if it’s true, but a reasonable theory, that they could be marketing to the “older” crowd currently, assuming that more of the 80/90s market is younger and thus will be around longer. That seems limiting to me, but what do I know?
Personally, I’m in the All The Years combined camp: let’s get all the multitracks from any year out first, or say one box of multi’s a year at premium rate, so they can milk it along, combined with say DaP series of Beatty’s and predominantly older stuff, (perhaps with some “normal” boxes mixed in), and also offer a no frills 80/90s outlet for everyone else to enjoy, you could call it Pedro’s Picks as I’m available ; )
Sure they might not sell as much of any particular individual format/series, but cumulatively they could be selling more total! And no offense, but their doing this to make money!
October 10, 2021 - 9:44am

#45

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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Giants Box is a grate one

Multi-track and a BluRay.
We need more video!

80/90’s multi-tracks should all be released.
And the 2-track DAT Masters if they sound good and the performance doesn’t have any major meltdowns.

As for the 80’s cassettes, if they sound good and the band is on, then release them. Especially since Plangent can now do cassettes. I would support and 80’s cassette download series, but not until Rhino figures out how to run a download service.
October 10, 2021 - 9:26am

#46

Oroborous

Joined:
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ABCD/80s etc

They needed to get returns on their investments.
I believe I read there is a NDA?

Theory: using say just four years of DaP only with 20k subs at $100 per sub = $2Mil per year (not including extra ala carte $, boxes, aprons, hatchets etc)
So that’s 8 million in four years just for DaPs...
So my theory is that after production costs and corporate profit etc, it’s taken a few years to pay some or all of that investment off, thereby loosening things up a bit. I’m sure you’ll see ABCD reels being used more then less until their either mostly gone, or the shows aren’t up to par. Hey, a well recorded lousy show is still a lousy show...
As for 80s shows, I’ve said it all along: have 2 series!
I think you snobs would be surprised how well a series dedicated to 80s and 90s “cover band” shows would sell.
I think there’s a huge army of silent heads just waiting...GIANTS box anyone? Sold out way quicker then 78, 76, PNW or the current one!
October 10, 2021 - 9:05am

#47

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
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HF, speculation

My speculation regarding the rate of ABCD releases is based on the speculation I read on these boards. I have no additional knowledge.

Regarding the STL Box, in the seaside chat Dave explains how this Box came to be. I don’t recall the details but I think it was something like most of the shows had been selected for release at some time, and he wanted to do another regional Box, and this one came together at this time, although another Box could have also come.

I think that digitization of all the analog recordings (presumably starting with the best sound quality) is a constant process because getting digital copies stored in multiple locations is an insurance policy to keep the releases and revenue coming well into the future.
You don’t want to pull a Universal Music and lose everything in a fire.
So, I think that the library of digitized shows is constantly increasing and that Dave has an ever growing selection to choose from, and then he picks a show that appeals to him at the time. In seaside chats in the past he has said how he has more than one show in mind for an upcoming release, and then makes a decision for whatever reason.

Regarding 80-85 cassettes, we basically know what sounds good because you can get copies from the torrents. There are a lot of people who do want shows from those years released, but also a lot of people who will not buy them. The Rhino business plan may be to generate as much revenue as possible from the pre-Brent years while the people who only like those years are still alive and spending money.

This has all been speculated on in the past on these boards, and I’m just respeculating.

The USPS app says that my Box is out for delivery…..
October 10, 2021 - 8:11am

#48

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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The Vault conversation, part XXIV...

So, Icecreamed, I'm curious why you say that Dave has to deal "first" with returned Bettys? I have openly speculated here that the initial plethora of ABCD-related releases in years just passed might reflect some arrangement with the gents who are ABCD to get the material out more or less immediately. Do you have any argument or evidence that that's true? Being sincere here, not snarky.

I say this because I note that only one reel in the St Louis box is from ABCD. I don't know how many reels per show were used, but is it safe to say more than 20 reels for 20 CDs' worth of music? So the St Louis box benefited from one returned reel but is by far mostly composed of reels they had in the Vault. Neither DaP 39 or 38 were from the ABCD stash.

So I'm genuinely wondering: if there is/was a deal with ABCD to get out those returned Bettys, did the initial slew of ABCD shows (spring '77, Red Rocks, etc.) in the past 2-3 (3-4?) years satisfy that agreement and now Dave is free to intersperse Vault shows with returned Bettys? That scenario seems kinda likely, in that I can imagine an ABCD deal as described above but not one that would shackle Dave for any length of time from freely choosing shows after an initial burst of ABCD releases.

I guess we can only speculate, as a confidentiality agreement probably exists.

As for speculation that we're being softened up to accept '80s shows on cassette -- a world of difference from a Betty, I think many would agree -- that is ... disturbing, to a degree. I'd probably keep subscribing even then, because as in this year, when Dave did '87 and '83 shows, he also gave us 9-73 and 4-78. The '73 shows are a must-hear, must-have for me. So I'd suck up a few '80s cassette shows to get what to me is the really good stuff. My storage situation reflects my personal approach: I've got prime shelf space in my office for '66 thru '75 GD. '76 thru '90s shows are in a tall oak bookshelf in the basement (along with 3/4s of my Jimi, all my Dylan, and other top artists, so no disrespect, just space issues).

Blah, blah, blah! My guess is that the ABCD agreement has passed its initial phase and we're now in potpourri territory. Yes, "potpourri territory"... mmm, need more coffee...
October 9, 2021 - 3:59pm

#49

icecrmcnkd

Joined:
October 20, 2015

The Vault

GD renewed the 10-year contract with Rhino a couple of years ago and will probably renew for a third term when that time comes.
So, Greek, Frost, Ventura, and others will probably get sifted through for release.
But, Dave has the returned reels to deal with first.
I think that the 80’s DaP’s we have received so far were selected so that the ‘better’ 80’s shows can be used later when there are few pre-Brent shows remaining.
October 9, 2021 - 3:08pm

#50

hendrixfreak

Joined:
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Don't be too grumpy...

I think the Vault has quite a few iconic shows tucked away, as well as tons of shows we attended and haven't heard squat from.

I'm not a natural optimist, but remember that Dave thinks the DaP series will go for 20 years. That's 100 shows, counting bonus disc. Plus he's putting out another 7-8 shows per year in a box. Another decade of boxes is another 80 shows.

All I'm saying is that, to accomplish that, Dave has to have a long-term plan, not just plucking the occasional show out of the Vault for release. I have no actual knowledge of his m.o., but it would seem to me he's got to come up with box themes that'll fly tape-wise and business-wise. So he may very well have Frost, Greek, Shoreline, Red Rocks (that's my personal desire) shows staying intact, under the radar, to enable future boxes.

Notice I didn't say something like, "Have patience..." because I want that Rocks box NOW!!

Just sayin', there's hope.

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We're feelin' Philly 4/26/83 and its '80s highs. See what we're on about when you pick up DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83, the final show of a three-week tour, played at the venue that the Dead played more than Madison Square Garden (there's your daily dose of Dead trivia). This one fires on all cylinders, with extremely well-played, high-energy tight sets featuring newbies "West L.A. Fadeway," "My Brother Esau," rarities like Brent's tune "Maybe You Know," precise medleys "Help>Slip>Franklin's," an inspired new pairing "Throwing Stones>Not Fade Away," and the Dave's Picks debut of "Shakedown Street." And before you come down, we've got a prime slice of bonus material from the previous Spectrum show 4/25/83 and an extra dollop of '83 from the War Memorial Auditorium, Rochester, NY 4/15/83 (featuring the Bobby rarity "Little Star").

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 39: THE SPECTRUM, PHILADELPHIA, PA, 4/26/83 was recorded by Dan Healy and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Last 5

Dylan-Springtime in NY-Disc 2
Disc 1
Chicago-Complete Carnegie Hall-Disc 16
-Disc 15
-Disc 14
Making my way through 2 new boxes

Music is the Best!!

I Apologize

for providing MISinformation about the Berkeley Sep, '81 article I recently described. When I wrote Rex Jackson instead of Blair Jackson, I think I was displaying my age-related (and oatmeal brain) problem with people's names. As we know, Rex had passed by the time these shows happened. Again I apologize.

Dylan

Mr. Ones, how are you enjoying the new Dylan box? On the fence about buying it. Not my favorite Dylan period, of course, but a lot of that has to do with the over-production on the original albums.

Brownie

Just don’t let it happen again 😉

Phil and Phriends

Wow, really enjoyed couch surfing the 3 show mini tour the past 3 nights.
Had zero expectations about this lineup, but they were tight!
What a pleasant surprise, something that was needed!
I only wish I would of felt comfortable going...
Fun set lists and some cool treatments of some songs that you might not expect.
(Read, don’t just look at the set list)
They seemed to get better and looser each night...
The audio was really good and only had streaming issues on Friday.
Even the Mrs watched 2 shows and declared them “better than D&C and that Bob Weird guy” lol
Just another awesome way the music lives on!
ONWARD!

Kieth Fans

Kiethfan and all other Kieth Fans would probably enjoy the latest Good Ol' Grateful Podcast, featuring Kieth and his story.

9/19/70

Outstanding show. I have long advocated for its release. Darkness>China Cat jam in the middle of Not Fade.

Oro - Phil and his lineups are awesome. I very much prefer them over D&C. Zzzzzzzz.

9/19/70

Count me in on that one too - an incredible show. That would be worth releasing even if the sound is a bit sub par and its incomplete. Never mind the show - great music must take precedence!

9/20/70. Fillmore East.

This show should be released for the acoustic set alone, but it also has a killer electric set. Like I mentioned yesterday, 9/19 & 20/70 need to be put out together as a single release, hopefully for Dave's Pick # 40. I consider these two shows, shows that must be released, they are that good. What other shows are must releases?

Lebowski/Dylan

I must admit I have a soft spot for Dylan's mid-80's period. Infidels is a top ten Dylan album for me. I highly recommend this. The number of covers that I was unaware of, the alternate takes of some faves of mine. And Empire Burlesque tracks shorn of their mid-80's awfulness. Big plus for me was 2 discs of Infidels stuff. A side note-I have all 16 editions of the bootleg series, and this is the first time I decided I had to have the 5-disc version. I'm very glad I indulged myself. Cannot recommend highly enough.

must-release shows, but I ain't holding my breath

6/10/73 (legal issues with ABB)
11/19/72 (not in the vault)

I bet #40 will be some obscure show from 89.

- Donnie "Brown Acid" Downer

PS: When do I get my Bachelor's Degree in traffic light identification?

Countdown...10!

Ten more days until River ships!

Most Shows?

Is there a record known for most shows attended? Most in a year? Most tours caught, etc. ?
I knew a guy we used to disc golf with from Grand Junction, CO nick-named "Doc" who was from CA and said he had seen over 250 shows but had lost track of the actual number. He was an excellent disc golfer who carried me in a doubles round the night before a tournament. We placed second using maybe a handful of my shots. Dude had ALL the shots! Rollers, thumbers, turnovers, you name it, he could throw it.
Just curious. We watched The Big Year last night and that had me looking at world records.
Cheers and thanks!

Edit: Google says Bill Walton has 854. That's Hard To Handle! I saw him standing with crutches backstage at two of my Red Rocks shows. His leg was in a cast.

Mr. Ones + Dylan

I love this new Bootleg Series as well. I think the best of BS editions are the ones that shed new light. Another Self Portrait and Trouble No More are fantastic.

Re: Proudfoot

11/19/72 could have been among the returned Bettys. An unknown number of tapes by Rex and Owsley were among those. As for 6/10/73, the Allmans now have Allman Brothers Records which recently put out reissues of the Owsley Stanley Foundation's Deluxe Fillmore East 1970 ABB package, Fillmore West '71, 10/17/71: The Last Note, 9/15/71 Austin, and 1/31/71 from that FWest '71 package and the single disc of the Owsley reissue of Fillmore East 1970 on vinyl, so they are motivated with both the end of the band, and then, the passing of Gregg and Butch to release things as they come up. And their archivist Kirk West is still doing it, so if they needed any clearances for those performances, I would imagine that would be quite easy. Easier than setting up the ABCD deal, I'd bet, and I also bet that most of the tapes from the Listen to the River Box will be ABCD returns.

The One Time They Did This

30 years ago this evening; Boston Garden
My first Bruce show!

2nd Set Opener, The ONE TIME They Did This:
Help on the Way >
Slipknot! >
FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN

I recall turning to my buddy being like, what song is this again???
I just couldn't place it despite obviously knowing it - absolutely was one of those moments that just totally caught me off guard leaving me literally....speechless.

Over and Out
Sixtus

The Dead Halloween collection

I wish they would release 10/31/69 from San Jose State, as a part of this Halloween collection, it's a killer show and I think it is a must release tape. Maybe it will be Dave's Pick #40.

11 9 79

Dancin' -> Franklin's

:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Wow
This show is hot!!!

On another note

Aaron Rodgers and two receivers just threaded the needle not once but twice

Impressive display

Fun fact about the game tonight....

....someone bet a 16 teamer. $25 to win over $750k. That person's winning ticket rested on the Lions to win straight up.
I could not watch that game with that much on the line. Poor soul.
Shoutout to the newest Dylan Bootleg release btw. Religious Bob is still Bob.
I'm going to the Raiders/Dolphins game next Sunday. Vaxxed and got a ticket for face from a buddy. You stupid Dolphins better show tf up.
Edit. The Halloween store is a joke, right? I mean, if you're gonna put out a Halloween dye, rainbow patterns are not the way to go. Way to go home.
The mug is passable though.

V

I hear that. I always wanted that black wolf t-shirt on the Garcia family site, but there is a rainbow ring around the wolf that, let me say, kinda looks tutti frutti. Not that there is anything wrong with that. -- J.S..

750k is yours...NOT

Sports and gambling: 2 things I avoid as much as possible.

Campaignshoutin

Holy crap, I totally agree. Another Self-Portrait is my second favorite Bootleg Series release. I regret not getting the deluxe of that, because I was coveting that Isle of Wight Live disc, but I just couldn't justify the cost for one disc of live stuff. One day, I'm sure I'll get access to that disc.
I'll be on vacation when my St. Louis box arrives. I will have to wait 10 AGONIZING days until I can listen.
UGGHHHH

Music is the Best!!

my personal take on Bob Dylan

a giant among giants. crazy respect to the man.

albums I listen to on occasion: Bringing It All and Hwy 61. And the one where he is walking down the street arm and arm with a honey, and the old school VW Bus is parked on the side. And Greatest Hits Vol 1 and 2.

Another few tunes...

Other than that, I have tried to get into his other stuff, and just can't connect.

The thing is...BD is crazy awesome.

RGM Sale: Country Joe and Friends

Real Gone having a vinyl sale. Got a 2-LP Country Joe & The Fish and Friends for $12.00 (list $29.95). From 1969 I think and features a 38 minute "Donovan's Reef Jam" with Jerry, Mickey, Jorma, and Steve Miller (on harp). Oh, and Jack Cassidy plays bass all night! Also found one from Tony Joe White, the "swamp fox", also a live album. Features Donald "Duck" Dunn on bass and has a version of my favorite song by Tony, Poke Salad Annie. Fun stuff! Not a huge selection in this vinyl part of the sale, and they will have an upcoming CD portion of the sale soon.
Cheers!

Mr. Ones + Mr. Dylan

Yeah, I've generally been happy with the expanded Bootleg Series editions. I didn't go for the "everything" sets -- Vol. 12, the Cutting Edge, with every note in the studio from that time, and the Live '66 box with every show, but nearly identical setlists. I WISH I had picked up Vol. 8, Tell Tale Signs, in 3 CD set -- but that 3rd CD cost a hundred bucks or so! But I just looked it up on Discogs, and it's listening there for $250+... :-(

Empire Burlesque was the first Dylan album I bought when it came out, so I'm having fun revisiting that stuff in slightly stripped back form on Springtime in New York.

Springtime in NY

Just hit my doorstep. I'm really looking forward to digging into this one. Should be great. Trouble No More gave me a new appreciation for early 80's Dylan and I'm expecting Springtime to do the same for mid-80s.

I think i'm missing a few of the Bootleg Series. I definitely have 1-3, Royal Albert Hall, Self Portrait (I agree - this 2 discer might be the best - just incredible), Rolling Thunder, Basement Tapes and the two aforementioned new/er 80s ones. I'm missing Blood on the Tracks, which i heard is great.

Dylan is just so prolific. He's similar to the Dead in that there's infinite variety, but Dylan had even more songs and switched them up so often and so well. Its just hard to express how amazing Dylan is.

For What It's Worth

I love pre-hiatus GD. I also love the Beam.

These two things simply do not reconcile. That is all.

Tarantula

The best Dylan collection I have bought recently has been the mono box of his 60s recordings. They sound so fresh-particularly the acoustic music - the discs from his first album up to the second side ( L.P. wise) of Bringing It All Back Home.
Apart from that, the only boxes I have are Trouble in Mind and the 1966 tour. Trouble In Mind appeals to me partly because of the superb band as well as the songs.
Unusually for me, I bought a download of Another Self Portrait, which included the Isle Of Wight show, but didnt break the bank.
Another set I like is the blu ray disc of the Desire tour - Rolling Thunder, I think its called.
But my all time favourite releases remain the mid 60s trio of Bringing It All Back Home, Highway 61 and Blonde on Blonde. With Another Side Of snapping at their heals.

Dylan

I too got the latest Bootleg. Went to whole hog of course, vinyl and cd's.

I like these collections, I have them all. I'm not a Dylan expert, generally can't tell you album names, but like a ton of tunes.

I have fallen in love with the song I and I off this set.

I love his cover of odd tunes, like Fever and Wish it Would Rain.

I had no idea of the personnel involved on these recordings.

You go Bob

I & I

Halloween store

concur, what's with that graveyard tye dye, not only rainbow colors but why does the pumpkin have blood dripping out of its carved mouth hole to spell out Grateful Dead? Wow, not quite right. Do like the mug too, trip or freak if it's limited, it will be gone soon.

Grumpy Grumpkins sez...

enough with the lame-o merch.

RELEASE MUSIC.

Halloween stuff

Along with the Halloween merchandise, it would have been nice if they would have put out a collection of Halloween Dead shows like 10/31/67, 10/31/69, and 10/31/70, that would have been really cool.

Merch = $$$

I too tire of the unending parade of merch -- Halloween merch just because Halloween is coming up? Really? No musical tie-in even attempted? Unless one of the Halloween shows cited by our brethren is coming in DP 40... And even then, who is buying all this hooey?

As long as I'm ranting, how about giving the whole skeleton and death motifs a rest? I really liked the PNW box art and it showed where GD art could go in a classy, thoughtful direction.

Okay, Captain Grumpy is going back to work, prepping the house for its first painting in 20 years. Just call me Deferred Maintenance, Inc. Or just plain lazy. Racing to get 'er done before the snow flies.

And by then, digging into the new box, giving each show all the time it needs.

P.S. If DP 40 is NOT a Halloween show, I'll be baaaack with more raaaaanting, and haunting.......

Fully Agree...

with uuussseeee guys!
Enough, release the hounds, er a, the music!
ALL THE MULITITRACKS from all the years combined, NOW!.....please?

A review of stuff reveals a bright side...

No bloomin' aprons.

Grumpy Grumpkins returning to his cave now.

Schwag

Are you supposed to wear the apron when you use the axe to crack open your new STL Box?

Apron clarification

When the gardening merch showed up, there was an apron for sale.

When was the last time a Deadhead needed an APRON?

"Grumpkins, back into your cave!"

Wow

The human mind

Eva Gabor circa 1968

Hot af

Wife and i watching green acres

Eva gabor wearing little white gloves and a little perky dress

WHERE IS THE ST LOUIS COLLECTION?!?!?

Axe and Apron

I always wear the Gardening Apron when I use the Workingman's Dead Hatchet. The apron rocks.. no matter how many fingers I chop off with that sharp as hell badass axe.. the clothes underneath the apron have yet to be stained with blood. We are talking not a single drop. I am the type of guy that often forgets to change out of work clothes before I start cutting shit up in the backyard.. that apron has saved me thousands in Italian Suits alone, which tend to show blood... I plan to give the Apron a 5 star review as soon as they get the glitches out of the PM's and the Swag Review page.

These guys are marketing geniuses.

Yo Jim

Did you truly get the WD hatchet?

Apron...

1972-11-26...

DARK STAR->
Me & Bobby McGee

...get some
thanks Dennis...

What would Jerry have thought?

I wonder what he would have thought about all the merchandise, and - well, the whole money making, Deadhead good vibes at all cost culture, that seems prevalent these days. He always seemed to me to be a man of integrity and honesty, routinely dissing The Dead's albums and never afraid to identify sub par performances. If a Deadhead does that now, they seem to be considered to be letting the side down in some way. Wouldnt it be great if Dave Lemieux would do one of his chats, and point out what he perceived some of the weaknesses of a release were, instead of mindlessly going on about how great everything is. It feels like we are being treated like children sometimes.

But back to merchandise -there are photographs of Jerry wearing tie dye tee shirts-but he didnt seem to be promoting them as brand. I think they produced a tee shirt with Pigpen on, round about 1967-but that always seemed to be ironic to me- a dig at the commercialisation and manufactured glamour of the music industry - Pigpen being the antithesis of all that. Now, through Deadnet, the band have been added on to it.

Hatchet Yes

Apron No.. The thing is a weapon.. it's surprisingly well made.

Concur

...I too have the hatchet. It is AWESOME.

Very well built, nice and heavy, sweet GD Workingman's markings.

Hacks very easily at firewood and makes a formidable anti-Michael Meyers weapon....perhaps.

I've not yet thrown it into a target, but my assumption is this could be a world-champion axe throwing axe if skillz are applied appropriately.

Be Well People!
Sixtus

Thanks for the chuckle, Jim

So a hand axe can be a very useful tool, especially when you master the 5-yard toss into a tree. (Man, that's gotta hurt...)

Fly in the ointment, though: why is a defunct rock band selling hand axes? T-shirts and hoodies I get. (But don't buy.) Not to cast asparagus on anyone who purchased whatever...

Ah, the days when the GD would drop Me & Bobby McGee or Me and My Uncle or some such right in the middle of a Dark Star or Other One -- I recall a moment (but not the show, though it was early on) when I turned to my compadre as they segued back into an interstellar jam and said "What the hell just happened?" As I was literally clueless about what had just happened, musically or otherwise. That's why I'm here!

Henceforth, to keep the (imaginary) censors at bay, I'll just use the code word "apron" when I want to bitch about something, anything.

As in, "That 1987 cassette release was totally 'apron,' man!" (KIDDING!!)

Cashing in

Rhino is cashing in while the gettin’ is good.

The Garcia Family is doing the exact same thing.

Actually pretty amazing how popular the band still is 26 years after the trip ended.

I don’t buy the schwag but I definitely buy the music.
Recall how many of us have talked to Deadheads who have no interest in the commercially released concert recordings, but yet they buy the schwag.
That’s why Rhino and the Garcia Family have to have both hands in the pot. Figuratively and realistically speaking, since the Garcia Family attached Jerry’s name to weed too.

I could sell Proudfoot T-shirts

who wants one?

hey!

anyone?

now, 1968 Eva Gabor wearing nothing but that lame-o apron....

and those little white gloves...I'm all for that.

Ja, gerne!

that image puts the corn on my cob

Gimme that SYF Pumpkin Pin!!!

I might as well throw my two pennies into the pot: I think it’s fair to say that when you get to the point where you’re marketing not just hats and socks and shirts and ties but also aprons, dog tees, watering cans, leather lighter sleeves, hatchets, and “biscuit bracelets,” whatever those are, I think it’s fair to say your marketing has gone a little overboard. And all Halloween stuff being pushed out there with zero connection to music? WTF?

On the one hand, I don’t have to buy any of this stuff if I don’t want to, and I’m not knocking anybody who does. I myself have purchased an SYF onesie. (Not for myself. Although, if they made them in my size ...) But at some point all this relentless marketing, this effort to squeeze every last possible penny from every last Head starts to feel kinda undude, and very undead.

You want my money? Keep releasing great shows and, here, you can have all of it. But the “SYF pumpkin pin.” Seriously, what even is that?

PS: It's taken me five tries (and counting) to post this, for some reason.

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