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Agree. Everyone knows the best period for the Dead was between 6/1/74 and 6/30/74. Now that we have this out of the way we need to get back to releasing just these good shows please.

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Happy Friday all. Have a good weekend.

Shame this wasn't advertised as being shown in England. I just assumed it was an American thing until Peri mentioned that it was being shown in London., but by then it was a bit late.

HBOB1995 and good ole Mr Pete.....
For you closed minded negative fucks...
“Don’t ya put on any airs when your down on Rue Morgue Ave,
They got some hungry ‘creatures there, that’ll surely make a mess outta you’”!

Personally, I think there’s plenty of white bread 77 released, but I don’t come on here and shit all over it just because it’s not MY favorite! I sit back, and relax and find the goodness and joy that can be found in ALL GD, and like individuals, find traits that I like.....believe me, if one wants to you can find idiosyncrasies in EVERY GD show....
It’s like riding pow in the trees, you learn to look for the spaces between the trees, not the trees or else DOooooo!
Same with the dead...

PS: just a side note. It always seems like the folks who like later eras or all eras are more respectful of releases tha5 are not necessarily there favorite, while the 70s nazis are the ones who say negative things if a release is not, yet again, one of their favorites......

Finally, here’s a informal breakdown of Releases.
It’s funny how the folks who have received the most releases in their sweet spot seem to be the most unhappy?
RELEASES

DP = Dicks
Dap = Dave’s (* multiple releases)
RT = Road Trips
DL = Download series

68: DP 22/ RT 2.2/ DL 6 = 3
69: DP 16 26/ Dap 6*, 10*/ RT 4.4/ DL 12 = 6*
70: DP 4, 8/ Dap 19*, 30*/ TR 3.3/ DL 2, DL Family Dog = 7**
71: DP 2, 35/ Dap 3*, 22*, 26*/ RT 1.3, 3.2/ DL 3 = 8**
72: DP 11, 23, 30, 36/ Dap 11, 14*, 24/ DL 10 = 8*
73: DP 1, 14, 19, 28/ Dap 5, 16, 21/ RT 4.3/ DL 8 = 9
74: DP 7, 12, 24, 31/ Dap 2, 9, 13, 17/ RT2.3 = 9
76: DP 20, 33/ Dap 4, 18*, 28/ RT 4.5/ DL 4 = 7*
77: DP 3, 10, 15, 29, 34/ Dap 1, 12, 25, 29/ RT 1.2/ DL 1 = 11
78: DP 18, 25/ Dap 7, 15, 23/ RT 1.4 = 6
79: DP 5/ Dap 31/ RT 1.1, 3.1/ DL 11/5&6/79 = 6
80: Dap 8/ RT 3.6/ DL 7 = 3
81: DP 13/ Dap 20 = 2
82: DP 32/ RT 4.4 = 2
83: DP 6/ Dap 27 = 2
84 = 0
85: DP 21 = 1
86 = 0
87 = 0
88: RT 4.2/ DL 5 = 2
89: DL 9 = 1
90: DP 9/ RT 2.1 = 2
91: DP 17/ DL 11 = 2
92: DP 27 = 1
93: RT 2.4 = 1

Here’s a Breakdown of Dave’s Picks
Year: Total Releases/ How Many Releases since../Release.#
69: 2 / 21 / #10
80: 1 / 23 / #8
74: 4 / 14 / #17
81: 1 / 11 / #20
73: 3 / 10 / #21
78: 3 / 8 / #23
72: 3 / 7 / #24
71: 3 / 5 / #26
83: 1 / 4 / #27
76: 3 / 3 / #28
77: 4 / 2 / #29
70: 2 / 1 / #30

Of course this does not include Box’s or other releases, and their influence on the release schedule, but it still is fun/interesting to compare......
I did this informally so please excuse any errors

Jer was in command last night in the 6-17-91 movie. It was great to see the little cues and glances that made the music happen, especially among a seven-man lineup. The show grew stronger with each song following the Eyes opener and when they had built a small fire, Jer really stepped up and elevated the proceedings. Just like old times.

Pretty decent turnout in a Denver theater, five of us went together, but everyone in the crowd was cackling to see each other and everyone was super nice. As one would expect, but I miss that camaraderie.

The segment with Dave was kinda lame. He just talked, no Dr. Rhino showing off the box. I'm sure it's full of good music. I think Jer was clean in '87, '89 and '91. Everyone in the band looked young, but Jer at 49 was pretty frayed looking. But alive and well! What a trip... The only drawback was the vicious beating Mickey gave his tom-toms; at times it overwhelmed the music and even Jer occasionally glanced back as if to ask for mercy. But Jer and Mickey locked quite well a few times, too.

I'm not buying the box, but it will be good music and a solid release to document that the band kept cooking in '91. And thanks to forensicdoc for crying out "Garbage!" Funniest thing I've read here in many moons.

Yes, I am quite happy, too. I don't think I'll buy the box-but its looks like a great release for those who like the band during this timespan. I will be happier still when Daves Picks 31 turns up, and I don't have to pay for it-but thats another story, and anyway, I'm on the wrong board for that.

I quite like that idea about releasing this 1991 show as a stand alone dvd/blu ray disc. Or even better, including the dvd in with the cd release. Other bands have done this-Deep Purple and The Stray Cats have are two that come to mind that have released live cds with dvds of the same show included for the price of a cd set. I think I could stretch to that!

I am hoping for a solid box from 1993 just so I can see miserable people light up the comments board. I laughed outloud at "Just frustrated with this release".

All kidding aside, I will be happy no matter what is released, regardless if I purchase it or not.

The overwhelming majority of releases are in the '68-'78 zone.

But there are 17 years worth of stuff AFTER that. More than half of the life of the band. Including some very good stuff late in '79 after Brent joined, the '80 acoustic sets, the '85 summer tour 20th anniversary stuff, the really good vibe post-coma in late '86-'87, the late era Brent peak in '89-'90, and the Hornsby/Vince stuff in '91.

Me, I like the whole shebang. But the fact is a lot of the sets are pretty freaking repetitive in '68, '69, '73, and '77. And they are much more diverse in the late 80s. I enjoy the variety.

I have no issue with an 87/89/91 box. Having said that, I would not have picked shows that give us 3 Throwing Stones/NFA closers out of 5 (and Sugar Mag the other 2). Nor would I have picked an 87 show where we lose the encore (and a double at that).

I was at those '89 shows and they were darned good. Though another summer '89 release that is not Alpine is starting to tick me off some....

For the record, here is how many of the releases have been in the '68-'78 zone:

1) Yearly big boxes: 8/12 (n/i RFK '89, which was in addition to Get Shown the Light; 8/13). Including Giants. 66.7%/61.5%.

2) Dicks: 28/36. 77.8%.
3) RT: 10/17. 58.8%
4) Downloads: 9/13. 69.2% (n/i RT Full shows)
5) Dave's: 27/31. 87.1%

The people carping about '68-'78 only are being ridiculous. That is what is has been, especially lately, with 27/31 Dave's and the first big box outside that zone since 2014. Yeesh.

Not sure where to begin.

Will just add a couple things: First, I think it’s obvious that Dave is a Head. A Grateful Head, to be sure, who likes the entire 30-year storied history of the band, as do I. This is a long-term project. I don’t think he slipped and missed 12/1 or 12/5, I think he genuinely thinks 12/3 smokes- as do I. Love that whole fall ‘79 run, it really does mark a critical turning point in dead history.

As for this box, I must say I was getting used to the idea of some sort of June ‘91 run, perhaps ending with Soldier Field. Still, I like this one. Someone mentioned this, sort of like 89/91 box(es) and the 87 show for bonus. 6/17 is a masterpiece and I sort of see the ‘89 shows as nice companion pieces to the RFK box. After all, Bruce sits in on those shows, his band having opened at both.

Wasn't the PNW box all summer?? Is it bad that I am already wondering not only what 32 will be.... but I also thought this morning what 33 would be so subscription number could jump to 22,000!!!! What's wrong with me!!! This is while i listen to the Scarlet>Fire from 12/3/79............. (Going with 5/26/73 Kezar by the way) Have a good weekend everyone.. bob t

I was at several shows in 1991. The most fun I had was a tie between Las Vegas and the Deer Creek > Buckeye Lake segment, and the best show I saw was RFK.

I was at the June 16th show at Giants and recall only that it was a totally unremarkable lot scene and venue. Not sure why this place gets featured in a box set release, other than a lot of $$$ lives in the region and might get excited to buy this.

Maybe now this is out we can get back to focusing on good music? The Dead were at their best August 1968 - June 1977 and I'm hoping we don't stray outside that range too often.